brother. a person dying being a nephew. person dying being an uncle. a father. a brother of the community. that really has value and until we see life as having value, as seeing life as so much more than a suspect before you, but a human being who demands to be respected and who certainly could and should be alive, we're going to be at this place and i think that now if ever is a time for moment and change. we are seeing that throughout cities in america. where people are saying enough. and those people are a diverse bunch of people who are leading and charging and adding to the cause. the cause of reform. whether that reform comes in the form of defunding police. whether that means the reevaluation from top to bottom, the redistribution of resources, whether that means having a conversation about police in

communities who look like those communities, who value those, who respect those communities and who can police those communities appropriately without death, we need to have more than a conversation, but the time for change is now. final now. my state in new york passed massive reforms a as it related to police reform signed by the governor. i spoke to our speaker last week who is very concerned about transparency as it relates to disciplinary records to police so the world can see. about choke holds and the value they're having. about prosecutions being done by our state attorney general, miss james, who has a long history for the cause of justice. we need to do more than speak. we need to reform and i am hopeful that other states throughout this country will do what new york has done in passing meaningful reforms a at the federal government will do so as well. >> stand by for a second if you could just for our viewers joining us. we were just watching a very emotional press conference by the family of rayshard brooks. the 27-year-old black man shot

twice in the back by an atlanta police officer friday night after an incident at a wendy's. they were trying to bring him into custody, he tarted to flee, they shot him in the back. his widow saying she will never get her husband back. other family members speaking as well. one of the repeating themes, the fear of being a black man and encountering a police officer in america today. to that point, chief ramsey, you do see the reform effort, reform calls around the country. george floyd in atlanta now because of rayshard brooks. the mayor appointed task force three days before this shooting and around the country. joey was touching on this earlier. will it get done or just talked about until something else happens then it gets dropped. >> one thing to say you need

reform and i agree. it's not going to happen overnight. it's going to require effort and funding. i hear people say defund the police. i hear a variety of things. how are we going to do this long-term? we need to really sit down and think this through. this is pretty complex. it's one thing tho say let's ge rid of the police or they don't need to do this or that or the other then what takes its place? you've got a stamp on social services. you've got to be able to fund it long-term. all these kinds of things. it needs to happen. we do need to reimagine public safety but u we need to think about what it is we want it to look like and how are we going to be able to support it. you can change policy. governors can sign billing. if it doesn't translate into behavior changes on the street at the operational level, theb

we're going to continue to have these moments over and over again and it's got to stop. it's got to stop but it's going to take a concerted effort in order to make sure it not only happens in the long-term but in the short-term. >> one of the things joey, you have at the moment, are the people. you see the stragss all around the country. the question is how do you take advantage of that opportunity and again, those words can sound crass. another man was just killed. shot twice in the back by police, but if you have this public attention, the big issue here. and then we're going to have conversations because more can be done and a lot of that will be quite difficult. >> it's an excellent question and doesn't have an easy answer

but let me give you mine. i think number one, it starts with cultural policing in general and how do you shake that culture and get to that so it's more humane. let me be clear. there are police out here every day working hard, who are giving their lives for the cause of people's safety in communities and i don't mean to castigate them as all. they are working hard every day and twice on sunday. i get it. but there's a larger problem here by those who are not affording the courtesies that are happening and that's the problem. and so my answer number one is accountability. if you're going to have policing in the culture change, there has to be one of police missteps suspensions, there has to be terminations. there has to be charges and those charges have to result in not only you know prosecutions, but convictions. what do we know and what have we seen historically? many my state of new york, eric garner, six years ago, i can't breathe. it took five years for the

department of justice to render the conclusion that they're not moving forward. the officer staying on the force for five years before being fired. that's not accountability. the fact is it has to happen soon and now. then you'll see the sea change. number two. transparency. we have to get to a place where we know is the public that we can trust and understand who the police are that are policing us and what are they doing. what do their disciplinary records look like? don't we have a right to know since they know everything about us upon a stop? let's get to that point. on the issue of transparency, we have to get to a place where you don't have one autopsy going back to george floyd that says no asphyxiation says it was. let's reason with the american people. be honest about them. and number three, we have to get to the critical issue of reform so as charles ramsey said, you can have legislation from everywhere. but if you don't get to the

cultural change, if you don't make movements, right, from top to bottom, it means nothing but we have to make these lives meaningful and if there's going to be a legacy with the lives that have been lost and if we're going to push this wall forward, we have to act and we have to do so dramatically from state to state and the federal government has to follow suit as well. >> joey jackson, chief ramsey, appreciate your insights. thank you very much. >> just quickly. we can talk about culture change all we want. until good cops stand up against the bad cops, it's not going to happen and that's what has to take place. that's how u you change the culture. the good cops have to stand up against the bad cops. stop keeping their mouth shut. step in, take action and say no. that doesn't belong here. you need to find somebothing el to do. >> amen to that. appreciate it. we're going to continue the conversation now with andrea young. thank you so much for your time

today. i want to start by just listening for viewers who were not with us in the last hour to some of the emotional words we heard from rayshard brooks' family. this is his cousin. >> how many more protests will it take to ensure that the next victim isn't your cousin? your brother. your uncle. your nephew. your friend. or your companion. so that we can finally end the suffering of police excessive force. we are tired. guy, we're tired. >> that last part, the last part. just to hear the emotion of we are tired. are you convinced that in the sadness and pain of the moment in atlanta, the reforms will actually come? >> well, we're all grieving with

the family. and and it is i'm still a little bit emotional from watching the press conference and you know, the point that was made is if there was absolutely no reason r for this to have ended with the death of this father of this family man, of this beloved member of our community. i do believe that we will see change. things are happening just this morning. we had thousands of people march to the capitol. calling for changes. stand your ground laws, citizens arrest laws, in police brutality. there are meetings going on this very day in atlanta, city hall. where members of the city council. looking to make changes. chief shields stepped down. very concerned and leadership in

the police are concerned and i believe, but most important, that young people of atlanta will not stop until serious reforms, in fact, transformation begins to happen in public safety in our communities because this is beyond policing. you know the people in that wendy's parking lot were in not by rashard brooks. they were endangered by police officers who shotguns, sh guns, crowded parking lot with families getting their dinner on a friday night. that is not public safety. >>. >> no, it is not. as you mepgsed the young people in the street, many are skeptical of all legacy institutions. whether it be the police department or aclu because they

believe if you've been around for a long time, why haven't you fixed the problem. i'm asking this genuinely. do you see a moment of opportunity to break down some of those trust barriers in the sense that most police departments, you mepntion eed t term aclu, they're going to say those are those liberal people who don't want us to have police powers. is there a moment to have the necessary conversation where everybody gets to respect and understand each other and therefore build? >> well you know, that's our legacy in atlanta in the worst days of the civil rights movement, atlanta was a place where people from all parts of the community came together to solve problems and i believe we will do that. and i believe that one of the ways those of us who have been around longer are earning the trust of our young people is that we are standing with them. we are listening to their voices. we are not going to accept resolutions that they are not supportive of. we are standing with them and fighting for them because it

breaks our hearts. that they still have to do this. it is hard breaking. for those of us who have been fighting for black lives to matter for generations. and so we are going to stand with them, we are going to do everything we can to protect them and protect their right to protest. and we are going to help them you know get the demands that they need to feel like they matter and that they are safe in their own communities. >> grateful for your insights and expertise today. wish you the best of luck in the difficult days. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. up next for us, the supreme court makes landmark ruling on the federal law that protects lgbtq workers and the fda has made a move against the malaria drug president trump had been push iing as a ground breaking coronavirus treatment. sixty-two thousand seven hundred

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a decision with major consequences in the worgs place. the high court says employers cannot fire a worker because he or she is gay transgender, the decision stunning because john roberts sided with the liberals as did neil gorsuch. the presumptive 2020 nominee hailing the decision last hour saying the supreme court has confirmed the simple but profoundly american idea that every human being should be treated with respect and dignity. let's discuss now with joan and steve. number one, 6-3. rare. and you have two, two of the quote unquote conservatives side ng the majority here. number two, this is a landmark civil rights ruling. >> yeah, you know, jon, i'm often reluctant to throw around the world lad landmark, but thi truly is, here it comes, five

years after the court declared a right to same-sex marriage, it breaks new ground into the workplace and says again by that 6-3 vote that a major civil rights law, title 7 of the 1964 civil rights act that bars discrimination covers people who are gay and lesbian and transgender. this is a milestone in america covering about 8 million people who identify as lgbtq and really breaking ground here. it was a textualist reading of that statute, but very generous to people who face discrimination and as you mentioned, joined by two conservatives. we had been wonderfing where ths court would be going since the resignation of justice kennedy who had written all the gay rights landmarks before, but here you have two conservatives, including chief justice john roberts who bitterly dissented

five years ago when the justices broke ground and said that there's a fundamental right to same-sex marriage. >> steve, let me read a little bit. he writes in title 7, congress adopted broad language make iint illegal for an employer to rely on an employee's sex when deciding to fire that employee. we do not hesitate to recognize today unnecessary consequence of that legislative choice. an employer who fires an individual merely for being gay or transgender defies the law. so justice gorsuch tried to say i'm not plowing any new ground and yet he and the court are. >> yeah, the key here is that the words of the statute have not changed in the you know 56 years since enacted but our understanding has. so for the majority in today's decision, i think the big part of this is when an employer fires someone because of their sexual orientation, because they're transgender, the employer is making the exact

decision congress, even way back in 1964, did not want the employer to make. jon, the big question is where does this go from here? is this just about title 7 or are we going to see similar angel is about discrimination based on sex extending to sexual orientation and transgender status. in pay equity and housing. that's the door this majority opinion has opened up today. >> it's a door that's opened up and a door that justice alito disagreed with. he writes -- that gets to steve's point. he says we have evolved in our understanding, the words aren't in the law, therefore you can't say what you say. >> actually, justice fwgorsuch

writing for the majority says the opposite. he says those words are precisely what's in the law and when you have to look at the words as they're right there in black and white in a statute versus the potential understanding in 1964, which of course the majority justice gorsuch and all others acknowledged in 1964, congress wouldn't have been thinking of sexual orientation of transgender but what gorsuch is saying is that the plain text wins here. there's no context between the sort of extra textual understanding of what congress wanted to do in 1964, the fact they wrote, the fact that lawmakers wrote because of sex, you cannot discriminate, because of sex, it naturally covers people based on their sexual orientation and their gender identity. >> we're going to wait and see whether there's a ripple effect expanding into other titles of

the law, but what is the impact today as joan noted, we all stopped in our tracks because the supreme court was a major civil rights moment when the supreme court said same-sex marriage is the law of the land in america. now you cannot discriminate against springboard in the wopl. what's the impact today and tomorrow? >> i mean if anything, i think we might see as large as impact as the gay marriage rule in 2015. it's that jon, every single employer, at least every single large employer in the country is now going to have to revise their policies. is now going to have the make sure when they're taking adverse employment actions, they're not doing so for these new prohibitive reasons. that's going to have a profound u effect not just in the workplace, but a sillover into other areas where we are increasingly seeing this kind of evolution of understandings of antidiskrcrimination jump from e workplace to you know, the

grocery store, to the you know, to the neighborhood out into our schools so i think the real significance to today's decision is not just for all of the employees who tomorrow will be protected by one of the most important civil rights statutes we have, but for the millions of americans who identify as gay, lesbian, transgender, who now can actually start to make other claims that they're entitled to equal protection of the laws just the same way as men and women are protected against discrimination based on their sex. >> very much appreciate your insights on this very important day for the court. thanks so much. up next, a major announcement from the fda on the controversial coronavirus treatment the president likes to promote. hydroxychloroquine. ll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health. ensure max protein. how abowhat a shame.wilson? so soon after retiring.

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this breaking news just in. the fda ending the emergency use authorization of hydroxychloroquine. the drugs president trump called game changers in the treatment of coronavirus. elizabeth cohen is with us now. why the big about face? >> well, because they realized what other people realized from the beginning, which is that this drug does not work against covid-19. everybody else it seems knew that before the fda did. let's take a look at the calendar of what happened here. back in march, the fda gave this emergency use authorization for

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much of the south and west heading in the wrong direction in our tracking of the coronavirus case trend line. first, let's look at the case map. this is the united states' total count. about 2 million cases. sadly about 115,000 deaths from coronavirus here in the united states. here are the latest trends. 18 states heading in the wrong direction. that's the orange and red. essentially go across the south off to the west up into montana. you see there 18 states heading

in the wrong direction. the orange. ten states holding steady. 20 states heading down. the northern half of the country, heading in the right direction when it comes to the case count. if you look at the new cases, some of the states we're watching closely, this is florida. spiking up. wrong direction to be headed in. arizona was up. seems to be trend doung a little. alabama and south carolina down here, they've moved up from a dip. the question is can they flatten that out or keep going up. texas is getting a lot of concern right now. these are the new cases, seven-day moving average. that is flat at best. somes to be trending up u at the end. somewhere around 2,000 new cases a day. some people raise concerns there. the governor says they've got it. their in charge. here's one of the things to keep an eye on. hospital aigss, a flat line starts to trend up when it comes to hospitalizations in texas now. some say the state reopened too quickly. among those who are worried, the judge in harris county.

that's where houston is, who oversees the coronavirus response. >> right now, we're seeing the that the spread is just too much for us to get a grip on. and we've reopened so fast that folks have gotten the idea life is back to normal and i hope i'm wrong. i hope that we don't end up having a crisis. and so we're throwing all we have at it, but certainly, i would have done it differently. >> the executive director of the harris county of public health. doctor, thank you so much for being with us. when you hear the judge say she's worried, should she be? is the increase at a dangerous level or just what you expected when you get more aggressive in the reopening? >> thanks for having me and i think the judge is right. that we are worried and this is not just worry from a number of angles, but particularly from a health angle. when we get to the numbers and you're look iing at overall cas, you're looking at overall cases

across texas and what's happening in our local community, it's not just the increase in testing and the increase in numbers that are testing positive. it's what's happening in our health care system, our hospital system. that's actually what is absolutely concerning to us, so yeah, i would say we are concerned. >> and so i just want to put up the harris county numbers over the past two weeks. the case count going up. you see it's flat, it goes up a little bit. you look at these numbers every day. you see a dip in the middle, but the overall my question is what's happening right now. and if you look at the 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, is that up? flat around 150? where are you? >> yeah, so this is what we've been talking about is the fact that every time you have an activity or event or milestone that there is what i call a layering effect that you have reopening that's occurred start ing with the state may 1st and there were milestones within the reopening plan. in addition to that, you had ooents like graduations and

obviously people getting together and all sorts of other activities and so each of those layer on top of another. mother's day. memorial day weekend. moving forward. we're going to have obviously father's day. fourth of july. all of that lay errs on top of each other so the question i'm getting asked a lot is did reopening or did other events have something to do with this and some say no, it doesn't didn't and the answer is absolutely it did. the hard part is to know how much. it's that quantify kags. that's really been the challenge. >> so when do you get to that point? you mention ed thooz these events. as we've been going through this, we're told just wait three or four weeks. more importantly, hospitalizations, rate of infection, are they going up at a manageable level or dangerous level. when will you know? >> we're watching this, i'll tell you, our team, this entire weekend has been working on this exact question.

we're looking at all sorts of indicators, all sorts of metrics and yeah, it is generally a few weeks after one of those activities, one of toews events, but concern that we have is that if we do get to this point where we have an inkrcredible increas in our health care system particularly icus, then that would be not just a concern, that would be an emergency. a crisis, a disaster. and that's why we're doing everything we can to remind everybody that we're not through this pandemic. jon, i think the key message is that we may be tired of this virus, but it's not tired of us. it is ready to continue to take aim at our community and we have to really rely on our community members to do everything they can to prevent themselves from getting sick by wearing the facial covering or social distancing and all those measures but at the end of the day, that's what translates into prevention so that people do not present to the health care system. that's what concerns us. that's what we're monitoring. very aggressively right now, but we are concerned.

>> and you have a new color coded threat system in the county now. red is severe, orange is significant, yellow is moderate. level four green is minimum. you're right now at two, orange. are you closer to red or closer to yellow? heading in the right or wrong direction? >> well, you know, we are, we're solid orange right now and obviously the, the judge revealed this, announced it last week and i think it is an absolute helpful way for our community to understand where we are because a lot's happened in several months. i think what the key issue is that if the choice is up to us whether the orange goes to yellow or the orange goes to red, it's about what we do as a community to prevent our community from really getting overrun by this pandemic. in this phase, not just what we did success ffully for four, fi months, that's why reopening and

our approach to reopening including what our community members are doing, but also our businesses, establishments and everything else we're doing from a response standpoint is going to dictate whether we go towards red or yellow and let's hope we go towards that direction and not in red. >> thank you for your insights as always. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. coming up, congress now working to try to find common ground on police reform, but there are om big roadblocks. (announcer) if your dog suffers from fear of thunder,

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meanwhile, we expect senate republicans will unveil their proposal on wednesday with tim scott leading that effort but there are very different views on how to handle policing nationally. republicans don't believe in telling state and local governments how they need to be handling policing. we don't expect that the republican proposal right now will include a ban on choke holds or no knock warrants although there are some republicans who support those things within the conference. instead, we expect them to be incentivising tate and local police officers to carry out best practices. now democrats want to make it easier to sue individual police officers in court in they misuse force or don't do their job appropriately. that's something republicans have said could be a poison pill. >> we'll see as the negotiations continue. lauren fox on the hill. appreciate it very much. the deputy assistant to the president says president trump plans to sign an executive order on police reform tomorrow. final points yet to be

finalized. the president making clear one thing that will not be included. he tweet ed this morning many democrats want to defund police departments. how crazy. not exactly true, but that's what you get when you read the president's tweets. with us now, kaitlyn collins. the president's assistant says this is coming. do we know how big, how broad, how significant or are we still waiting? >> we're still waiting. the final text of course we're not expecting to get until tomorrow and so far, we've got little snippets from white house officials detailing what we think is going to be in there. we don't expect it to be broad in the way you're hearing those discussions that lauren was just talking about on capitol hill. the white house has not let it in way really on police reform so far. they've let those conversations start and mainly go on on the hill. though we should note that the president's chief of stand and jared kushner did go up to the hill to talk to senate

republicans about what they were working on so the white house is going to put out this executive order. we do expect it to establish a national database for tracking the use of excessive force among officers. beyond that, it doesn't really seem clear exactly anything more than that and going to match the messaging you're seeing coming from capitol hill frrk across the country. those calls for big, sweeping police reform. that's not likely to be included in this executive order that we're supposed to get from the white house, that the president is supposed to sign tomorrow. >> and it's because of the timing any way. we're in a presidential re-election year. you have these demonstrations and protests all around the country. rayshard brooks now in the headlines just after george floyd was in the headlines so the president's trying to figure out what to do at this moment. do you try to reach out to those people in the streets or does the president stick to his tradition traditional history, which is and big the police. let's listen.

do we not have that sound? okay. the president, the president has repeatedly talked about law and order with the police. do we expect him to do something that could be a break? >> well i mean jon you and i are old enough to know when we've had these past major moments in the trump presidency where there seems to be this momentum for some bipartisan legislation, whether it's immigration or gun control, particularly after the el paso and dayton shootings last summer, there is that change. you can look at national polling. the public does believe that police departments need to be reformed. that incidents such as the george floyd shooting isn't a one off incident, that there are systemic problems in law enforcement and you see the president reaching out a little

bit. but then very often go back to this base, whether that's gun rights or the gun control situation or here, the law enforcement communities. so i mean, we've seen, we haven't seen, we haven't heard too much from the law enforcement community yet on what they think about these proposals from capitol hill. they could be quite influential but what the president is, what the president's proposing, what senate republicans are propose aren't going to go far enough for democrats here and a recipe for good luck. >> so now we can get to that sound to hear the president's history then we'll get to the other side of it, but the president has consistently said law and order in the wake of the george floyd and now rashard brooks, a lot of people have heard the sort of republican message of the '60s. not the one you need right now. let's listen to the president. >> we want law and order. we have to have a lot of good things, but we have law and order. if you have to do a job, somebody's really bad, you're going to have to do it with real strength. real power.

will not stand for these vile democrat smears against our law enforcement. that includes our great police. we must maintain law and order at the highest level or we will cease to have a country. >> you see the president over the years there. he is tweeting now that he's done more for african-americans than anybody. the poll numbers would suggest the african-american community doesn't believe that. but he faces a difficult choice here and 99 times out of 100 when faced with a choice, he sticks with his base. >> yeah. and he has privately voiced concern about not wanting to alienate police officers. he knows that he's got their support. mostly. you've seen how he talks when on the campaign trial and so the other question on the other side of this political equation is his advisers are worried about, they felt he had made enroads with black voters leading up to this and now their concern is

whether those gains have been erased. whether they lost that ground they felt they gained. the president has dug in on this law and order message. they believe it's a winning one. it's a risk and we don't know how it's going to pay off for the president. he's focusing less on police reform. more on the culture wars he's talk ed about in the past. but the question is his response meeting the national moment that you're seeing happening and how more widespread the calls for police reform have been during this shooting of f this, this death of this unarmed black man compared to so many others we've seen. so the question is does the president's political instinct work out for him again in this occasion and his advisers will say they don't know yet. >> they know yet. we'll get that tomorrow. that was very kind of you. we're both old enough. i've got a couple of weeks on you still i think. at best. up next, making a new pitch

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there's a new push to get elizabeth warren to the white house. cnn's mj lee joins us with that. >> well we know that joe biden is currently deliberating over one of his most important political decisions and that is who is he going to choose as his vp running mate and today we're seeing a fresh effort pushing

biden to choose senator warren. this is a letter that has now been signed by more than 100 activists, strategists and celebrities and they're saying that 2020 really is a the most important election of our lifetime. they see it as a crisis election that is going to require a big running mate. just want to read a part of that letter. they write the most important criteria is who would be the most capable to be president if necessary. in our view, elizabeth warren has proven herself most prepared to be president if the occasion arises and on covid-19, economic insecurity, racial injustice and climate change. now of course warren ran against biden in the 2020 and she endorsed him in april. this is a process that is very tightly guarded. the biden himself has committed to choosing a woman and said that there are multiple black female potential candidates that

he is looking at. we know there's going to be a lot of scrutiny on names like congresswoman deming or bottoms, particularly given the last few weeks that we have seen across the country and we know as far as timing goes, that he hopes to have somebody chosen by around august 1st. >> six weeks to go. thanks very much. and thanks for joining us today. hope to see you tomorrow. briana keilar picks up our coverage now. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. a family's pain is now a national rallying cry. a raw morning, the cousins of rayshard brooks demanding a conviction after police officers shot and killed mr. brooks in a friday night confrontation at a wendy's in atlanta. body cam footage shows brooks initially complied with police instructions