p.m., another chance to see q and a. a look inside the debate venue, hofstra university. on monday, click clinton and donald trump meet their for the first of three presidential hour and 15the next minutes, a preview of the debate. we will look at the debate strategies with two people who have helped pass presidential -- prepare presidential candidates. we will also talk to a former moderator about what it is like to moderate a presidential debate. with the three presidential debates and the one buys presidential debate about to get underway, what to expect from the candidate, hillary clinton, donald trump and running mate. there preview here on c-span, first, let's look at the schedule.

monday's debate will take place at the campus of hofstra university. lester holt will be the moderator. then the vice presidential debate in virginia. debateond presidential is a townhall meeting format the campus of washington university. cnn's anderson cooper and abc's martha british will be the come. the third and final debate between donald trump and hillary clinton on the campus of the university of nevada las vegas and chris wallace on fox news will be the moderator. phone is aon the writer from politico. let's start by talking about donald trump and hillary clinton. what is their approach? >> this is the most critical

moment of the race for both of them. for hillary clinton, she has been preparing in a standard way with a big team around her who has done debate prep for democratic potential candidates going back to the 90's. she has two goals, she is to discredit him and make him look unqualified for the job and she to haveds to get voters a positive reason for voting her. giving voters something to vote for, not just against. trump has been going about debate prep in an unorthodox way. he said he does not want to be locked sessions with a hillary clinton stand in. roger ailes has been advising him that it looks like the rest

of the campaign, he might be winging it. hillary clinton has been pouring over briefing books during this -- doing this the standard way. standard campaign he is doing something else. >> to specific stores you have written about. her pneumonia with hillary clinton and talking point she had to give the campaign staff after first finding out pneumonia and then not disclosing it. does that fit into a narrative that has her toy clinton going into the final stretch of the campaign? >> the fact that she did not disclose it did raise some questions about her transparency which, along with e-mail controversy, this has been to and away at her trust numbers and unfavorable the ratings. damaging because there is a narrative that she is secretive or private and this

idea that she thought she could just power through without revealing it. the question is if it would have been better for her to reveal it in retrospect, obviously yes. donaldculation that trump would have beaten her up if she said it was pneumonia, it did not work out for her. that was probably the thinking of not disclosing it. it also became apparent that she did not tell a lot of the campaign officials. told a small group of people fed into the idea that she's isolated with a small group of aids. all about the question of issues transparent and trustworthy. this debate is a moment for her to counter some of that and give people a reason to believe in her and trust she is the person

best qualified to be president. mr. lamb: -- >> what you think is the overriding question for donald trump that we will care from lester holt? -- hear from lester holt? >> the bar is much lower for him. i think people have lower expectations for how people do here. people know that hillary is experienced. the debates were high points for her. donald trump, if he can get through 90 minutes of being able to answer questions on substance and not attacking her and aboutal ways and talking his hand or other things he did in the primary debate, people will think he did ok. a democrat i was talking to compare him to the dancing bear test. the bear does not have to dance very well but if it dances at all, you think it is impressive.

.hat is what democrats fear there will be a lower bar for him and it will look like you wellell even if -- he did you if it is not a performance equivalent to her peers for leicester hold, the challenges fact checking donald trump in real-time. matt lauer got eviscerated for letting donald trump saying he was against the war in iraq when he was not and letting that statement go unchallenged. there is a lot of pressure on the moderators to hold these candidates accountable in real-time. donald trump will have to contend with explaining himself and not just saying things that are factually untrue and getting away with it. any party who covers politics with politico. her work is online at politico.com. we went to look at some of the moments in this campaign and for hillary clinton in 2008 and

2000, what to expect during the first of three presidential debates. president of his own firm, he is helped george w. bush, john mccain and mitt romney in debate preparation. what goes on behind the scenes that we don't see? >> what you don't see is very careful planning and preparation for these debates. oft think of it as a couple hours spent debating someone in a mock debate because we have seen it and television shows. in reality, it is many hours. i set that is usually built to the specifications of the debate sets themselves. careful planning and thinking through on the part of policy teams, communication teams, exactly how they will frame their arguments and trying to plan out the moments of the debate that they can seize

competitive advantage over their opponent. that is a very big part. debates are about two things, message and moments. they are about carrying a message narrative through the debate that the press can write and having moments that will draw the attention of the paris -- press powerfully. moments of age -- famous moments, there you go again, reagan is a carter. moments that draw attention in the debate positively for your candidate and show competitive advantage over your other candidate. >> just over a year ago, donald trump participated in a cnn andte at the reagan library carly fiorina came up and was one of the republican candidates , here is that moment. ask you about this, in an interview last week in rolling stone, donald trump said the following about you, look at

that face, would anyone vote for that, can you imagine that, the face of our next president. mr. trump said he was talking about your persona, not your appearance. feel free to respond about his persona. >> it is interesting to me, mr. trump said that he heard mr. bush clearly with what mr. bush said. i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. [applause] >> i think she has a beautiful face and is a beautiful woman. >> as you look at that moment, is it likely that something like that could happen between hillary clinton and donald trump? >> i don't know if it will be over her beauty but it may be

over her personality. back in 2008 when she ran against barack obama, her personality came up and barack obama said you were likable enough, hillary. i think that is silly? for hillary clinton -- still a question mark for hillary clinton. she has made her stamina and issue and he seemed to question whether or not she had the appearance to be a president of the united states. if it is about her looks. it would be a mistake for him to bring it up. he needs to stay focused on substance. there are a ton of substantive attacks he can go after hillary clinton on. if he moves it to be intensely personal, that can backfire. debate, theame issue of jeb bush and his wife. mr. trump hassh, suggested that your views on immigration are influenced by your mexican born wife.

he said that if my wife for mexico i would have a soft pot -- spot for people from a scope. >> he did. you are proud of your family just as i am. to subject my wife into the middle of a raucous political conversation was completely inappropriate. meat. you apologize to the . >> she is the love of my life. i want you to apologize to her. wife is a deal, my mexican-american, she is an american buy toys. she loves this country as much as anybody in this room. she wants a secure border and she was to embrace the traditional american values that could make a special and make us unique. we are at a crossroads. are we going to take the reagan approach, the hopeful optimistic approach, the approach that says if you come into our country illegally, he pursue your dreams

with a vengeance and create opportunities for all of us to more the donald trump approach? the approach that says everything is bad and everything is coming to an end. country ase into our all of theove, with problems that we have in some instances, we have wonderful people coming in. with all of the problems, this is not an act of love. he is weak on immigration and in favor of common core which is also a disaster. he does not get my vote. >> he did not apologize. he did not say he made a mistake. that has been part of his persona. >> i thought that was a good moment for donald trump because he was able to move it from the personal, which just wanted to wanted toout, -- jeb make it about, and moved to the issue of immigration. that worked for donald trump and not working for jeb bush.

he needed to pin donald trump down and say you are going to apologize for this debate is not going to proceed. itald trump was able to pick -- pivot the issue. that is what donald trump needs to do. he need to keep the debate on the substantive. substance does include personal things i hillary clinton females and how she handled them. he needs to keep us on the substantive and not the personal. if he can do that, it will be a long night for who acquitted. -- hillary clinton. multiple candidate debate, it will be one on one on monday. how would that approach be different? >> for trump, immediately study issues. he is not sustain a 90 minute debate where he has had to talk policy for 90 minutes. he will have to do that. in the primary debates, possible

candidates, he was able to fade into the background. in this debate, he will have to show he has a command of the issues. i agree that the bar may be lower for him, but it is still there. there is still a part that he has to pass to show he is that he has a bar to pass to show he is competent. for hillary clinton, the bar is different. for her, it is the trustworthiness and also the performative aspect. we have not seen hillary come out and project a vision for where she will take the country, but also be helpful herself. one of the things that made it herself.opeful one of the things that made it hard to run against obama was that he was likable. hillary does not protect that. she has to walk a fine line between aggression and likability and make sure she stays on offense and also does not cross the line. the same thing that donald trump has to do. for her, and is a little more difficult.

women face a tougher test with audiences given gendered communication roles. this is not something that is made up. it is, unfortunately, an unwritten rule and societal communication to their a lot of studies that verify this that's a when men are aggressive, they are viewed positively but when women are overly aggressive, they can be viewed negatively. she has to walk a fine line in how she handles him and also the image she projects. the commander in chief form, she stayed on defense most of the night. for her, this means doing the things that she can do well. she has done them well in prior debates. i think it means upping her game on the performance side. to the liken this bush-gore debates where bush was not a national politician and

had been governor of texas but had not worked with national issues, the bar was low for him in terms of issue preparation and then hillary, who like gore working in national issues come have been a senator, secretary of state, gore was vice president, people expected a lot out of him in those debates and he could never find his voice. a problem that clinton faces as well. she is still searching for that voice. she has not found it yet. >> one of the best steaks -- mistakes is that a different al gore showed up in the first, second and third debate. earlier, you said privacy and one-liners. how do you do that? make it seem natural and not an inauntic -- an authentic thentic. >> it is practiced.

both candidates should be doing five practice. this is like a football game. they do not talk about the plays they run, they practiced the place. the they run the games -- place in games. the same is true for candidates. in order to feel natural, they have to practice over and over again with a stand in their so that you can get a feel for how the exchanges go to go down. trump has thought of some lines in debates, it is obvious that he is extremely good at branding. he has the branding machine down. he has thought of lines. the question is, has he thought of moments. how they will gain a particular moments where he can draw the press attention and sees competitive advantage over her. ripe with issue is that, her handling of the foundation is ripe with that. her issue with libya as

secretary of state. the question is, whether or not they have thought about how to game out those scenarios so they end up working in his advantage. the bush example, it was pretty clear that governor bush had intentionally thought about asking trump to apologize. he had not thought about what would happen if he said no. he did not have a game plan for how that scenario would play out. the same thing is true for trump. yet to think about what happens if clinton responds in different ways. >> the moderators are also practicing with their questions. one of the seminal moments in the republic in primaries, megyn kelly of the fox news channel. >> one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind. however, that is not without its downsides, in particular it

comes to women. you have women who don't like, slobs,kes, dogs, disgusting animals. your twitter account -- >> only rosie o'donnell. [laughter] [cheers] thank you. >> for the record, it was well beyond rosie o'donnell. twitter account has several disparaging a concert you told a contestant on celebrity apprentice that it would be a herty picture to see her on knees. does that sound like the temperament of a man we should elect a president and how would you answer the charge from hillary clinton that you are part of the war on women? >> the big problem this country has is being politically correct. [cheers]

i have been challenged by so many people and i don't have time for total political practice and to be honest, this country does not have time either. this country is in big trouble, we don't win anymore, we lose to china, we lose to mexico for both in trade and the border, we lose to everybody. wrinkly, what i say and often times it is fun and kidding and we have a good time. what i say is what i say. honestly, if you don't like it, i'm sorry. i've been nice to hold the i could probably not be raced on the way you treated me. i would not do that. we need strength, we need energy, we need quickness and we need brains. that i can tell you. [applause] 6 in cleveland,

ohio. the first debate that the base before the convention. let me go back to help donald trump responded. he pivoted to talk about jobs, the country and that he brought it back to donald trump. >> that was the mistake. attacking the moderator is not a good idea. the audience are the people watching at home. keep your attacks focused on the opponent and you want to keep your message focused on your audience, the voters watching the debate. that means the moderators job is tough but the debater's job is particularly cap as well. there are moments when you need to go after the moderator when they have made a terrible mistake. for instance, in the romney-upon the -- obama debate when the

moderator inserted herself wrongly about whether or not president obama had called the incident in benghazi terrorist attack. moderators have to walk a fine line and it is very difficult for them. they have to keep the candidates fact check and ask the question street for the most part, they should be stepping up. the fact checking job should be the job of of the opponent. to say you are wrong about the issue. the debate is between them, not the moderator. the moderator has a tough job and debater need to keep it from becoming personal about the moderators. most of the time, that can come off very poorly. advised president bush, senator mccain, governor romney, as you look back at the time you spent with these past republican candidates and nominees, was very moment in your rehearsals that stands out? >> one-story i always hold

fondly and that is with senator mccain. during the primary debates. relaxedto be much more with the senator in preparing him for debates. we had been going after senator clinton for a year mark -- an earmark that she requested for a woodstock music the moral. that happened to be a payback to a campaign donor of hers. we were sitting in debate prep and you thought about having a funny response, something that would capture the imagination of the press. senator mccain reminded us that he was a prisoner during the time of woodstock. we also, senator, you need to say that. we asked, how would i say that. he thought about it and said, how about this, he said, let's

use outline which is, woodstock was a great cultural experience, i would have loved to have been there but i was all tied up at the moment. that line got a standing elevation from the crowd. it was a great moment. the candidates, in order for them to perform, they can't be programmed by a bunch of advisors. they have to be participants. that was one of those great moments for senator mccain where he was fully immersed in the prep process and came up with this great line that worked. >> another moment from last year. detroit, michigan. >> a policy question for you. let's see an answer. >> don't worry about it. little marco, i will.

>> you have to be better than this. [boos] >> the number one absentee record in the senate. mr. trump, here proposed tax trillion over$10 10 years. >> from detroit, michigan, little marco, line ted cruz, cricket history, monikers to his -- crooked history, monikers to his opponents. hurt jeb bush, low-energy. donald trump has been good upbringing. the little marco was not as effective as lion ted but he has been effective at branding. the question now becomes, can he move beyond the slogans and create moments.

that is the question. in the is higher for him presidential debates and i thought it was a mistake for both marco and drop to get into -- trump to get into this back-and-forth and forth with name-calling. some of the labels stuck and did severe damage because they were not effectively answered. the challenge for secretary clinton is if she can't effectively answer some of the branding that will come her way. of ther the category rules, they don't seek to apply to donald trump. another moment from cleveland, ohio come august of last year. issue of his donations to a number of individuals including hillary clinton and the clinton foundation. >> i will to you that our system is broken. i did too many people, before this, i was a businessman. i give to everybody. when they call idea. when i need something from them,

two years later, i called them and they are there for me. that is a broken system. >> what did you get from hillary clinton and nancy pelosi,? >> i said, toileting, be at my wedding. hillary clinton, be at my wedding. no herot hold her -- money would be used on private jets going all over the world. it was. that foundation and his own foundation eckley to get a lot of questions in monday's debate. the issue and rules not applying, most candidates would shy away from saying that i've given to candidates in the past. >> the roles have not applied -- rules have not applied because he is worth an icon for presenting a feeling that people are frustrated and angry with politics as usual. i worked in the brexit debates,

much the same sentiment was there where people are tired of politics and promises being made in not deliver. i think there is a large segment of voters who are using donald trump to take that out on the clinical system. political system. they are willing to overlook something that a typical politician would be held to. if you want to watch the debates the right way, turn the sound off and watch the body language of the candidates. you brought up 2000 al gore and george w. bush. the moment where al gore literally moved into governor bush'sspace -- and -- space and i became an iconic moment. in 2004, the first debate where governor bush was criticized for laying on the podium.

that was his debate with john kerry. body language and how you say what you say matter significantly. research says that it may be that body as is take as much as 65% of meaning from how you say what you say to not just what you say. that is why said earlier, the clinton has to pay attention to the presentational aspects of these debates as well. she has performed poorly in prior debates where, even in the commander-in-chief forum, if you turn the sound off and watched her, she would not appear very open, likable, someone you like to sit down and have a conversation with. donald trump smiles a lot, very big, he gets television. he understands the presentational aspects of the base. she has to racer games to match that. -- raise her game to match that. >> can a candidate over prepare?

>> a candidate can over prepare in terms of reading the briefing book. it is not an-- essay on his feet. it is not jeopardy. debates are message and moments. you have to be able to sound like it is coming from the heart , not recite and from the head. it is very important that they not just study the briefing books but actually think about how they will present these arguments. and they have to relax. if you over prepare a candidate, you can get them tensed up. you have to find a way to keep a candidate lose. make sure they are relaxed going into the first debate. the first debate will be the most important. the first 30 minutes of the first debate of the most important 30 minutes of all the

debates. >> one more moment. this is from january of this year. south carolina. the issue of new york values. ted cruz going after donald trump. >> most people know exactly what new york values are. [laughter] you are from new york, he might not. the people of south carolina know. workinge many wonderful men and women in the state of new york. but everyone understands that arevalues in new york city socially liberal, pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage, focus around money and the media. i can frame it another way, not a lot of conservatives come out of manhattan. i'm just saying. conservatives actually come

out of manhattan, including wayne f buckley and others. new york is a good place, it has great people. loving people. wonderful people. when the world trade center came down, i saw something that no place on earth could have handled were beautifully, more humanely to new york. story buildings come crashing down, i saw them come down. we saw more death and even the smell of death, no but he understood it. it was with us for months. the smell, the air. we rebuilt downtown manhattan and everybody in the world watched in everybody in the world looked new york and love new yorkers and i have to tell you, that was a very insulting statement that ted may. -- made. >> from this past january, that moment between ted cruz and

donald trump. >> that was probably donald trump's best from the primary. that is the donald trump pc on monday then i think he is in for a good debate. seenis what we have been over the last three weeks. donald trump has been much more disciplined on message or if he is able to be that disciplined in responding that he will have a good night. notice, he did not take that attack to the personal, there was no line ted -- lying ted. there was a very eloquent counterattack about new york and what it means to be a new yorker. attack that they had been having in the press coming into the debate, ted cruz wanted to continue to litigate it and donald trump ended it. >> your own experience working with president bush, what was he like approaching debate. >> concerned with studying

policy books and being briefed on everything will issue an once we got through the first debate, he started to turn his attention more towards the communicated aspects. -- communicative aspects. through much involved in studying and prepared. >> senator mccain? >> he loved talking to the answers in arguments and angst that would happen. he would watch a lot of film. more relaxed. romney?nor mitt >> a businesslike approach to debate prep. he would want things to be very formalized, talk through each strategy. he had a great team in place doing debate prep. political implications, policy applications. data necessary to feed into the

data points. folks on the policy side were experts in for policy and domestic policy. a veteran of republican campaigns, brent mcdonald. the president of his own firm, o'donnell and associates. thank you for your insight. >> thank you. >> we will turn our attention to the clinton. -- hillary clinton. first, from our library. this man has done 12 debates. moderator. he talked about the importance of these debates have in american politics. >> the presidential debates have become the only times during the presidential campaign where the candidates, usually two, sometimes three, are on the same stage at the same time talking about the same things.

they come in october with the election pretty close, maybe a month or only a month or less away. 90% or moreow that of the people have artie made a decision as to who they are going to vote for. for who they are going to vote decision, some of them are leaning and some are not in mostly what they want to do is the issues are on the table and people have decided whether they are in favor of social security lockbox is or whatever. all of those decisions have been made by the voters. what still remains to be seen and understood is if i like this person. ,oes this person come over as forget what the issues are, what if there is a crisis? what if there is another 9/11?

what if there is some major catastrophe or crisis happening, how do you feel about this person? >> you call the book tension city because it is. these candidates have to make people like them is what you are saying. bush, 41.with george h.w. bush. aresaid that the debates ugly. i don't like them. why? feels strongly that it is all show business. was a 3% debate with bill clinton and prospero. .- ross perot he looked at his watch and said yeah, i looked at my watch and they are all over me. it does not have anything to do with issues. i was looking at my

watch because this is born a -- boring me. those kinds of things to the audience, it leaves an impression. it is a link which impression and body language impression rather than open word impression. from george h.w. bush's point of view, it is ridiculous to have so much riding on this debates. >> of the pbs news hour and his book, tension city. part of c-span2's book tv program available on our website. we continue our look into what to expect for the upcoming debates and we are joined with the editor-in-chief of think progress, he is talking about her clinton. -- hillary clinton.

moments in a debates, especially in today's youtube, social media generation, has a significant impact. can you follow up on that? >> this is true in the primary debates which is what i did in 2008. i helped prepare. debateink that the whole itself will be important because they were be tens of millions of people who will watch the whole debate which is not usually the case. what is going to happen is after those tens of millions of people watch, hundreds of millions will be exposed to two or three things that happened over the course of a couple of hours. either a good moment or bad moment someone was caught saying something that was not true. someone was caught in an awkward place where saying something that reinforces an existing narrative. this can have a real impact on the course of the campaign.

the continued -- appeal, her trustworthiness, key issues, you are in new hampshire the weekend before the new hampshire primary in 2008, this debate, courtesy ur, let's look at this. >> new hampshire voters seem to believe that you are the most experienced and most electable in terms of change, they seek senators obama and edwards as the agents of change. this, what to you is can you say to the voters of new hampshire on the stage tonight to see resume and like it but are hesitating on the likability issue? they seem to like barack obama more. >> that hurts my feelings. [laughter] >> i'm sorry, senator. [laughter]

>> i will try to go on. [laughter] he is very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you are likable enough, hillary. [laughter] i think this is one of the most serious decisions that the voters of new hampshire have ever had to make. that the most important question is who is ready to be president on day one. >> where were you when that moment occurred? >> i believe that took place at a college and they had the step set up in one of the classrooms with a tv just watching it. i think it was clear that that was an important moment in the debate. it was a really important moment in the campaign if you will

recall. only a day or two before the voting occurred in new hampshire if hillary had just lost iowa and if she were to lose iowa and new hampshire back to back, probably would be the end. i think it was a moment that helped reconnect her to some of the voters, they be broke down some of the styria -- maybe broke down some of the stereotypes of her not being a real person. it was a human moment and by president obama being a little bit more terse than he had intended to be. it contrasted with how she handled it. that combined with a couple other things in the lead up to the election probably swung things back in hillary's paper. can you remember if she was ready for that type of question?

that is a typek of thing you'd typically prepare for. you really can't. you here like, why are likability numbers low can be comes up again and again. it is not the first time she answered that question. but that whole moment, the way it played out, from my recollection was not a scripted moment. if you try to script a moment like that, it would not come off very well. >> what can we expect in the debate? the issue of credibility and trustworthy will come up in a number of areas and speed how should she handled that. and -- and how should she handled that? -- handle that? >> it is a tough question for you to answer, it is to say, why

do these people feel this way about you. who knows? that if the actual answer. express something genuine, trying to explain you really feel about it as she did there. relatedis running is a question. issues of trust between motivation. the to whygo into you are running and what is motivating you. why you are try to put yourself in this position. that is probably the best you can do. >> i want to share with you one of the debates that took place courtesy of nbc news, the late ,im russert asking the question keep in mind, holy clinton was still first lady at the time. -- hillary clinton was still first lady at the time. i signed it, we can go sit

down together and get the media here and we will make sure that this deal -- i'm happy to abide by anything that we all agree on. that's get it done now. no more wiggle room. >> i do want to respond. i had my that trip was a wonderful performance and you did a very well. i would be happy to when you give it a sign -- >> i wonder signature. everybody wants to see sign something that you said you were for. i am for it. i have not been at it you have been violated. do something important for america. america is looking at new york, show some leadership. this new radio ad from the remote the party is not part of your campaign. >> your active time. -- we are out of time.

out,couple things stand one candidate moving into the space of the other candidate and rickjust how far you think last year went and donald trump might go? >> i don't think he will move over to her podium. this should not work out well for lauzio. this is an example of what happens when you try to force a moment. he had going into this that he was good to force a decision from hillary clinton to sign this pledge about third-party influence in the campaign and he was just going to keep going. i think it backfired on him. donald trump is good to have an issue because he is very aggressive, does not seem to have a lot of self-awareness as far as how he comes off and it seems to revel in this

projecting of extreme module image. i think strength is where he gets some of his appeal. i think the image of him crossing the line and belittling an admired is figure, someone deserving of some respect, it could definitely backfire on him. momentso you make these you rehearse? feelne-liners, make them natural and not rehearsed. the audience -- >> it is important to have a whole range of possibilities. an option that you have. trigger if thehe right moment comes up. you don't know exactly what questions are asked. you may think there will be a large discussion on this topic and that topic does not come up. he need to give the candidate

10-15-20 different options that they are comfortable with and you only use the ones that present themselves. that way it can seem natural. and the candidate at that moment is going to revise and twist and adapt. if they do that, it is natural. if you come in and say, i'm going to say this line and i will say it this way and this is going to be the moment in the debate, i think you're setting yourself up for failure. it is not that predictable. >> last november, the debate that took place in iowa and the issue of wall street and special interest came up, here's the exchange between hillary clinton and senator bernie sanders. i've never heard a candidate who has received huge amounts of money from oil, coal, wall street, the military-industrial complex, these campaign

contributions will not influence me, i'm good to be independent. why do they make noise of dollars of campaign contributions? they expect to get something. i'm running a campaign differently than any other candidate. we are relying on small campaign donors, 750,000 of them, $30 a piece. [applause] to impugn my integrity, -- you know, not only do i have hundreds of thousands of donors, most of them small and i am proud that for the first time, a majority of my donors are women, 60% -- [applause] represented york and i represented new york on 9/11 when we were attacked, where were we attacked? downtown manhattan where wall

street is. i did spend a lot of time and effort helping to rebuild. that was good for new york and good for the economy in a way to rebuke the turks -- terrorists. >> another pivot moment between senator sanders and hillary clinton and have to try to turn on that issue. -- how she tried to turn on the issue. >> the perfect example of the reality that these debates are hard and it is happening in real time and things can start off real -- ok and slip away. you have the answer. i think he was probably right to start -- stop things and get a response. she started off really strong. she had a lot of female donors and people responded. i think she has a reasonable point to say, i represented new york, i'm going to have some backers who are associated with altered. my recommendation would become to let's go ahead and pivot

the substance of what you are proposing to do. i think she ran into trouble when she invoked that. it is difficult because she's reacting in real-time. she probably created a moment that did not help her. i think she will be better prepared for it if it comes up again. you advised hillary clinton in 2008. approach, how did she study, how did you prepare? in 2008, i will start there. i'm more capable. there are two sides of it, the staff side and the candidates side. a lot of preparation of the staff of trying to do the best you can and anticipate what is going to happen. i think that will be difficult with donald trump. he is pretty much off the seat of his pants and is not afraid

to improvise. that makes preparation difficult. especially attacks. attack yout he will on here are some responses that have worked for you in the past. here are some information. that goes to the candidate and then you go to the sessions where you do these mock debates. debate, there might be more than one debate. maybe for the smaller debates, just one. i imagine they will be trying to anticipate and have some open the role of donald trump and get her into life situations so you can go through as many of the situations as you can in order to spot problems. this went wrong, here's what happened. from the outside looking in, how much more difficult is it for her prepared for donald

trump is is another more traditional candidate, if you were debating mitt romney or barack obama? >> it is immensely challenging. she's had a lot of experience in debate. in 25 and 2008, she did a number of, more than 10 this year. they have all been pre-substantive. obama and edwards, the other major candidate, pretty wonky. sanders wanted to stay on issues and not get sidetracked. is intending trump to have a detailed policy debate. i don't think he is capable of it and i think he knows that is a losing strategy. he is a very experienced television personality. he knows how to make television happen and make a compelling. -- it compelling. have that book with all

the different policy positions and have all of the responses, i don't know if that will help you have a good debate against donald trump because i don't think you will bring to that stuff up. -- much of that stuff up. >> this from october, the issue of views. >> plenty of politicians you called on issues even some democrats believe you'd change your positions based on political expediency. you defended president obama's migration and now you are saying it is too hard. supported his trade deal and called it the gold standard and now you are against it. what you say anything to get elected --will you say anything to get elected? >> i've always spot for the same fires and principles but like most human beings, those of us who run for office, i do absorb new information and look at what is happening in the world. take big trade deals, i didn't say when i was secretary of

state three years ago that i hoped it would be the good standard. it was just finally negotiated last week. looking at it, it did not meet my standard. my standard for more new good jobs americans, raising wages for americans and i want to make sure that i can look into the eyes of any middle-class american and say, this will help raise your wages and i concluded, i cannot. respect, the question is about clinical expediency. a told the crowd you take backseat to know them when it comes to progressive dies. in a how, you said you plead guilty to being moderate and centered, the change --do you change your identity based on who you're talking to? >> i have a range of views and they are rooted in my values and my expense. i don't take a backseat to anyone when it comes to progressive experience and progressive commitment. when i left law school, my first

job was with the children's defense fund. for all to your sense, i have been focused on how we're going to unstuck that debt and make it possible for more children to have the greatest i had to be able to come from the grandfather of a factory worker and now asking the people of america to elect me president. >> are you a progressive or moderate? >> i'm a progressive but i'm a progressive who like to get things done. common groundfind and stand my ground. i proved that in every position i have had. even dealing with republicans who never had a good word to say about me. we found ways to work together reforminging from health care and the doctors program. i have a long history of getting things done. cusa, -- cooper, one

of the moderators. we pulled the exchange because clearly, she was ready for that question. >> it is a prototypical thing is something you can prepare for. the idea that you have flip-flopped or change your position on some issue and why. probably was not anticipating the basket of things altogether that anderson cooper presented, but you deftly have to be prepared individually -- definitely have to be prepared individually on those issues. she knew her history of the. she had an explanation. i think, i don't know, i was not involved this year, but i think at the end, you sort of have a inent where she is prepared because she prepared, she can being ae her answer on progressive who wants to get things done. that was an effective counter to the premise of anderson's question which is that you are telling people different things.

that was an example of the value of preparation and how it can you to take on a difficult question. you have the facts and some idea of where you want to go. >> what advice would you tell her? >> i think there is a real danger in getting dragged into the kind of debate that donald trump is to have. i think he -- once to have -- wants to have. i think you will want to to be a circus rather than a debate. it will be difficult to get to her strengths which is going into detail of talking about things being -- what to do for health care or education. she has so much to sacred i think donald trump will make it difficult to get there. she will not want him to just say whatever, make all sorts of accusations about her. i think you have to pick your

spots on that to rebut the things he says and speak your spots -- pick your spots to deliver your message. make sure that she can show people what she can bring to the table and not just always be attacking or countering. >> are you apprehensive or confident in how she will do? >> i think it is a very big challenge. i think donald trump is prepared for this moment. not that he has done a lot of debate preparation or that he knows a lot about issues but he knows how to move a big tv audience and create something they will talk about. i think this present a huge challenge for hillary. i don't think she has faced anything like it. i would have to say, i would be a little apprehensive. i think itlf, -- will be interesting to see how it plays out. she will be thinking a lot about it. director and a bit

to hillary clinton and her 2008 presidential bid, currently the editor-in-chief of think progress. thank you. >> think it. -- thank you. >> five moderators for the primary, we will talk to one of the moderators of one of the debates with her question to hillary clinton. >> you have no donald trump a long time. you have seen what kind of campaign he is running. secretary quentin, is donald trump a racist -- clinton, is donald trump a racist? to follow my friend, senator sanders, model, if i'm fortunate to be the democratic nominee, there be a lot of time to talk about him. i was the first one to call him out. i called him out when he was calling mexicans