chicago one of america's great cities, on the edge tonight, as yet another racial incident threatens to blow up in the face of everyone. we'll keep you post. i'm going to keep you on this picture as we hand it over to lou dobbs. lou: good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. tensions reaching a boiling point on the syrian-turkey border after turkish shot down a russian fighter. turkey saying the jet violated airspace, a claim backed up from the united states and nato, but russian president putin simply outraged and signaled retaliation and revenge as other leaders urge caution. >> naturally our military are pursuing a heroic battle against terrorism. sacrificing themselves and their lives.

today's loss for us was like a stab in the back delivered by the accomplices of terrorists. lou: the international incident taking place as president obama welcomed french president francois hollande to the white house. where the two leaders discussed strategy to defeat the islamic state. nothing significant came of their talks, little is expected to begin with. mr. obama summed up their progress with this tepid statement that the united states would, quote, step up its coordination with france. i'll take up the president's barely discernible and failing strategy and the further risk of military escalation between russia and turkey. we'll be talking about that with ambassadors robert jordan and john bolton. a new poll shows changing fortunes in the republican race for the presidential nomination. until now donald trump steered clear of criticizing senator ted cruz. that may soon change.

according to the quinnipiac poll cruz not ben carson is trump's rival in the state of iowa. trump has a substantial lead in all national polls but in iowa things are changing. we'll have a full report coming up. and the american civil liberties union filing a lawsuit against the state of indiana over its refusal to take in syrian refugees. the aclu argues that the state's action wrongly targets refugees based on their nationality. we'll take up the case with some of the best attorneys in the business here tonight. and we're monitoring the situation in the city of chicago. there city officials, if we could go to the live pictures, officials are warning businesses, there they are, the black lives matter movement behind these demonstrations protesting the shooting. they're prepared for protests,

we were told as they release the video of a white police officer shooting a teenaged black, 15-16 times. we'll have much more on that and the demonstrations that you're seeing begin to get under way in the city of chicago. our top story tonight, russian president putin is calling the turkish shootdown of a russian jet fighter a stab in the back, as he put it, by the accomplices of terrorists. and president putin vowed serious consequences for turkey. mounting concerns tonight the syrian conflict is about to escalate. turkey says it hit the plane after it repeatedly violated turkey's airspace and ignored 10, 10 warnings. the incidents the first time that a nato nation nation has shot down a russian warplane in more than half a century. fox news correspondent jennifer griffin with our report. >> reporter: the turkish government says pilots issued ten warnings in a matter of

five minutes. senior u.s. military official confirms the russian warplane crossed into southern turkey. two f-16's intercepted the plane, standing with the french president at the white house, president obama said turkey has the right to defend its airspace. >> it's very important for us to understand that the russians and the turks are talking to each other, find out exactly what happened, and take measures to discourage escalation. >> reporter: turkish authorities released this map. u.s. forces heard multiple warnings issued by the f-16 pilots to the russians on the guard frequency, and emergency frequency in all aircraft. >> we were able to hear everything going on. obviously, these are on open channels. i'm sure there are others who heard it as well. >> reporter: both russian pilots ejected from the plane after it was hit.

a syrian rebel group claimed it shot the pilots as parachutes descended. one pilot is dead and a russian marine was confirmed to rescue the pilot. showing a fighter a u.s. toe anti-tank missile as russian forces approach the crash site in northern syria. russian president vladimir putin lashed out at turks visiting jordan. today's loss is a stab in the back by the terrorist accomplices. >> reporter: the violation took place north of latakia, syria has never recognized turkish claims to the land. the turks requested the u.s. send in six f-16 fighter planes to guard the southern border. the planes arrived earlier this month. today russia deployed a missile cruiser off the syrian coast ordering it to destroy any

target that poses a danger to forces, lou? lou: jennifer griffin from the pentagon. the downing of the russian jet fighter complicating a highlight anticipated white house visit by french president francois hollande. but critics looking for a revamped strategy to fight the islamic state or show solidarity with the french are disappointed. instead, president obama failed to outline concrete specific measures to fight the radical islamists. conservative commentator nile gardiner put it this way -- fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the report. >> reporter: reeling from the paris attacks, they grappled with the news that turkish pilots shot down a russian fighter jet along the syrian border. the two leaders said the incident should convince

russian president vladimir putin, who is to meet with hollande thursday, to shift the focus of russia's military campaign to isis, also known as daesh or isil. >> if russia is directing energies towards daesh and isil, some of those conflicts or potentials for mistakes or escalation are less likely to occur. >> reporter: france monday conducted sixth airstrikes on raqaa, the isis capital in syria. and mr. obama agreed to scale up. >> we will have some more specific targets to make sure that daesh resources, their means are cut off, including command centers, trucks carrying oil, training centers where they prepare terror attacks. >> reporter: reading from the words engraved on the statue of liberty, those who verge a halt are returning to america to darkest chapters.

>> there have been time in our history in moments of fear when we have failed to uphold our highest ideals, and it has been to our lasting regret. >> reporter: hollande said the refugees should be kept close to countries of origin and acknowledged dangers some could pose. >> we now realize we have an influx of refugees that the terrorists, the risk is everywhere due to daesh. >> reporter: retired army general jack keane said he sees nothing like that coming from president obama today. >> he's going to improve the air campaign, remove some of the stretches. we may see advisers go, in few more apaches. but the wholesale commitment, resolve, determination, that's not going to be there. >> reporter: both presidents made clear they don't intend to send large troop deployments into the syrian theater.

we heard president obama with the turkish president discussing how to avoid incidents like the russian shootdown in the future. lou? lou: james, thank you. james rosen from the white house. iran ramped up cyberattacks against the united states following the conclusion of the nuclear deal with president obama and world powers. the "new york times" reporting iranian hackers have launched a cyberoffensive against the u.s. state department breaking into official e-mails and social media accounts over recent months, perhaps more troubling, the state department became aware of the attacks after facebook told the victims that state-backed hackers had infiltrated their accounts. turning to presidential politics and a big shift in the crucial state of iowa. a new quinnipiac poll shows senator ted cruz pulled ahead of dr. ben carson into a statistical dead heat with front-runner donald trump. trump retains a narrow lead of

25% followed by cruz at 23. carson at 18. marco rubio at 13. rand paul at 5%. ohio governor john kasich netting 1% support in the poll, but the super pac that supports kasich is trying to change that by going negative. on the front-runner, they're spending 2.5 million dollars not on their little known candidate, but on an anti-trump attack campaign. this is their first ad. >> he's not a war hero. >> he's a war hero. >> 5 1/2 years. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. >> if ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps i'd be dating her. >> so weird! >> i have a great relationship with the blacks. i've always had a great relationship with the blacks. >> the blacks. lou: trump's attorney firing back warning the republicans,

that republicans must treat trump fairly if they want to keep him from launching an independent bid, that bid looks closer tonight after watching mr. kasich and the way his pac is spending money. well, the american civil liberties union filing a lawsuit against indiana governor mike pence because governor pence refused to allow syrian refugees to resettle in the state of indiana. the aclu going to court arguing that the move violates federal law and the u.s. constitution. pence is one of more than 25 governors who publicly called on the president to stop the resettlement of syrian refugees following the terrorist attacks in paris. governors cite concerns that islamic state terrorists could pose as refugees. we'll have much more later in the broadcast. we're coming right back. stay with us. turkey shoots down a russian warplane. u.s. armed syrian rebels shoot

down a rescue helicopter. direct military confrontations on the rise? where will it all lead? we take that up with ambassador robert jordan here next. and a finnish stunt man discovered a way to make his skydiving more exhilarating. coming up after these messages. we'll be right back. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet?

. lou: nato today held what it called an extraordinary meeting after turkey shot down a russian jet fighter. secretary-general jan stoltenberg calling for calm after the aircraft was shot down. last month nato warned russia it was calling extreme danger flying into turkish airspace. joining us tonight is former ambassador to saudi arabia currently diplomat and residents at george washington university, good have you with us, ambassador. this is an extraordinary meeting on the part of nato and extraordinary incident followed in by the shootdown apparently

by u.s.-backed syrian rebels of a russian helicopter going into rescue survivors if there were any. where are we headed with this? what is turkey thinking? >> well, turkey is trying to stand up for its own sovereignty. they have had several other incursions by the russians before this incident, and have certainly clearly warned them by all accounts today, and so they, i think erdogan is trying to flex his muscles, he's been re-elected. he's trying to point to outside threats to the sovereignty of turkey to rally his population. he may have overplayed his hand here, but i do think we can count on nato to embrace turkey as a nato country, although i think calling for calm is appropriate. i don't think they need to overreact in this situation, but it's certainly one where the russians are creating a provocation.

lou: a provocation, not the first, certainly, crimea, eastern ukraine. some relatively strong signals of a threat to the balkan states as well, particularly estonia, and now this, where it is an incursion. the russians deny that. but putin also said pretty clearly there's going to be retaliation, just a question of form, what do you expect the russian president to do? >> i think more likely it will be economic rather than military. the russians sell a huge proportion of their gas to turkey. they're working on a gas pipeline together. i think that pipeline may be at risk now. the flip side of it is, it also would create a tremendous economic loss for russia to lose turkey as a customer. i think we might see the russians retaliate in that regard. they might provide further support to the kurds. they've had a history of relationships with the kurdish

tribes, this would send erdogan into orbit if the russians try to quietly assist the kurds in an area where the turks are very concerned. lou: you know, the absurdities begin to compound themselves in this situation. the fact that russia would be allied with iran and syria, bashar al-assad, while at the same time then lining up with the kurds, which the united states has refused to support with significant weaponry and ordnance. if the russians were to do so, it would again be -- forgive the expression -- a trump card in the states that they look like they are inept to playing? >> we've been reactive. this idea of leading from behind isn't leading at all, and i think they've given putin initiative here. he overplayed his hand.

he is operating out of weakness. the reason he came into syria in the first place is because bashar al-assad is losing. he's isolating himself from the sunni arab countries throwing in with bashar al-assad and iran. i think the saudis, the emirates and others are not going to take kindly to this and hurt his relations in the middle east perhaps more than it helps. lou: but against that, that algorithm, there is that of president obama and his rather ambiguous policies in the region, to the point that we seem to have zero influence with even our allies whether it be saudi arabia, kuwait, jordan, or israel? >> that's an important point, lou. i think this administration has lost all credibility with all sides, has looked weak from day one. unable to cobble together any kind of a coalition, and i think the silence from the

sunni arabs is deafening right now. lou: ambassador robert jordan, good to see you, thanks so much. >> thanks, lou. lou: be sure to vote in our poll tonight -- we'd like to hear from you. cast your vote at loudobbs.com. and follow me -- traditional skydiving is certainly an adrenaline rush, but apparently too little so for one adrenaline junkie. watch as this finnish daredevil throws caution to the wind along with his parachute, there he goes. he jumped from a hot air balloon in nothing but a pair of shorts and goggles. eventually for his sake, very fortunately, he links up with

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. lou: a few thoughts now on today's meeting between president obama and french president hollande. the president blathered on for the better part of what was an hour-long joint press conference and an ordeal was endured by all. the president listless, unfocused, lost in his self-indulgent examination of the obvious. the president could only muster

this as a reason to ignore the islamic state while cracking crab with other leaders at the climate change summit while apparently hoping against hope the islamic state would die of co2 poisoning or envy of the worlds gathered in paris. >> next week i will be joining president hollande and world leaders in paris for the global climate conference. what a powerful rebuke for the terrorists it will be, when the world stands as one and shows we will not be deterred from building a better future for our children. lou: what a powerful rebuke to the terrorists? can you imagine the islamic state jihadists holding back their tears of inadequacy as lopped heads roll across the seas of syria and iraq, he

equates fighting climate change to fighting islamic terrorists. for fear of offending, and in private only laughs at global warming than the imprecise global climate change and much less contentious. he warned graduates of both our coast guard academy and west point, that climate change is the biggest deal of all, never mind the islamic state, which he also maintains isn't islamic. >> climate change constitutes a serious threat to global security. an immediate risk to our national security, and make no mistake, it will impact how our military defends our country. >> that spirit of cooperation needs to energize the global effort to combat climate change. a creeping national security crisis that will help shape your time in uniform. lou: if you listen carefully there, you can hear a lot of

al gore in mr. obama's tone, the president with a little of the wild eyed day after tomorrow meets inconvenient truths. but we need mr. obama to drop the al gore act and try out his best impression of general patton. he did it once, he sound so good 14 months ago, didn't he? you remember when president obama said he would, quote, degrade and ultimately destroy the islamic state. good stuff. if only he meant it or kept the patton up, up a couple of years longer. there was a will, a promise, ultimately a time and opportunity. today we're no closer to degrading and destroying the islamic state than when the president found his general patton voice momentarily and it was fleeting. today, watching the white house press conference i wondered whether the french president shuddered as mr. obama offered up a climate change convention

in paris as a strong rebuke to the terrorists who had murdered scores of his countrymen, wounded hundreds of his citizens? i wonder still that president obama could create such an equivalency in his mind, let alone utter the idea aloud. mr. obama has become, i believe, what he has created over seven years in the white house. he has become our national cipher. the quotation of the evening from bernard baruch on such ciphers who never seem to learn. he says -- we can only hope. we're coming right back. the gop establishment is

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lou: joining us now, lachlan markay, author, columnist, fox news contributor jedidiah bila. start jedidiah with you, looks like cruz is making a strong move, well behind in the national polls to front-runner donald trump, but making a big move in iowa. >> yes, and we predicted this right here on the show. we talk about it a lot. talked about the fact that conservatives are looking for someone that's reliable. that potentially wasn't ben carson or donald trump. donald trump and ben carson have a tendency to make a lot of mistakes. tendency to say things that leaves people saying are they serious? can they be president? can we trust them if there was a hot button national security issue? the fact of the matter is ted cruz is probably the smartest guy of the room. he gives evangelicals a lot of confidence, taps into the conservative base, if you look at twitter, talk radio. look at mark leffin, people who conservatives look to and say.

lou: you go through all of that and come up with mark laveen? lou: how about rush limbaugh? >> i say mark because he's a friend of mine. hi, mark. people look to reliable conservatives and say who is this person -- lou: i love this reliable conservatives. do you agree? lachlan? >> the republican party is pretty splintered right now. if you see trump shooting up in the polls and i think he's taking a lot of support that ben carson is losing right now. i think that might speed the sort of the establishment coalescing around alternative. whether that's rubio or christie or bush. lou: you don't think they've done that, it looks like cause and effect out there to me, lachlan, looks like we're seeing strong support for

rubio, strong support for cruz. bush, he's ebbing very quickly, and that is a coalition that's built of the establishment, the establishment and the establishment. >> well, i think once you start seeing sort of a winnowing of the field, and people have been whispering about jeb bush dropping out for a few weeks now. if that were to happen, that would really shake things up and you'd see a lot of support in terms of votes and money and delegates and high-profile endorsements. you would see that lining up behind rubio pretty quickly. lou: i wonder if endorsements are going to help or hurt this year. we're looking at an electorate that's had a bellyful of establishment professional politicians and rubio's name rings like a bell. >> no one cares about that. lou: they don't? >> no, it's true, though. lou: jedidiah, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, i get it.

i know you love rubio. >> no! but i -- lou: i have to insist that we look at reality here. >> reality of what? lou: we cannot dismiss it with a wave of our wands. >> that's what i'm saying, i'm saying the bigtime donors, the bigtime cash, they're not going to predict this election. lou: oh, okay, so we're agreeing, okay. >> you got so distracted thinking i liked marco rubio, he had to crack a joke. do i like marco rubio by the way. lou: so it's no joke? >> no, i think it's going to be an interesting -- my prediction is a marco rubio versus ted cruz really fierce debate coming to the forefront, and i think conservatives have to choose and the establishment will fight hard for marco rubio because they believe he's the more electable guy. whether or not he can get out of a primary remains to be seen. ted cruz is a force to be reckoned with. >> if the establishment pick is rubio, conservatives have a good election cycle ahead of

them. i think rubio's a conservative one, more so than mitt romney. >> talk to them about immigration. if you look at immigration or -- >> can i ask one question here? >> yeah, it is your show. lou: i don't want to intrude, but doipt to know what happened to donald trump in this, the front-runner who has overwhelming support in a plurality here in this field. you both dismissed him. i wonder what happened to him, lachlan? >> i think he's got a high floor of support in the sense that he's got very wide name recognition and his style appeals to a lot of people. i think he's got a low ceiling and i think a lot of the bombastic things he said have turned off a lot of people who weren't supporting them. he wasn't the first choice to begin with but i can't see them coming around to support him. i don't know if he has broad enough appeal to lock up the

delegates he's going to need. lou: he's always ahead in every state by a substantial margin, with the exception of iowa. >> i think if he continues this pattern with the retweets he gets on television and says he didn't look up, i think he will be viewed less sturdy and less reliable and the ted cruz's and marco rubio's will steal his thunder. lou: lachlan hits the floor when you say trump and you think of a distant cloud. jedidiah bila, lachlan markay, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. lou: a major milestone in the world of commercial spaceflight, this is exciting. company founded by amazon's jeff bezos blue origin successfully launched a rocket into space and this is the incredible part, landed it safely back on earth. and in so doing, bezos buy the elon musk's spacex corporation also trying to build a reusable

rocket that can land safely, look at this. look at this. this is an incredible fete, ladies and gentlemen. relanding the rocket. cutting all of those costs of the booster, on space travel. bezos says if all goes well, blue origin could begin commercial suborbital flights in 2017. congratulations jeff bezos and blue origin, a remarkable fete. up next, turkey downs a russian warplane kick off a diplomatic scramble, and china's military makes a big move. we'll take all of that up with ambassador john bolton and how foolish do we look not influencing events seemingly anywhere in the world? we'll be right back. stay with us. i am totally blind.

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largest united states base in africa. some coincidence? joining us john bolton, fox news contributor. john, great to see you. this is a remarkable move, everybody is talking like it's another day at the track. but this is quite a little deal for china to build in djibouti? >> it's stunning, and of all the examples you get of what happens when american leadership declines, this is really one of the most remarkable. as you rightly said, we have a major naval facility, there so do the french. and if the reports in the press are accurate, it looks like the chinese will be using a military docking facility that we built. so what this means is apparently the administration's not telling the djibouti government how the world works, and they should have told the chinese go find some other nice country to build your base in. this is not just something that

enhances china's presence in the region. this is a direct shot. everybody will read it that way. lou: is the state department, the national security adviser, are they all out of their minds in this administration? i mean do, they do anything when they go to work other than throw their hands up and watch? i mean seriously! >> unfortunately they all work for the president, and i'm sure -- lou: this is all his idea? wait a minute. he can't have this many bad ideas, no mortal could have this many bad ideas all by himself. >> you're too much of an optimist, lou, i think he can have that many bad ideas and i think this is one of them. absolutely. this goes with a new chinese naval facility recently agreed with pakistan, right on the eastern edge of the middle east. barack obama is letting them do it. lou: let's turn to turkey and syria and russia. shooting down, shooting down a

russian jet fighter seems to be way down on the list of things that perhaps turkey might have considered doing. what's going to be the outcome here? >> well, i think that the immediate response will be that vladimir putin will absolutely pound the syrian opposition forces that were right along the turkish border there. i think this is another excuse for him to continue what is really at the root of this effort, not just bolstering the assad regime in syria but trying to be the external force in the middle east replacing the united states. the turks, who have played a pro-islamist game here the past few years have been brought down to recognition of history. the russians are now on the other side of them. not just facing across the black sea, and this is the kind of wake-up call they've needed for several years. lou: this as erdogan has pushed turkey into a sectarian nation,

an islamist nation, all without comment from this administration. >> right, exactly. turkey i think now is beginning to remember it is a nato ally. i hold turkey responsible for a lot of the refugee crisis in europe. i think they allowed or encourage or helped refugees coming out of the camps on their border, sort of exporting them into greece across europe. turkey needs to get its act together here. this may be an opportunity to make them do it. lou: when played for fools, you have to blame the fools we became, it seems, less than those more adroit. ambassador, always good to see you. >> thank you, lou. lou: if you're one of the 47 million americans hitting the road this thanksgiving. a reminder to be careful, some drivers will not be. newly released video out of canada, a dump truck driver

forgot to put down the dump, causing him to hit a power line and flip over. narrowly missed a car, stopped at the light. fortunately no one was hurt, the truck driver was charged with reckless driving. i wonder why? don't be one of those, and a safe happy thanksgiving to you. up next, the aclu sues the state of indiana because the governor doesn't want syrian refugees in his state. we'll talk about that. the texas kid who triggered a bomb scare with his home made clock wants money! his family wants millions of dollars! what do you figure, the school district oblige? doubt it. we'll take up the case with lis wiehl and rebecca rose woodland. it only gets better. man!

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lou: the american civil liberty seen about a lawsuit against indiana governor mike pence. aclu challenging his efforts to block syrian refugees from settling within his state supporters. pat's office supporters. patents office respond supporters. pat's office responded with a statement saying quote indiana will not reverse course until the administration and congress take action to pause this implement measures necessary to address security gaps acknowledged by the fbi and the department of homeland security.

and that muslim student who was arrested over home a clock that was mistaken for a bomb in a school is now seeking $50 million in damages from texas officials. in letters to the school in irving at the school district attorneys saying the eighth-grader was wrongfully arrested and illegally retained questioned about his parents and the list goes on. joining us "fox news" legal analyst defense attorney rebecca rose wallin. rebecca let's start first with the aclu in indiana. where did they get the standing? i understand that the federal government were to sue or if they were to seek an injunction, whatever. what in the world is the aclu standing? >> hear the aclu is representing a group of people that places the syrian refugees and they say they are unable now to place these refugees because the governor has halted all the activity, along with other governors.

the governor is concerned with public safety as our 18 other governors in other states. 30 others have taken provisions. so we do have a lot of action on this issue. it's something that obama needs to address. lou: wait a minute let's go back to the aclu. where does the aclu get off suing someone? where do they get their standing? >> there are representing a group of people. lou: wait the people are under the control of the federal. >> governors cannot legally block refugees. now, what they are trying to bring up here because we are trying to circumvent this thing there's a public safety issue that trump this 1980 act. that's where the legalities will come head-to-head. >> they can't roll back the state's rights under the constitution. >> verde did. >> that doesn't mean it will be upheld by the supreme court doesn't it?

has been challenged? >> we have refugees who have nowhere to be placed so there is an issue that is more pressing waiting for the supreme court and is what happens and do they go to a state that is not blocking a? i don't know. i doesn't seem very there. lou: as usual obama creates these situations. this president you have to ask yourself at the end of the day two in the dickens is he working for? in the nicest way possible. it causes conflict. >> it causes some kind of terrorist action but the concern is the refugees that are coming and might be posing as refugees and they might be terrorists. lou: all of the people have lost jobs because of illegal

immigration outsourcing of jobs. they are going to take up a body that's not being represented but they represent the whole middle class because they can't get representation? >> how long do you wait -- want to wait without luke though? you will be holding off on your turkey for that one. >> wasn't obama the answer to the middle-class? lou: hope and change. everybody's doing great in there having fun and they're in a nice warm fuzzy balmy place and now they want $50 million from the poor folks in dallas. >> the detention really was horrible. he was detained for hours and he was told that he had to confess or that he would be expelled. you're talking about a kid who is an underage child. the parents were called. there is liability. 15 million? no.

>> that's false imprisonment. lou: the second part of it as if my kid takes that contraption to school and doesn't think it's going to create some sort of sensation. >> wait a minute, but this is the problem. lou: it's the first time he did this, this little darling. >> but it wasn't a bomb. lou: aren't clock supposed to be miniaturized? put all those wires together. are you kidding? >> the other thing is if they hadn't done something and it was a bomb. then you'd have the other liability. >> no attorney present. lou: think about it, this is what the middle-class. thank you very much. rebecca rose would thank you very much. in our on line poll 85% you say you don't think there's any way

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