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a maybe work from home. i love the fact there's no traffic. rebecca, you run a big business and most people come in. >> there's a hybrid schedule and that's a great thing and it's their entitlement and their expect it and their right not to work from the house on fridays and it's not your right. >> as a remote employee, i am going to put that out there. i have an issue with like this whole i'm going to petition my boss and i have a right. that's one thing and one thing i think remote work is important for that no one talks about is especially for women that want to create a family and have that work/life balance and the economy needs more children, just prefer work from home. charles: thank you both very, very much. someone that works from the office every day, liz claman, over to you. liz: oh, tv magic, charles. charles: no, okay. liz: thank you very much.
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breaking news. what a shocker that at the top of the final hour of trade we have breaking news donald trump focusing on american energy in the oval office and going to top moments ago and surrounded by the commerce secretary nominee and transportation secretary and he plans to reverse biden era policy and open up the arctic national wildlife refuge for oil and gas drilling and here's some details and opening up 625 million acres of offshore waters and exploration as well and he's working on new york pipeline and that could bring down energy prices, which we should show you right now to see how they're moving. he granted a license to the commonwealth lng project in louisiana. if you look at oil, and this is west texas intermediate and more
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supply coming on. demand remains the same and goes up if the price goes down and it's down just under 1% in the after market session. look across the state brent, which is the international benchmark. in the regular session, brent closed down about 28-cents and we can see right now it's down even more by 34-cents in the after hours market. looking at these and maybe some green on the screen and exxonmobil and apache and nice move for valero energy up 3% and erg up about a third of a percent and we'll have more details these moves later and forget flowers and candy, and bulls want s&p record for valentine's gift. they don't have it as of yet. it's up 1.25 points and only
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needs three points, just a gain of three points at the close to make it into the history books not there yet. it has been there earlier. so if we look at dow jones industrials at the moment, kind of the same with the nasdaq. nasdaq up 51. feels like this is one of the sessions where the stock stories are fascinating than the index and witness airbnb and home sharing platform sending shareholders quite the valentine and stock enjoying the biggest percent jump in history after a huge bottom line beat better than expected revenues and ceo brian chesky wants the app to be all things traveled and stock moving up 14% and it was only back on january 24th look at this one
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month chart and stock traded at 117 and now at $161. we need to check ai chip giant nvidia versus arm holdings. arm makes blueprints for nvidia and other semiconductor chips and sec filing shows nvidia sold about 900,000 and arm is smarting from the move and nvidia up 4%. arguingly on any other day, arm might be jumping on this headline arm will start making real chips and not just blueprints of chips as early as this summer and meta is the first customer. on pace for 17th straight record close and it's the 20th day of gains. go daddy going south and beat on
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revenues and reported profits of $1.36 per share and far lower than $7.85 coming in with a year ago. why are no fewer than six analysts including morgan, citi and barclays raising price target? the answer may lie in the new ai offerings to small businesses to make them look really big. we'll find out when go daddy ceo joins us in a fox business exclusive, that's coming up. what a week, four days after president trump slapped 25% tariffs on all foreign steel imports and 24 hours after putting off imposing widespread reciprocal tariffs till april, see how the markets look to end the rather volatile week and dow up and s&p gaining 1.5% if we close here and the nasdaq biggest gain up 2.5% and small and mid caps, can't ignore the
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russell 2000 here and they too look like they'll gain for the week. we have that. let's see. russell this week, up just a fraction but green is green. all right, considering investors navigated hotter than expected inflation data and weaker than expected retail sales this week, take it to the floor show to find out how long the market can stay resilient. get right to the floor show, joining me now live from the new york stock exchange, freedom capital markets chief global strategist jay woods and phil bloncato. we didn't get to what the fed chair said about having luxury to hold interest rates where they are versus cutting them. are investors right to forge ahead or ignore warning sign s? >> it's head scratching to ignore bigger warning signs and hot cpi and ppi got us off guard, but we didn't talk about jerome powell and he kept his cool in front of congress and didn't make us get nervous.
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we were able to withstand that initial drop off and yesterday, when donald trump spoke, he wasn't going to initiate tariffs right away and got the attention of us because tariffs has been the number one concern and we're concerned with the inflationary numbers ticking up. let's see where we go from here. underneath the surface, seeing a lot of strength and not the strength for headlines and not the mag 7 names and stapedius muscle les catching a bid. coke and mcdonalds report great earning ands starting to rally this week. that's positive and starbucks making 52-week highs and at and f making 52-week highs and a broadening of the rally and not technology leading the way and they're leading it week. that's a positive sign as well.. liz: they sure are and, phil, auto sales posting a surprise drop and leaders make expensive things using ai and arguably is apple or go into ai and that
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would be global foundries and intel. all though intel is down today and one of the best of the week. assess the power fill of ai to drive market gains this year. >> that's an interesting point and it's everything else except the mag 7 in the past few days and mid cap growth stocks doing well and stocks will be part of the supply chain. making sure there's valuations and all new highs today and who's stuck in the trading range and who's going since early december. looking at sew natural rights approach owe where retail sales are emblematic up and consumer softening and going in a way january, winter and there's time. when you have a hot cpi and cool retail sales number, this mixed bag of data keeping the fed on hold and other places to get better value in the markets and it's not about ai and everything else but the mag 7. can you use ai and other stocks?
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that's your winning bid. liz: look at fed funds futures and earlier this week, first rate cut and out to last quarter of the year or so and september or november but now fed funds futures are showing that june has at least a 50% chance of some type of rate cut at least 25 basis points, jay so i mean, there we go, june, maybe that's the one. does that change anything? >> well, we're digesting this news very well and watch the 10-year. the 10-year looked like it was going to spike and it reversed and reversed yesterday and the 10 year getting back above 4.5% and there's a problem. as far as rates, we've gotten to this point with debate and some going all day long and 50-basis point going for 25 points going afterwards and finding it unnecessary and we're at this where we find balance and going
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for them to look for that taking us higher and i'm curious to see how we close and slow friday and haven't had one of those in a while, can we avoid a friday selloff and down four of the last six if we go negative in the s&p and see if we can get that silver lining new high and watch to see if tech can pick up the slack and that'll come for a week and a half and nvidia reporting and interesting to watch and 10 year to me is the catalyst to take us lower spiking higher and didn't do that. liz: yeah, 10 years down below 4.5%. staying with tech, phil, one of your picks is dell. and dell had big headlines today. it is going to sell like 5 billion of the server products to elon musk's xai to run the server farms and et cetera. but you look at what dell has done and it, again, feels like the stock stories today are more
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important than the picture at 30,000 feet. >> should have had me on yesterday and i would have talked about it and earnings going through next year and maybe a day late and dollar short. i apologize. but a company with double digit earnings growth and thinking about how we have to upgrade our computers to be able to use some of the ai power. just like elon musk and they're a company that has really good -- some better balance sheet and got a lot of cash and potential to grow and this is a great example to like it and retrofitting of them at home and computer at work. they're a big part. liz: looking at sectors and there's two that are hitting records and financials xlf and the communications and excel record highs and those continue to gain and are they the good plays to get in now for the
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highs. >> the financials and you talk about the biggest financials in jp morgan, gol gol goldman sachd morgan stanley and look at bank of america, following in the wings and wells fargo led and the ice and top of stock exchange and breaking out new highs and visa and mastercard and going for them and it's not just the big banks and major financials and they're there to run and going to pick up and there's a nice tail wind and financials to connect to leave this market and it's good leadership when we're stacking overall. liz: so i completely disagree with you, jay. it is not a quiet friday. it is not a quiet friday. really quick though, we've got to run. >> yeah, take a look at center point energy. if you like the trump trade and the idea of pulling up energy
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and l liquefied natural gas, that's your winner. liz: nat gas is roaring ahead, 2.67% and over the past three months, it has gained something like 25%. i mean, it's just been going crazy and we'll be watching it all, jay and phil, thank you and have a great weekend. happy valentine's day and it's up 1% and warren buffett's berkshire athl athl hathaway dea punch and it's down -- berkshire hathaway and that and many when the claman countdown returns not on a boring quiet friday, on a huge busy friday. ♪ where ya headed? susan: where am i headed? am i just gonna take what the markets gives me? no. i can do some research. ya know, that's backed by j.p. morgan's leading strategists like us. when you want to invest with more confidence... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management
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liz: president trump talked about steele and the president saying if japanese steel maker nipon steel took a stake in u.s. steel, when he said in the past he was against, it "might not be so bad". nipon is looking at investment including debt in u.s. steel and could be a real power house again. intraday picture and we had u.s. steel earlier at low of the session and 23409 a huge low and $37.64.
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nipon moving -- nippon moving higher. the company announced a flood of new business during the fourth quarter and the platform added 4 million new households during the quarter ending 2024 with a total of 89.8 million and that's a 12% year over year increase. roku streaming hours saw a significant boost and try 18% year over year in the final quarter and the company plans to reach 100 million households in the next year. roku came in with narrower than expected quarterly loss and stock up about 14%. did you get your invitation? apple is getting a boost up 1% after ceo tim cook teased a new product lake and have it was a -- launch and it was a cryptic message and meet the newest member of the family.
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wednesday, february 19th and rumors on the street are it could be the next generation of iphone se, which hasn't seen a makeover since 2022. look at shares of apple, over the week, there's been a really big week here up 7.25%. nice move for apple. and devito is falling and one of the biggest losers on the s&p 500 after berkshire hathaway sold hundreds of shares. the sale was required under the sharing purchase agreement to reduce berkshire's ownership stake to 45%. devita has 80 million shares outstanding and buffet's stake of 89.5 million and worth $84 billion and losing steam and stock down and kid nee care company reported a fourth quarter top and bottom line beat and forecast full year guidance
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blow what the street was expecting. buffet may be the granddaddy of investors, go daddy might be considering the god father of small businesses and in it is push to jump start startups, go daddy is jumping onto ai train. godaddy rolling out ai plan to help the small bis clients look like big time bosses and godaddy ceo aman bhutani here next.
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liz: godaddy jumped on board the ai train with the new tool arrow about to mark it is first official year and designed to help small businesses dramatically expand internet presence and actor walton shield
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using it grow his goggle business in the super bowl ad. >> we have the power to convince the word we know what we're doing. when in fact, we do not. >> i can make you think i'm a detective without stepping foot in an actual crime scene. these symbols symbolize something. houston, i'm observing debris from uranus. small business owner because i have idea what i'm doing. godaddy arrow does using ai to build logo, website and official contact. liz: godaddy's first super bowl ad in eight years. it's great; right, but it's been a tough earnings day. the report came in last night and the stock is tanking.
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down about 13.6%. godaddy beat on revenue and reported a fourth quarter loss and went south to about $# 36.9 billion and a -- $936.9 billion and that's a price firm target raise and some citing the godaddy special arrow in the ai quiver. get to godaddy ceo aman bhutani. it's a rough day for the stock, aman, what do you want to tell investors that are bearish on the stock? >> godaddy had a fantastic quarter and grew booking ands people look quarter over quarter and year over year, they can be timing things and look at north star of the company and investor
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day targets we are at or ahead in every financial measure and look at piece of execution of the company and it is just fantastic and i'm excited and our teams are excited and going to extend the views of what we have. liz: if you bought it a year ago, up 90%, folks. one qua quarter and people lookt number of year over year for profits, it came way down. what was the one time issue or at least explain to investors that happened? >> yeah, you know, there was a one time change in q4 last year, but what we really focus on as a company is free cash flow and normalize profitabilities and, liz, we've grown normalized 900 tips since 2020.
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we've grown free cash flow and it's doubled in that time frame. we have a target of $4.5 billion in free cash flow in 2024-2026 and we're ahead. it's across every metric and longer period of time and doing really well and over two to three years and over five years and look ahead for where we're going and we just decided to another year of double digit growth and we feel very good about where we are and we're seeing innovation like arrow and setting the rights for long term cause for the company and adding value for customers and shareholders. liz: that's what i want to talk about airo, spelled a-i-r-o and that's bigger than being in a garage. that was a great commercial i
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must say. give me a sense of how it's performed and what's the customer adoption since you launched it. >> what does it look like buying an airo doe mane. you buy a domain and airo builds a one page website and create as logo. automateically creates a social media post and e-mails to send to customers and i'll give you example of a customer that messaged me directly. this customer is working with nonprofit in africa and giving them awareness in the u.s. and involving the domain for them and airo created website on free marketing shields and he was blown away and sent a message that i can't believe i filed a domain and ready to get started and at the start line already. that's what we want from
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customers. we want them to start with us on the higher hill and all these things in place and they're social and domain and one page website just because they can't have godaddy and entrepreneurs jump starting. liz: making a chihuahua look like a great dane for business. liz: these are primarily small businesses and give me a sense of what the small business sentiment is in the country. >> small business owners even if the economy, they're not so optimistic it's going to make things work. woe see a bit of tentativeness from customers but if you ask them about their business and ask them about how they feel and what they're going to do, they're positive they want to go make it happen and we continue
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to see the settler trends of entrepreneurship and technology hoping micro-businesses and calling them micro-businesses and not small businesses because these are very, very small businesses and a third of them is only one person in the business. they've got to make it happen. liz: wondering what walton g goggins doing since that commercial. >> i have them as well. these are the walton goggins goggles and i have them and his sales are through the roof.
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liz: it's great to see you, aman. thank you for coming on. it's a tough guy. this is the kind of ceo out here and future and promise investors for the coming year. thanks so much. >> that's right. thank you for having me, liz. liz: any time. team trump trying to find a peaceful solution to russia's war in ukraine. going straight to the white house for details on it is talks with ukrainian rieder zelensky and a few crossed wires in the process. and the fragile ceasefire between hamas and israel appear toss be holding as more hostages are set to be released. the former spokesman for the idf giving us the update on the organizations and whether trump's gaza redevelopment plan might work. claman countdown coming right back.
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liz: break news, rare earth stocks are dipping at the moment. we do have np materials lower and falling for the third% and down nearly 6% and that may be because it's taking a little longer than anticipated for the u.s. and ukraine to hammer out a deal. one that would open ukraine's rare earth operations to u.s. investment opportunities and senior ukrainian official telling fox today it was "a very good meeting between ukrainian president slow myrrh zelensky and jd vance. they met in munich and president trump has been vocal about wanting $500 billion in rare earth materials from kyiv like lithium and nickel in exchange
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for helping to fund the country's war against russia. joining us now from the white house because he is back here on u.s. soil is edward lawrence. what did you learn on this trip? reporter: i'm surprised it deal has not already been signed and might be a bit of art of the deal we're seeing because when we were there, president zelensky stressed the need for more weapons and stressed the expense of firing off a $7 million patriot missile in defense of his country and president trump energy is at the core of his administration and going for them to be so important and sent treasury secretary scott bessent to kyiv in order to personally deliver that economic proposal to president zelensky and i was the only reporter with him on that trip on wednesday. there's a deal, the deal is is a partnership with the u.s. and here's what vice president jd vance said in his meeting today with zelensky. listen to this. >> we want the killing to stop, but we want to achieve a durable
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lasting peace and not the kind of peace that will have eastern europe in conflict just a couple of years down the road. we have a number of good conversations about how we might accomplish that together. reporter: the proposal over mining rare earth minerals and oil and natural gas and infrastructure a percent of the profits to the u.s. and rest to ukraine. i recorded a little about this on wednesday in kyiv. listen to this. as i stand in kyiv, the treasury secretary says this deal will be an investment, a peace of mind for the ukrainians so that americans have not left them. also, this is not alone like many of the european countries are offering, but an investment in ukraine to rebuild it together. reporter: the sticking point for ukrainian president is guarantees for more money for weapons. here's zelensky today. >> going before and the support of president trump and we have
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good conversation today and really what we need to speak more and work more and to prepare the plan and continue the work. we really want this very much. we need real security guarantees. reporter: security guarantees is what they are stressing. this is a economic deal that the trump administration wants to do, and the trump administration, president trump believes it shows the ukrainians will protect their interests in ukraine and have a long standing relationship. so, liz, we'll have to see. they'd like to have had it signed by today and doesn't look like that's going to happen. liz: okay, feels like it's in the process today and going for them and step by step inching a bit closer to it and trying to hold out for guarantees and money for weapons and administration wants to make this deal and going to solidify peace in that region.
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liz: thank you very much. peace in ukraine remains illusive and going for the four week deal going for hamas to appear holding at this hour and hamas is set to release three more hostages on saturday including one israeli american and they'll release 369 palestinian prisoners and will mark the sixth hostage exchange since the ceasefire went into effect january 19th and earlier this week, it appeared that president trump made this demand. >> as far as i'm concerned, if all the hostages aren't returned by saturday at 12:00, that's an appropriate time, i would say cancel it and all bets are off, and let hell break out. all of them. not in drips and drabs and two
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and one and three and four and two. saturday at 12:00. liz: threats pushed negotiators back to the table and israel agreeing to stick to the original plan and hamas said us too. release of three hostages tomorrow in exchange for more palestinian prisoners, but it was drips -- it's still drips and drabs. former idf spokesperson and senior fellow at defense of democracies. jonathan, first of all, thank you very much for coming onto talk about this. you've got to give us a sense of how somebody that's lived and breathed idf looks at what nearly happened. but people were going for that and it's the whole thing going off the rails and going back on track. >> yes, thank you for having me. pleasure as always. and i think it's a matter of time, sadly, till hamas makes
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ultimate decision going to release israeli hostages and now we don't know when hamas will do that, but i think we have come very, very close this time and tomorrow morning hours in israel in about ten hours, we'll know if hamas really was impressed by the warnings of the u.s. president and if they really are handing over hostages, it appears they will do so, but sadly with 76 israeli hostages left in hamas captivity including americans and other nationalities, we fear for their lives. we fear that hamas will stop returning them, and that will return the entire region, specifically gaza and israel, into war because then israel will have nothing stopping it from actually going back and finishing off hamas. liz: can you help americans understand how this is even
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fair. three hostage tangerines at a time, who -- hostages at a time, who were stolen from their homes and most civilians, under gunfire, murder, bloodshed everywhere and yet the exchange involves hundreds and hundreds of palestinians in prison for crimes each time. >> no, it isn't fair. it's like being held at gunpoint. that's what israel is and for many months israel tried to defeat hamas and was prevented by various factors and today we have hamas as the de facto ruler of gaza and they still are going to v hold israeli hostages and in order to get them out, it's going to be agreeing to the terms and it's in the situation but it's as horrible that we're seeing in the state coming from them and it's recommending and coming back to look like
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holocaust survivors and really sent a collective sense of rage throughout israel to see israeli civilians coming back looking like they did. what i think is in store eventually is for israel to try to get as many hostages out by the deal and once hamas violates the agreement, then to go back and hopefully this time with presidential backing and get the job done. liz: president trump threw out the idea a couple days ago of taking over gaza and turning into the "riviera of the middle east". what do you make of that man and king of -- plan and king of jordan visited the whites house and head of egypt coming as well. doesn't really sound like jordan is interested in opening its boarders to 2 million palestinian refugees. how realistic do you -- somebody that's lived in worked with idf see that plan
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being? >> it's a very important plan because it shifts the entire discussion, and it really shadows a lot of taboos and disrupts the understandings that we've been working along for around 76 or 100 years. i think it's very refreshing and it puts a new perspective on this almost age old conflict, and hopefully it'll infuse new ideas and maybe one day we'll actually get peace and security in israel and we'll stop having jihady terrorists attacking us. i don't think jordan is the key here. jordan is far away, for the away, and they don't have historical ties with gaza. egypt has and egypt bares a lot of responsibility for the inability, suffering and violence in the gaza strip. egypt could have stoved this by allowing palestinians out in the beginning of the war but they
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didn't and they've been cruel to palestinians and pressure on egypt to do the right thing i hope and allow gaza to be rebuilt and have stability and prosperity. liz: we'll wait ten more hours for the hostages to come home, including father of three kids. jonathan conr icu s, thank you, lieutenant colonel. >> thank you so much. liz: app and will google restoring tiktok to u.s. app stores last night. what prompted the tech giants to bring the chinese-owned vizio platform -- video platform back and what does it mean for tiktok's future? charlie breaks it, next.o) ♪ w places you can go... but also the people who welcome you home. it's not about living like a star... but about feeling like one. rich measures life in laugh lines...
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♪ ♪ if. liz: aww, it's valentine's day. we tease because we love. we did the hallmark if charlie gasparino gave us yesterday in the show when we were talking about a sensitive the issue of aging ceos. while wreaking the story that 72-year-old blackrock ceo larry fink has no plans to retire, charlie gasparino said this -- >> every board has to have a succession plan in its back pocket. but from what i understand at 72, he's going nowhere fast, and
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he's not the oldest ceo -- liz: no. warren buffett is 95. so he's got 222 more years -- >> but, listen, he's the second oldest, isn't he? liz. liz: i don't think. >> who else? public company. liz: i don't know. if you'd given me the homework, i would have done it. >> i did. who else? liz: larry fink is the second oldest ceo? >> absolutely. ing jamie's in his late 60s. brian moynihan, 64. but he's not in his 70s. bear stearns used to have the oldest, but i'm telling you, he -- i'll eat my hat if he's not the second oldest. [laughter] liz: turns out, there are more than a dozen fortune 500 ceos and, yes, people in the financial services who are older than larry fink including, well or, we've got everybody from pensky's autos, roger penske,
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capital one's richard a fairbank, disney's bob iger, and not to to forget, our good friend mario gabelli of the the ga a mco funds. your choice to, balsamic or barbecue sauce. i've got the hat, and i've got the sauce. >> eat the hat. liz: i'm going to make you eat the hat. [laughter] >> eat the hat, eat, eat the hat. they're eating the cogs, they're eating the hats. i couldn't help myself. liz: many older hand larry. [laughter] -- than larry. >> well, i was right about the financial sector, he's the oldest -- liz: no, you weren't. schwartzman -- >> no, big banks. liz: richard a fairbank of capital one and mario gabelli. there are a lot of them. >> i guess 70's the new 60? i feel good being 63 now.
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liz: okay. [laughter] let's get to tiktok. >> eat the hat, eat, eat the hat. liz we get it. >> i'm eating the -- you see, you got me going now. i can't stop. tiktok is, like, literally the story that never ends. you know, i think on "the claman countdown" i broke the story in 2020 the that trump was forcing tiktok to essentially be sold. he wanted them off u.s. apps. it never happened. it was at the end of his administration. trump won. and microsoft was in there, you know, essentially doing the due diligence, doing real deal work. they were trying to do a deal. that's 2020. and so now we're in 2025, and we're back to square one. again, this is a difficult deal, liz. it's not going to be cheap. remember, the chinese own it, that's why there's so much controversy. people think the chinese are stealing the data that that's on
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, that is scrubbing the data the that's on on the finish that people, essentially is users give as they use the algorithm. if there's lots of spy craft stuff that you could do. it's going to cost money even if you don't sell the algorithm. you've got to create your own algorithm, so we're talking about a $30-50 billion deal. private equity the funds have that money. steve schwarzman, the 77-year-old -- [laughter] has that money, probably. i don't think he's going there though. but, you know, you gotta convince the chinese to even sell that part. and i'll tell ya, i have not heard -- i just keep hear aing, every now and then i hear another name pop up. trump talked about, and we broke the story again on "the claman countdown" that he might do a u.s. sovereign wealth fund that buys, it, right in we were talking about that. so, again, the rubber meets the
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road. this 75-day extension has got to be up very soon is. i mean, you know, he said -- he gave it on january 20th. i mean, it's not quite february 20th, but, you know, this thing is counting down, and that's not a long time to do a deal. put me in the camp that i think this thing goes dark the at some point. i just don't think anybody wants it. everybody who wanted -- like, the hassle of doing it is just -- liz: okay. >> -- i don't know, i'd rather eat my hat. eat, eat the hat. eat, eat, the hat. liz: charlie, don't laugh. i've got the barbecue sauce and the hat. you're going to eat it. that'll do it for us. here go the market bells, and we look to see the s&p too close to call, but it is the not a record at least at the moment. dow down 164, nasdaq up 82. we will see -- ♪ larry: hello, folks. welcome to "kudlow."

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