when theyk about, take us over and never fire a shot, i'm counting right now. my history teacher told me in -- oure said, they will government is getting ready to full. you may live long enough. they will waste the constitution and take socialism. it's get the fire out of me. host: we were losing you in little bit because of the connection, but i think we got the essence of what you were saying. thank you for your calls and your comments. you can continue the conversation on our facebook u.s. considering the possibility of cyber attacks against russia. two other points. this is from elizabeth saying the media is not telling the american people what is really behind the russian nonsense. finally this from richard, trump

, the original birther, what more do you need to know about him? more comments on twitter. when we come back, we will turn our attention to the house and senate. nathan gonzales is going to be joining us, he is the editor of the " rothenberg and gonzales olitical report." we will be talking about the impact of the down ballot races. terry o'neill is joining us later. following "washington journal," newsmakers. jessicakend's guess is o'connell. the executive director of "emily's list." we talk to her about a pro-choice group spending in this campaign and the role women are playing. here is a portion. [video clip] >> you are for pro-choice female candidates. in 2010, your group spent $24.7 million. in 2012, 30 $4 million. in 2014, 40 $5 million.

what will be the number this time? >> a big one. us will be the biggest psycho for women in our lifetime. we are spending at very high levels. we have an opportunity to elect historic numbers of women senators this year. the chances for democrats to win back the senate this year. >> republicans have a four-seat majority in their democratic women running in seven competitive senate races. it could be women who are the key to take back the upper chamber. >> women are going to be the key to take it back. they are going to be the key because they are going to decide the election this year. we have a tremendous opportunity in new hampshire, pennsylvania,

nevada. could be latina elected to the united states senate. we have north carolina. things are really changing on the ground there. we were with them from day one there. i believe deborah is going to win north carolina. be sure to tune into "newsmakers." i've just this week is the executive director of emily's list. it helps female candidates. jessica o'connell on "newsmakers." date and gonzales, the editor and publisher of "rothenberg and gonzales political report." guest: good morning. thanks for having me. always a pleasure. host: let's begin with news on speaker paul ryan.

where is his head right now two weeks before the election? guest: i think it is about survival, they are trying to navigate this. we have to go all the way back to republicans in the middle of the civil war. trump has captured that sentiment with a portion of the republican party who is upset with the establishment. people like speaker ryan and the rest of the republican leadership are in a tough space because the criticism of them has been that they are not listening to the grassroots. will listen say, we to the grassroots and the grassroots nominates donald 's comments after this tape was released, the conference call, i'm not sure exactly how much news, speaker ryan was always focused on the house. it is a day by day, hour-by-hour

case of survival. just one republicans thought they had the selection figured out, then the tape came out, then there is the second debate. it is a never-ending battle. host: last week, you said it would take you about it week to figaro the house and senate is going. where are you thinking? in thewhat we saw polling last week was that there is not a uniform drop among republicans. was not a widespread, "here comes the wave." the senate is still very much in play. we did not throw races all the way from tossup to lean democratic. races areaces, some moving better to democrat. i did not see anything that shows democrats are gaining the 30 that they need. this week, what we are waiting for is are those ads on the house side, the new ads with donald trump, are those going to make an impact?

let those get into the voters' psyche. this week, we will start to see whether those are having and resonating where democrats believe they will. wet: going into the cycle, were talking a lot about florida, pennsylvania, ohio, new hampshire. missouri was one of those races you were focusing on, but it seems to have become one of those races that could determine whether the republicans can control the senate. senator blanche is running -- for reelection. this is one of the ads by the senate republican leadership going after the missouri democrat. [video clip] a fresh face,ke but what is underneath it. he is the same as nancy on imposing a national energy crafts -- task. he supports amnesty and allowing taxpayer benefits for illegal immigrants. he was even one of hillary clinton's national cochairs.

fresh facen kander's is a lot of the same old liberal thinking. host: what is happening in missouri? guest: it is amazing that the map has changed the way it has. if you would have told me that florida and ohio looked safer than roy blunt, i would have said you were crazy. i think you see a case where senator blunt has been in office for close to 30 years, he has a family, he has different family members that are lobbyists. those are not popular things right now. democrats have jumped on it, they have been able to make it an issue. there was some dissension in the republican ranks about how quickly or how soon republicans in his campaign should have gone .fter jason kander jason kander is now in a prime position.

ads like that are what democrats have to do. the question is, does it work? it is a typical republican tactic. what democrats are using against senator blunt are very specific. it is creating a big problem for blunt. host: a lot of focus on nevada because the final debate will be taking place there. senator reid is retiring. catherine cortez is the democratic candidate. here is an added against democratic candidate. we want to share that with you in a moment, that spot. guest: the narrative on nevada got out ahead of itself. most people did not give republicans much of a chance in nevada. maybe they were not taking into account how the economy, the downturn of the economy.

this is republicans' only takeover opportunity and that is critical to help balance out some of the losses they could experience. joe heck is in prime position to win. he has been narrowly ahead. there is different information about whether he is ahead now. democrats released a poll that had him behind for the first time in months. part to losinge some republican support. he was one of the people who denounced support for donald trump after the "access hollywood" tape came out. they pull -- as long as he can keep that way, if you should be able to win. [video clip] masto talks cortez

about fighting sex trafficking, but the first person she indicted ended up with a plea deal for a lesser charge, is back on the street, and not registered as a sex offender, even though he forced a 16-year-old girl into prostitution. catherine cortez masco, failing nevada again. senate leadership fund is responsible for the content of this advertising. host: as you look at these ads, is whetherstorylines or not ads are making a difference. on the state level, how much influence are they having this year? guest: i think at the state and particularly in senate and house races, they have an opportunity to make an impact. you still have an opportunity to drive the discussion. the presidential race has become its own oddity. to have one candidate with hillary clinton outspending donald trump the way that she is

is something we have not seen. but donald trump has the advantage of whenever he is anywhere, he has a camera in front of him. i still believe that television ads work. i think there is a point of diminishing returns in some of these senate races. the ones that have tens of millions of dollars in spending, does an extra million help? i'm doubtful. but you want to be the one driving the discussion, driving the debate, and you want to try to get your opponent on the defensive. missouri is a good example of where democrats have been able to leverage television ads. jason kander, one of the ads that he ran, putting together an ar-15 blindfolded, cotton national attention and helped keep senator blunt on the defensive. turn toght now, let's the house, there are 182 safe seats. seven seats in play.

play inlican seats in the senate. win backemocrats, to control of the house, they need to run the table. guest: they need to win all the competitive seats. they need 218 for a majority. that is part of the challenge and why i think it is still difficult for democrats to get there. i think they could win the majority of the competitive seats, maybe even most of them, but to run the table is a difficult task. host: and the senate? guest: the senate is firmly in play. i think the democrats with a net gain of four seats, that is --luding that president hillary clinton wins the presidency and senator tim kaine is the tiebreaker. i still think it is right there. is the most likely range. of the 6 most competitive senate

races, they are right on the line with two or three points either way that could swing them. the abce latest from news/"washington post" poll giving hillary clinton a -point lead.- a four many would have thought it would be a bigger lead after donald trump's week. guest: i think that is great news for republicans. as long as donald trump stays competitive, that gives these republicans down the ballot a chance. 4%hink gary johnson was at and jill stein was at 2%. i felix that is closer to where they are going to be rather than 12% in some%, 10%, polls. if this is the new normal for republicans, i think they should consider themselves very lucky. primetimead two

interviews with gary johnson and jill stein this past week. one hour with each of these third-party candidates. check it out. from yuma, arizona on the republican line. good morning. caller: one thing i would like to say and most people are not picking up on this. mr. trump has been ran through the dirt. congressman that does not support the president for the republican party is going to be voted out of office. we are tired of this. you are to support your candidate whether you like them or not. these senators run around like mr. mccain, they want his ,ndorsement, something happens most of this stuff, people are educated enough and smart enough to know that it is hogwash. mrs. clinton, god bless her, my

opinion, she has committed a very bad crime against our country. these foreign nations. -- he beatas been the other republican candidates. our senators and congressmen should support him because if they don't we are going to vote them out of office. thank you for taking my call. host: we will get a response from nathan gonzales. point thatry good republicans are having to deal with. republicans have no margin for error. in most states if the republican nominee gets all the republican support that will get them to about 35 percent, maybe 40%. they need some independence to vote with them. there is a drop-off among

republicans because they agree with flash. they agree with you that these republicans are not being loyal enough. someone like senator mccain needs to get more independents or get some democrats to come on board with him. if republican senators are going to lose republican support because they are not on board with trump enough it will make elections very difficult. a senate controlled by democrats and a president hillary clinton, i'm not sure he would be happy with that either. this is what the washington post survey looks like. 47%. donald trump at 43%. gary johnson 5%. .r. jill stein 2% the story is how support has hardened for both trump and clinton. it appears there is very little

wiggle room for undecided or wavering voters this late in the game. guest: if you are an undecided voter right now, i don't understand what the mindset is. maybe you don't like either of them and you are still wavering on what to do. the contrast is stark. i think it's good news for republicans if trump's support is consolidating around him. that is what brought the race back to competitive. reason the race started to narrow is because donald trump was able to get more republicans and convince them to come back into the tent. after that first debate that consolidation halted. after the tape that is when republicans said, this is too much for me. he needs to regain that unification with the republican party. host: jerry is joining us from north carolina.

good morning. caller: i would like to know what you're just thinks about what effect this hb two thing is going to have on our governor and senate race. debate the other night with cooper and mccoy. democrat but he out beat him bad. thehat last topic about packing -- today our satellite is finally leaving pluto send it back pictures. and we are landing on mars today. out beat russia pretty good in cyber attacks. thank you. host: we covered both the governor's debate and the senate

debate. check out the schedule on our website and tune in. hb2 when it first attentionot a lot of in north carolina and national attention. a lot of people assume that governor mccrory was going to lose because of it. initially it was not the political impact that many people expected. as some businesses started to pull out of north carolina, some major events, college basketball, nba all-star game. that started to have an effect on governor mccrory's job approval rating. poll thatst recent came out late last week, roy cooper is up by a point or two. it's not a done deal. cooper has the advantage. we just changed our rating from

p or tossup to tossup. it has been part of the polarization of north carolina that we have seen developing over the last few years. host: a race with a sitting senator and a sitting governor. new hampshire. where do you have that race at the moment? guest: we saw that as a tossup. kelly ion and maggie hassan. expect it to be very tight. kelly and stumbled in one of their debates. she was questioned about whether donald trump was a role model. she agreed. most people expected her support to dip. she was starting to gain a little bit of ground up until the tape came out and the second presidential debate. now we are waiting to see what is the normal normal.

i expect that to be close as well. democratic ad on that very point. maggie hassan in the granite state. one day after she backed out of supporting donald trump. >> doing her best to distance herself from donald trump. for months she said she supported donald trump. just days ago she said she would consider trump a role model for her children. now forid it take until her to say this is the last she sees the tide shifting.

host: nuts from the maggie hassan campaign. it has been a pretty typical approach by the democrats to tie the republican nominee to donald trump. has it been effective? guest: that's what we are going to find out over the next few days. even though a lot of the rhetoric coming from democrats had a lot to do with donald trump in terms of their free debates there was not a lot about donald trump. my colleague at rollcall wrote about the lack of trump's messaging in democratic ads for most of the cycle. now that things have really snowballed, more allegations, democrats feel like there is blood in the water. we are seeing more ads like this in the final stretch. ist of the waiting period seeing are those resonating and off to sway these races?

mark burnett who is a friend of donald trump has some even more damaging video from his years on the a print this but that cannot be released. you wonder if somehow it will be leaked by somebody before election day. you have to assume there is something else. whetherk and forth three weeks until election day is a short window of time or a long period of time. i feel like three weeks it is a long time for more things like this to come out. but is it going to matter. if the post-abc poll is correct the race has settled into what it was before. i'm not sure if it's going to have an impact. host: on the democratic side, more wikileaks and the revelation last week, a public

versus private view by hillary clinton. she was asked about it in the debate and made reference to abraham lincoln. guest: there are a lot of moving parts. us inn ethical standpoint the media will have to decide what we are or are not going to report on in terms of how the information was obtained. in terms of the content of the e-mails, if you are a republican and you are not voting for hillary clinton, you read into those comments and it just adds fuel to your fire against hillary clinton. if you have already been defending her you dismiss them and talk about how they were illegally obtained. --has fallen to legally politically into another partisan issue. host: on the line for democrats with nation -- nathan gonzales who is the editor of the rustenburg -- rothenberg and gonzales political report. caller: good morning.

actually i am kind of a political junkie and i have been following the house and the senate. i think if we vote republican we are going to get more of the same simply because we have had more of the same. they have 60 votes in the senate when it is supposed to be a simple majority. have stopped legislation there. legislation that they passed like the immigration reform bill made it to the house, but the leader holds it up because he's afraid it's going to pass. havenk they didn't legislation for the road and fixing our infrastructure because that would have given obama a win as they say. host: we will get a response. thank you. guest: you are talking about republicans -- voting for

republicans being the status quo. right now republicans are trying to transition their message to being, don't give secretary clinton a blank check because the presidential race is being almost unwinnable for trump. hillaryo make sure clinton doesn't also have a democratic majority in the house and the senate. obstruction, i kind of come back to we have to remember that many of these republicans, hundreds of republicans represent republican districts. their most important race is their primary and those primary voters do want to obstruct president obama. it's not just members of congress. they are representing a certain segment of the population that wants them to do exactly what they are doing.

.ost: nathan gonzales i want to ask you about your view on this. is time for newspapers to stop endorsing candidates. what is your message? i'm just not convinced that newspaper endorsements make all that much of a difference. maybe it legitimizes some local candidates. i'm not convinced that there is a group of voters who are sitting around undecided saying, i can't wait until my local or national paper endorses so that can tell me how to vote. i'm just not convinced. i'm not sure that it helps in terms of -- people believe that the media is biased. when a newspaper endorses a candidate i think it feeds that

perception of bias. know that at newspapers there is a difference between the editorial board and the reporters. i'm not sure the average person even knows that exists or believes that exists. that thethe perception media is biased with the paper is endorsing candidates. int: let's go to carolyn apex, north carolina. caller: does this not tell you something about clinton and this administration about her war chest and everybody's pouring money into it because they are afraid of trump that he would try to clean this mess up. outsider and the status quo is afraid. host: thanks for the call. from the new york times. he has a $150 million warchest. twice the size of donald trump.

i think you are right that people are giving money to hillary clinton because they are afraid donald trump is going to be president. if he was running a typical campaign he would be raising an incredible amount of money as well. he has no interest in asking people for money. it's good from a messaging standpoint where he can stand on a stage and say i am not bought and paid for. but he is expect -- accepting some donations and contributions and reimbursing himself. money is part of our politics. not only are the donations being driven by who you don't want to be president but also some of those votes. host: from arlington, texas. bob on the independent line. caller: good morning. my reason for voting against hillary is going to be a little bit different.

it's because bill and her would not give rhineland in the presidential medal of freedom when they had the chance to. i did a campaign to write letters. finally george bush did it. we have a different problem in arlington, texas. the folks in power are trying to give half a billion dollars to the texas rangers to build a new stadium. that is just so ludicrous i can't believe it. they have already given them $50 million. now they are trying to give them $500 million. the taxpayers have to approve it and they have taken on a campaign to build this stadium. the rangers have given all the money. we get six brochures every day. host: thanks for the call. i remember when you called in the program during the clinton administration. i feel like that stadium

is pretty new. i don't know why they need a new stadium. host: another caller from west virginia. you are next. democrats line. morning. caller: good morning. i want to say it deems like everybody is making big emphasis on who is going to be president. let me tell you the facts. for the last eight years the republicans filibustered president obama 278 times. now they have 56 people in the senate but the democrats can veto everything -- filibuster everything they do when donald trump thinks democrats are going to work with him, they will do the same thing mitch mcconnell did. they will filibuster him.

somed it to democrats 270 times. the president is not going to make a difference. it's the senate. if you can't get 60 majority in the senate it's useless because it doesn't matter what you have in the house. senate can filibuster anything that comes through unless it's money appropriated for the program and republicans want to stick some extra stuff in there all the time but the democrats can go with. what do you think trump is going to do? he said he's going to shake up everything. it's all bluster and talk. there's nothing there. host: thank you, from west virginia. >> i think trump has overestimated the powers of the president. ando talk about control majority and those are important. 60 votes is critical and it is

tough to see either party getting to 60 anytime soon unless republicans somehow have a better year than expected this year and gained significant seats in 2018 when the republicans will have a good map in the sense of there's a lot of opportunities. another color touched on this. the importance of having a democratic congress. republicans message about a check and balance resonates with people because hillary clinton is unpopular. there are plenty of americans who don't trust her. the idea of having someone putting a check on her has the potential to resonate. host: we covered the debate between rough i gold in wisconsin and the democratic candidate is ahead in that race. guest: wisconsin has been

ignored race for quite a while because of senator feingold had in advantage. what has been interesting over this week that there have been multiple polls with russ feingold up by two points. wisconsin is a polarizing state area everyone expected the race to close. two points is not a lot. when those polls came out even among republicans it was kind of met with a shrug. good for ron johnson instead of seeing a flood of support. i think senator johnson still has to convince some people in his own party that this is a winnable race and can help republicans retain control. host: where senator john mccain? guest: he has an advantage. it is sort of on the outskirts of the competitive race.

is one race democrats are focused on to see if they can expand the map. trump has struggled in arizona in the polling against secretary clinton. isn't going to broaden if trumps numbers fall. arizona is the one race. iowa, those still seem to be off the map. arizona could come into the close competitive races. host: jim in ohio. good morning. republican line. caller: i killed him. our next caller is in santa rosa, california. caller: i had a question about a hypothetical if the republicans managed to only hold on to the house and not the senate. i was wondering about the

constraints of that group of politicians that would be holding onto seats that are heavily gerrymandered and rely on those advantages blocked in seats. what would happen to the constraints that usually guide -- the constraints that help them find their way through certain issues and debates and whatnot. really they are just holding on to these seats by means of advantage they got back in 2010. with this lead to an atrophy of their unified leave those? i think house republicans , it sounds like republicans retain control of the houses with a small majority. ryan is going to

continue to have an incredibly difficult job. let's say republicans lose 15 seats in the house. those are likely to come from more moderate or establishment type republicans some of whom are retirees. that will increase the proportional influence of the house freedom caucus. the most conservative members of the house gop conference. concerned --as they are concerned about regular order. they are concerned about having ap or conservative ideology. one of the major points of tension in the republican party is those members with those priorities. other republicans who want to hold and keep the majority. they are making decisions based on entirely different calculations about how to get more minority voters.

those things conflict and that's where we will see more of a struggle in the republican party. he can get more details on the rotenberg gonzales online. arizona joining us from . republican line. good morning. caller: i had a question. have you guys done any segment on the wikileaks? host: absolutely yes. we did a couple of this past week and we also asked questions about them. caller: i guess i didn't catch it. host: we did it this morning when we were talking about the possibility of u.s. response to russia for allegedly hacking into the hillary clinton is. caller: ok. i haven't caught it then. it has been kind of a blanket coverage for hillary on wikileaks with most of the news

media and i wonder if she would if they good standing were covering that more diligently. host: we will get a response. i think it comes back to an ethical problem the media has. depending on how deep you want to go into the story you have to make an editorial decision about what you're going to cover based on information that was illegally obtained. if republicans think there won't be a time in the future when it's the rnc or the republican candidates that are being attacked in the cyber sort of way i think they are being naive. it's easy to criticize and say there isn't enough coverage. think if the shoe was on the other foot and that is going to

be coming sometime in the future. host: could a president from work with a speaker paul ryan based on what has happened in this campaign? guest: it's tough to see how that -- it will depend on what donald trump wants to do as president. what would he put forward. he has talked about repealing the affordable care act. that is something that could get support in the republican conference. beyond that the relationship is so toxic. when speaker ryan said he wasn't going to campaign, he didn't even say he wasn't going to support. trump went off on twitter. weak and ineffective was the tweet. what's amazing about trump is he has so few allies on the hill. fit them all around a dinner table for probably five. in terms of getting legislation

through congress you are going to need more support than that. host: stephen from prospect, kentucky. democrat line. good morning. i wanted to start out by -- i'm glad you hit on that wikileaks story. julian assange is a rapist. he's a cyber terrorist. he's an espionage agent. he's a pedophile. problem with this man because about a month ago he leaked the names of innocent rape victims and homosexuals to the saudi government. people see him as a savior. he is not a savior. he is a zero. i'm supporting clinton 1000% and let me tell you why. you just covered it about trump

possibly conspiring with russia to influence our democratic elections. that's number one. mr. trump wants to criticize and announce terry now -- the secretary now but on several occasions he praised her. when president clinton's philandering became public he praised her. 2007 he praised her on cnn talking about how she would be a brilliant states woman and that she would be a democratic nominee in 2008. 2008 he wondered why obama did not pick her as a running mate. he gets on ands says she is a good likable friendly person. he also perceives to say that she was not only a wonderful states woman but she gave first-class leadership in new york when she was senator.

he was also her political benefactor in 2000 and 2006. host: i'm going to stop you because we are short on time. thanks for the call from kentucky. guest: if hypocrisy was donald trumps kick -- kryptonite he would not have gotten this far in the election. from all of the things you have laid out to different stances on the issues, donald trump has a hard time defending. i don't even think he does. this election is that you have a politician against a non-politician. donald trump has plenty of baggage that he doesn't admit to but he is still not a politician. nota group of americans being a politician trumps everything else. they don't believe hillary clinton because she is a politician. they think she is part of the status quo. that's where we are. young ingressman todd

indiana challenging a former senator. revelations that he made a lot of money on wall street on a number of board of directors, here's one of the ads put together by the senate democratic pack against the republican candidate. >> more than 1000 jobs headed south of the border. workers needed a congressman on their side. todd young took contributions from the company and its executives even after the announced in. tax breaks protect for companies shipping jobs overseas. congressman young is just not for us. senate majority pack is responsible for the content of this advertising. they get these pictures of these candidates and could they make them look worse in these negative and?

guest: todd young was in the drivers seat. he started the new general election race with a 15 to 20 point lead. pinpoint to being a being down by six or seven in democratic and him public polling. this ad is a way that democrats are trying to stop the momentum that he had. democrats have been on the defensive because of a lot of the things he has talked about. he has worked for lobbying firms since he left office. i think this is a tossup race. percentage points that republicans have to gain might be the toughest. pennsylvania. the democratic candidate. what's happening in the keystone

state? guest: one of the top senate races. he is running one of the best campaigns in the country. he's having a hard time as trumps numbers fluctuate in the state. it seems like that to me is susceptible to some of that fluctuation. this is a top race. nathan gonzales. three weeks to go. we will be checking in with you. thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. when we come back, terry o'neill will be joining us. the head of the national organization for women to talk this women votes and national campaign with hillary clinton and donald trump. later newt gingrich will be here to discuss the campaign. are c-span cities tour continues. we take you to the whiskey capital of the world. pay aurea, illinois.

is often viewed as a place where you can gauge americans views on marketing and strategy. feature the town. here's a preview. >> those who know the history of pr area will remember several things. iserpillar tractor company the big 20th-century employer here. prior to prohibition most people know that this was the whiskey capital of the world. details not know the but they know that whiskey was king in the 1800s and early 1900s. the heyday was essentially 1880's to 1920. the distilleries lined the illinois river from where the post office is just south of downtown all the way to this suburb called burtonsville.

there were 73 distilleries and nine breweries. not all at the same time. our city tour continues in pay aurea illinois this weekend. you can check them all out at c-span.org. whiskey capital of the world. you are watching and listening to washington journal on sunday morning. we will take a short break. terry o'neill will be joining us and later newt gingrich on this sunday morning. >> monday night on the communicators. traffic can become much safer and much more efficient. we are talking with director at the university of michigan mobility transformation center. and senior -- senior program manager at the ann arbor

connected vehicle test environment about connected cars and how they can help keep us safe. because it is transmitting over the air and it transmits a minimum of 300 meters i can hear a car for five vehicles ahead. i will get a nice warning that i need to look out and potentially break. >> we're not communicating with a tower. we directly talk to everyone. short range. about 1000 feet radius. everybody with his this range will hear a immediately. there is no delay. delay is very fatal. >> watch the communicators monday night on c-span2. washington journal continues. host: terry o'neill is the

president of now, the national organization for women. what role are you playing in this election? guest: the national organization for women does have a political action committee and we have endorsed hillary clinton. we have over 200 chapters and state organizations around the are workingof which very hard to elect not only hillary clinton president of the united states but also to get her a senate that she can work with and house of representatives. host: with all of the news involving donald trump, there is a peace in the washington post. i want to read the last paragraph. says, if there is any silver lining to this dreadful election it is to expose the persistence of such distorted thinking. that suchoys and men behavior is unacceptable no matter how powerful their position. and most of all to embolden

girls and women to speak up, not submit when they feel that hand inching towards its target. guest: amen. i couldn't put it more beautifully than that. i think this is a teachable thatt in a crazy campaign has seemed to go all over the place. things to me this campaign is actually coming down to his basic values. basic values of stability, upholding democracy, having a full and fair conversation and debate about where we want our country to go. marcus isat what ruth talking about is exactly the conversation we should be having. that young men and boys need to be supported and most of them think that what donald trump bragged about doing is disgusting and we need to support young men and boys in that view.

and not except the toxic masculinity that donald trump seems to try to project. to empowerfor women women to come forward and to say, not only is that not acceptable but we as a society are going to hold this kind of behavior accountable. host: should we hold former president bill clinton in that same category? president clinton has a knology and apologized for his behavior many years ago. right now hillary clinton is running for president. if you look at her actions in the years that she has been a public servant, she has consistently and courageously and effectively fought to empower women and girls and to make a better life for children and families. i think to equate them is actually not correct.

i think if you are talking about values you look at the values that hillary clinton stands for and they just couldn't be more different than the values donald trump constantly talks about. host: from the washington post earlier this year, monica he wrote in 2014 that she found hillary clinton's impulse to blame the women troubling and ,ccused juanita broderick thanks hillary clinton was too passive. she could have done something about his behavior, she said. i had a dear friend when my own merit was on the rocks who confidently told me that it's really always the woman's responsibility to keep that marriage together. i understand the impulse to believe those things. i don't. i wrote a piece quite some time ago. stop second-guessing hillary about her marriage. here's why.

first of all we almost never second-guess male politicians about their marriage and the decisions they make within their marriage is. secondly because that's true women on the sidelines who are trying to does it whether they should become politically engaged will be taking strong lessons from how we treat a hillary clinton in public life. , who say to all the women are only allowed to have a seat at the table and have a voice in your community if we think that everything about your private life has been absolutely perfect, you will not see women stepping up. right now we only have 20% of the congress are women. that is not nearly enough. in holding wives accountable for things we don't hold husband's accountable for is a really damaging way to keep women out of political engagement. what is this election

about in your mind? guest: i think this election is about the economy. it is about whether we are going to move forward to raise the moveum wage, finally forward on closing the gender and race wage gap. we take some concrete steps that will begin bringing down the huge disparities in wealth that we are seeing in this country that have actually been snowballing along for the past 30 years. if there is a divided ends of can both pennsylvania avenue work on these issues? guest: that will depend on members of congress giving up what they have done for the past eight years. mitch mcconnell said when barack obama was elected, he said his entire goal was not to make things better for americans.

not to create constructive legislation that people could get behind. to stop this african-american president from having any kind of success. that was his entire goal. members of congress need to give that up. they need to grow up and start behaving the way elected officials are supposed to behave. you don't get everything you want this year. next year you fight again for the things you want. to moveeantime you try forward and you understand that the other side is going to be negotiating with you. you move forward in a collaborative way notwithstanding these disagreements we have. what we have seen in the past eight years quite frankly has been shameful. valuesegation of the that we actually hold in a democracy. i think it needs to change. i don't have any real hope for any real confidence that people who are currently in congress will actually be interested in

changing. i hope that we can sense not only will we get our first woman president but also we will center a senate and how she can work with. our guest worked for the hillary clinton campaign and barack obama. a graduate of northwestern university. terry o'neill, the president of now. the national organization for women. when was it found? guest: 1966. we just celebrated our anniversary. caller: mike from huntsville, alabama. supporter of hillary clinton. caller: good morning. considering black women are one andour largest voting blocs my sisters are planning to vote against trump. they hate trump and all that he stands for. and also the asian women population is growing. what is the national organization of women doing to

shore up that both? we have over 200 chapters in communities across the country. i'm really proud of my organization. we actually took a fresh look at our statement of purpose. we changed the purpose. it now calls for intersectional grassroots organizing. what that means is looking to the most vulnerable women on any issue that we are talking about and putting marginalized women at the center of our analysis and advocacy. a are currently rolling out national action campaign to stop the sex abuse to prison pipeline which is what you see for girls butss the racial spectrum disproportionately girls of color in high schools who are getting sucked into a prison pipeline because the schools are

not adequately addressing their issues when they have experienced sexual assault. those are the kinds of things we are doing by way of outreach. host: you can follow our guest on twitter at terry o'neill. george. supporter of donald trump. good morning. given all that women screamed about stereotyping, i mean screamed, we have been listening for 50 years. how can you stereotype that a woman would be a better president? a couple other statements. look back in history. joan of arc was a psychopathic killer. -- almost be the roman army. margaret thatcher waged war. other question. why would a woman be a better

president if you cannot stereotype? are you a socialist? i really believe that you're socialist and afraid to admit it. thank you very much. host: are you a socialist? believing in social safety nets, social security, medicare, if that makes me a socialist i suppose so. generally i think of myself as a progressive feminist. i think the caller is absolutely right. the mere fact that an individual is a woman does not make her call of i to be president. in, of my job would have suppose that michele bachmann became the nominee. she ran for president in 2012. suppose she or carly fiorina became the nominee. it would have been my job to try and defeat her because her policies in the view of my organization and in my own view our anti-woman.

that a person is president doesn't mean that she's the best person. hillary clinton is a woman who understands the needs of women and their families. she gets the struggles. she looks for real solutions in the struggles women and their families are facing. she is the woman who will move our country forward. host: one of our viewers saying the last eight years have been the functional equivalent of a coup d'etat. disgraceful. let's go to john supporting a third-party candidate. who are you supporting? actually i'm supporting anybody but hillary. i will vote for donald trump. proud to have two daughter-in-law's and four granddaughters. my daughter in-laws are both small business owners and they are anybody but hillary and they are all very feminist.

what i want to see happen is the hypocrisy that this woman is speaking about women that are and itdden and beaten just really upsets me to hear this person from now for women's rights. screwingy is miss everything that happens especially when hillary has a pedophile for a husband and a rapist for a husband and hillary is all of a sudden for women's rights? i mean come on. real and let the media investigate all the accusations against hillary and her husband. hypocrisy is just overwhelming when this woman is speaking about hillary being a good president. guest: actually there are some women who are still supporting donald trump to the reality is they are leaving the republican camp in droves. about --cause we talk

i believe it is up to nine or 10 women who have come forward to go public with the behaviors that trump has engaged in. the graphing, the fondling against their will. theseing about accusations is that it's donald trump himself who is the corroborating witness. he's the one in the billy bush the access hollywood video who brags about engaging in the very behavior that he now stands accused of. thisis why i say that election is really coming down to values. question that hillary clinton throughout her career has worked for women and for children. when she was first lady and she went to china for the world conference on women she was advised very strongly by individuals in the state

department not to talk about women's rights. but that would be divisive. she took the courageous step to say women rights are human rights. reason that was so important was women around the world were encouraged and empowered to see a first lady who broke the rules on behalf of standing up for women. the reality is donald trump will not pull the women's vote. women voters are much smarter than he is and they see right through him. new york times writing about michelle obama, calling her the octopus slayer. her speech that took lace and on thepshire we carried c-span networks. how significant was her speech last thursday? guest: it was amazing and anyone who hasn't the net really should go and watch it. it was inspiring. because she talked honestly and emotionally about the impact

that donald trump's word had on her. this is a man when you listen to that tape as she said, it hurts. women are now left thinking to themselves, is this what these guys are talking about? do these men when i'm not in the room, are they really saying things like that? are they encouraging the bullies in the room to say things like that? when i'm at work and i'm dealing with someone who is my. peer, is this someone who goes off into the locker room and speaks like that? toopens your entire ability be a productive part of your community. that is what women are looking for. they have a lot of capacity. they want to be able to make a contribution. the kind of talk that donald trump brags about engaging in --

it was only locker room talk he said. which means he's allowed to talk like that. its actually makes impossible for half the population to envision ourselves -- as fullyans equal humans. host: aaron from leesburg, virginia with terry o'neill. head of the national organization for women. good morning. caller: good morning. this whole election is absolutely mind-boggling. never have i imagined that a key point in this election will be about sexual harassment and infidelity in the white house. i just find that it is amazing to me. the whole issue of harassment and sexual abuse all started because of donald trump. hillary never brought up to clinton.

i think we are victimizing her by trying to bring bill clinton's infidelities into this discussion. i think that's wrong. what's even more horrifying is who you have these women would appear at a presidential debate knowing that they either were involved with a married man and sit in the front row like it's a badge of honor. i am very embarrassed about the lack of respect that we as women have shown for each other. if we had allst been victims or been harassed by in or women in the workplace powerful positions, we need to stay together. what's horrible is that the christian community who stands , keeping the family together is just writing this wave. the hypocrisy is amazing to me. there are victims out here.

they are reeling on this discussion to take advantage of this ugly comment. her a chance give to respond. thank you for the call. guest: i do agree. news isll you the good that the majority of women don't buy and were really outraged by the parading of donald trump to try to score political points against hillary clinton. what i keep hearing about it is that it angered a lot of women. made them angry at donald trump and made them feel quite protective of hillary clinton. so many of us have had our own personal experience is. community, i do find it disturbing that evangelicals would set aside

their professed devotion to certain types of behavior to not engage in the kind of things donald trump brags about and still support him. here's some good news. students at liberty university have been demonstrating and protesting against the president, jerry falwell jr., because he has continued to defend donald trump notwithstanding trump bragging about sexually assaulting women. these students said, that is not what you taught us. you have taught us better than that and we are standing up against donald trump. i think there are voices that are being raised and i'm hoping they will be listened to. ast: dean says, trump is total neanderthal. real men treat women with dignity and respect. guest: absolutely. masculinity is to grapple with the inequality of women.

to understand that you don't get your way just because you have a certain anatomy. all of civilized life in civilized society involves engagement with another person that you recognize as being as fully realized a human being as you are. and you don't always get what you want. sometimes you can get what you want to today for you, tomorrow for me. that is the world we need to build. that is exactly the world donald trump is telling his followers they don't need to deal with. dimensionthe racial of this election campaign has been very disturbing. donald trump is signaling to his followers that because they are white they get to have things their way. get to talk about people of color in the most derogatory and insulting and dehumanizing way. hillary clinton on the other hand is talking with and to people from all different

communities and saying, what is the issue that is most important to you and how can we sit down together and craft a solution? it will not be perfect. you will not necessarily like all parts of the solution. her entire approach is to be democratic and collaborative. those are the values we need to promote. any desire to work in a clinton administration? guest: i would be honored. it would the amazing. i have not been angling for that but she would be an amazing boss. host: is there a job that you would want? anything continuing to work in women's rights. i mentioned intersection analogy earlier. it really means looking to the margins. looking to women that have been what ourzed and seeing solutions that we can bring by putting the most

marginalized women and girls at the center of our analysis? it is something that has been talked about in academic circles for a long time. we have only recently begun to put that into policy. on the progressive feminist in the world, we are at an incredible moment where it's going to be possible to actually thate policy solutions will look at the most marginalized women and put them women entropy host: account of over half the population. should they be over half her cabinet? thet: they should be half cabinet, supreme court, and congress. host: supporter of donald trump. good morning. caller: good morning. a trump supporter, i am in anybody but clinton supporter. i would have to say that if you are a woman and you want to vote for a woman for president, vote for jill stein.

real men do treat women with respect. i agree with that. i'm going to just be a little bit graphic but i think there's a reason to. is putting a cigar in a woman's vagina treating them with respect? is having the state police usher a woman into a closed room and exposing yourself by putting down your pants and showing her penis being respectful to women? guest: that is exactly donald trump's response when he has been called to account for bragging about how he sexually assaulted women. that is exactly the response that he has brought forward. all i can tell you is that hillary clinton is a woman of enormous integrity. part of the argument against hillary clinton is that, she's not trustworthy.

fascinating to me, there a study out of harvard. they compared people's responses to a politician who was male and seeking political power and a politician who is female political power. the researchers noted that men as well as women tended to respond to the woman seeking political power with emotions, feelings of outrage. moral outrage that she would dare to seek political power. may be one of the reasons why i see a lot of women running for office who don't say they are seeking power. they say, i need to fix this problem. idea for have a good addressing this problem. i think that is a gendered understanding of where our politics are. i think hillary clinton would be an excellent president in the sense that because she works so hard with others and is so open

to collaborate with others including those she disagrees with, she will begin to bring that level of emotional discomfort down. a woman can be an effectivearily president of the united states and it doesn't bring a whole society crashing down. california, michael is next. are you truly undecided? clinton.t will not be i will to you that. i want someone honest. and this lady is not looking at what needs to be looked at. up thisobama screwing legacy and it will be a scandal. this scandal with loretta lynch is conspiracy. it is all clinton -- trump, and what are you going to do about one 100,000 members get tired and storm the white house?

what will you do about that? anst: i think that is important points. donald trump recently in his public appearances has seemed to signal that he will not accept the democratic process or loss if he loses the election. he has signaled that he may toport or promote violence losing the election. this is something paul ryan, speaker of the house, has put out a statement, indicating that would be beyond the bounds and rightly so. reallyhe question here willether donald trump become the president of the united states or whether hillary clinton will be the president of the united states. i want to go back to something that the earlier caller said the

about supporting jill stein. she is a perfectly good person, not ready to be president. in some ways, she has some really disturbing views that i strongly disagree with. and so i think that former voters need to know that voting for jill stein, in effect, is a way of putting donald trump in the white house and people really need to take their own counsel put understand that when they vote for joe stein, when they vote for gary johnson, that is an opportunity to put donald trump in the white house and they need to take personal responsibility for that. host: if you i'm assuming -- if you are listening on c-span we do, our guest is terry o'neill from national organization for women. despite everything, hillary clinton still with only a 4% lead. i say that because donald trump admittedly has had a top week.

63% of the surveyed say that the release of the access hollywood tape would not make a difference in the way they vote. guest: that tells you how polarized electorate is. supportersp's core are not willing to change their vote, no matter what. and the access hollywood video is not sufficient for them to change their vote. hillary clinton voters want to further president obama's legacy and they went to push further to ,et more of the policies passed so they will not change their vote because they believe hillary clinton is the pragmatic, progressive person can get it done. host: this is what donald trump said yesterday in new hampshire. [video clip] to me trump: it looks like a rigged election. the election is being rigged by corrupt media, pushing completely false allegations and

outright lies in an effort to elect her president. [booing] donald trump: you know what i mean. today, the cousin of one of --se people [chanting] trump: the cousin of one of these people very close to her wrote a letter about what she said is a lie. that she was a huge fan of donald trump. that she invited donald trump to a restaurant to have dinner, which by the way, i did not go to. did not even know who the heck , bute talking about here these allegations, many of them have been proven false, and in

fact, the other one with "people" magazine said it was a total lie. remember the butler? a totaler said it was lie. we cannot let them get away with this, folks. we cannot. total lies that you have been see\ing. -- seeing. total lies. but we will not back down. you have phony people coming up with phony allegations with no witnesses whatsoever, ending up from 20 years ago, 30 years ago. how about this crazy woman on the airplane? ok? can anybody believe that one? how about this? after 15 minutes, we don't know each other. well, she said that was too much. 15 minutes? with the ladies in this place, it would be one second and it would be [indiscernible] host: donald trump in new

hampshire yesterday. terry o'neill? saying that he would've expected a decent woman to smack him when he sexually assaults her. and he says it is obvious his accusers are not telling the truth because there are so ugly that they would not be his first choice to sexually assault. you have to ask yourself, i think, so he has in his mind a certain profile of someone he would. nice. host: let's go to sherry from des moines, iowa. thank you for waiting period good morning. caller: good morning. puke. about to make me i cannot believe what she is doing. i am goingnton -- with trump. i have to say that. let me ask her a question on this because there are a lot of good men that took my vendor

because they were saying things i wanted to say, but, no, they do not get -- women, number one, have lost respect. they have lost respect for themselves because i have worked "f" my life and i hear the word cost of the command of women's mouths. they talked dirty. even young school kids are using that four letter word. it is ok for these women, that is what they think. it is ok when it comes to them. i know i am kind of mad right miley cyrus gets up on stage half naked. i saw that tape with her, too. poker. a lot of these movie stars or poker and they talk about -- vulgear. a lot of these movie stars or poker and they talk about donald trump? guest: i am sympathetic with

what the caller said about respect. i get that what we are living our countryt now is changing, the world is changing. we are becoming much more multicultural. back in the day, respect followed class lines, racial changing, thelines, and they fr lines. people should know their place, but women were not supposed to step out of that place. women came forward and said that they had been sexually assaulted or sexually abused, they would have said that they were not trustworthy and there's the trustworthy problem again. the woman steps out of place and suddenly you cannot trust her. so we were all told whether place was. andrtunately, in the 1950's 1960's, respect along racial and gender lines were really damaging. they were damaging to women of color, in particular, damaging

to men of color, damaging to white women and very damaging also to white men. you just cannot keep saying those types of artificial reasons for respect. reality is we all need to be open to listening to one another . to do so, i agree in a civilized way. keep the nasty language private. i'm guilty myself sometimes. i try to hold back. a civiled to arrive at conversation in which we are able to respect one another, but we need to learn how to do that, putting aside what we learned in the 1950's and 1960's, which was that these people get respect because of the color of their skin and these people do not. we need to put that aside. host: jerry, you are next. supporter of hillary clinton. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing? guest: good morning. caller: i have been watching the program and have two daughters, three daughters i should say, excuse me.

and here toupset talk about in the locker room. when i became a supervisor, that talk was in the office of the people are supervised. when i heard something negative spoken against a woman on the no matter what, i called them up and said, knock it off. if i hear one more word, we are going downtown. i said every man in this world has to respect the woman. that is very important to them and i wish they would wake up to it. i am so nervous right now askking about it, and i people all the time, i hate hillary, i cannot trust her. i asked the person every time i faced him, why don't you trust her? they cannot -- every time i faced them, why don't you trust her? to cannot come up with a reason. well, i heard it. you heard it on the radio or someplace? how do you know she is a liar? we should all perspective.

we should respect every woman that we meet. i will tell you fellows out there, it is about time you woke up and become gentlemen because that is the changing world. you see a change and i hope it is going to be for everyone, including women. host: i assume you are retired now, correct? caller: yes, i am. you remember me? [laughter] host: yes. you are a supervisor where? caller: i was a supervisor at an engineering department. in milwaukee. host: thank you. caller: i didn't want to say where i was working. host: that's fine. we get the message. call back again. good: thank you remodeling bystander behavior. that is one of the most important. one of the things most upsetting about the access hollywood video is bush's role, egging on donald trump, encouraging them to

become more outrageous and to verbalize more and more outrageous things. the right way for a bystander to behave is to stand up to the bullies saying the horrible things. in don't even have to do it the confrontational way. jerry was in a position as supervisor unable to use his position us supervisor to put a stop to it. if you are not the supervisor, use humor, the gentle and say, it onor you can put yourself. that is really making me uncomfortable. i do not view it that way and i don't think other people view it that way. i do that myself and the work place and it does seven impact. to some degree, it is on all of us. i do also want to emphasize jerry's words that that is not normal behavior for men. in fact, most men, a vast majority, to not act that way. i heard someone say, first of

all, in the locker room in professional sports, they mostly talk about work, but the other thing they said is that when you talk about romantic conquests, they don't talk about committing assault, they talk about how are all over me, and it is not bragging about committing assault the way donald trump good. host: terry o'neill who is the head of the national organization for women, president, not director, and may of the clinton cabinet if elected. guest: [laughter] rights. host: thank you. guest: thank you, steve. host: when we come back, former house speaker newt gingrich out .o the new nonfiction book and his thoughts on the campaign and donald trump. you are listening and watching "washington journal" on this sunday, october 16. back in a moment. ♪

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[laughter] >> tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q and a." >> "washington journal" continues. host: we want to welcome back former house speaker newt gingrich newt gingrich. out with a new book called "treason." but finish this sentence. the state of the republican party three weeks before the election is what? guest: chaotic. and a changeange, driven by the voters and not donald trump. began,e election process about 62% of the republican voters said they were unhappy with the leadership in washington, and that is quite trump the 16th of the candidates. not just donald trump but the voter base that when a dramatic change. real changes chaotic, not a comfortable and easy soft thing. that is what we are in the early stages of. host: yesterday, donald trump was in new hampshire and they'll

get your reaction of what he said about the upcoming debate. [video clip] athletes make them take a drug test, right? i think we should take a drug test prior to the debate. i do. why do we do that? we should take a drug test because i do not know what is going on with her, but at the beginning of her last debate, she was all pumped up at the beginning, and at the end, it was like, take me down. she could barely reach her car. host: mr. speaker, your reaction? guest: he goes off on these tangents that i do not think are central to winning. it strikes me that he can beat hillary clinton on really big issues in which she is really guilty. he does not need to go up on

these tangents, making him look like he is doing things that do not fit the average person's idea what the presidential campaign ought to be. host: what are the issues that chris wallace has asked it to be president? you can assume he will be asking about the audiotapes and charges against him. how should you respond? guest: i think he ought to say that the things i have been in my life i'm not proud of and i have apologized, but everybody who has worked at me and watch this campaign knows i am totally committed to helping save america and i will do everything i can to four hours a day to help save america. host: "the new york times" this morning, paul ryan, a long labor path leading away from donald trump. was it a mistake to say he will not campaign for the gop nominee? guest: i think he was sending a signal to all members, which is it is not their job to defend donald trump. that is donald trump's job. it is their job to defeat

hillary clinton. walk a ryan has to narrow line and i think he has walked that line. to hariri.ed take him out with a strong statement two days ago about the anti-capital bigotry and the hillary's senior staff, and i think you will continue to be openly opposed to hillary. frankly, it is not his job to run around and defend everything donald trump says. host: you also made the comment on fox news last week about the lynching of the media and you quote someone who writes about politics in minnesota. guest: he wrote a fascinating aece that he described as media coup d'etat. he said that 14 million americans picked donald trump as the republican nominee. about 20 or 30 years executives decided last friday to destroy him. "the hill" came out with an analysis. on friday, you had to wikileaks about hillary and this 11-year-old tape about trump.

the evening news of the three networks was 23 minutes on trump and 57 seconds on hillary. that is an unending one-sided barrage that i have never seen anything like in my lifetime. ,t is a continuous, all week the continuing assault on trump, while ignoring criminal behavior revealed by wikileaks, and it is astonishing to me the mismatch in coverage. out thats pointing this is way beyond bias. this was a deliberate effort to destroy candidate of a major party and that is what trump means when they talk about the election being rigged. it is not rigged by the local precinct worker. it is rigged by the national networks, "the new york times," "the washington post," and i have been looking at this since august 1958 and i think they are right. the establishment is terrified by the genuine outsider and doubly terrified of the conservative outsider. i think the gloves are off and

they will destroy him. ironically, in the abc poll this was two the total shift points. if i was the news media, be worried that in the end what they are doing is alienating the whole country. host: who wins november 8? guest: trump. if you look around the world, people are sick of corruption, sick of the dishonesty, sick of the establishment and it is to it brexit in great britain, in iceland where a teacher won the election for special president and two in rome, for the first time in 2000 years, a woman mayor, who comes from the five-star move, which was founded by comedian as an anticorruption movement. all over the planet, people are fed up with politicians who are lying, cheating and stealing. i think clinton is the personification, the two clintons are the personification of corruption. host: our guest, former house speaker newt gingrich newt

gingrich. we'll go to florida, supporter of donald trump. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for allowing me to speak. newt gingrich, i appreciate your intelligence and diligence to find the facts for us voters. at first, i am a 24 carat gold constituent from the tampa, florida, and i have just had it. i was initially going to vote another way, but having heard you, specifically you, articulate in a gentlemanly matter on how worse off our country would be with the likes of hillary clinton, also, too, i would like you to express to donald trump, please, talk about the way the democratic party deceived us in order to push ahead the employer mandate so

-- democratscrati would not be affected by such horrific thing when they found or that once the democrat employer mandate was to be initiated, that it was hurt millions and millions of hard-working voters and americans. host: patricia, thank you for the call. guest: then, one of the reasons people are fed up with washington is president obama campaigned promising you could keep your doctor, your health insurance. not only was it not true, we knew he knew it was not true. if he had told the truth, he would not have gotten elected and that is why. people are so fed up with all of trump's weaknesses, and he clearly has week this is. he has a level of candor, that i think for americans, was a refreshing change from the package professional dishonesty which surrounds us in american

politics today. host: you have said there is big trump and little trump. why does he not verbally away from the little stuff and focus on big issues? when you talk to him, what do you tell him? guest: we talk about it directly and he is gone much further. he is a 70-year-old billionaire who beat 16 people, including very, very good candidates. the history of the republican party and he says, wait a second, i have done pretty well, tell me why i have to change? he is in a different league, potential president, the standards are different than money for the nomination and he does have to change and gradually getting there. i worry if you will get there fast enough. he is a great showman. i have been at several rallies. part of this came out of "the apprentice" and the experience he has had with "miss universe" and the things he has done as a marketer. he gets into the crowd and he and the crowd are dancing, and

sometimes that is a mistake. when you look at it on television, it is not nearly as exciting when you stand there were 2000 people. host: from washington, good morning. you newt?y i call guest: of course. old andi am 80 years you came on my radar screen -- and thatnd night that you are the most brilliant political strategist in my lifetime. guest: wow. caller: you know, your contract for america was -- that is all for thed about following year in the newspapers and the television. strategy was perfect. want -- there is a question of

like to ask you. the democrats have only got 13 governors left and they have not had control of the house, but two art of the last 19 years for the last 21 years, so your strategy worked perfectly well. you are the most brilliant political strategist i have ever known. now the question. house,u retired from the was it because of the little super pac or book deal or may be was it your visit to your wife when she was dying of cancer? what was the reason for your retirement? guest: those are all three very good rumors. none of which are true. my ex-wife, the so-called visit that my daughters were with me

on was in 1980, long before i became speaker of the house. the contract i signed was in 1994, long before i left the house. i cannot set up the american solutions, which was not a super pac, they did not exist back then, until after i left the house. the truth was i burned out my welcome. i was such an aggressive, change oriented speaker. i pushed so many things, reformed welfare, balanced the budget for four years, and the members got tired of it. it was turmoil all the time because we were pushing and pushing and pushing. i finally realized the truth was after the 1998 election that they were were not, i was one out and it was time to go. i was comfortable leaving and i have had a pretty remarkable career since then. i am very happy having been speaker of the house. great honor. happy to observe the people of

georgia for 20 years. great honor, but i am also happy writing books, making movies and other things. host: have you had any conversations with former speaker john boehner? guest: i have not. i should probably give him a call. great guy who did the great job. he led the party back into the majority. he was the conference chair when i was speaker. host: he came in the 1994, correct? no, i think 1990 because he was part of the gang of seven that reformed the house and he became conference chair when i became majority and he did the great job. a very confident guy. host: "treason" his book number what? guest: 28 and, depending if you count side books. host: this is a nonfiction book. a novel.is is but we did was say, you know from the soviet archives that they had about 500 agents in place in the american government in the 1940's, some very high up. what it isis had two people are

three people who were loyal to isis but insignificant american positions. for example, they were in the fbi hierarchy, the department of homeland security? how dangerous would that be and how could that affect things? ande started from there developed a novel, which is very fast-paced, and gives you a real sense of how real the terrorist threat is an brings up things like what has happened in france, belgium, germany, and reason into an american story. i think people find it entertaining and sheer fast-paced writing, but also, they will see some things about your accuracy, politics, and terrorism that i think will be helpful in furthering the national conversation. host: vice president joe biden this morning indicating the u.s. is preparing her a possible cyber attack strategy against russia. will we? should re-?

-- should we? guest: we should be careful. knowledge, there is no proof that the russians are engaged in a cyber attack strategy and if it involves hacking, the national security agency is the leading hacker on the planet and we do a lot of stuff to learn about what foreign leaders are doing. host: you bring your own stuffed animal. what is this about? guest: there have now been six history books for eight-year-olds, and it is where they teach them american history and our newest one is "hail to the chief," where it introduces american presidents and the created an plush toy elephant made in america. little kids love it, so i thought i would get along and have show and tell. host: you brought it on sean hannity's program. guest: he was startled. i called him after and he said, in the middle of an election you, you bring up a toy elephant? i said, yes, he is cute. host: in missouri, good morning.

go ahead. caller: thank you. voice, thank you the c-span. tos is all about temperament me. very much so temperament. i think donald trump has the temperament. i do not care what he says. he does not have the temperament. guest: i think that is a very serious issue and one that trump over the next couple of weeks has to continue to gain ground on. it is also to the stories about hillary clinton blowing up and being angry. the most recent story about throwing a glass of water at one of her staff immediately after the national security debate, when she was really, really unhappy. those things are there. their challenge we have is an amateur and trump was a

brand-new outsider, never in politics, and great strengths and weaknesses. you have a professional hillary clinton, who first got involved with joe lieberman's senate race 40 years ago, but she and her husband have a record of corruption and dishonesty so great that if you take that to the white house, it is not a test of temperament. it is a test of whether the will of law will survive. i think people do have serious conversations and a decision to make. which of these two risks is greater and which is a larger threat to the united states? in my case, i am convinced the more we learn from wikileaks, the more we learn from watching what is going on, the danger of the clintons corrupting the entire system is so great that i'm willing to take the risk of temperamental trump. that does not mean it is a sure thing. he will be different. he wants someone who will be a change agent. change agents are different, whether it is steve jobs creating apple or whether it is henry ford inventing the

automotive. these changes are different than corporate c rise within the system. host: if elected, i asked terry o'neill, too, would you served within the administration? guest: i would wreck with trump to rethink the government. host: why does donald trump continue to talk about hillary clinton's health? fascinated, i don't know. he has in intuition about it. he has done things in the past him at taking on jeb bush, marco rubio, that i would not have done and when he first did it, i thought it would not work but it worked. it may be his balance off. he knows there is a real effort his temperament is wrong. what he is trying to say is, yes, and she does not have the physical stamina to do the job. it is not something i would harp on. at foxnews.com, you wrote "hillary clinton is dangerous to

look open borders. toknow why she would refused release her paid speeches to bankers and special interests, when her staff assembled a list of the most damaging comments in those transcripts, they must have seen immediately that they cannot afford for the material they made public. you go on to say that "hillary's tomb of open borders would send the wages and incomes of millions of americans into freefall. at the same time, it would mean an explosion of buffer cost of the state and federal government. hillary's you would literally drive americans and america bankrupt." ae said they paid her to $25,000 for the speech and earlier, they paid her husband $400,000 and she says, my dream -- dream is a strong word -- my dream is that we will open borders in the western hemisphere. if you look at the mexican drug cartels, ms 13 gangs in el salvador, cocaine cartels in

columbia, open borders would be disaster from that standpoint. second, there are 600 million people that can cross an open border. some of whom have wages. the clinton state department lobbied against raising the haitian minimum wage from three dollars a day, not an hour, a day, to five dollars a day. if we had truly open borders and you are sitting in haiti and thinking, let me get this straight, i could earn three dollars a day working in haiti or i could go to the u.s. and have a $15 an hour minimum wage -- gee, i wonder what i will do? in theonce estimated world poll that there were 165 million people who were prepared to move to the u.s. if they could figure out how to do it. that? you handle in southern california, look at the number of people on medicare who are not legally here. the cost in the state of california, it is breathtaking how expensive it can be.

that is like it. set the news media. 23 minutes on a kate -- on a tape from 11 digital and they skip this material out of wikileaks. if that got 23 minutes of national to be time, she would be toast. let's go to florida, good morning. who are you voting for, margaret? caller: and decided, an independent, -- undecided, independent, no fan of donald trump. mr. speaker, i have great respect for you and your wife. first, i want to say quickly that it is interesting that vice president biden is not going to do his hacking machine talk so we can downplay the wikileaks. it is so depressing. i am 64, roman catholic, very to an immigrant and we raised our kids. he has never been on public assistance. i hase never been told --

been was never told anything, he came and assimilated. i always tell my many liberal friends -- i am in social services -- there's nothing more insulting to [indiscernible] i do not care for donald trump. i never watched his show. i think this is so interesting that if you package it in the murmuring speech, and i think she is very smart, nobody would question how smart hillary clinton is, but the idea that this woman, because she talks quietly, would do something good for this country -- i remember clearly when bill clinton smeared and was so shamefully embarrassing, so disgusting to generate, and i remember then that we should have asked the questions and the only reason he lied was that his private life has nothing to do with how he was governed great while i am no fan of donald trump, suddenly, and i did not

hear miss o'neill come out and they do notow defend those women, how hillary clinton's shameful treatment of those women and how bill clinton did not pay women equally and referred to latinas, they're the biggest hypocrites in the world. while donald trump is no fine man, as far as i'm concerned, i do not bind them to be a liar or hypocrite. i will let you comment on that than i am disturbed and depressed for america. thank you, mr. speaker. guest: i think he put it very well. the reason the election is this closes on one end, you have a jail educated lawyer very to another yale educated lawyer, both amazingly polished and good -- you have the yale educated lawyer married to another jail educated lawyer, both amazingly polished and good. carlos slim, the richest men in mexico, a major investor in "the new york times," and the whole thing i think is correct.

on the other hand, you have a guy who is uneven and strengths and weaknesses and has never been in politics before. he brings the clumsiness of that this this man in the public arena. very good at business but never has been in the public arena. he is not as slick as hillary clinton and he is very authentic. you really get the donald trump that is real. whereas with hillary, you read wikileaks -- let me make one point about wikileaks. what a wonderful irony. she deletes 33,000 e-mails and now they're showing up to wikileaks and now their complaint it is the russians giving us the e-mails she deleted. your writing accommodate. aboutuld write a comedy this experience and the tragic components are astonishing. it endangers the rule of law and america in a way that i think moves us towards being like venezuela and is very dangerous. host: did you happen to catch excerpts of the show obama's

speech in new hampshire? guest: no. host: i will share part of what she said. [video clip] michelle obama: some of you are treating this as another day's headlines, as if our outrage is as ifown or unwarranted, .his is normal politics as usual. but new hampshire, the clear, this is not normal. this is not politics. [applause] [cheering] michelle obama: this is , and itful, intolerable doesn't matter what party you .elong to democrat, republican, independent. no woman deserves to be treated this way. none of us deserves this kind of abuse. [applause]

know ae obama: and i disk the campaign, but this isn't about politics. it is about basic human decency. it is about right and wrong, and we simply cannot endure this or expose our children to this any longer, not for another minute and let alone for four years. [applause] michelle obama: now is the time for all of us to stand up and say, enough is enough. [cheering] host: mr. speaker, this speech getting a lot of attention. your reaction? .uest: it is baroque you could rent a split screen of bill clinton giving an hour-long address at the democratic convention, which renominated ask, if she, and really means what she said in new hampshire, how can she tolerate bill clinton at the democratic national convention? tossed initiates in there with bill clinton -- how often she

had dinner with bill clinton? how do they say the democratic party is the party of purity? she is an interesting person, very attractive person, a very popular first lady, and she is now exploding that for political reasons, which we understand, but to take seriously that speech on behalf of bill clinton's wife is an astonishing schizophrenia that says, my guide is really horrible things, by the way, and lost his license to practice law, impeached by the u.s. house and have to pay thousands of dollars in court settlement, but he is all right because bill is just bill. the whole speech is hypocritical . if she is sincere, how can she possibly support hillary clinton? let's go to arnold from new york. supported hillary clinton. good morning. caller: good morning.

if you mean angry, i have to agree with you about mr. trump. i'm happy to see you are producing your stuffed elephant in america because all the problems that are endorsed seem to be made overseas. guest: you should buy the elephant to support manufacturing in america. caller: [laughter] there are a lot of products. guest: go ahead, i'm sorry. caller: anyway, when you talk about trump, he does not have any legislative record or background. he just speaks about his great business acumen. days,ck in the good old they wanted to be sure that his constituency or that he was not across -- not [indiscernible] they released his tax returns and we learned about a little deal about the way he handled his profits. you insisting that

the releases taxes to the american people? you can release them if he chooses, even if he doesn't release the ones under audit, released the 20 years previous. guest: i thought all along that he ought to make an offer that at the clinton foundation will reveal all of their records, he rover bureau the tax records. when you cannot figure out how many million dollars that was given to the clinton foundation or how many million dollars they gave to the clinton foundation, when you cannot figure out what was in her 33,000 deleted e-mails, a little hard for them to be the party of transparency. i'm not defending trump. i am saying we are in an election cycle and both sides of covered a lot of the stuff. host: where did you find the u.s. manufacturer of the elephant? guest: i didn't. they found them in arizona and they worked with them for three months to get the elephant just

right. we tested it out yesterday at the barnes & noble's. bear,ave a barnes & noble and so we have the two of them together and little kids -- this was the first field test -- and little kids like the elephant. host: is it hard to find american manufacturers for these products? guest: it is and twice as expensive if you buy them from china, but we felt we had an obligation to teach american history to american kids and you want to do with an elephant made in america. , goodlet's go to ken morning. caller: good morning. first of all, i want to congratulate you for being in the bullpen, if you will, for the coming debates. speaker, pleasure to talk to you today. i did have the pleasure of meeting you one year. it was in 2012, so that was nice.

-- i wonder why in defense of who has control of congress, in other words, when when the bush -- liberals blame president bush on the economy going south in 2007, to me, the timing of that is that the republicans lost control of the house in the senate. therefore, the downfall. if you take that back to the got an administration, he lot of credit and a give him due credit for working with congress. congress was not controlled by the republicans. i did the graph over the last 40 it, if you look at who is president and a certain time and it was in charge of congress at a certain time over when the economy

is on an upswing, the republicans are in charge, when it is not, the democrats are in control, with the exception of president obama. servese present [indiscernible] i want to get your thoughts on that and why that isn't an argument when they say i guess going back to -- host: thanks. we had a few minutes. think there are some cases to be made for that. then we took over the first years of the administration, the stock market was stagnant, the economy relatively stagnant. taxassed a series of reforms, welfare reforms, balances of the budget and the economy took off. i think part of what happens is that the scale of the shock was so great that the bush administration literally was just coping every single day

with the world that look like it was falling apart and there were no political considerations. obama had a great opportunity and i think he blew it in 2009-2010, and in 2000 10, john boehner led the house republicans in the great campaign built around the phrase "where are the jobs? " i think it was impressive other republicans came back in 2010. host: was nafta mistake? you supported it, though clinton signed the, donald trump is running against nafta. guest: at the time, i think it was the right thing to do. i think we needed a midcourse correction in the 2001-2002 period. we underestimated, and the combination of bad american tax policy, regulatory policy and having a nearby market. market ways, the u.s. drives companies out of the

u.s., so with mexico as a relatively safe place nearby, we in fact include the mexican economy dramatically. we did it at the expense of lots of companies that left, particularly the industrial midwest, and i don't think we anticipated have been that change would be. a lot of that is bad american policy. our tax code is terrible. we drive companies out of america, we drove companies and ifunited states, anything, i think clinton would be worse than obama and obama has driven 7 million jobs out of the u.s. by his tax and regulatory policies. host: two final points. is speaker ryan firmly in control? brilliant, is hard-working, very decent guy, great family man. i cannot imagine any serious challenge to him. i think he will be speaker for a good file and i think his program is in the blood away, a

whole range of things they are doing, and impressive effort to lay out a reform agenda that is positive and sophisticated. i think you will be fascinating to watch him, whether with trump or clinton, because he is a strong guy with real ideas. host: any concerns the republicans are losing the house or senate? guest: you have to be concerned about the senate because it is narrowly divided that we are doing better. ron johnson of wisconsin coming back, rob portman put that race away and i be on theo will floor, so it is close. my hunch is will keep the senate by a narrow margin and the democrats of the huge problem in 2018 because there are 24 democrats up and only 10 republicans. if hillary ends up as president, i think they will take a bath in the senate. host: you live in virginia now and donald trump has pulled out of virginia, why? guest: i don't know that he has. you cannot tell with the trump

campaign because of this platonic and it rolls out so much in social media that he is everywhere all the time. he has 27 lay people in his social media base. host: -- he has 27 way people in his social media base. he has 27 million people in his social media base. .ost: thank you, newt gingrich two new web videos from the clinton and trump campaigns released on friday. let's watch. [video clip] have a candidate for president to over the course of his life to him in the course of this campaign has said things about women that are so shocking. i simply will not repeat anything here today. it has shaken me to my core in a way that i could not have predicted. individualpowerful speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behavior and actually bragging about kissing and groping women, using language so it seemed that many of us are worried about our children hearing it when we turn

on the tv. that this is not an isolated incident. it is a countless example of how he has treated women his whole life and i feel it personally, the shameful comments about our bodies, the disrespect of our ambitions and intellect, the belief that you can do anything you want to woman? it is cruel. it is frightening, and the truth is, it hurts. hillary's opponent win the election, we are sending a clear message to our kids, that everything they are seeing and hearing is perfectly ok. we are validating it. we are endorsing it. that hillary clinton embodies so many of the values hard to to try and people come advocating for kids with disabilities, fighting for children's health care, affordable childcare in the senate. hillary has been a lawyer, a law

professor, first lady of arkansas, first lady of the united states, u.s. sender, secretary of state, and has been successful in every role, getting more experience than any candidate in our lifetime. more than barack, more than bill , and yes, she happens to be a woman. [applause] [cheering] she is an outstanding mother. she is a loving, loyal wife. she is a devoted daughter, who cared for her mother until her final days, and if any of us had raised a daughter like hillary clinton, we would be so proud. we would be proud. [applause] or herhillary clinton opponent will be elected president, and if you vote for someone other than hillary or if you do not vote at all, then you are helping to elect her opponent. we simply cannot let that happen. this is not politics as usual.

we as americans, we has decent human beings, can come together to stand up and say, enough is enough. [applause] [cheering] >> i really am tired of seeing what is happening in this country. other people live like kings and we are not. in thell be out of work near future as far as i can see and i'm anxious to see what they can bring now. >> i would much prefer somebody else do it. i do not somebody else is there. i do not know free had the kind of advocates we need. this country needs major saving. think i would do a fantastic job. i would prefer not doing it. our preferred to see somebody asked the president who could do the job and their capable people

in the country. president,u be honestly president, and not think about the trump building at the general motors site? do veryly, it would good. i had the best locations. >> our country needs a president to his able to dream big. my father will be able to do that. in the very big and real way. >> someone with strong views and views that may be unpopular, which may be [indiscernible] it would not necessarily have the chance of getting elected against someone with no great rain but a big smile. >> people like seeing donald trump. he was extraordinary and the al-assad opinions, gregarious. -- always extraordinary in his opinions, or gary is. >> [indiscernible] i have no idea. i'm a republican because i believe in certain principles of the republican party. a very different

leadership quality and i think people are starting to see that. my father will do a great job for the nation, and unbelievable job for the nation. tired of this, and i'm talking about may be a two years, 12 beers, -- -- 12 years -- >> you want to become a winner, david? [applause] two new web videos from the trump and clinton campaigns that were released on friday. last night on "snl," this was the opening skit. [video clip] ♪ [applause] hello and welcome to the second and worst ever presidential debate. i am marked erratic. cooper.nderson before we begin, one last thing.

[laughter] much better. let's get the nightmare started. please, welcome the candidates republican nominee donald trump. can we say this yet? >> probably fine. >> president hillary clinton. [laughter] [applause] [laughter] [applause] >> thank you for being here. thank you for having me. i would like to begin tonight by attempting a casual leave. [laughter] >> you got it. >> martha, tonight, i am going to do three things, i'm going to

puff, and blow this whole thing -- [laughter] tonight's debate at the town hall, which means they will take questions from voters in the audience. they are undecided, uncommitted and not remotely camera ready. [laughter] >> secretary clinton, your question comes from -- youello, do you feel that are modeling appropriate and positive behavior for today's youth? >> hi, patrice. let me start by walking over to just as i practiced, right, left, right, left. [laughter] you are a teacher? you have kids? you like kids? >> no. >> ok, great. we are bonding already. strive to be a positive role

model for children like my daughter chelsea and the granddaughter chelsea junior. [laughter] >> mr. trump, some question. do you feel you are modeling appropriate behavior? >> know, next? "snl,"rom last night's the opening skit, courtesy of nbc. we continued the conversation at the morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern time, 4:00 on the west coast. our guest will talk about millennials in the latest polling from peter hart on the 2016 campaign. "newsmakers" is up next. thanks for joining us. enjoy the rest of your weekend. have a great week ahead. watch her campaign coverage all week on the c-span network. -- watch our campaign coverage all the gun the c-span network. ♪

morning,n c-span this newsmakers with jessica o'connell, executive director of emily's list. and then, some debates took place this week for u.s. senate. north carolina, wisconsin, and nevada. greta: this weekend's newsmakers, we have the executive director of emily's list, jessica o'connell. jessica o'connell, you at emily's list have been a player for decades in senate races for years. you are for pro-choice senate candidates. in 2010, your group spent $24.7 million, 2012, $34 million, 2014, $45 million. what will be the number of this time around? jessica: a big one. a big one. this is the biggest cycle for women in our lifetimes.