tv CNN Newsroom CNN August 27, 2020 8:00am-9:00am PDT
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hello, everyone. i'm kate ballian. welcome to all our viewers in the united states and around the world. nine hours after first making landfall in southern louisiana, hurricane laura continues to leave a path of destruction in its wake. we know of at least one death so far, a 14-year-old girl in louisiana killed when a tree fell on her home. the hurricane is one of the strongest to ever hit this country, becoming just the tenth storm in u.s. history to have winds reaching 1 are 50 miles per hour or greater when making landfall. it's also the most powerful storm to hit louisiana in more than a century.
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one relatively positive development i guess we can say is it appears that louisiana avoided the worst of the predictions of a 20-foot storm surge to come with these horrific winds, but make no mistake. hurricane laura is still very dangerous. not only was it overnight but also as we speak, flash flooding, heavy rains, high winds all still happening at this hour as storm, as you can see there from the radar is moving north very strongly. as this storm hit in the middle of the night, people are really just starting to get a sense of the damage that they are facing today. homes and businesses destroyed, trees down just everywhere, and that is likely just the beginning of it for folks. the storm also blowing out windows all over the place. hundreds of thousands of people are without power. the cleanup will no doubt be a herculean task. one. hardest hit communities is lake charles, louisiana, and that's
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where cnn's gary tuchman is and was overnothing. still standing there today, gary. how -- what are you seeing right now? >> reporter: well, kate, i've got to tell you it was absolutely a hellish night, maybe so much worse because this was at night. 125-mile-per-hour winds for an hour and a half shaking everything. i mean, we were in a hotel on 12th floor for part of time. it was like it was an earthquake. it just kept shaking and the sound, it sounded like an airplane going down the runway and a freight train combined. i was in that room for a while thinking how could anything less than this great big hotel in survive? believe it or not, this city, lake charles looked a little better than i imagined, but there are lots of places not looking very well, this is one of emthis. this was on tuesday, i passed by it, a very busy golden corral restaurant, and it's now been decimated. this is a main street here in lake charles, a very busy thoroughfare with stores and businesses. take a look down the street
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right here. you can see lots of power lines are down. we were very careful as we drove here to stay away from the power lines, that's a message for all you kids out there. never step on line live power lines. we don't do that when we cover these hurricanes. in this direction you see the same thing. the power lines down here. also next door to this golden corral, an insurance office. right over here and then behind the insurance office, a local tv station. we'll give them a plug, kswl, their tv station was heavily damaged. the fact is that right now, as you said, kate, a 14-year-old girl, first fatality announced by the governor's office in an area, a parish north of here, where the winds weren't as severe. it would be absolutely amazing if the death toll doesn't go higher than that. i fully expect it to. right now there are police and national guard on the roads in the air and in the water looking for people that they can help, but i'll tell you. i've got a lot of hurricanes in my career since the 1980s, and this was a really scary event,
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and the fact is what made it even scarier, people took it seriously. people were not wandering around yesterday even before this arrived. what made this scarey is a lot of people did not want to evacuate because this is the first time in our lifetimes that we've had a pandemic at the same time as hurricane season. a lot of people didn't want to leave and stayed in their homes so we're hoping the death toll doesn't go as high as it is right now. kate, back for you. >> let's continue to hope and pray that it does not, but just seeing some of the destruction and damage that you're seeing in just this one area, it does seem hard to believe, but we'll continue to wait and see and hope everyone as much as they could is evacuated and got back to safety. back to gary with more updates. thanks, gary, really appreciate it. let's talk about where hurricane laura is now, where hurricane laura is headed and what areas are still under threat as we speak. the cnn's meteorologist jennifer gray is joining us now. she's been tracking all of this. jennifer, what's the latest update that you're getting? what are you seeing in the
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hurricane's track? >> right, well, this is still a very significant storm. i just want to add a little bit of context to what gary was saying because he's 30 miles inland, and i fear when we get cameras down to say southern parrishes we'll see much, much damage. that's where the storm made windfall right around cameron. the storm is moving to the north at 16 miles per hour as the storm heads to the north and east. it's slowly weakening but still significant amount of wind damage will be felt all across central and northern louisiana. we have had wind gusts of 80 and 85 miles per hour in central louisiana, and we continue to see those tornado watch boxes as well, so the tornado threat is definitely there, and it will continue to be that way throughout the day. 52-mile-per-hour wind gusts in shreveport and 58 in nakanish and 44 in monroe.
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as the storm heads east, the wind will be the biggest concern, not the flooding because the storm is actually moving. it's not like storms we've seen in the past where they just sit on top of areas. current power outages, about half a million people without power. that number most likely will go up. a lot of trees across the region where the storm is headed in north louisiana and into arkansas, so we're going to see quite a few power outages because of those wind gusts staying so high. here's the maximum wind threat. you can see up to 110 miles per hour and that area is shaded in red. right now i would say the highest wind gusts we'll be getting is about 80, 85 and then that number will slowly go down as the storm continues to weaken, but still a tropical storm into portions of arkansas. 45-mile-per-hour winds and then downgraded to a depression most likely later tomorrow, so here are your forecast wind gusts as we bring the storm to the north. 80 miles per hour in shreveport and down to 63 by the time we
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get into is being -- into 1:00 p.m. and still a significant wind threat with this storm. here's the radar. you can see the center of the storm and the rain wrapping around it, and so that's going to continue to impact north, little rock, texarkana and then off to the north and east, kate. it's wild to see a storm still holding together this far north, this far inland, but i do think that we will see more damage and even more destruction as pictures come out across that southern coast of louisiana. >> yeah, absolutely. we'll be getting crews in there. we know we will. we'll stick close to you, jennifer. thank you. we're just beginning as jennifer is pointing out, just beginning to get a sense of the destruction left behind hurricane laura. it will take a bit to assess
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damming and get fully recovered especially in parts of louisiana. someone with perspective on this kind of recovery is craig fight, good to see you again. the as you hear through the stories of what people lived through overnight and seeing gary tuchman on the ground and damage he's seeing on the ground there in lake charles, what's going through your head as -- as -- from the posts that you've held and your expertise and kind of what louisiana and -- and the gulf coast is dealing with in this moment? >> well, governor edwards and his team in louisiana are battle hardened. you already heard there was already national guard on streets so they are not waiting for the storm to pass to do assessments. they are responding. same thing with fema region six and their folks moving in. search-and-rescue teams under mutual aid from surrounding states. all of these folks are moving over the last couple of days just to get ready for this storm. i think what we want people that can still hear us to understand,
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the danger is not over. in florida, our experience was as many people as we lost during the storm, we would often lose more after the storm in recovery. falls, heart attacks, car accidents, electrocutions. the message about stay out of water, stay away from power lines. we lost a family that way, so if you're safe in your home and everything is okay, stay off the roads and check on your neighbors because that could be the fastest response. >> yeah. that is an excellent point to make, as many people are injured and lost in the midst of a storm. it's the immediate aftermath when people are going out that can be just as dangerous. i mean, with the storm that hits in the middle of the night, it is really now just, you know, as the sun is up, that people will be able to get a sense of the damage. how long do you think with assets that are moving in and have been pre-position, how long do you think it will be before they really grasp and get a full sense of the extent of the
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damage from this storm? >> i think they will be getting that over the next couple of days. their priority right now is just to get into areas and do search and rescue. those will be, you know, the most critical things that have to be done now. start working on getting in emergency someplace, food, things like that, and in power restoration as you've seen. this is going to go up in arkansas, and people may discount tropical storm force winds. more people are losing power due to falling limbs. once we get search and rescue and supplies into the hardest hit areas, the big drier of of this will be getting the power back on. >> i want to play for you what the current head of fema on abc this morning talked about responding to a hurricane in the midst of a pandemic. let me play this. >> when you think about evacuation, you think about sheltering, you're going to need more time and space. we're not going to put people -- where we can, we won't put people into traditional shelters like gymnasiums. we'll put them into hotels >> you know, he says that they
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are prepared and they have been prepared, but how much does the pandemic and the threat of covid complicate emergency emergency response efforts after something like this? >> it adds to the challenge but probably the biggest challenge with a the communication to the public. covid is bad and drowning is worse and people that did not evacuate, that they are now having to launch search and rescue on, that's the biggest concern that we've seen is the fear of covid, people not heeding evacuation orders, understanding that some areas may not have significant damage and were pieced but go we don't evacuate the risk of drawning is so great that we never get that back so that's been the ongoing challenge and will be a challenge the rest of the hurricane season is we evacuate water. water is the greatest danger from these storms, the biggest killer, and you have to weight risk of covid versus drowning when you're making decisions about the safety for you and your family. >> absolutely. craig fight, thanks for coming on. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. coming up for us, we'll have more on this breaking news as we
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follow hurricane laura, still a danger, still a threat as craig fight was just pointing out. one storm chaser who rode it out in lake charles will be joining us and what it was like overnight and how it compares to all storms he's seen. also ahead, new details about the 17-year-old now charged with first-degree homicide following that deadly shooting of protesters in wisconsin. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. ♪
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shooting, but social media posts do place him at the scene of tuesday's protests, and police are trying to make a definitive determination if he's the person seen in multiple videos armed with a long gun. protests over the police shooting of jacob blake stretched into a fourth night last night. last night's common administrations, as you can see there, were far more peaceful than what we saw play out earlier this week. let's go there. cnn's shim owen prokupecz is standing by in kenosha for us. shimon, what are you learning about this teenager charged with first-degree homicide now? >> only 17, as you pointed out, and what we know is from the police. they say he doesn't live far from here in antioch, illinois, and as you said, it's just not clear why he opened fire on other people killing two and then injuring another person. of course, this is all part of the investigation, but it's very clear that by bringing charges
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at the very least investigators believe he had no right to fire this we op, that there was no right to self-defense. there was a facebook group encouraging vigilantes to come here, to help protect property. property, kate, think about it, that didn't even belong to them. they were here on their own protecting various businesses, doing this on their open, and he was part of that group. how he came into contact with that group is not clear yet. also, how he obtained the weapon. he's 17 years old in possession of a long rifle. that is also part of the investigation. he's in custody right now in antioch. he's expected at some point to come here. on friday he'll be in court there where he'll have an extradition hearing and then he'll make his way here at some point to face the murder charges, kate. >> and there's new information, shimon, come out about jacob blake's shoot and the officer involved with that. the what are you learning? >> reporter: right. the officer is a seven-year
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veteran. police here, authorities here finally identified him, finally release some information. his name is rustin shesky, a seven-year veteran. we also learned from authorities that they recovered a knife from the vehicle, from jacob blake's vehicle, but it does not really explain yet why police shot him seven times in the back, and a the mere fact that just because he had a knife doesn't necessarily mean that police would be justified in shooting him the way he did. police came out yesterday and admitted that this was done in a way where he was shot several times in the back, but they are not explaining why the officer fired. the did he feel threatened in some way? did mr. blake have the knife in his hand? what caused the officers to pull their guns out, chase him around the car, follow him into the car and pull him and that one officer obviously firing his
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weapon? the other thing, kate, that we learned and we're told is that the department of justice, the fbi, are now a part of this investigation and have opened up a civil rights investigation and that will parallel with the local case and this will be up to the district attorney or not as to whether he'll file charges against that officer. >> clearly much more to come. shimon, thank you. joining me is the alderman and president of the kenosha city council anthony kennedy. thanks for take time to get on. i've wanted to get your reaction to this 17-year-old. >> can you hear me? >> i'm not the council president. my term ended in april, and my name is anthony kennedy. >> that's what i said. i'm sorry if i misspoke. i believe i said anthony kennedy. apologies. the can i get your reaction to the 17-year-old now arrested and charged in this shooting incident in which two protesters were killed and another wounded?
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>> i have been adamant in stating that there are outside agitators coming to our town to disrupt and destroy things, and that narrative hasn't been listened to until tuesday night and now you have the proof. we have told you this. we kept repeating this. we knew this to be true and because the faces we were seeing were not faces that we know. that doesn't mean that i know every single person in kenosha. it's not that big of a town, and you go placed and when there's large crowds you see the same face and those faces were not familiar to us, so we told that there was going to be outsidage kateors. we know that certainly media was weaponized and was being weaponized to serve of someone
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else's agenda. these people being here, the being rioters, they have nothing to do with police reform or building capacity in our community. they are here to sow destruction. we told you about it. you didn't listen, and now here's the consequences. >> who are you speaking to when you say that? >> i'm speaking to -- who is the we that i'm referring to or who is the you i'm referring to? the you. who is the you? who wasn't listening? >> i would say that members of the media wasn't listening. i would say that officials weren't listening. >> i want to play for you -- >> this information has been weaponized and such a speed and factor that it's not just some thought exercise, it's not just typing and some things into a website. this is translogan airporting
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into calls for action, not help us build anything, not helping us put capacity in place. just to so destruction. those rioters,ings those looters, trying to destroy the fabric of things we've build in this community. >> let me play for you something that the kenosha police chief said about -- about this last night. let me play this for you. >> persons who were out after the curfew became engaged in some type of disturbance and persons were shot. everybody involved was out after the curfew. i'm not going to make a great deal of that, but the point is the surfew is in place to protect. had persons not been out involved in violation of that, perhaps the situation that unfolded would not have
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happened. >> what seems to be glaringly missing there from the police chief is that this 17-year-old was also out past curfew. it sounds like the police chief here is blaming the victims, blaming the protesters that were killed, is that how you hear this? >> no. the what i hear is a man taxed to the limits of his ability in his charge to keep our city safe, a man who has been running a pitched ball for three days in a row. if he don't have the tone or messaging right, i'm willing to give him a mass because i know what he and his administration was been tlum, and i'm just sitting in a base answering
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email. i can't imagine whaj my cev is like crying to control the department. trying to really do that protect thing and protect and serve. what i hear is the tone. i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. if he had a good night sleep he would have given you a much more informative and better statement. having said that, now that we have additional natural here, it's my hope that the police department can transition from a military operation, because that's really what we had, we had military operations, the running battles, and they did transition into law enforcement, enforcement of the law. one of the questions that was asked of me is why aren't they arresting people? you arrest someone, that resource can take that person away from the scene to process them, et cetera, et cetera, it takes a person, takes a police officer, a law enforcement officer off the line and the
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chief, and he didn't tell me this. i haven't been briefed by this, but it's my opinion that the chief needed every single person that you can possibly get so you have to make some decisions that are pretty darn hard. >> okay, around i'm not willing -- well, let me back up and say that hopefully we start transitioning to law enforcement and there is a curfew in place and that good guy with the gun that showed up to help us that got -- that 17-year-old that helped us, that lie, that absolute lie, that white supremist. he gets arrested. unfortunately the kid with the spray can in his and he gets detained also, but the curfew is there and it's been hard to -- to enforce the curfew given the amount of violence that these rioters, looters and white supremacists have started in our community. >> anthony kennedy, it thank you very much for coming on. appreciate it. >> thank you for the opportunity. >> still ahead for us, hurricane
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we continue to track hurricane laura. one of the strongest storms to ever make landfall in the united states, and storm chasers are helping us to see just how powerful this storm truly was when it slammed into louisiana overnight. take a look at this video. we're going to show you this from storm chaser brandon clement. it's really amazing how easily it looks like that rv is just tossed over. brandon clement, that storm chaser who recorded this video and has been in the middle of it, he's joining me now by the phone. brandon, you sat out the storm in lake charles. you're headed south now. what are you seeing along the way? >> i'm seeing a lot. i'm seeing more intense damage. you can definitely tell the hurricane weakened as it came inland which, of course, is what they are supposed to do, but we
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we're seeing a difference in the winds as we work our way south, seeing a train that was completely derailed, long train, a bunch of different houses and businesses and farms destroyed or missing roofs, or the sheet metal then all over the fields. it looks a lot like tornado damage. >> it's interesting you put it that way because that's -- when you -- the way it's been described is how long the winds kept up at such an intense rate, like a level of an f--2 tornado sitting there for like an hour plus. what did that -- what did it feel like overnight? how could you -- how would you describe the power of this storm? >> it was a lot like a tornado. it's a lot like the hurricane has been in, like harvey and michael. the biggest difference between it and say harvey was this storm was moving quite a bit faster than harvey.
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harvey just stalled in rockport, texas, i was there for four hours. this one, the most intense winds lasted only 20 to 30 minutes. it had strong wind on either side of that but your real core eye wall winds didn't last very long so i think it helped keep the damage down some, but it still is extensive damage all over, you know, southwest louisiana. >> are you able to move about easily? i mean, because the -- the head of the storm, the mayor of lake charles said that his biggest concern that was was that not enough people were evacuating to safety, and i'm wondering if you're seeing people out and about? >> you know, roads -- roads have been manageable so far in some places. trees and power lines are all over the place. i'm kind of used to driving through, that so we can zigzag our way and manage through it some. other areas, just a lot of trees and just not possible. just multiple trees on every road. i haven't seen a whole lot of
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people out and about, but i've definitely seen more today than i was this time yesterday when the storm was approaching. >> yeah. well, we're thankful you're there and we're looking forward to seeing what you see and can show as you're heading towards -- towards the coast. really appreciate it, it brandon. >> thank you. coming up for us, nba players saying they are not going to take the field refusing to take the field in protest of the police shooting of jacob blake sparking a series of protests across the world of sports. how this is far beyond sports now. where this goes from here ahead. . i want a sugar cookie... wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want... ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.
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the ripple effects of the jacob blake shooting by police is now sending real shock waves through the world of sports unlike anything we've really seen. what's left of the nba season is now very suddenly up in the air after yesterday, a boycott by the milwaukee bucks. at least two nba teams now say the playoffs should be called off all together. what you're seeing there is the milwaukee bucks reading their statement. this movement is spreading now far beyond the nba. teams are boycotting games a
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and -- in major league baseball, soccer, all taking a stand here. andy scholes joins me now with more. this is pretty remarkable. what's going to happen now? >> there's a role possibility that the nba playoffs is over. these athletes, they are taking a stand. they are demanding a change, demanding justice and they say, you know, they may not play now to try to accomplish that goal and yesterday it really was a historic day and right now the nba board of governors and players are holding meetings discussing how to move forward and this comes after last night that the players, the players in the nba bubble had a meeting, and according to espn the lakers players and clippers players voted to end the playoffs, to not continue on. according to espn, that was more of a poll not a final vote so this situation is still very flumptd we could get an answer, you know in, a matter of minutes, but this comes after the milwaukee bucks staged a boycott of their game five against the orlando magic. the magic were on the floor but
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the bucks did not come out to the floor. they stayed in their locker room for hours talking to wisconsin's attorney general and other state leaders and after a very long time they didn't come out from the locker room and made this statement. >> the when we take the court and represent milwaukee and wisconsin, we are expected to play at a high level and give maximum effort and hold each other accountable. we hold ourselves to this standard and in this moment we are demanding the same from lawmakers and law enforcement. we're demand us justice for jacob blake and demand that all officers be held accountable. >> in the nba they are talking about how to go forward if they decide to go forward. right now there is a game schedule between the jazz and the nuggets at 4:00 eastern. i highly doubt that takes place. whether or not the season continues, of course, up in the air. >> another part at statement, despite the overwhelming plea for change there's been no action so our focus today cannot
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be on basketball. it's pretty amazing. andy, thank you. much more could be coming in minutes. andy is sticking by for that. so you have that coming from the milwaukee bucks, and really sports stars, humans with real power in terms of their star power. athletes look up to and also provide entertainment which everyone loves. there's power in that. they are standing out there making a statement and from the trump white house they now say they don't care. trump white house officials are now responding to this boycott and the demand for action from the sports world. this morning jarred kushner and the vice president's chief of staff both dismissed this protest all together. listen to this. >> look, i don't know that you can see the administration weigh on that in one way another. in my mind it's absurd and silly. >> i think the nba players are very forward that they have the financial position where they are able to take a night off from work without having to have the consequences to themselves financially so they have that luxury which is great.
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look, i think with the nba there's a lot of activism and i think that they have put a lot of slogans out, but i think what we need to do is turn that from slogans and -- and signals to actual action that's going to solve the problem. >> that's all they want, just a night off from work. it's noteworthy they are making their position very clear and remember that all of the protests we've seen since george floyd's death and now you have the death of jacob blake and, of course, an investigation continues surrounding that, but you still have not had president trump has still not said anything about the shooting of jacob blake. vice president mike pence last night speaking at the republican convention did not mention his name. just remember that. coming up for us, the cdc director defending his agency. his agency's sudden change on who should be getting tested for covid. did the cdc cave to pressure from the white house? why wasn't dr. anthony fauci consulted on that final decision?
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the director of cdc is defending the agency's abrupt change to testing guidelines today which now say that if you've been exposed to coronavirus you don't necessarily need to get tested for covid. cdc director robert redfield insisting the changes came quote in conjunction with the white house coronavirus task force, received appropriate attention, consultation and input from experts and yet a source telling cnn that the change came, quote, from the top down. and a very important member of that task force dr. fauci denies
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that he was involved in approving the final changes telling sanjay gupta he was having surgery at the time and that he is quote concerned about the interpretation and worried it gives people the idea that asymptomatic spread is not of great concern, in fact, it is. joining me now is dr. daniel mcquinlan with the infectious diseases society of america, a major group calling the cdc's change to the guidelines a mistake and they're speaking out. your group is calling for the immediate reversal of this guidance. explain why. >> we were as surprised i think most people in our field were. testing to determine the extent of disease and particularly in a disease like this where it's very clear that asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic people transmit the infection is essential to
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limiting the spread and when you have a disease where we have some interventions that are there puttically worthwhile but nothing that will quickly erase the disease from a person and we don't have prevention in terms of vaccine this tracing is essential to limiting spread into populations where you can suddenly go from nothing to full-on epidemic in se a nursing home or a college or wherever. >> there's no evidence, there's no evidence, new evidence out there it's any different than we knew all along. it is a real thing and problem and is something that has to be accounted for. the vice president's chief of staff was on cnn earlier today and he -- i don't know if we can say finally now giving an actual reason why they changed the guidance. let me play for you what he said. >> sure. >> the guidance that was updated
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is because there continue to be backlogs in the system with the testing particularly for people tested for asymptomatic. >> a backlog in testing is what he says. if that's the reason to chang the guidance because they can't keep up is that acceptable? >> i would say no. there is clearly a backlog in pcr testing that are done at big, commercial labs but what it speaks to is that something that's not a secret to anyone, we don't really have enough testing at this point. obviously you want to be able to use testing onnen in that you suspect has the illness as a first intervention. but you really need to use testing in asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic people to find out where the risk spots are and
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be able to deal with them in a preventive manner. if you do a test and there's a delay more than 24 to 48 hours your ability to use that potentially positive test to tell people that had contact with that person to quarantine and stay away from others is diminished significantly. that is a problem. on the other hand there are other places like the state i'm in of massachusetts where this kind of testing is done in hotspot areas and has been very effective in trying to bring the epidemic under control in those areas. >> it's honestly scary and concerning at this point in the pandemic if this is the route to go. what it means in getting our arms around it and controlling it. thank you. >> my pleasure. unrest in wisconsin aern hurricane laura, how the vice president addressed these major,
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republican convention last night this is how he addressed it. >> but rioting and looting is not peaceful protest. tearing down statues is not free speech. and those who do so will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. let me be clear. the violence must stop. whether in minneapolis, portland or kenosha. >> cnn's ryan nobles is joirning me. ryan, donald trump has yet to mention jacob blake's name. do you think the mounting pressure happening outside of republican circles is going to, i don't know, change any of that as he gets set to make his big speech tonight? >> reporter: the campaign says there's a good chance that president trump will mention the jacob blake situation in the speech tonight but the question is how does he frame this situation and what republicans have done and what this campaign has done since the very gunning of these protests around the
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country is not so much focus on the root of the problem, the situation with policing in america but the aftermath, the violence and the looting that grows out of these protests and then play that back into their general law and order message. this is what republicans believe is a winning message for them particularly with suburban voters to scare in many ways what this means going forward so yes president trump may talk about it tonight but i think what is important to watch is the way that this is framed and if he moves the conversation forward in any respect or if they continue to just hammer home this law and order message which is really a big basis and a big part of the campaign to this point. >> real quick, the same time timed with the speech, a big group of republican campaign veterans of john mccain's saying they'll support joe biden. >> reporter: also alumni of the george w. bush administration, as well. i think the big difference from
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what we saw in 2016 to 2020 is that there are many republicans that are coming forward not just saying they can't support donald trump but saying they're actually going to cast a ballot for joe biden. that is a big distinction between what we saw four years ago and saw this time around. whether or not that has any impact on rank and file republicans remains to be seen but the biggest development of what happened in 2016 and now. >> rye i can't an, thank you. john king picks up the coverage right now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing a very busy news day for us. the president closes the convention tonight and if the first three nights are a guide what you hear will not match the coronavirus or economic or back to school reality. the vice president last night's headliner and revisionist
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