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a single country. breaking this afternoon, in a call with president trump today, business leaders said that testing needs to be dramatically increased across the country in order to boost public confidence before relaxing any restrictions and attempting to open up the economy, according to a source. dr. anthony fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, of course has warned that without increased capacity for testing so as to be able to isolate the virus, may 1st, which is the president has set as a possible deadline, is overly optimistic to reopen the country and could in fact cause a resurgence of the disease. the head of the cdc today cautioned the same thing, saying that more testing and contact tracing is necessary before any american goes back to work. it's a sentiment echoed by new york's governor andrew cuomo earlier today. >> the more testing, the more open the economy. we need the federal government to be part of this.
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testing capacity to me is like what ventilators were over the past month. >> let's start with that warning from business leaders to president trump today that testing needs to be ramped up significantly, it needs to be far more widespread before any discussions of bringing people back to work. cnn's kaitlan collins is live at the white house and brings us the story. kaitlan, this is a phone meeting, i guess, of the president's new business council. are there any indications that the business leaders were able to convince the president? >> reporter: that's the question we're going to have for him this afternoon at the press briefing, because this is the first of a series of calls he had today with these business executives that he's invited to give him advice on reopening the country and when exactly they're going to do that and what that's going to look like. the first message from these executives on this first call, which was banking executives, financial executives, those from retail, hospitality, restaurants, things of that nature, is that you're going to have to ramp up testing if we're
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going to open up our businesses and people will feel safe coming in. they told the president that was a priority for them, essentially saying they do not feel their at the level that have right now because a lot of these companies are basically telling the president, if these consumers don't feel comfortable coming in, then we're not going to be opening up until this testing has ramped up further. we're told there was a lot of praise for the president on this call and what his administration has done so far. but jake, this could be kind of a reality check for the president because for the last two weeks we've seen him insisting that testing in the u.s. is fine. he said he has not heard a lot of concerns about the testing so far anymore from state officials. but we know state officials have been talking about this as well. and it comes of course as the president and his economic advisers are pushing to have at least some kind of opening on may 1 when those deadlines expire. >> every single state official i've heard talk about this has said he or she needs much more ramped-up testing across the state and country.
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kaitlan collins, thanks so much. there is more tension between the president and the nation's governors including this question, how much is president trump going to push them to do what health officials are currently advising them to not do? as erica hill reports, governor cuomo said although new york appears to be on the downslope of the virus, they are not out of the woods yet. >> reporter: more masks, more time apart, more testing, and more realistic expectations. >> if we move too quick, we put 50,000 people in yankee stadium, and that's part of why you see a resurgence of the disease, that would be the worst of all worlds. we have one chance. >> reporter: as the president continues to push for a symbolic may 1st reopening, officials around the country are focused on their communities. following the lead of california governor gavin newsom, confirming this new normal is here to stay. in new orleans, the mayor suggesting major events like jazzfest won't be back until 2021. mississippi, the latest state to close schools for the remainder
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of the academic year as experts predict the virus will return. >> we're going to have another battle with it, up front and aggressively, next winter. this is why it's so important we take the time now to really improve our testing capacity, expand our public health capacity to do early case recognition, contact tracing, isolation. i call it block and tackle, block and tackle. >> reporter: los angeles now offering same or next-day testing to its 10 million residents. anyone with covid symptoms is eligible. the nation's first saliva testing site is now open in new jersey. major league baseball pitching in for antibody testing. players, their families, concession workers, some 10,000 volunteers in total, part of a nationwide study to better understand the infection and its spread. knowledge that is essential to any reopening. >> it is very hard to bring this to scale quickly. and we need the federal
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government to be part of this. >> reporter: new york today announcing mandatory face coverings in public when social distancing can't be maintained, as the state cautiously embraces a plateau. meantime, georgia prepares for a potential surge and midwestern states discuss a coordinated regional plan to reopen, similar to efforts in the northeast and on the west coast. >> this is not a light switch going on or off. this is going to be making a change, testing it, modeling it, seeing whether it works. then if it does, you can make another change. >> reporter: also key to any lasting change, a vaccine. >> for health care workers and people who might be in constant contact and risk of being exposed over and over. >> reporter: for the rest of america, that vaccine is likely at least a year away. with each new day, new victims
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put a face on this battle. gregory hodge, an emt, was a 24-year veteran of the fdny. he helped at the world trade center after 9/11. the department announcing his death due to covid-19. gregory hodge was 59 years old. jake, we're also learning more about efforts at different cities. san francisco today saying that they are launching a partnership for contact testing. and in los angeles, the mayor, eric garcetti, last night in his press conference tabbed something he labeled care corps that would put people to work doing contact tracing and other jobs in local areas. he says he should have more details on that today and also said, jake, he believes that should be funded by the federal government. >> all right, erica hill in new york, thank you so much, and stay safe. joining me now as always, cnn's medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta.
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sanjay, it seems significant that business leaders in addition to top health officials are urging president trump to get up to speed with much more testing before allowing or pushing individuals to go back to work to reopen the economy. >> no question. i mean, testing has been the priority, will continue to be the priority as we try and, you know, reopen the economy. there's no question about it. and now we know there are people who can even shed this virus, jake, you know, spread the virus even before they develop symptoms. we know that people in the past were asymptomatic, never developed any symptoms, can spread it. and now we know the most vulnerable time for people is before they get sick. they need to be tested. they have no idea. the question that should be asked, it sounds like there's more and more tests out there. the labs are doing fewer tests and more people want to get tested. so what's going on here? people want the test, the testing is available. there's no backlog. what's going on there? something in between is broken.
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everyone in the country should be able to answer this question. right now, if you wanted to get tested, would you know exactly what to do, could you get the results back in a day? everyone in the country should be able to answer yes to that question before we can really reopen the country. >> let's dive into some of the points you just made. the first one, you referred to, you alluded to a study published today in the journal "nature and medicine" finding that people might be most infectious, most able to infect other people with the coronavirus, before they actually show any symptoms which adds to the growing body of evidence that seemingly healthy people are really spreading the virus to a large degree. what should people watching at home do if anything with this information? >> you know what they should do, jake, what you and i talked about six weeks ago now, i remember still, on your program, when we said people need to behave like they have the virus. that was the point then, it's
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still the point. you may not you have it. you may not have developed systems, you may not ever developed symptoms, but you may be infectious. think about everybody you may have come into contact with after you were sick, maybe a smaller number because maybe you stayed home, but do you remember who you came in contact with the three days before you developed symptoms? it makes this process really challenging. but that needs to be in place before we can start opening the country again. >> also it really shows the importance of testing if you're at your most infectious when you don't have any symptoms at all. eliminating social distancing restrictions or physical distancing restrictions would obviously rely to a large degree on there being some sort of vaccine. the lead nih scientist, dr. corbett, said today that nih hopes to have a vaccine ready for front line workers, meaning health care workers, emts, police and the like, by the fall
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with a larger public rollout next spring. is that timeline realistic? that seems kind of like good news. >> yeah, it does seem like good news. i was part of that interview with her, she seemed confident. but there's a lot of caveats, jake. the vaccine has to be proven safe and proven effective. i got the sense, jake, there's three phases, safety, effectiveness, and large trials with lots of people to make sure it holds up. my sense was that maybe after phase ii, as part of an emergency use, they may allow this to start being used in health care workers, maybe as part of a trial. she seemed pretty confident by next spring it should be available for the general public, which can be good news. vaccines take up to ten years to make, jake, so this is a pretty rapid schedule. >> very rapid. sanjay, you referred to this, the daily number of covid-19 tests performed by commercial labs has declined in the past
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week, even though demand is only increasing. do we have any idea why this is? >> i think there may still be too strict a criteria for who can get tested. i mean, the criteria have been all over the place. now it's saying people who only have symptoms should get tested. as we were just talking about, obviously a lot of people may not have any symptoms or may not yet have symptoms and they need to be tested. i think ultimately if we say testing is widely available for the individual out there, it's got to mean, as they watch this, they know exactly who to call or where to go or have someone come to their house even, or have an in-home test, something, they can get tested. everyone in the country should be able to answer the country, would you know how to get tested if you had to. the majority of people still don't know that, i get calls from health care workers where they still have a hard time getting tested. it's not widely distributed or applied across the country. >> the fda has now approved at
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least three different tests for antibodies which theoretically text whether or not somebody has been exposed to the virus and recovered from it. if you had had the virus, we talked about this yesterday, but just to reiterate, if you have had the virus, if you test positive for antibodies in your system, we don't necessarily know, because this virus, this coronavirus, is so new, so novel, we don't necessarily know that it means you're then free and clear and you can never get it again. but that's the hope, am i right? >> yeah, i think that's the hope. and if you talk to most infectious disease doctors they'll say presumably that's the case, you should have some immunity against this because that's how other viruses, even similar viruses have behaved. we don't know how strong that immunity will be, we don't know how long. you brought up dr. corbett earlier who is spearheading the vaccine, i said, how do we know the vaccine will work then, we don't know if the antibodies are protective. she said the vaccine will be
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totally different, because it will have been tested, it will give you the longer and stronger protection than the antibodies you get from becoming infected. she was drawing a distinction between the vaccine that hopefully will be available this time next year versus just getting infected. a lot of people say, why don't i just get infected because i'll be protected that way? the vaccine is a much better approach. >> also, you can get killed by getting the coronavirus. >> right, you can get very sick. >> right, even if you don't die from it, you can get very, very sick. there are accounts of people who survived it who are still really, really hurting. california governor gavin newsom laid out what the new normal could look like in california and across the country as social distancing is eased. temperature checks at restaurants, waiters wear gloves at restaurants, tables are set up six feet apart, limited large gatherings. is this what americans should
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prepare for when we talk about the new normal, that we're not really, in the next year or so, going to go back to what things were like? >> i think there's going to be an incremental set of changes in society. i don't think it's going to go back to normal right away by any means. it ultimately will, jake. there are some things that may be forever different but for the most part i think it will go back to normal. two reasons, one, the vaccine will make a big difference, and two is that we -- jake, you've covered news for a long time. we have incredibly short memories, as powerful, intdelibe as this experience is right now, people do forget and move on, jake. >> maybe. we're still taking our shoes off at airports. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much, we appreciate it. list
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"coronavirus facts and fears" hosted by anderson cooper and sanjay will be on tomorrow night. nancy pelosi will join me to talk about whether there will be another stimulus package. plus president trump loves to put his name on buildings even if he doesn't actually own the buildings. now his name could be possibly causing a delay for stimulus checks that millions of americans are waiting to be cut and sent to them. at papa john's, we want you to know that from our
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speaker of the house nancy pelosi sent a scathing letter to her democratic colleagues tearing apart president trump's response to the coronavirus crisis and calling him incompetent. speaker pelosi, thanks for joining us. we're glad you're well and safe.
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let me start with some of the breaking news here. the white house is working on suggesting that some parts of the country can begin relaxing guidelines so people can get back to work on may 1st. politico is reporting that in a phone call with democrats, you called that, quote, almost sinful. is that true? and why? >> i do believe that any return to opening up everything has to be based on health care, the good health of the american people. let me first say what a sad time for all of us just to hear the story of the nypd officer who responded to 9/11, losing his life to the coronavirus. it drives home every single story. the numbers are staggering but each individual story is heartbreaking to hear. so as we have discussions about how we open up our economy, this
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or that, we understand that this is an assault on the lives and the livelihoods of the american people, and that any decision to open up would be one that should be science-based and health-care-based. that's why it's so important to come back to those three words, testing, testing, testing. on march 4th we passed a bill that we prepared in february, brought to the floor and passed on march 4th, which was called "testing, testing, testing." here we are a month and a half later and we still don't have the appropriate, adequate testing for us to identify and take inventory of the challenge that we face to have the data to show how this is happening and where. we have to have a change in that. it's one thing to say it wasn't done right.
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but there's no excuse for us to not do it right as we go forward. it's so obvious. almost sinful. >> what's your take on president trump's name appearing on these stimulus checks? >> shameful. in other words, people are really desperate to get a check. let me put it in perspective. the three things that really anger the american people, there are others, but three of them are, one, that our first responders, our health care workers, our police and fire, ems, all the people in food and other essential workers, do not have the equipment that they need to keep themselves safe as they manage to attend to the needs of others, that they do not have the ventilators and other equipment to save lives that are in their charge. that's one. the second is, they want their checks. they want their unemployment check. they want their direct payment
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check. they want their ppp, the paycheck protection program, checks to come forward, and they're not seeing that. and the third thing they want is for us not to have any of the billions of dollars that have gone to big business, to help keep people employed, they don't want any of that to be used to enrich shareholders, buybacks, bonuses, dividends, ceo pay and the rest of that. so if you put those three things there, that's what we do in the c.a.r.e.s. act, is to make all of this something that would happen. but again, the entree, the door opening, the threshold to cross into opening up our economy, is through testing, testing, testing. >> speaker pelosi, let me ask you about the ppp, the paycheck protection plan. specifically, the small business administration is saying they're going to run out of money for
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these emergency loans to small businesses. democrats in the senate have been holding up an infusion of $250 billion into the program, they want more guarantees that the money will go to smaller businesses, not just bigger businesses. they also want more funding going to states and hospitals and the like. what do you make of this? if the sba is really going to run out of money today, it sounds pretty dire. what's your response? >> well, the response is that last tuesday, a week ago from yesterday, the secretary of the treasury called me, said i need a quarter trillion dollars in 48 hours for the ppp. we support the ppp, it was part of our putting together c.a.r.e.s. 1, we were successful. the house flipped it from a corporate triple down bill into a workers double up bill. we want it to work for everyone. what we were finding out, in
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just even the first hours of it, was that it was not working for the, shall we say, underbanked. so we said, just give us 10% of the money for those who may not have a sophisticated banking relationship, who are getting cut out of this, first come, first served, usually to the friends of the bank. we don't want to make the banks the villains, they're doing a job, it's covered, they have no exposure, it's covered by the small business administration, nothing to do with their balance sheet, because these loans are oft off the books. if people comply with what the criteria are, these loans can be forgiven. very good. however, they must reach everyone. and we had a plan, $60 billion. we still have it. it's still something we want to negotiate with them. $60 billion for what is called community development financial
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institutions. and those are those, like even credit unions, community banks, this or that, that know the neighborhood, know the businesses, know the people, know the culture, and can make these loans -- expedite these loans going to people, the local barbershop or some businesses that, again, don't have a banking relationship. why would they want to cut that whole layer of people, mostly women, minority-owned businesses, native american, rural america, veterans, all participating in those initiatives. and so we're saying we can't allow the billions, hundreds of billions of dollars being spent to fight the horror of the coronavirus and the impact on our economy, to further harden the disparity, the lack of access to credit for so many in the small business community. so let's have that discussion.
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state and local governments are desperate for resources. hospitals, desperate for resources. that's what we're saying we need. small businesses, state and local governments, and hospitals. that is what the senate put on the floor last week. we're very proud of them for doing that. and that is something that needs to be done. instead, the republicans -- we want to see how the money we're spending on state and local hospitals works before we do any more. but they're not putting the ppp to any test that havof that. frankly we're getting complaints that people aren't getting the response that they should get. let's be scientific, it's document that so it works as intended. we all want it to work, we all want to facilitate that. but we cannot do it by os isifyg the lack of access to credit for small businesses in our country. ♪ limu emu & doug
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we're back, we had a little technical issue at my end at the end of that interview, i didn't get a chance to properly bid adieu to the speaker of the house, so i want to bring her back now that my camera is functioning and ask her another question, speaker pelosi, thank you for staying with us.
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i have to say, i have followed your career enough to know that you're actually a pretty strong china hawk. you've been very critical of the chinese government, since i've been covering you now, for decades. do you not see the point that president trump has to make which is that the chinese government was not transparent, covered up a lot of what was going on in wuhan, and that the world health organization, at the very least, seemed to enable it? >> well, first, let me thank you for the opportunity to talk about small business, because there's nothing more entrepreneurial, nothing more optimistic that anyone can do than start a small business, other than get married. so we want to support the small businesses, all of them, and support the ppp and hope we can work together to do that. having said that, what the republicans are proposing will not get unanimous consent in the house of representatives.
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in terms of the world health organization, the position that the president is taking, you asked does it make sense. i say it's senseless. the world health organization is there to fight disease, pandemics, and all of this, throughout the world. and for us as the united states of america to undermine that just doesn't make sense. and that's why you'll see even some -- i know many republicans have supported the world health organization in the past. whatever the situation is as far as china is concerned, and that's a matter of science, to tell us what the story is there, but the fact is that the scientists, the technology, the convergence of all of these resources in a global way, because this is a global pandemic, as you know, it's something that for us to say we're not a part of, again, is
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senseless. >> speaker nancy pelosi, thank you so much, continue to stay healthy and safe, we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. it's a sad time. thank you so much. today the irs insists adding president trump's name to paper stimulus checks will not slow down delivery. "the washington post" reported the addition of the president's name on the checks, saying the decision could possibly delay the urb the issuance of the checks. let's bring in cnn business anchor julia chatterley. julia, the irs are reportedly rushing off the paper checks for printing tomorrow. it's unprecedented to have the president's name on a check like this and it's not easy just to add it. >> no, it's not. it requires computer coding changes. that system then has to be rechecked. but to your point, the treasury and now the irs confirming that these checks will be going out from next week and that is on schedule. i guess we leave it to others, jake, to impress the point on how essential it was to have the president's name on these checks when people are so desperate for
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money. >> retail sales fell 8.7% in march. that's the worst drop on record, according to the census bureau. that doesn't mean all factions of the retail industry are down, however. >> no, you're right. we're buying more online than we've ever done. amazon hiring thousands of workers just to indicacater to demand. what we're buying is essentials. we're hoarding groceries, we're buying medicine. that's what these numbers show. what we're not buying is the things we don't need because we're sitting at home, things like clothes, a new car, for example. but net/net, we're spending a lot less. the key for these numbers is, as bad as march was, this month is going to be worse. we've seen millions more people filing for unemployment benefits, and it will be a whole month, basically, spent shutting doors and staying at home. this last month is bad. april will be worse. >> while many small businesses have applied to get loans from
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the small business administration through the paycheck protection plan which we were just talk aboing about speaker pelosi, some industries are suing because they're not eligible, specifically lobbyists and strip clubs are not eligible. what's the story there? >> two strip clubs in particular are now suing the government, or the small business administration. they're saying, look, they're struggling, they need a grant from the paycheck protection scheme to pay their workers. those workers just happen to work at a sex-related venue or a strip club. but it's not just them, remember, it's lobbyists too saying they should be eligible for these loans and they aren't. what it's going to come down to is a legal decision on whose workers are allowed to get access to these things. but of course legal decisions take time, jake, and these are businesses that are struggling like anybody else. >> interesting, i'm sure that the congress thought that they didn't want any stories about
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lobbyists or strip club owners getting this money, but if you don't like those industries, try to outlaw them, i mean, they're part of the american system. julia chatterley, thanks so much. our next guest is refusing to listen to colleagues calling to reopen his state. ohio governor mike dewine is with us, next. usaa has been standing with them for nearly a hundred years. and we'll be here to serve you for a hundred more. ♪ andhey you, yeah you.serve you for a hu♪dred more. i opened a sofi money account and it was the first time that i realized that i could be earning interest back on my money. this is amazing. i just discovered sofi, and i'm an investor with a diversified portfolio. who am i? they make you feel like it's an honor for them to help you out. thanks sofi for helping us get our money right.
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breaking news, the city of los angeles may have to wait until 2021 before large gatherings such as concerts or sporting events had bable able
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legally resume according to emails obtained by "the los angeles times." mayor eric garcetti said these events may not be approved for a year. "the times" said the mayor was referencing best practices for safely reopening our economy. joining me new to discuss this and much more is the governor of ohio, mike dewine. governor dewine, what do you think about the next time you can go to a browns game or a reds game? do you foresee concerts, sporting events canceled in ohio until 2021? >> i don't really know. you know, if you start looking at what you're going to do sequentially, probably the last thing you open back up is a big event where you've got a lot of people, whether ate cit's a con or a football game or a baseball game. those are all, you know, near
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and dear to my heart, and i know for many of ohioans and americans, but -- [ inaudible ]. >> seems like the shot for governor dewine has just gone out. we'll bring him back. oh, he's back, okay. you were saying, governor? governor dewine, you were saying those are near and dear to your heart and then you froze up. go ahead, i'm sorry. >> well, i just think those are probably the last things that you can open up. i think any big gathering is something that's going to be the last thing. you're going to start to try to get some businesses back, you can practice the distancing and do those things before you're able to open up to the big concerts. and one of the things i talked about today to the people of ohio is that until we get a vaccine, things are not going to be really normal. and, you know, particularly people who are at high risk,
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people who because of their age or because of some medical condition, you know, are going to be exceedingly careful until we get that vaccine. i'm sure they're going to be weighing, you know, the odds, if i go to a football game or i go to a baseball game, is that really worth it? that's, again, someone who's a big fan, but it's a different world until we get a vaccine. >> let's turn to the situation specifically in ohio where you've suffered more than 7,500 coronavirus cases and more than 320 deaths from the virus. i think it's 324 at this hour. you've said your team is working on a plan to reopen the state. what would be the first step in trying to do that? and do you have any sort of timeline in mind? >> well, we've reached out to businesses, both those that we've already deemed essential and those that were deemed nonessential, and started working with them about how they
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can provide a safe workplace for their employees. and we've had some experience. we've had companies that have done a very good job, that have stayed open during this epidemic. so that's, you know, a place we start. we would also look to our hospitals. we've stopped elective surgeries at our hospitals because we don't have personal protection equipment. once we're sure we have enough personal protection equipment, we will then be able to start rolling those things out with the hospitals so they can get back to taking care of people on things that are not just total emergencies. >> and do you have any idea when you might start to take some of these initial steps? would it be may 1st, which is a goal that president trump is talking a lot about? would it be strictly based on what your health commissioner and others tell you, whether that's in june or july? what are you thinking?
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>> well, we're thinking, we have to look at the numbers, what we've seen in ohio the last week, it looks like we've leveled off fairly flat now in regard to hospital admissions. and so that's a good thing. you know, we want to see if we get another week, see if this is the right trend, what we like to see, of course, is those numbers to start down. but we're already moving forward with plans. but no, we do not have a specific date. as we see facts unfold, we've got to get back, we've got to get people back working. but at the same time, we don't want to be in a situation where we do things that dramatically shove that curve up again and we're back at the problem again. we're going to live with this virus, i guess is my message to the people of ohio, we're going to live with this virus until we get a vaccine. so that's going to mean different things. it's going to mean people who are working are going to have a
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today the number of coronavirus cases around the world has passed 2 million. new zealand's prime minister and her cabinet are going to take a 20% pay cut for the next six months. india will have some industries going back to work despite a lockdown including e-commerce and transportation. in japan health experts warn if coronavirus is not contained, 400,000 people in that country could die. cnn's will ripley joins me live from tokyo. will, why to experts fear the death toll could be so high in japan? >> reporter: it's a staggering number, jake. this is the health ministry's worst case scenario. they have a long way to go in reduction of human to human contact. some social distancing measures are already in place.
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i think realistically they're not expecting 400,000 people to die. but they are expecting a huge number of people to die in this country if much more dramatic steps are not taken immediately to slow the spread of the virus. the problem is they've had a really hard time with the messaging to the public, jake, messaging that only really began after the announcement of the postponement of the 2020 winter olympics. the government was focus on a strategy of minimal testing, contact tracing, a strategy that was convenient for the government when they were trying to save the olympics but now they've found themselves with an artificially low number of cases and no real idea how much the virus is spreading. and japan needs to bolster its public health system so they have enough icu beds. >> will ripley, thank you very much. a new study from harvard university says coronavirus patients with previously high exposure to air pollution are more likely to die from the
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infection. that might be why one parish in louisiana is seeing the highest death toll in the united states, as cnn's ed lavandera reports. >> reporter: in mid-march, diane and edward attended church services led by their son, the pastor. he noticed his parents looked ill that morning. a few days later the couple ended up in the hospital as doctors confirmed they were both infected with coronavirus. >> this is the last time i saw them. >> reporter: last week the pastor was recording a sermon when he got the dreaded message. >> i was preaching and got the text, your father just passed. and i kept preaching. >> reporter: two hours later, he got another message. his mother had also died. >> if someone told me your parents are going to leave you, i would have not accepted it. it just was mind-blowing. and still today i'm still shocked. >> reporter: they lived their
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whole lives in st. john the baptist parish. it's home to a sprawling collection of chemical and industrial plants. the area has been at the center of battles over air pollution for decades. it's often called cancer alley. this tiny parish with a population of 45,000 people has the country's highest per capita coronavirus death rate according to a data analysis by "the new york times." 569 coronavirus cases have been reported in st. john's and 47 people have died. >> we are dying at unprecedented numbers, right here in st. john. >> reporter: st. john parrish resident robert taylor leads a protest of environmental activists. they believe long term exposure to toxic air in their neighborhoods has made them even more vulnerable to dying from covid-19. >> it's terrible. what is it going to take for
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people to stand up to this? >> reporter: when you see the list of the counties with the highest death rates and all of a sudden you see st. john at the top of this list, is it shocking for you? >> i was shocked. the correlation is right. we have a lot of people here who are ill. we are under attack. >> if you're breathing in these chemicals every single day, it automatically affects your immune system. covid mostly attacks people with low immune systems. those are the ones who are dying. >> reporter: residents say parish officials were slow to take the virus seriously. tulane university especially de epidemiologist susan hassock says there is no detectable link.
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>> we don't know if it's contributing 2% or 10% of the increased risk or maybe higher. we just don't have the information we need at the present time to make that kind of a statement. >> reporter: antoine jasmine doesn't know how his parents' lifelong exposure to air pollution made them vulnerable to coronavirus. but the question will always linger. ed lavandera, cnn. here is some good news amid the sadness. captured on cellphone video. she was critically ill from covid-19, at 34 weeks pregnant. doctors felt they needed to put her into a medically induced coma and put her on a ventilator. they then performed an emergency cesarean section because her
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life and her child's life were in jeopardy. she spent 11 days on the ventilator. she was at northwell health in suffolk county, new york. the baby was transferred to a children's hospital while she recovered. doctors did not know if she would survive or not. but today she went home. the entire hospital lined the hallway to give her a very poignant sendoff, congratulating her on her amazing recovery. the hospital says she has named her little boy walter. congratulations to the mother and her baby and their family. we're so happy to report a story like this. and congratulations and thank you to all the health care providers at the hospital. the white house coronavirus task force briefing starts in just a few minutes. our coverage on cnn continues right now.