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trying to convince bob woodward and perhaps himself that he handled the coronavirus pandemic perfectly. >> nothing more could have been done. >> well -- >> i acted early. >> we'll -- >> acted early. we'll see. >> that is one month ago, august 14th. the president in a final call trying one last time to shape a book by then was already at the publisher and in production, a book that uses the president's own words to frame a damning verdict on his pandemic mismanagement and deceit. the 19th interview between the president and woodward, 18 of those conversations are sprinkled throughout the book "rage" due out this week. the 19th in the summer coronavirus surge. american covid deaths averaging 1,000 or more a day, america's parents facing the stress and confusion of back to school questions, millions still out of work. and yet the president wanted woodward to see this as a

smashing success. jamie gangel is back. one last call to woodward to say it's not a bad thing but a good thing. >> it's known as selling in the real estate world and calls him one last time just for context. on august 14th more than 168,000 americans have died. but that's not what the president is thinking about. he knows the book is done. he knows it's coming out in september and he calls woodward because he wants to find out how he's portrayed in the book. and during this conversation you will see he keeps talking about the stock market but woodward begins by telling him bluntly, the book is tough. >> it's a tough book, sir.

and you -- you have your say and there's going to be a lot of controversy about it, i expect. the whole business with the covid and dealing with that is laid out and so it's close to the bone and you helped me get from and i appreciate that. >> all right. well, we have done better than most countries with covid. you're starting to see that. >> i mean, parts of the book you're not going to like. >> what won't i like, bob? >> just, you know, there's -- it's tough times. the virus as you repeatedly told me and as you've said publicly, it's derailed things, and it's a -- it's a big reality in people's lives as you know so i will get it to you and -- >> you know, the market is coming back very strong.

you do know that. >> yes, of course. >> do you cover that in the book? >> oh, sure. >> the market is coming back. but listen to this next exchange because trump is not giving up. he keeps talking about the stock market. we are now six, seven months into the virus but woodward keeps pressing him that the important thing is the virus. >> it's going to be a contest between you and biden. it's going to be a contest between both of you and the virus. the virus is set because it's in real people's lives. you know? all those tens of millions of people who don't have jobs, who don't have -- >> i know. >> that income. listen. i mean, you and i -- >> nothing more could have been done. nothing more could have been done. i acted early.

acted early. >> this will be the history that we start the first draft of. it will continue and -- >> so you think the virus totally supercedes the economy? >> oh sure. but related. >> little bit. >> oh, little bit if. >> more than a little bit but the economy is doing -- look. we are close to a new stock market record. >> he still duraoesn't get it. nothing more could have been done to repeat trump's words. i started early. we know that's not true and we know up until last night with an indoor rally, no social distancing, people not wearing masks. >> this is a theme throughout the book and a pattern for the president, striking he listens so much. he's listening to woodward trying to figure out how bad for me is this? the silence, you can hear the

silence if you will but this point he focuses on the stock market, 1,000 americans dying a day then, the case count going you were. he focuses on this one thing, the stock market. millions of small businesses are going out of business. the ppp money is running out. obsession with the stock market and i have done well. >> correct. as you go through the woodward book what you see is an ongoing pattern. so it wasn't just in february and march that he was privately saying to woodward that it was terrible and playing it down publicly. we went back through the book and there is a pattern that continues. the president is telling woodward one thing and he's telling the public another. april 5th, trump to woodward, it's a horrible thing, it's unbelievable. can you believe it? it moves rapidly and viciously. if you're the wrong person and

if it gets you your life is pretty much over. if you're in the wrong group. it's our age group. and again, a week later, trump to woodward april 13th, it's so easily trance missible you wouldn't even believe it. i was in the white house a couple of days ago, meeting of ten people in the oval office. and a guy sneezed. innocently, not horrible. just a sneeze. the entire room bailed out. okay? including me, by the way. so the president -- i american, this is very human moment. how many of us over the past six months have thought about i don't want to be around someone who sneezes or coughs? the president in april is worried himself about the coronavirus. but publicly just to remind you i want to play three pieces of sound, i believe this is april,

may, june. he's saying the opposite to the public. >> it's going to go away. eventually it will be gone. it will be gone. going away. >> obviously it's not gone away, john. i think it's important, august 14th, that last call, a month ago, look at what's happening today. look at the fact he's still mocking masks, the indoor rally. still trying to pressure to move quickly on the vaccine. what happened last night was dangerous and reckless and as woodward says in the book we are seeing a continued failure of leadership. >> it is a continuation of the deceit if you will. airborne transmission, this is dangerous, deadly stuff. china is not on top of it. you're right, the rally last night is a continued part of the

aural is well, all is good, i was perfect. we see more of it. in this relationship, it is fascinating, we have calendar graphics to show you. 19 interviews, it starts in december. 74 minutes, 78 minutes, woodward thinks it's a book about donald trump gets out of impeachment heading into re-election year. mad at mueller and democrats and trying to xarexact revenge. january 2020 we don't know much about the virus. three calls in january. 25 minutes, 36, 17 minutes and then into february and 7th where bob woodward starts to hear ash about the virus, it's bad. 35 murinutes, 14 minutes. may, june, 11, 47 minutes. 17 minutes, 29 minutes, the last call 10 minutes. a month ago.

7 of the 19 calls initiated by the president of the united states trying to make the case once he learned how bad the book was it was short conversations and woodward stalking him. 7 of the 19 instigated by the president trying to talk to woodward and write the book for him. >> correct. just to be clear, the white house has said that woodward had his personal cell. the implication that he was the one calling the president all the time. seven calls were trump to woodward, especially you see a pattern at the againing and then at the errand. and these calls were unexpected. they were sometimes late at night. i am guessing they were from the residence and that the white house does not know what's in these audiotapes and what else is out there. >> and one of the things we were talking about this yesterday discussing some of this is the sense of an early copy of the book.

you caught the white house off guard with the audio clips, they didn't have the book yet and didn't understand the audio, the white house aides don't know, didn't know about a lot of the calls and know now. in terms of them catching urnp book, the president saying i didn't lie. his own voice lays out that he lied. you don't need to read the book, you should, but where are they now at the white house? do they understand the scope of this? this is interesting. i actually checked this woodward this morning. as of this morning the white house had not called him to either complain about the book or as would be typical in a normal white house they hadn't called to ask for a courtesy copy of the book so as far as woodward knows they still do not have a copy of the book. >> jamie gangel, thank you again. >> thank you. >> very important reporting. let's get reactions and

expertise of two experts. i want to start with you because we had a conversation for months now. you are a leader of an organization get my ppe. but when you hear the president say i acted early, everything that could be done was done, you hear that in the president's own voice knowing what you lived through, what goes through your mind? >> it is so disappointing and heart breaking, john. there was an opportunity in february where the president and the executive branch could have provided federal leadership. the president has a mega phone. in the words of teddy roosevelt, he has a bully pulpit. he could have shaped conversation, invested in personal protection equipment, he could have invested in good testing to distribute across the united states.

we still continue to lack all three of those and it is just so tremendously disappointing to hear in the president's own words that he knew and didn't act and put us all at risk. >> and doctor, that's the part that kicks you in the teeth. i don't know another phrase, that would be a stronger phrase, but to hear the president talking in february and throughout how devastating it iis dangerous it is and then the dozens of times he told something different to the american people. in this final conversation on august 14, one month ago that we just played some clips from, in the context here look at the coronavirus deaths at that point. there were 1,300, more than that day. you lived this, sir. you know it better than i do. the case count up around 70,000 new infections a day. more than 1,000 americans dying a day and hear that day the president say i acted early, i did everything thattic.

hey, bob, the stock market's great. why is the book tough? >> right. what is so infuriating is that this president knew with really an exquisite detail since the end of january how lethal this virus was and would be. but yet, he played it down but his -- the affect of playing it down told large swaths of this country they didn't need to worry about it and didn't need to wear masks and the social distance. the president said they did everything but that's absolutely not the case. the first u.s. patient tested positive january 20th and took 50 days, that's about a week short of 2 months, for the u.s. to test a total of 20,000 patients. that was our window of opportunity. those two months were a window of opportunity to contain this virus. we couldn't get testing

together. a month after that first patient tested positive our surgeon general scolded the country against wearing masks. that was our window of opportunity to get this under control and then even when it was clear what was happening throughout the spring and early summer the president refused to embrace mask wearing, encouraged the states in the southern tier to open as quickly as possible and what happened? when they opened quickly it ignited the virus. florida and texas and arizona. the president says nothing could be done? it's closer to nothing was done. and during all that time, you know, about 1,000 health care workers in the united states were losing their lives to put this fire out. anger is really what i feel. >> anger, anger, understandable anger, and the sense to argue, listen here to the president

that it continues to this day saying to bob woodward about how dangerous this is and something completely different to the american people and having this conversation 50 days to election day and the president wants you to believe that he was perfect and that this is all behind us. so far behind us that he believes even though nevada state law says you cannot he held an indoor rally with a packed crowd and listen how he said i'm not worried. >> aren't you -- getting covid in an enclosed? >> no. not concerned. i i'm more concerned about how close you are. >> sorry about this. >> you know why? i'm on a stage and pretty far away and not at all concerned. >> it's not just what he says but how he says it, making a joke about the reporter five or six feet away and we live in the united states of america and he is the president of the united

states of america essentially mocking the idea that why would you be worried about packing people in a room like that? dr. fauci says don't do it. dr. birx says don't do it. and he does it. >> yeah. it is absolutely mind boggling and the thing about that quote that michael cohens strikes me is he talks about himself being six feet away but about the people in the audience squished together without masks shouting and yelling? things most likely to lead to the spread of covid-19. shows a lack of respect for his own supporters, unfortunately. the other thing that strikes me is that he says he doesn't want to test, doesn't want to talk about it because he durant want to cause panic. i'm an e.r. doctor and deal with panic or potential for panic every day but what do i do? i don't preternd a situation isn't happening. i prepare. i make sure i have everything

near me needed and communicate with the team and when needed i call in experts like cardiologists or trauma surgeons to help me do the best possible job for the person in front of me and that's what a president should be doing, calling in and leaning on experts and preparing for what comes next. we continue to hear him not doing that and as dr. rhiner worsening the impact for all of us. >> if the president's management was so perfect then why to this day do we hear reports that the white house is reaching out to try toen fluns the work of the cdc to essentially change the words, the guidance, keep things from the american people that they could use to make their decisions about going back to work or whether to send your kids back to school? >> we've seen this from the beginning, we saw the administration put a very heavy hand on the professionals who have done such a spectacular job throughout the history of the

agencies. early on they pressured the fda to issue an eua for hydroxychloroquine despite there being absolutely no data. right? we saw recently this really stilted release of the eua for plasma and now we see the mmwr, the really voice of the cdc being pressured by political hacks to try and change the message. they're trying to craft the message from our scientific organizations. this is not about the message. this is about science. but yet, the white house again tries to gag or alter the speech of our scientists. >> hard to do when every american is living through this one way or another. doctors, gradefteful to both of you. we'll continue the conversation.

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yes, hope is alive and well. see what scholarship you qualify for at phoenix.edu. the new audio we just played you adds to a damning portrait of the president's denial of or disconnect from the painful america coronavirus reality. in his conversations with bob woodward the deceit is laid bare and repeatedly told him about the severity of the threat and the public comments over those weeks and months played down the threat, mocked scientists and governors and promised the president did to soon all go away and in this new clip jamie gangel obtained today, the president gets a last attempt to get woodward to see it his way and makes the case if wall street is happy then the rest of america must be, as well. >> what won't i like, bob?

>> well, just, you know, it is tough times. the virus as you repeatedly told me and as you've said publicly, it's derailed things. and it's a big reality in people's lives. as you know. so i will get it to you and -- >> you know the market's coming back very strong. you do know that. >> yes, of course. >> did you cover that in the book? >> oh, sure. >> joining us now to discuss, dana bash and david gergen. dana, we know the president obsesses about the stock market but one month ago having a final conversation, 1,300 americans died a day. we had just gone through a summer surge where on some days 68,000, 70,000 new infections.

>> this is not a surprise given our own reporting on how obsessed the president has been in private conversations with friends about the stock market and was from the very beginning of the coronavirus hitting the shores of america but it is completely different to hear as you said the president of the united states talking about that last month with things so dire and then if you just kind of putt that on the overlay of last night, john, where thousands of people were indoors at his invitation, at his rally, mostly not wearing masks, definitely not socially distancing, especially given the fact that we not just know about the fact that the president knew in early february that it's an airborne virus but even according to the new recordings he again is talking about what it is like to be in the white house and when he is -- he personally is afraid of the virus and yet he is

subjecting people who don't believe that this virus is as deadly as even he says it is to, you know, very, very dire circumstances right now,last night. >> david, i can't find the words for it so i try to let you do that for me. you have advised four presidents. to have now laid bare, not just in the new audio today but the cumulative effect of the new audio last week and the book the president telling bob woodward this is horrible, terrible, spreading and telling the american people something different, over weeks and weeks, and to hear him saying why is this book tough on me, bob? i acted early. just from your experience and perspective, what do you see in this president at this moment from these recordings and the book? >> these are the most damning

recordings to come out of the white house at least since watergate. other presidents taped the calls out of the oval officer and the inter office conversations but nothing like this even with nixon. nixon was a violation of the law, massive violation of the law but this led to unnecessary deaths. by not acting early, columbia university study finds if he acted one week earlier he could have saved 36,000 people, 2 weeks earlier he could have saved 54,000 people. he said what more? we couldn't do anything more. that's nonsense. even today he can do a lot. what do the models show us about the future? that the number of people dying in this country could well double by covid before the end of the year. that means taking action now, not sending signals at the

rallies to distance, wear a mask. the other things he is failing to do is a massive failure of leadership and dereliction of duty. >> the deceit, my word, you mentioned the rally, trying to convince enough people pay no attention to the scientists including hi own. listen here to dr. birx and dr. fauci. >> i just think we need to hunker through and get through this fall and winter because it's not going to be easy. i don't talk about second surges because we are still in the first surge. >> a lot of the spread happening now is happening in the neighborhoods and family gatherings because we make assumptions that if i know you you couldn't have covid but people we know are asymptomatic and can pass the virus on. >> as in stay distant, wear a mask, do not have a giant indoor rally and pretend this is not

happening and yet the president wants to pretend this is not happening. >> yeah. you love the wizard of oz, this is the ultimate pay no attention to the man behind the curtain but they're the scientists, the real people kind of getting the information, trying to get it out there. you saw deborah birx in a mask. you saw anthony fauci, you hear them. not just actually working for the president but on our air all the time who have access to data pleading with people not to do exactly what the president did last night and you said it. there's an alternate reality. there really is that the president has unfortunately in many cases successfully created if you just look back at last week the conversations that jim acosta and our other colleagues who have gone into these rallies, into the crowds and

talked to people, they don't believe what the scientists are saying. and they just are kind of ignoring it and dangerous for all of us because as we know unless everybody agrees on the basic set of facts on the -- how transmitible this virus is we can't do anything about it without a vaccine and that could be a while. >> appreciate the insights. we'll continue the conversation. 50 days to election day. up next, sally is now a hurricane and getting stronger. a live report from new orleans just ahead.

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this just in to cnn. tropical storm sally is hurricane sally. warnings all the way to the alabama/florida border. the governor of alabama issues a state of emergency as residents in louisiana still reeling from the effects of hurricane laura. ed lavandera live for us in new orleans. ed? >> reporter: hey, john. those hurricane strength winds up to 85 miles per hour. inside hurricane sally which makes it a category 1 storm. this is the possibility forecasters have been saying over the last day or so to reach

a category 2 level storm so there is still a great deal of concern of just how much this storm is going to intensify as it continues to slowly move toward the gulf coast area of southeast louisiana and mississippi. of course, the slower it moves and the heavier rainfall it brings will raise the concerns and the fear of widespread flooding in the gulf coast region adding that to the danger of the high sustained winds in a hurricane and continues to develop as the warnings and watches go out across the gulf coast. officials encouraging people to stock up on three days of emergency goods to get them through the next couple of days as the storm continues to move toward land and this in a state where less than three weeks ago hit by hurricane laura. in fact, many people who had evacuated the southwest corner of the state evacuated here to

the new orleans area and been in hotels, those people will remain here we're told by city officials that right now the evacuation orders in the new orleans area is those outside of the levee protection system built here in the years of hurricane katrina and what's eerie is that it's following a similar path and targeting the same areas struck by hurricane katrina some 15 years ago. john? >> ed lavandera on the ground for us, stay safe. sally now a category 1. up next, the pandemic's uneven impact on the economy. some americans hurting much more than others. when i was in high school, this was the theater i came to quite often. the support we've had over the last few months has been amazing. it's not just a work environment. everyone here is family.

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live look at the market right now. the dow up nearly 380 points

after suffering through a turbulent last week that ended with a rally on friday. the duh down nearly % on the year and shown resilience in the pandemic and also a saying the market isn't the economy. as we go through this now. phil mattingly is live for us up on capitol hill. technical glitch there, phil. the economy, an uneven perspective, the unemployment rate is hard in this pandemic, small businesses hit hard during this pandemic. but if you listen to the president of the united states, stay with me for a second, the president of the united states looks at wall street saying it's great. >> you think the virus totally supercedes the economy? >> oh sure. but related as you know. >> a little bit. >> a little bit? >> more than a little bit but we are close to a new stock market record. >> you've been doing work throughout this pandemic keeping

in touch with small businesses, especially minority owned small businesses and wall street is not the economy, not to them anyway. >> reporter: no, not at all. there's been a stark divide between larger corporations, those connected in economic fashion and those who aren't, for many decades now but it's xaser ba exacerbated and a stark divide and perhaps no place more so than small business. coming to large businesses, while they didn't necessarily get bailouts in terms of tens of millions of dollars like in 2008 they were the ultimate beneficiaries to low interest rates, to credit markets unlocking almost entirely for them because of the fed to do and the treasury department and the congress were willing to put on the stable. not so much for small businesses. they had ark sesz to the paycheck protection program.

but that's what it was for, to float them, to sustain them to allow them to keep the employees on the payroll for a period of time of maybe up to eight to 12 weeks. we are long since past that and that's why when you talk to the small business owners like richard in colorado they underscore they just need a chance. >> there's a lot of hard work done by folks not asking for handouts, not asking for anybody to solve their problems. what we are looking for is an opportunity to continue to fight to get to where we want to be. >> reporter: they own a beer company and made the point they're unlucky and consider themselves -- pretty low this debt and could hang out there for another couple of months but really the day i spoke to them or the day after that piece ran they texted me and colorado changed again and ratchet back some of reopening. opening and then closing, people

that were afraid to go out altogether and as long as the support isn't there and we have been talking about congress unable to get together on another stimulus package, those small business owners are left out to dry. 21% of small businesses don't believe they can make it 3 to 6 months and you can point to the stock market, point to nasdaq, point to the records that some of those larger companies, are able to do right now, but the people on the ground small business businesses and individuals who don't have access to the stimulus checks of march and april, that money is now sucked out of the economy. they're struggling. >> i would take the voices of people in real america over anybody here in washington any day. appreciate the great reporting. coming up, the president on the way to california as they continue to fight the devastating wildfires. live update just ahead.

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wildfires today continue to scorch and smother the western united states. 35 people dead in california, oregon and washington in what's a horrific fire season. this year, more than 6 million acres burned in the united states, 3.3 million of those in california alone. cnn's stephanie elam joins us

now live from california. stephanie, it is just the pictures are numbing. >> reporter: it's unbelievable when you take into account how much of the state is burning. we are used to wildfires out here but i was speaking to a fire official saying in the nearly 30 years of doing this seen nothing like the extent of the wildfires we are seeing. i'm standing in sierra madre along the foothills here and the fire is burning just on the other side of the ridge. you can see the smoke. it was glowing when it was dark and harder to see now. now that there is more open sky, they have the helicopters out here dropping, they're in the middle of changing the firefighters for the shifts that they work, some firefighters have been working for 50 days i'm told. here comes a helicopter coming back after dropping water on the fire loine and they're taxed because there's not enough

firefighters in the state to cover what they need to and allow them more down time. it is very, very much a situation where they need to use more people but they're not there so if you take that into account and 4,100 structures destroyed and look at the number of acres burned, this is a he horrific year. 300 people evacuated where i am now and this as there's other fires flaring up, for this fire they had to pull people back, pull firefighters back from other fires to fight just to respond to the one in their own home area, john. >> it is remark shl and heroic work. they're trying to pull off. we appreciate the live report very much. up next, why china say there is's no reason to vaccinate everyone against the coronavirus.

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israel today saying it will enter a second coronavirus lockdown beginning friday, that just one global sign of a resur gent pandemic. let's check in with the international correspondents. >> here in china, a rather surprising statement from the head of china's cdc. they have announced that there is no need for mass vaccinations here in the country essentially saying not every single person needs to be vaccinated.

they go after what they consider to be a strategic approach, going to vaccinate once it is effective and ready those front line workers as well as some of those in high risk areas, so who's included in that? individuals who work in schools, in restaurants, in the cleaning services, those who likely come into contact with high volume and high traffic areas and it would also be those who are medical personnel and border patrol agents in particular. this goes with what we have seen with china rolling out some of their emergency use vaccines even while they have not finished phase three trials and those involving people of the liberation army, the military, as well as some of those front line workers already. this is their approach for now. the head of the cdc has said that they could reconsider it essentially as this virus continues to evolve. david culver, cnn, beijing.

>> here in italy it is the first day of school for most of the country, over 8 million students headed back after six months. some concern by teachers for their own health, over 50% of itly's teachers over 50 years old in a more vulnerable category and another concern is not all schools received equipment promised by the government like desks and teachers. a high school in rome says they will try a rotation system where students are on campus for a week and then online learning from home next week, all administrators say they have putt the safety measures in place such as temperature taking, staggered entrance times and keeping kids in the classroom in lunch hour and recess to minimize contact. in the hopes that these measures will help keep the contagion numbers down and provide a safe

and relatively normal school year for students and teachers alike. delia gallagher, cnn, rome. >> here in germany authorities trying to contain a coronavirus outbreak in a bavarian town. officials in the town on the south of germany said they order bars and restaurants to close earlier than usual and limiting the people to sit at a table together and they're calling on younger people in the town to get coronavirus tests. now, an official told cnn that an american citizen came down with flu-like symptoms, got a test and told to quarantine and went on the town and social idesed instead. there's a u.s. military installation in that town that's also closed after several people there came down with the coronavirus. fred pleitgen, cnn, berlin. >> appreciate your sharing time with us today.

stay with us. brianna keilar picks up the coverage right now. have a good day. i'm brianna keilar and welcome viewers here in the united states and around the world. there are three urgent crises engulfing the nation, a pandemic, out of control wild foo wildfires and a hurricane naming aim at the gulf coast. joe biden will speak about the climate crisis as they square off over science. the president himself will be in california in the next hour where the state is being ravaged by deadly wildfires. these fires killed at least 30 people and decimating many western states and hurricane sally one of five storm systems is advancing and the coronavirus of course spreading across college campuses in all 50 states. the new case rate stuck at about