criminal or felon? good point. thanks to everybody who responded. >> everybody have a great day. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> have a wonderful day. >>gretchen: we plan on it. good morning everybody. it's wednesday, april 3, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing part of your day with us today. president obama heads to colorado to push gun control today, but will his ideas do anything or are they just a distraction from what he doesn't want americans focused on? i have to find out what that is. wait until you hear it. >>steve: shocking new video surfacing of rutgers head basketball coach mike rice shoving and tkpwhrabing his players, even -- and grabbing his players, even throwing basketballs at him. now many are asking whether that coach should keep his job at rutgers? we've got the very latest. >>brian: you should ultimately decide. you're from new jersey. guys, live it up while you can. scientists say we're living on borrowed time and the

extension of men has already started. pass the gin and tonic. "fox & friends" starts right now. >>steve: if today is the last day, i'm going out with a bang. >>gretchen: there's a lot of stories in our headlines that i can hardly wait to hear about, including the one brian is going to be doing with lou holtz coming up about whether or not college sports players who are on scholarship getting a free ride completely, should they be paid? >>brian: i haven't gotten yelled at in a while so it will be tkpwhraod to -- good to have lou holtz scream at me at 6:50 in the morning. the e-mails went crazy in the morning. lou holtz should weigh in. he's grabbed a few guys by

the face mask in football to get their attention. i'm watching the rutgers coach. that's over the top. >>gretchen: i was also thinking bobby knight. >>brian: bobby knight's done a fraction of what we saw in that practice. >>gretchen: he was usually throwing chairs. >>brian: i think he kicked his son once. >>steve: this video very embarrassing. we've got the latest on the situation in rutgers and so much more. let's start with a manhunt. >>gretchen: the search is on for two inmates on the run this morning. brian allen tucker and john king managed to break out of a jail in texas by tampering with a fence in a recreation yard. yesterday police found their jail uniforms. they were on railroad tracks. both men are believed to be wearing only t-shirts and boxers. one was awaiting trial on a capital murder charge. >> new details about the man suspected of killing a prison chief.

it took a parole officer five days to check on him. these details coming one day after we found out that ebel was let out of prison early because of a clerical mistake. he was killed in a shootout with police in texas. >> a guy doing what made him the star of a controversial reality show, tearing through mud in a truck. his uncle and a friend found dead apparently now of carbon dioxide poisoning. authorities say the 21-year-old's ford bronco got stuck in mud. they believe toxic fumes from the truck were unable to escape through the tail pipe. mtv has suspended shooting the show's second season. celebrity hackers struck again exposing the financial secrets of six more victims including angelina jolie, lady gaga and wayne la pierre. the hackers were briefly shut down after releasing personal information of nearly 40 other big-name

celebrities and political figures. the site now back up and running apparently based on a french island in the indian ocean. those are your headlines. >>steve: all right. >>brian: if you're looking for the president, he is going to be making a couple of speeches. he's going to weave in fund-raising. he'll be denver today and talking about guns and be in connecticut on monday to try again to pressure lawmakers to go ahead and push his gun legislation. >>gretchen: they already passed it there. why bother? >>brian: he wants to sell it on a federal level. in colorado he'll meet with the local law enforcement and community leader and say you've got to get background checks, get assault weapons ban. in the big picture, is anything being presented now that would have prevented aurora? presented gabby giffords getting shot? would have praoepbted newtown? if you -- would have prevented newtown? if you look at what's being presented, not really. >>gretchen: why bother. i live in connecticut.

they passed some of the toughest gun regulations in the nation. so did colorado. in colorado you can no longer have high-capacity magazines. you have to have a universal background check on gun transfers. that is prompting a lot of gun manufacturers there to say they might leave the state and take away business. number two, a lot of hunting goes on in colorado. i think it is third next to south dakota and another state in the same region. now those hunting conventions coming up in july and june, they are all canceling them there. there are bigger issues here at hand. the biggest one to me is why the president going to these states where what he wants has already happened? >>steve: he's aougs -- using those states as a background, look what they did in colorado and connecticut as the senate gets ready to do something on gun control on capitol hill. if he was really serious -- and all the democrats on capitol hill about doing something about gun control -- where is the mental health component? nothing they have talked about so far -- and they are talking about passing deals with mental health.

what is the president doing? why is he going to colorado? why is he going to connecticut to talk about guns? is it perhaps to distract people from the number-one thing that most americans are worried about, and that is jobs. or maybe they are worried about europe or maybe they are worried about those north korean soldiers shooting at paper targets of american soldier. there's a lot going on in this country but instead of dealing with jobs and things like that, the president is taking air force one at $180,000 an hour out to colorado and then to connecticut to push for guns, which ultimately would not have changed anything that happened at sandy hook. >>brian: one thing i did like is the n.r.a. said something a lot of us here have said is if you want to address what happened in newtown, you can address guns but you can also address school security. the n.r.a. put $1 million in to get a private firm to put together something that would enhance school security in our country. i think that is a

foundation for dialogue. >>gretchen: the biggest thing for me is this is an issue worth discussing, just like north korea is and jobs and the economy. but the promise was that it was going to be all encompassing. and that, to me, is the troubling aspect of this. where is the discussion about the mental health, as steve brings up? if you look at any of these mass shootings, that is at the heart of the discussion for these issues. and i just don't see any broad discussions about that comprehensive nature of gun control that they promised at the beginning. >>steve: if it's not going to do anything ultimately to affect aurora and also sandy hook and also arizona, it does look like a distraction what he's doing today. >>brian: although they have mental health as a prospect with background checks, where you would not pass if you had a problem. and perhaps in aurora it would have happened because he was seeing three different therapists, all thought he was dangerous. >>steve: meanwhile let's

talk a little bit about this. i mentioned that air force one costs $180,000 an hour. that is something a lot of people are talking about these days ever since the sequester kicked in and the white house said we've got enough money for this but not enough for that. yesterday it was rather tense tweens jay carney and -- tense between jay carney and ed henry. henry was calling into question what the secretary of homeland security said presequester. you take 5,000 agents away, america will be less safe. here's the ying and yang from yesterday. >> the secretary said people are going to be less safe because people are crossing the border. they said yesterday they are not doing that. i'm not saying it's not important. i'm saying are you scaring the public? >> you're enormously editorializing -- >> february 25, she said if

you have 5,000 fewer patrol borders or agents, you have 5,000 fewer patrol agents. that has a real impact. >> the impact of the sequester will not all be immediate. if you can predict to me when the sequester will end, if it will end, when republicans will make the fateful decision to fund border patrol agents or fund our national security interests or fund head start at appropriate levels and -- rather than continue to extend tax breaks to the wealthy and well-connected, tell me when that happens and then we can assess what damage was done after the fact. >>gretchen: jay carney should get a raise because those talking points, if you're a democrat, those talking points are spot on. that's exactly the message that they want to get out, that it's totally republicans' fault. a recent poll showed 45% of likely voters think sequester didn't cut enough. 45%. >>steve: the thing about jay carney and ed-ry is ed henry is one of the few

reporters at the white house who are actually asking questions people want answers to. essentially jay carney before that exchange was scolding the white house press corps. why aren't you guys covering all the pain the sequester caused? we're only talking about a 2% cut in future spending -- rather 2% cut in the increase in spending. we're actually going to spend more next year than we did last year. >>brian: i thought ed henry's question, he wasn't editorializing. janet napolitano said yesterday we're going to wait another two or three weeks to say what we have to cut when it comes to border patrol agents. no one was talking about that. if anything was underreported is janet napolitano backing off border patrol agents. number two, there's been a few of the reporters questioning jay carney, like jonathan carl last week, because it is an insummit -- insult to listen, report something and then the next day find

out it is not true. that is because the white house is overhyping the impact of sequester and saying they did not deal fairly with republicans when it comes to a deadline. >>steve: jay carney said the law was inflexible but now we're finding ways to move money around. like we predicted. >>brian: we showed you this video. rutgers basketball coach rice and the university facing heat. yesterday a video showed the coach assaulting his players in various practices. the school knew about it. live now at the rutgers campus with more on this and the aftermath. >> good morning, brian. it's not just the assault people are talking about. it's also the verbal comments he made. in those videos, you can clearly hear him cursing at his players and even lobbing gay slurs at them.

and he is under intense scrutiny for physically and verbally assaulting the players. these are videotaped practices of the coach and his players. we don't know when these videos were recorded. we don't know who recorded them. our understanding is they date back a few years. but according to the school, these videos were given to espn by a former employee of rutgers university, a former assistant coach who is suing the school for wrongful termination. that man's name is eric murdock. he spoke yesterday to espn about the incident, about the coach's behavior and his behavior is receiving mixed reaction on campus. take a listen. >> unbelievable to me that somebody would feel that that technique can be successful. >> i thought he was very demanding from his players, but that was his style. that was how he got the best out of his players. i don't think a college coach shouldn't be allowed

to use profanity at times. sometimes it cannen an effective tool in moving a player. >> the school says they got wind of this in november. they fined the coach, suspended him, told him to go to anger management classes. now they are requiring all of his practices to be monitored. they say they won't fire him unless this behavior persists. >> thanks, theresa. we'll see if the pressure change their minds. >>gretchen: they're here illegally but the associated press announced it's not going to call them illegal immigrants anymore. the reason? we'll tell you. >>steve: stuart varney on deck. is the stock market about to take a gigantic tumble? president reagan's top money man says yes. look at the research. should you take your money and run? next stu. ♪

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there on the fringe. david stockman is a respectable and admired guy. he was ronald reagan's budget director. >>brian: who walked away from reagan because he did not believe in reagan's economic plan. >> precisely and he was a successful investment banker. now he comes out with a critique of america's financial history which he says is leading us toward the mother of all crashes. here's his story. he says you have this vast extension of government and the federal reserve has been piling on by printing on. collectively you're talking trillions of dollars. none of this is supported by a strong fundamental economy. so you've got a series of bubbles. dot-com bubbles, housing bubbles and now stock man says the stock market is a gigantic bubble and it is going to collapse. that is his word. collapse. >>steve: take a look at the dow. it closed yesterday another record, 14652. stuart, convention wisdom is if it's at the highest

point than it's been before, eventually it's going to go down. the question is how far? >> he didn't say how far. i interviewed him. he was on my show. he says it's going to collapse. here's his advice. this is important. he says when this latest bubble pops -- this is a direct quote -- when this latest bubble pops, there will be nothing to stop the collapse. my advice is get out of the markets. hide out in cash. he's saying go to the mattresses. he's saying buy short-term, three-month treasury bills, the cash equivalent. >>brian: he says when nixon went off the gold standard that was the beginning of the end. reagan made things worse with dividend spending. he despises what obama and bush did. he did not believe the bailout was necessary. >> he's an equal opportunity critic. he goes back to the johnson era and criticizes every president and now he's particularly critical of

ben bernanke because of his money printing. >>steve: check out stuart. he's going to be on fox business where he interviews guests like david stockman. >> ben carson today, by the way. >>brian: great doctor. >> operated on my brain. >>brian: did you get money back? want food stamps? you'll have to pass a criminal background check first. first. details ahead. [ penélope ] i found the best cafe in the world.

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higher. joining me is the author of "till faith do us part: how interfaith marriage is transforming america." you would know. you personally are in a marriage where there are two different religions. >> i'm in a faith-no faith marriage. but i think that raises a lot of the same questions about the things most couples are most interested in talking about and how they raise their children and how they spend their money and how they spend their time. >>gretchen: on your first date with your husband, you said "i'm jewish." if you want to continue dating me and we get together and have kids the kids will be raised jewish. smart move? >> i think so. i don't want to be gloating. i actually conducted a study survey in july 2010 of 2,300 people. i learned more than half of interfaith couples don't talk about how they're going to raise kids before they get married. i think that raises

problems and tensions later on. a lot of us underestimate how important faith is to us. as we get older the anal of marriage is rising and our 20's are a very secular time in our lives. a lot of people drop out of church. they don't think of themselves as religious. once they get married and they have children, these kind of feelings come rushing back. now you're in a partnership with someone who didn't think you were particularly religious. and where do you go from there i think is a hard question. >>gretchen: you are not saying that it's necessarily wrong for a husband and wife to see the world differently. it comes down to the kids and how you choose to raise them. and then what typically happens is you've already made the choice before you have the kids. so they go in one direction. or there is no religion in the family? >> right. i think certainly a lot of interfaith couples, a plurality of them, according to my study, choose to raise children in no faith. but i think a lot of them do tend to raise children, want to decide to raise children in one faith but it becomes increasingly

difficult as the marriage goes on. i think it is obviously worthwhile to talk about these things ahead of time. i am surprised at the number of people who don't bother to. >>gretchen: do you perceive you'll have any backlash because one of the things about your book is that you say part of the issue here is political correctness and the tolerance for everything. >> i think that is true. the number of people i talked to who said it was bigoted to ask about someone's religion ahead of time is surprising. marriage is different than living next door to someone of a different faith or being friends with them. you don't have to make joint decisions with your next door nation about raising your -- with your next door neighbor about raising your kids or spending money. husbands and wives need to be on the same page when it comes to certain core values. and not only values like be kind to other people, but also religious traditions. are you going to have a

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country illegally. >>gretchen: did you know you can't use undocumented? you can't use "undocumented" because undocumented despite ardent support from some quarters, it is not precise. a person may have plenty of documents, just not the ones required for legal residence. >>steve: that's a problem for our president because he refers to them as undocumented. >>gretchen: it's going to be a problem for a lot of people. there's another term too that people use. >>brian: illegal alien. >>gretchen: that sounds worse to me. >>brian: i don't think they use that. they're trying to phase out illegal alien. to me, it blows me away because that's how you describes somebody who comes here illegally. i don't understand why people are trying to carve up those two words. >>steve: the reason, brian, the associated press in their style book says don't use "illegal alien, illegal immigrant, illegal" anything, this is the a.p.'s way of doing cheerleading, trying to

push immigration reform in congress. what's interesting is janet napolitano, who may not like the term, actually admitted last week that you know what? illegal immigrants, that's what they are. listen. >> i don't really get caught up in the vocabulary. they are immigrants who are here illegally. illegal immigrants. they are immigrants who are here without documents. that is an undocumented immigrant. >>gretchen: i think to a certain degree she's right. this is a huge issue. and to get caught up in the vernacular or whether or not you're calling them one thing or another, let's just get down to business. and depending on what your point of view is, fine. but let's get something done or work towards some sort of solution here instead of talking about what we're actually going to call them. >>brian: you have to call them something in the interim. >>gretchen: call them whatever you want. >>brian: the a.p., which provides news, a news service for a lot of

companies is saying when it comes to discussing immigration and illegal immigrants, people here illegally, undocumented and ten million on the pathway to citizenship, you can no longer call that -- >>gretchen: an immigrant who is here illegally. they just won't say illegal immigrants. >>brian: how much time do we have? coalition of linguists also came together to pressure media to drop illegal immigrant calling it neither neutral nor accurate. they're here illegally. >>steve: the associated press and others on the left as well feel when you attach "illegal" to somebody it puts a bias against them. so take that out. there is a big reform movement in this country toward doing something about immigration reform. i feel sorry for the associated press copy writers. they're going to be scratching their heads. what do we call that guy? border jumper? >>brian: they are here illegally. >>gretchen: how are they going to write a sentence. think it through.

how are they going to write a sentence without saying the immigrant who is here without papers, so that makes them illegal. they might not be able to put those two words together in that exact way -- illegal immigrant -- but they are still going to have to describe what the situation is. >>steve: what the immigration reform experts say is the person is not illegal. they might be in the country illegally. we're getting into some gray areas. >>gretchen: that was my original point. just get something done about illegal immigration. >>brian: as you report on the story, you have to call them something. >>steve: that is the story. >>brian: now the extreme weather, where, maria, you gave me a preview of what you're going to say. say a word about the hail. >> we did actually see some extreme weather yesterday in the county of galveston in texas. there was actually reports of hail that lasted 15 to 20 minutes and that hail was baseball to softball size. so incredible stuff coming out of texas. other towns as well.

marvel falls saw hail for 15 to 18 minutes in duration. reports of damage to roofs and also flooding you can see in that video from galveston, texas, heavy storms roll through. in terms of severe weather, we saw severe weather in the form of snow with syracuse, new york, setting a record, 10.5 inches of snow recorded yesterday, the most snow they have seen for any day in april. that is that record they set. otherwise wind chill temperatures very cold. well below average temperatures across the northern half of the country. the midwest, northeast and even parts of texas and oklahoma currently feels like 27 degrees in new york city. 22 in cleveland. in maine, it feels like zero degrees now. more lake-effect snow across portions of upstate new york. most of that is over with. as far as accumulation goes, maybe another one or two inches. heavier rain across mississippi, new orleans. it will be a slow commute for you. a winter weather advisory in effect for oklahoma and parts of texas because we

actually had reports of freezing rain and a little bit of snow early this morning and that will continue. a quick shot of your high temperatures, 50 in minneapolis, 47 in new york city and 55 degrees in new orleans where it is raining very heavily and will continue throughout the day today. >>steve: i just got an e-mail, maria, from somebody thanking you for putting alaska and hawaii on the map. >> hawaii, much warmer. 75. >>steve: thank you very much. we've got headlines for you on this wednesday morning. it should have been a routine procedure, so how did a man die after getting his wisdom teeth yanked? 25-year-old merit lepinsky went into cardiac arrest after getting propofol. that is what killed michael jackson. the man was a founding

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year to move her daughter to france where antipaparazzi laws are stronger than in the united states. >>steve: guys, live it up while we can. one scientist says we are living on borrowed time and the extinction of men has started. her prediction, the male species will be gone in five million years. good news for "the view." they're ready. she claims over time the genes in the y chromosome have eventually and gradually diminished. women's x chromosome has survived with little damage. congratulations to your chromosome. >>gretchen: thank you. that's a first. >>brian: one of my last sports casts. he couldn't stay away for long. louisville guard kevin ware returning to campus after being released from the hospital in indianapolis. he's getting around on crutches and in good spirits two days after the horrific leg injury. ware is hoping to join his team when it heads to atlanta. he's got to get a doctor's

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>>gretchen: 45 minutes after the top of the hour. quick headlines. utah's mountain man calling prison home, five years on the run. authorities say he got caught after bragging to some hunters. >> this guy takes the cake. police arrested william davenport for stealing cakes from the cake boss. even worse, he was giving away the cakes for free but the suspect didn't want to wait in line. the police say he stole four cakes from a storage area. when he was stopped, he apologized and said he was drunk. steve? >>steve: good alibi. new york state's unemployment rate remains at 8.4% above the national average. now governor cuomo is under fire for stalling on his decision to move forward with fracking, something that could help the state's economy. is he really trying to play politics with the green lobbyists? let's talk to myron ebe hr*e, director of global warming policy at the

competitive enterprise institute. good morning to you. it's interesting. for the last three years, cuomo said his decision would be guided by science and not politics. and yet it looks like he's playing politics, doesn't it? >> it sure does. he's creeped up to making a decision, gotten close to it several times over the last three years. every time he's been pulled back, i believe, by political pressure from the environmental movement and really the democratic establishment in new york state. >>steve: he regards it as a lose-lose situation, doesn't he? >> he's got a problem. upstate new york is the republican part of the state. it's a democratic state. but if you start making the republican part of the state prosperous with a brand-new industry -- national gas fracking -- it's going to change the politics and you'll start seeing -- if new york becomes an energy producer, you'll start seeing its representatives in washington like senator

schumer start defending the oil and gas industry. >>steve: that would be great, wouldn't it? >> you can see why the environmentalists don't want to let prosperity into upstate new york. >>steve: one of the things apparently cuomo is worried about is if he were to say, okay, i looked -- by the way, we should point out it's being safely done in 30 other states. if he does it, he's going to invite the frackers in and suddenly his left green base is going to be angry and then oil and gas companies may not come to new york state because of the many, many regulations that we have here. >> that's right. new york state is not a great place to do business. it's very hard to get going because of all the regulations. of course if governor cuomo really does want to run for president, as everybody thinks he does, he's going to need the support of some major special interest groups in the democratic party. and the environmental movement is an obvious one

for him to curry favor with. this is -- it's not just his political situation in the state. it's his national aspirations to be president that i think are involved here. >>steve: do you think the fact that his former brother-in-law is one of the biggest activists in the country on the environmental side has anything to do with that? >> it's always reported that he whenever gets close to making a decision, bobby kennedy jr. comes by and talks him out of it again. i don't think it's a personal relationship. i think it's straight political pressure. i think the environmental movement is very powerful in the democratic party and very powerful in the state. >>steve: we do know fracking would help the state financially. thank you for joining us today from washington, d.c. >> thanks for having me, steve. >>steve: chuck schumer behind big oil; that would be great. ten minutes before the top of the hour. our e-mail went nuts over this one yesterday.

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coached college athletics, legendary football coach, notre dame, arkansas and south carolina, lou holtz. coach, i think they should be paid. you think what? >> i think they definitely should not be paid for a variety of different reasons. number one, they get an education. they get an education on how to live as well as an education on how to make a living. they get an unbelievable experience. they get to travel. they have lifetime memories. where does the money go, brian? number one, it pays for all sports. when you look at what happens to women's soccer? what happens to women's basketball? what happens to the olympic sports? who builds the facilities? who provides the various facilities for them to improve? the academic achievement, the academic counseling they get? in addition to that, when you look at all the video equipment that enables them to develop their talent. you want a job? drop out of school and go to work for wal-mart. you're not supposed to get rich in college. when i went to college,

they say you need a haircut, i looked at my wallet. my wallet told me whether i need a haircut or not. is kentucky going to play the athlete the same amount as seton hall? where does it go? where does it end? who are you going to take it away from? give everything away -- >>brian: i'm a soccer player in a nonrevenue sport, i get it. but these are unique talents whose career end when they graduate. they are worth more to the university than the average player. >> one out of a thousand are going to go on to play professional football. if you're a professional football player, your career is going to last basically four years. that means at age 27 your football is over but -- >>brian: but you get paid. >> where are you going to go from there. this is not about paying them. it is not about professional football. you're going to take the money and pay everybody exactly the same? it's ridiculous. you get unemployment insurance? you get disability

insurance? that is part of the game of having an injury. that happens. it happens in professional football. they are not there to do anything except get an education. that is one of the problems with college athletics today. people are there to get an education. you look at -- >>brian: but coach -- >> the money is not being thrown away. it is not like somebody is putting it in the bank. it is used for other athletes. >>brian: but it's not right. >> you've got to be kidding me. >>brian: these are unique talents. they need to be rewarded for what they're bringing. the average coach gets over a million dollars a salary. these players get nothing. >> where do you take the money from? are you going to take it from the other people? >>brian: the tv contracts, advertising, shoe deals. >> hey, brian, that all is outside of -- it doesn't have anything to do with the university. but that money, i just went to ohio state, their facilities are unbelievable. i'm talking about women's

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"fox & friends" hour two for this suddenly busy wednesday starts right now. >> you're watching "fox & friends." that's a great way to begin your day. >> steve: don king is appropriate. it was like a fight. we had holtz yelling at the camera. >> brian: he's going to weigh in -- >> steve: is he still in orlando? do we still have him in front of a camera? >> gretchen: yes, we do. we'll get to him after headlines. he's getting a sip of water. >> brian: he does not agree that these great division 1 football and basketball players should be paid. we'll discuss it just around the bend. >> gretchen: let's get to your headlines. the search is on for two inmates on the run this morning of the they broke out of a jail in texas by tampering with a fence in a recreation yard. during the search yesterday, guess where police found their jail uniforms? on some railroad tracks. so those guys now running around

in their t-shirts and boxers. one of them was awaiting trial on a capital murder charge. a man suspected of killing a colorado prison chief. ebel tamped with ankle bracelet before the murder happened. it took five days to check up on him. ebel was gone. these details coming one day after we found out that ebel was let out of prison early because of a clerical mistake. he was killed in a shoot outwith police after he allegedly killed the prison guy back in colorado. he died doing what ahead him the star of a controversial reality show, tearing through mud holes in his truck. shane gandhi, his uncle and friend have been deemed dead from carbon monoxide poisoning. the 21-year-old's ford bronco got stuck in a mud pit. they believe toxic fumes were unable to escape through the tail pipe n. response, mtv

suspended the shooting of the show. >> brian: all right. since i was not able to give my side of the story and the coach is so passionate about this, i want to try again. >> steve: back for more! >> brian: to talk to the great coach, one of our great friends, lou holtz. >> brian: you agree -- i know you agree with the coach, gretchen. but first off, coach, i want to bring up, for everyone out there, cbs signed a basketball contract of $10 billion to carry college hoops. irish football, notre dame gets $15 million annually to see those players try to become national champions, whether they're good or not. the top 25 in basketball and football do so much for the athletic department, do so much for the university, do so much in terms of entertaining, they deserve something for the unique talent and contribution, don't you agree? >> absolutely not. number one, you pay for all the

different sports you look for the nonrevenue sports. what happened to women's socker and the scholarship for all these other people? let me say this, the money that's not used for athletics at notre dame goes back to the university. you look at the academic support system, you look at everything. >> brian: it's not right. >> you go to college to get an education and you get a wonderful experience and only one in 1,000 move on to professional athletics. you build the facilities. you look at all the various equipment to have them prove your talents. you're there to get an education. >> brian: i agree with you. >> you want to be paid, you want a job? drop out of school and go to wal-mart! i have no problem with that. you're not supposed to get rich in college. it's because it goes to the educational experience. >> brian: i agree with you. as a soccer player, we don't drive revenue for the college. but these football players and basketball players do. i'm not saying make them millionaires, but can we get 300,000 that they get after they

graduate? >> you're like the country. let's give everything away and who is going to pay for it! >> gretchen: that's my question! >> are you going to take the money away from women's soccer, those women on scholarship? that is unbelievable! >> brian: capitalism. >> i learned more on a football field than i did in class. you'll have friends. that's what it's all about. >> brian: let me ask you this, i get all the memories in the nfl and 1.6 million for being an offensive tackle in football. i got great memories. i love the coaches and i like when fans cheer for me. when these players have unique talent, they should be rewarded. if beckel is 15 and going for a championship, shouldn't he get paid -- >> absolutely not. as i told my children, number one, find something you like to do. number two, find something do you well. number three, find somebody to pay to you do it. if nobody will pay to you do it,

you don't have a profession. off hobby. in indiana, you're going to pay indiana basketball players as you are at seton hall or something else? and wake forest said if they have to pay athlete, they're going to move down to division 2. the excess money goes back to the university. >> brian: no up with is making a profit. cbs is not making a profit. the coaches -- >> brian, listen to this, the money from the ncaa basketball predominantly goes to the ncaa. who pays for all this national championship in track and field, soccer, and all those other things? who pays for that? that comes from the ncaa which raises the revenue from basketball. brian, everything goes back to the individual athlete and make it a wonderful experience. all the facility -- you look at all the greatest equipment today about the video to improve an

individual's talent and ability, but also the academic support! the tutoring! it cost has tremendous amount. that money goes back to making -- >> gretchen: the most important point you make, coach, well, two, is that people are paying $50,000 a year to go to college now. people who don't play sports. >> brian: not enough. >> gretchen: i can't imagine how they would feel knowing that not only are these athletes getting a complete full ride not paying a dime to go to college, but now they're going to get paid on top of that? >> you bring in revenue u get paid. >> steve: coach? >> you should not be going to college to play athletics 'cause only one in 1,000 going to make it to pros. go to college and get an education because you're athletic career is over by the time you're 28. what are you going to do the last two-thirds? that's what college is all about. when you go to college to get a

degree, you will make on the average of a million dollars more in your lifetime than the noncollege graduate. >> brian: is anyone making a profit off those players? >> you're not doing them a favor 'cause they'll be better prepared. >> steve: coach, i got a feeling the two of are you not going to agree on this. we're going to conclude this portion of hannity and colmes and move on now to something else. it involves the rutgers basketball coach, mike rice. i'm sure you've seen this video. it was broadcast on espn and we've got it this morning. what do you think about the way he's man handling these players? coach? coach lou holtz? >> brian: we might have lost the audio. good question. >> gretchen: can you hear us, coach? >> brian: coach, if you can hear us, nod? [ laughter ] >> gretchen: let's bring you up to date on this story. the coach at rutgers basketball,

once again in the news. can you hear us, coach? [ laughter ] okay. anyway, so the coach under fire because apparently these videotapes -- >> brian: he got physical. antigay slurs. >> gretchen: yeah. but physically was pushing tpla. coach, are you there now? >> yes. i think he should not put hands on an athlete. but let me say this, i grabbed a guy by the face mask once because he did something that was completely illegal. but also, i believe that somebody puts hands on an athlete today, we know that's a no-no. you also have to look at the relationship that coach has. all we look is one little segment. what about the other thing he does in the offense? is he having a positive impact? that is a question. i don't think you can just evaluate one little thing and say okay. that's a no-no. >> brian: i think you got 12 different incidents here and whip ago ball at someone's groin

usually doesn't make them grow as a person. >> no. i'm not defending that at all whatsoever. but i am saying this, as a coach, you should never do anything physically with an athlete, lay your hands on them, et cetera. i grabbed a face mask 'cause i wanted to have undivided attention and wanted to look him in the eye. but you have to look also about the predominant thing that coaches develop that individual and you don't do it -- you must criticize their performance. you never criticize a performer and that's a big difference in education and raising children. remember this also, when people need love and understanding the most is usually when they deserve it the least. but what the rutgers coach did was totally uncalled for action totally unacceptable. >> steve: what should happen to him? >> well, i think it has to be a decision made by the university. i think they have to talk to the athlete and find out their relationship. are they getting better and developing? how are they doing academically.

but you have to have policy. that's a decision they have to make. i don't know all the facts. i will tell you this, that is totally unacceptable, by my standards. >> gretchen: all right. lou holtz, thanks so much the you got extra credit time here. >> brian: so i won you over, right? >> oh, yeah, you won me over big-time. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: just like me. >> brian: go work for the government, brian. >> brian: go work for the government! >> steve: he's a capitalist. >> gretchen: maybe we should have him back on the radio show later on, too. >> brian: that would be great. i'll work my way off the bench. >> steve: the great lou holtz, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> steve: it's now -- that was good. very peppy. >> brian: i need a shower. i haven't gotten yelled at like that in a while. usually got to go home and get yelled at like that. >> gretchen: i knew that was coming. >> brian: straight ahead, it was a major selling point in obamacare. it turns out the president can't deliver on that promise.

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meant to offer small businesses coverage for their employees. it was supposed to open in 2014, but now we've learned it could be at least another year. congressman sam graves is my guest this morning. good morning, sir. >> good morning, gretchen. >> gretchen: so you are on a committee that is very important to this particular issue. where do we stand with it? >> yes. well, it's a mess, to be quite honest with you. we're trying to figure out what the administration's delay is about, why they are delaying, what it's going to mean to small businesses is higher costs, higher regulatory costs obviously in the taxes. but the fact of the matter is, their insurance costs are going to continue to go up. this central piece of the legislation was to provide competition for small businesses, yet it's not going to be there, at least for another year and we don't know how much longer after that. >> gretchen: explain for me and for our viewers what the difference here is between what we've been talking a lot about over the last three years, which

is small businesses will be forced to provide health care for all of their employees if they're a certain size versus what you're talking about. >> well, what it's supposed to do is provide competition. there is supposed to be a number of plans that businesses can choose from and employees would be able to choose whatever particular benefits they want. we're now the third -- i think this is the third anniversary of the implementation of the health care plan. we were supposed to see these exchanges up and going. in fact, the administration testified just in december and then in february this year that they're going to have an up and running this year. but now we find out that it's going to be 2015 before they're going to be able to implement everything. it's a real problem. it's indicative of this administration. they continue to miss deadlines over and over again. they can't come up with a budget to be able to present it to congress and now they're going to miss one of the central pieces of their massive health

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northeastern texas. they managed to break free by basically slipping through a fence. so the search was underway both on the ground, in the air yesterday and overnight. police say they have found this, a pair of jail uniforms on the tracks not far away from the jail. so the inmates are believed to be just wearing t-shirts and boxer shorts. and one of them is awaiting trial on a capital murder charge. so some pretty serious crimes right there. authorities still on the lookout for them. in the meantime, there is a major update in the case drawing more national attention. a federal prosecutor has quit the case involving a white supremacist gang over safety concerns. the aryan brotherhood of texas getting a whole lot of attention now, known as the abt. that is being investigated for the murders or the possible murders of district attorney and his wife. we're learning overnight they were shot multiple times when they were found in their home. they were shot over the weekend

and that has prompted a whole lot of security concerns, increasing security around prosecutors in that area and their staff. the group, the aryan brotherhood group is suspected in the january murder of assistant d.a. mark hasse. no arrests made in that. john heileman, an assistant u.s. attorney, he has been working on a major racketeering case in the region, against 34 of those aryan brotherhood members. he sent a letter to defense attorneys saying he's stepping down from the case. listen to this. >> i understand why someone would want to step back and it makes sense to me, especially people that have families. >> right now there is no evidence that is tying the aryan brotherhood to the kaufman county murders, but some are still pointing fingers to the group. listen to this. >> the aryan brotherhood of texas today is arguably the most violent white supremacist prison gang operating. it has been blamed for more than

100 murders and at least ten kidnappings since it was formed in the early 1980s. >> no arrests have been made in either murder case right now. officials aren't saying what the security issue was that caused the prosecutor to quit. we understand now that u.s. attorney from washington, d.c. will take over that case. we've been talking a lot about the aryan brotherhood, but that's the only theory underway here. they're also looking at drug cartels or maybe somebody with a grudge who could have been responsible for these killings. we just don't know yet. >> gretchen: all right. scary times. thank you. coming up next, paid by what you weigh -- pay by what you weigh? one airline making that reality. is that fair? e-mail us now. >> brian: and give us your weight. sure, this dancing sea lion is cute. but she's also blowing the minds of the world's smartest scientists, who evidently have given up other science experiments to look at seals ♪

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he got to hit one shot before he goes. no, didn't make it. now try again. no, didn't make that one. no, he didn't give up. no, didn't make that one. no. still going. still trying. he's going to get there. s still trying! 7:15. okay. okay. hear the rooster crowing now. 10:47! yes! yes! [ laughter ] >> gretchen: all right. so that was from the other day. wasn't that the easter egg roll day? anyway, that was the other day during the easter egg roll when the president, i think he was 2 for 22. he didn't have the best of days. >> brian: scott brown said the problem is, and if the president is watching, it's his follow through. he said he's pulling his arm through after he releases the ball. >> gretchen: if you weigh more, you're going to pay more on samoa air. they calculated the cost of the

ticket based on both the weight now of the passenger and their baggage. lauren simonetti here with more houston this. what i loved is you get to guestimate if you check in on-line or buy on-line. but then in the fine print t says don't cheat 'cause we're going to weigh you when you get here. >> yeah. we're going to check you for sure. samoa air is giving passenger has reason to go on a diet. you pay for what you weigh. this is what the web site says. you are the master of your air fare. you decide how much or little your ticket will cost. no more exorbitant fees. your weight plus baggage item social security what you pay for. simple. is it really simple or controversial, right? critics say a pay by the pound system would never work here in the united states for publicity as well as practicallyity reasons. but samoa's ceo says his method is the fairest way to fly and

it's the future for other airlines. this is how the weight system works. travelers enter their estimated weight and bags weight on a calculator on the web site, then they are weighed at the airport. they will give you leeway if you're within 2%. they say paying by weight is better than flat fares. kids tickets would be cheaper and it's great for bigger and taller people who often need larger seats with more leg room. since they're paying more, they will make sure they fly in comfort. it flies three aircraft, two send seaters and one four seater. it serves the islands and samoa and french polynesia. a man weighing 195 pounds with a 35-pound bag would pay about $97 for a one way ticket. >> gretchen: all right. >> steve: one way, that sounds am news. what if he wants to make it all the way around. we thank you very much. earlier we posed a question, what do you think about this? we heard from sarah. sarah said, i love the idea of

paying your weight. should have been doing this all along. maybe it would help these people realize they need to lose weight. by the way, we should point -- >> brian: an airline reminding you you're too heavy. >> steve: i saw a statistic that a couple years ago, last time they did a study, 80% of the women in the american samoan island are obese. >> gretchen: isn't it everyone? >> brian: everyone in samoa is obese? >> gretchen: 80% of all people. i think they have a huge problem. >> brian: if you're in samoa and you're not obese, tweet us. >> gretchen: here are the other stories making headline, it should have been a routine procedure. how did a man die after get mission wisdom teeth pulled? he went into cardiac arrest after getting propothol. an autopsy being done to determine the cause of death. he was the founding partner in a company called total third dimension, which developed thermal and night vision equipment for the military.

>> brian: so close yet so far. rangers superstar pitcher yu darvish. watch. >> a base hit! >> brian: two outs, bottom of the 9th, one out away from a perfect game against the astros. fans shocked. they thought they were about to witness history! they gave haim standing ovation. he left the game. texas won 7-0. he took it a lot better than his teammates who seemed much more upset by the missed opportunity. he's considered the best pitcher in japan. his dad is iranian and he was born in japan. his mom is japanese. >> steve: check this out, a sea lion getting her groove on. ♪ . >> steve: that's ronan rocking out to backstreet boys.

scientists taught her to keep the beat to learn whether or not animals, other than parrots, have rhythm. she proved they do. currently her favorite song, "boogie wonderland" by earth, wind and fire. she bobs her head along to the music, just like that. >> brian: that's incredible. >> steve: it is. ♪ boogie wonderland ♪ . >> gretchen: a good workout song. president obama heads to colorado in a few hours to push his gun control plan. but he's coming under fire for using decades old information to sell the new idea. elizabeth prann has more, live in washington. good morning. >> good morning. the senate may be hearing legislation addressing gun trafficking and expanded background checks in the next week or two. this while president obama continues his pressure campaign while traveling to colorado today. he'll display the state's gun control package. lawmakers there proposed some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. the bill today sets limits on ammunition magazines and expands

background checks. the president's arguments, however, are full of stale statistics. he's been using, quoting 40% of all gun purchases are made without a background check, but that number is almost 20 years old. listen. >> why wouldn't we want to make it more difficult for a dangerous person to get his or her hand on a gun? why wouldn't we want to close the loophole that allows as many as 40% of all gun purchases to take place without a background check? why wouldn't we do that? >> that 40% bit, it's reference ago study which included about 250 people back in the early 90s. gun rights groups such as the national rifle association are calling out the president, arguing it misrepresents gun control advocates. in fact, members were holding a press conference yesterday. they offered a number of alternatives, including training school personnel to carry firearms, more attention to those suffering from mental health issues, and improve law enforcement coordination. >> the specific finding and

recommendation is that the presence of an armed security or personnel in a school adds a layer of security and diminishes response time that is beneficial to the overall security. so the answer is yes, it is a plus, but we also recognize that one, the decision is locally made. >> after the president returns from colorado, he will head to connecticut next week to continue the campaign. back to you guys in new york. >> brian: two top things, immigration, which is on the table, and gun control, doing this simultaneously. and north korea threatening to blow us up. >> steve: that's right. he's in a big hurry to take care of all of them. political? you be the judge. we've been talking about the sequester, remember before the sequester we heard from the white house, man, the sky is going to fall. everything is going to go hay wire. well, it didn't. there have been some changes, however. it's interesting, up on capitol hill, apparently congressional offices have reduced their

office budgets, there have been some furloughs. but interestingly enough -- >> brian: pentagon has been slammed. >> steve: yeah. but members of congress, the actual representatives and the senators, they are exempt from a salary cut and you can blame the 1985 graham-rudman act that exempted social security, interest on the debt, pell grants and by extension, the pay of members of congress. >> gretchen: so steve forbes was on the greta show last night and he has some ideas about how this should be handled. >> have the government spending tied to the state of the economy. traditionally we'd spend 18, 20% of gdp and government spending. so have a figure like 18 or 19% and if it goes above that, then congress' pay is docked and the president's pay is docked and since he has so many perks, perhaps a few rounds on the golf course. but have real consequences, personal consequences when you don't hold up your

responsibilities. we do it in every other sphere of life. >> brian: the other part of the sequester that gets a lot of heat is the white house tours they've been shut down because we simply can't afford $74,000 a week in secret service pay because we have to all suck it up, tighten our belts except those in congress, like the president. and those who are directly being paid like senators, congressmen and the president of the united states, i should add. however, there are certain people getting through the red tape and the sequester tour ban. those people are famous and in one case, a very good dancer. >> gretchen: i think they're getting a little more than a white house tour when they go to the white house. maybe not the same ones that school kids get. here is a list of some of the folks who have been able to come to the white house since march 1. >> brian: headlines, justin timberlake. >> gretchen: danica patrick, maybe she was there for the egg roll. john wall, basketball player. and i can't see the rest of them. >> steve: jordan sparks is included.

a whole bunch of celebrities have been able to jump the sequester sorry, kids, you can't come in. but the elites can. coming up on april 9, a bunch of music stars are going to be there at the white house for the taping of a pbs show. it is an installment of in performance at the white house, memphis souls, justin timberlake, booker t jones will be there and others. there is justin right there. so in other words, it does seem like a double standard. if offer celebrity or elite, despite the quester, you get in. but the rest of us if you want to see the white house, you can, through the gate, or the fence. if they don't -- if the white house is not aware of how bad this looks, they're just tone deaf because if it's open to celebrities and it's not open to the people, the people's house, that just doesn't look right. >> brian: i'd like to know what does it take to see maria molina? >> extreme weather. texas getting slammed with severe storms, driving rain,

making dangerous conditions all on the roads. all that lightning blamed for several fires in the area. let's send it over to her now. good morning, maria. >> good morning. we didn't just see lightning and also heavy rain, but even severe weather in the form of large hail and damaging wind gusts across portions of texas. there is reports that some towns were hit hard with large hail, from 15 to 20 minutes. can you imagine hail coming down, softball size. 15 to 20 minutes. incredible stuff. there is damage being reported across that area. that's basically to the southeast of downtown houston to roofs and damage to many cars here. many people waking up to wishing that they had a grand jury, unfortunately n that town. temperatures as well, below average. extreme weather in that sense as well. 24 degrees is what it feels like in new york city now. it feels like 0 in caribou, maine. 24 is the wind chill temperature in minneapolis in minute money. we have a few -- minnesota. some of the white stuff coming down in parts of upstate new york, syracuse set a record

yesterday. 10.5 inches of snow. heavy rain still coming down in portions of louisiana, moving into parts of mississippi. weather advisory in effect in texas and oklahoma because we had some snow coming down out there. >> steve: it's a winter storm even though it's springtime. thank you very much. she hasn't been sequestered. >> brian: no, she hasn't. we could see her for free. straight ahead, is your husband holding on to a teddy bear he got when he was a kid? is he normal or nuts? do you need to speak to somebody? we have dr. keith ablow. >> gretchen: then look at this video. there is no reason he should be alive right now. stars of "swamp people" and" the gator" here live. >> steve: the aflac question of the day, born in 1961, this actor and comedian lent his voice to the shrek series. who is snow be the first to e-mail with the correct answer, you're our winner i'm over the hill.

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>> we're true pros. >> brian: there is a fearless father and son team featured on the hit show "swamp people." >> steve: r.j. and j. paul, the gator hunters. >> grab him! grab him! (bleep). >> steve: man. here are r.j. and j. paul, along with some gators and there is one right over there. is it okay to drag him back? >> drag him by the tail. >> steve: come here. >> brian: he's trying to get away. evidently he doesn't like tv. he's more of a radio gator, i think. >> he feels his life threatened. >> brian: can i bring you back to that moment by the boat? what was happening by the boat right there? >> all he had in his mind was

getting that alligator. >> brian: did you end up shooting him? >> oh, yeah, it was done. we took care of business. we got the gator. like i always say, i always get my gator. the way we were taught, whenever you mess with -- we don't do anything to leave an animal go out wounded or anything. so we had to make sure that we get where it needs to be done. >> steve: sure. congratulations on this show. "swamp people" is a huge run away hit. i think one of the reasons it is so popular is the fact that it is real danger. i mean, you're in that disgusting water. were you playing it up when you tried to get the 13-foot alligator in the 12-foot boat? >> no. that's just the way we live. to some people it might look kind of, you know, not right. but that's just natural to us. >> i'm just glad history gave us a chance to show the world our culture and background. people freak out and say, y'all

really do stuff like that? i've been fishing since three years old. i've been with my dad since three years old. this is our lifestyle f generation to generation. >> brian: if you went up to your dad and said, the whole alligator thing seems a little dangerous, i want to be an accountant. what would he have said? >> son, too whatever you want after the alligator season. >> brian: so you grab them and move them and take them? >> we do it all. >> brian: can i grab yours? >> yeah, grab this one. >> steve: are you like america's number one arm wrestler, in addition to gator wrestler? >> four-time world champion, professional arm wrestler. >> brian: you're also a guiltien gloves guy, right? >> also cage fighter. >> i'm also -- i fight and two-time golden glove. >> brian: so you train with the alligators to get ready? >> you saw the clip. >> steve: they really wrestle the gators and they're tough and cool guys and we thank r.j. and also j paul for joining us.

watch "swamp people" 9 on history. thanks. >> brian: nice to see you. maybe if we have some time, we can grab one outside. i'll bring the gator. >> steve: i was just dragging that gator right there. that would freak me out if i were a major germafebruary. would you rather stand for hours in an airport waiting for a flight? >> brian: dr. keith ablow next. is he normal or nuts? >> steve: look, he's not happy. >> brian: first on this day, 1984, "footloose," which inspired me to great things, kenny loggins, number one song [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness?

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>> steve: the voice of donkey and shrek, eddie murphy. the winner is david from ottawa. congratulations. meanwhile, normal or nuts? it's a question everybody asks from time to time. it's something we posed to our own dr. keith ablow every week. he joins us now to answer some e-mail. good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning. how are you? >> steve: i'm doing fine, although brian kind of scared me with that alligator. one inch from my face! am i normal or nuts? >> you're normal. very normal. >> steve: good. here is the first e-mail. my cousin is a very picky eater. she is always looking at the content in food and will almost never eat something without seeing exactly what is in the food. normal or nuts? >> listen, i'm going to say that's normal. number one, it's a little unusual, but we're going to say

normal. why? there are a lot of preservatives now, so many artificial ingredients in the foods. eating natural is very tough. and listen, i'm loath, very reluctant to assign the term nuts to anybody who wants more control today over what they eat, what they do, because guess what? there are too many sheep. we're being encouraged to be entitlement sheep. so you want to determine what you eat. good for you. >> steve: all right. what about this one? whenever i'm in public places, i refuse to touch the handles, tables or even chairs. i'd rather stand for hours at an airport waiting for my flight than sit down. normal or nuts? >> listen, this one is easy. it's crazy, right? and i mean that in the clinical sense. it's obsessive compulsive disorder. listen, there is something really messy in your life, but it isn't the handle or the seat. why don't you come to somebody like me, talk it through, find out so you don't have to go through these things. >> steve: right. or just use purel.

finally, my husband has a teddy bear from 1954 when he was three years old. he refuses to let me throw it out. why won't he let smoky the bear go? normal or nuts? >> listen, he's normal. smoky is the reservoir of a lifetime of memories. don't throw smoky in the trash. ask your husband, tell me the three most important moments in your life that smoky was with you, what were they? you'll fall in love with the man all over again. i love smoky! i love this guy! >> steve: you sound like a guy who's got a teddy bear, keith. >> i'm thinking about this little teddy bear i got on my shelf. i gave it to my daughter. i kept it my whole life. she's got it now. she'll keep it. she'll give it to her kids. >> steve: that's very nice. >> i'll have to tell you the three moments when we're getting coffee. my three moments with my teddy bear. >> steve: i will await with baited breath. thank you. >> thank you.

>> steve: they're here illegally burks the ap just announced they will no longer call them illegal immigrants. your e-mail on this one pouring in. you're watching "fox & friends" live from new york city. back in two minutes ♪

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helping them get the attention they need, before they even reach the hospital. because the world's biggest challenges deserve even bigger solutions. powerful answers. verizon. >> gretchen: good morning, everybody. it's wednesday, april 3, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time with us today. president obama is going to be heading to colorado today to push gun control. but will his ideas actually do anything more or could they be a distraction from what he doesn't want you to be focused on. that's what his critics are saying. >> steve: they're here illegally burks the associated press says don't call them illegals. it's mean! really? you're fired up about this one. you're sending us e-mails. we're going to read them out loud. >> brian: move over, old spice guy. meet the zesty guy. >> how zesty do you want it? a little? a little more?

how about a lot more? >> brian: your salad has never looked this good. >> steve: oh, really, brian? >> gretchen: why are you reading that one? >> steve: he loves salad. >> gretchen: okay. >> brian: "fox & friends" starts now. ♪ . >> steve: ladies and gentlemen, that's the t rex live on our plaza right now. they were here last year. they're from field station dinosaurs, which is just across the river. look out, lady! >> gretchen: we're going to find out more about t-rex. that's apparently only one third of the size of a real t rex back

way back. >> brian: right. you remember? >> gretchen: no, i happened to study it. >> brian: it doesn't work if people are going to be scared. why didn't he hire actors? >> steve: you see this is a delivery truck. you see the guy poking his head out, taking a picture? >> brian: no one is scared! >> steve: because you can see the puppet legs. >> brian: this is new york. we get this all the time. i can see the gator guys weren't scared burks these guys aren't scared. >> steve: today we're bringing t-rexy back. there they are. taking a picture. smile. anyway, that's in a very busy hour of fox friends friends. also a lot of e-mail in addition to the ap drop and designation of illegal aliens to brian's absolutely calm conversation with former coach of notre dame, lou holtz on whether or not college athletes should get paid. >> brian: how is that going for me? have you checked the e-mail or

twitter? i'm getting killed. >> gretchen: there is one person who agrees with you. >> brian: i really feel the coach made a strong case. >> steve: if you missed it, it is terrific and we're going to play some of it this half hour. >> gretchen: okay. let's do some headlines to kick it off. overnight, police in texas using thermal technology it search for two inmates that scaped from jail. the two apparently were able to slip through a fence in a recreation yard. during a search yesterday, police found their jail uniforms on train tracks. so the inmates now believed to be wearing t-shirts and boxers. one was awaiting trial on a capital murder charge. new details about the man suspected of killing a colorado prison chief. it turns out that ebel tampered with his ankle bracelet before the murder happened, but it took a parole officer five days to check on him. one showed up at his house on the same day of the murder, but ebel wasn't there. these details coming one day of a we found out that he was clerical mistake early, like by

five years. he was killed in a shootout with police in texas. the gun found at the scene was matched to the crime scene in colorado. he died doing what made him the star of a controversial reality show tearing through mud holes in his truck "shane gandee, his uncle and a friend found dead of carbon monoxide poisoning. the bronco got stuck in the mud pit. they believe toxic fumes from the truck were unable to escape through the tail pipe. in response, mtv has suspended shooting the show's second season. tax dollars could pay for this convicted killer's sex change? robert now known as michelle, is serving a life sentence for murdering his wife back in 1990. massachusetts department of corrections already provided michelle with female hormone treatments and electrolysis in prison. but her lawyer argues it's not enough. >> she should have the surgery because she has suffered for a long time with the debilitating

medical condition. >> gretchen: last year a federal court judge ordered the state to provide the sex change surgery. the decision under appeal. those are your headlines. that's controversial topic. >> steve: i don't think so. >> brian: really? prison inmate with a sex change? i don't see anything unusual about that. >> steve: can we vote? let's talk about the president of the united states. next week in the u.s. senate, there will be a vote probably on more gun controls in this nation. so to push his agenda, the president is going to go out to denver today and to connecticut next week. why? because both those states have already passed in the wake of sandy hook, stronger gun control s in their state and the president will say why can't the senate be like colorado and connecticut and push something, even though what they're suggesting really would not have affected what happened in sandy hook because it doesn't affect and impact mental health screening. >> gretchen: so the governor in colorado, he was behind those stricter gun control laws,

banning high capacity magazines and requiring universal background checks on gun transfers. there is a trickle down effect of this from an economic point of view as well. colorado is a big hunting place. now some conventions where people go there to hunt have been canceled, taking away business from the state. and also there are companies in colorado that make some of these parts of guns and such who are now considering making a move out of the state. but you have to wonder why the president isn't talking about the whole comprehensive issue that many people had hopes for after the sandy hook tragedy happened, which did incom pass maybe gun control, but also the discussion about mental health, maybe a discussion about school security. it appears it's just one way or the highway with regard to what his thoughts are on this. >> brian: right. he does mention once in a while, but he always leads with magazine and assault weapons ban and universal background checks, which most polls show people are for. but if i'm going to sell a gun to steve and he's my neighbor and i got an extra and i go

steve, you want to buy a gun, 200 bucks? they want to have a situation where in connecticut, they do, all right. steve, go get your background check, show me you had your background check and then i can sell you the gun. this way you're not sell to go a guy that seems normal, but he maybe the next adam lanza or jared loughner, who never seemed normal. but that's the way to look at mental health and trying to find a way to loop that in. the other thing that's important is the nra commissioned a study to say give us some ideas on social security. they came back and said, if teachers are licensed to carries let's give a free course to them so they can protect the elementary schools and middle and high schools in the area and they come up with dollar amount how much it would be to secure schools for the next guy that wants to murder kids because they're a soft target. >> the other thing is why is the president right now and next week as well pushing gun control? i mean, take a look at a fox news poll from october of 2012. the most important issues facing you when you vote for president, economics, taxes, social

security, other stuff as well. i don't see guns right there. >> gretchen: that was before sandy hook. >> steve: i understand. and we have seen that in the wake of sandy hook, suddenly a lot of people were for things that they're not for as strongly today, given the time. but is the president trying to control the news essentially by changing the topic? people really want to hear about where are the jobs? we want to know about what's going on with the euro and over there in cyprus and can that happen here? and what about north korea? rather than talk about those things, we're talking about this. >> gretchen: i don't know if it's so much of a distraction, 'cause i do think the gun control issue, when you look at it in a comprehensive fashion, is a huging issue for this country. i'm thinking it's more to do with this president wanting to start laying the groundwork for a legacy. he really does not have a tremendous amount of accomplishments in his first four years other than health care reform. so now he's looking at three more years of his presidency. i'm thinking more that he feels

like he needs to go after things where he feels like he can actually make his mark and get something done. >> brian: but gun control is a disaster for him. i do think this because he is trying to get his legacy, i think he's go -- he'd best do it on immigration because on gun control, he's getting nothing and democrats for the first time seem to be turning on him. he has a vote on gun control, he'll see harry reid is not in his corner and others. you'll run down for the first time a fracture -- >> gretchen: maybe not for universal background checks. >> brian: even that's taking a beating. >> steve: if he's serious about guns, people with issues, given the legislation that we're talking about right now, would still be able to get them. whatever you do, don't call them illegal, especially brian just mentioned immigration. for a long time, they've been people who are in this country illegally have been referred to as illegal immigrants, or illegal aliens. you know what? according to the associated press, they put out an amendment to their style book and says, do not use the term, illegal,

because it dehumanizes them. it is a bias against that person who is in this country illegally. it's not fair to them, even though, as janet napolitano says, it is accurate. >> i don't really get caught up in the vocabulary wars. they are immigrants who are here illegally. illegal immigrant. they are immigrants here without documents. that's an undocumented immigrant. >> gretchen: i agree with her. why get caught up in the wording of it all. let's try and work on the problem. it's not that the a.p. is not going to use the word illegal anymore. they're just not going to eye use it before the word immigrant. they'll have to describe what they are, an immigrant in this country illegally. they're not going to use undocumented because they say you could have a lot of papers that may be aren't the right papers to have. so that's not a correct terminology either. they're still going to have to somehow in that sentence say to the person here is breaking the law, not here legally, somehow

they're going to have to describe it. >> brian: rick from missouri says so if i break into someone's home, then i'm considered what? an uninvited guest? good point. pat says, call them what they are, they are criminals. and this is what they're saying, they're toying with the word, they're really not an opinion in the word illegal immigrant. if you're here illegally, if you snuck in and stayed and overstayed your viva, you're here illegally. you're an illegal immigrant. >> gretchen: now are we going to debate this for ten weeks, ten years instead of actually talking about the issue, which is to get something done to have both parties come together and actually tackle this problem for the first time. >> steve: which would be great if they could come up with something that works. but it's the associated press' little way of cheerleading for immigration reform. >> gretchen: i don't know. >> steve: yeah. >> gretchen: you're making a leap. you're making a leap by saying changing the way in which they describe them is cheerleading for one side? >> steve: because they feel, the associated press, and people in that particular faction, they feel that when you say illegal, you put a bias against those

people. so what they're doing is, hey, washington, d.c. is talking about immigration. let's not call them illegals. let's call them something else, like the guy wrote in, uninvited guest. just don't call them illegal because that would make their cause harder. >> brian: it was a 6:52 segment in the morning. i look forward to doing it. never did i think it would get as crazy as it got. lou holtz joined us about paying college athletes. >> where you going to go from there? it's not about professional football! where you going to take the money and you're going to pay everybody exactly the same? >> brian: your e-mails are pouring in. it's not looking good for me because a lot of viewers still confused. >> steve: you're just lucky he was in orlando, otherwise you would have a black eye. then, she spent most of her life thinking about how to blow things up like buildings and kill people. now she's teaching kids in college. peter johnson, jr. on that and her next.

>> brian: risky lending led to the nation's housing crisis. but the obama administration now pushing back banks to do it all over again. they're pushing banks to loan people money who have weak credit. why? they say the housing rebound is leaving young buyers and those with bad credit behind. no kidding. and dramatic video of a man hanging from power lines in china. he was reportedly drunk. we tonight know that for sure. the power was shut off while he dangled for 15 minutes. he eventually lost his grip and fell onto an inflated cushion set up by the fire department, or the bar he was drinking in. >> steve: for a drunk guy, he sure could climb. meanwhile, this is going to get you going. columbia university here in new york city making headlines after

hiring a new professor, former weather underground radical, kathy bodine. she spent 22 years behind bars for her role in a 1981 armored car robbery that left two police officers and a brinks guard dead. you probably remember that case. has the school crossed the line by hiring her? should it lose its federal funding. joining us is peter johnson, jr. >> this is as sick and low as you can go. they hit the bottom of the barrel. there's a new paradigm, a new model in american education and culture now that it's murder, mayhem, terrorism, and anarchy. it's not hoer ratio alger or henry ford or thomas edison or neil armstrong. the path to success is to be involved in murders, to plot bombings, to be part of the black panthers, to be part of the weather underground. so miss bodine getting honors from nyu as well, teaching social work at columbia

university, teaching a theory on mass incarceration, how mass, mass incarcerates african-americans in this country is now saying, i'm your model now. and so now miss bodine and columbia have invited angela davis. >> steve: are you kidding? >> the professor emeritus at the university of california. she'll be lecturing this this week. so we know kathy bodine at columbia and receiving awards from nyu. we know about angela davis. we know about bill ayers, the president's friend, and also a fellow named jamel joseph, who was part of the panther 21, who spent five years in leavenworth prison, who was somehow connected with the same event in which two police officers and a brinks guard were killed involving kathy bodine, who spent more than 20 years in prison for that. >> steve: it's crazy. they're teachers. here is a quotation from an

undersheriff. he says i'm happy that she's doing something positive with her life, but he said, i believe there is probably somebody other than -- there are probably other people who are available to provide education beyond someone who is on parole for murder. >> these are not our models. the models of columbia university in the history of columbia university, john jay, alexander hamilton, the authors of the federalist papers, dwight d. eisenhower was the president of columbia university. professors like richard hafsta t.d. er and others. now we go to the bottom of the barrel. we go to the bottom of our society. we go to the people who engaged in the worst crimes imaginable and we say to our children, 20 and 22 and 23, these are the people that you emulate. these are the people that you follow. these are the people that you can be like. they've been rabbited, but they they -- real estate habited --

rabbited. columbia should stand tall. it's standing low in a lot of americans' eyes today. it's very, very embarrassing. so bill ayers, those are your teachers in america today. >> steve: they keep the jobs long enough, they wind up with tenure. by the way, we did reach out to columbia. they declined any sort of comment. >> they should. >> steve: peter, thank you very much. crazy story. next up, running a marathon is a pretty awesome accomplishment. but how about competing in more than 1,000 races when you're a quadriplegic? that story is next and it will leave you speechless about a father and his son. and then caught on camera, rutgers university head coach pushing, shoving, and throwing balls at his players. should he be out of a job? we're live on campus with breaking details

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>> steve: talk about foul behavior on the court, rutgers head basketball coach mike rice caught on camera abuse his players. look at this. widespread outrage this morning that rutgers university knew about it, didn't can him. theresa live at rutgers with more. >> hey, good morning, steve. you'd be hard pressed to find an athlete who hasn't experienced tough love from their coach from time to time. by all accounts, this is not what went on here at rutgers university. coach mike rice's behavior of assaulting both physically and verbally assaulting his players, hurling gay slurs at them, just totally crossed the line by a lot of people's estimations. these videotaped practices apparently were from a few years

ago, but they came to light yesterday, according to the university, they were released to espn by a former employee who is suing the school for wrongful termination. rutgers is standing by coach rice. they suspended him for three games. they fined him $50,000. they order him to undergo anger management classes. they say they have no intention of firing him. still this is a story that is generating a lot of controversy. not only here on this campus, because of what they went through with a student bullied relentlessly here and later committed suicide, but also because of its impact on the sports world. here is lou holtz, a very well-known name in the sports world. take a listen. >> as a coach, you should never do anything physically with an athlete, lay your hands on them, et cetera. what the rutgers coach did was totally uncalled for, totally unacceptable. >> and by the way, this controversy has reached governor christie's desk. he called it deeply disturbing. that's the latest.

now become to you in the studio. >> steve: thank you very much for the live report. gretch? >> gretchen: thanks very much. some people run to stay fit. others run to blow off a little steam. our next guest runs with his wheelchair-bound son to inspire. dick hoyt is over 70 years old. he ran in marathons and triathalons with his son rick in toe. he joins me to tell me what motivates their journey. good morning to you n good morning. >> gretchen: i found out, you were an athlete. you're anth treat in high school, baseball, football, basketball. but then you got married, you had rick. it wasn't until you were 40, at rick's urging, that you started this whole race thing. what did he say to you? >> that's correct. rick was attending a basketball game. rick communicates with a computer and he has a said switch. he controls it. and so he went to a basketball game and he told me all about

this basketball player at westfield state college that was in an accident and was paralyzed from the waist down and they're going to have this charity road race to help raise money to help pay medical bills. rick came home from the game. he told me all about it and he said, dad, i have to do something for him. i want to let him know that life goes on even though he's paralyzed. i want to run in the race. at the time, i was 40 years old. i was not a runner. i used to run maybe three times a week, a mile each time, to keep my weight down. all we had was a wheelchair which was prescription form fit to do rick's body. we had a hard time pushing him in it let alone running in it. we went to the race, it was a five mile race. the gun went off and we took offment everybody thought we would go to the corner and turn around and come back. we didn't. we finished next to last, but not last. >> gretchen: now that journey has taken you for hundreds of races. you're about to do the boston marathon again. this will be your 31st time, except this time at the starting line, there is going to be what? >> there is going to be a bronze

statue. it's so huge because when rick was born, they said forget rick. put him in an symptoms he'll be nothing but a vegetable for the rest of his life. now he's turning into a bronze statue and it's a life size bronze statue and it's at the starting line for this year's marathon. >> gretchen: they gave you a miniature one. >> it weigh 300 pounds. >> gretchen: you want people to not only be inspired, you're 73. you look amazing. >> thank you. >> gretchen: but you also have a campaign with time ex, right? >> that's correct. i've been wearing a timex watch for 30 years. they have a program, i am a runner. it's for all different types of runners. it's for them to tell their motivational speeches and everything else and also if you need more information, you can go to timex sports facebook

page. >> gretchen: how long are you going to continue to do this? >> that's a good question. people say you're getting older. so right now there is no end in sight. but i can see it coming. >> gretchen: okay. you train four to five days a week and does a race every weekend in the summer. it's an amazing story. good luck to you next week. >> thank you. >> gretchen: a big debate in the wake of kevin ware's injury. should college athletes be paid to play? brian has his opinion. lou holtz didn't like it one bit. wait 'til you see this. and move over, old spice guy. meet the zesty guy? >> how zesty do you want it? a little? a little more? how about a lot more? >> gretchen: your salad has never looked so good. in fact, forget the salad. yeah. forget the dressing.

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okay? [ laughter ] >> steve: all right. if you were watching our program yesterday, you know we told you about kevin ware, college kid who shattered his leg and you saw it on tv. there is some suggestion he might actually lose his scholarship if he's unable to play and that got brian on a crusade, something you've been packsate about for a long time about whether or not college players should be paid. >> brian: when cbs has rights to 770 -- $10 billion check on an average of $777 million a year, when you see notre dame football generating $15 million annually from nbc, i'm saying what is the one indispensable thing? the player. what are they getting? just an education worth roughly $200,000 and it all could fall apart for them just like it did over the weekend for kevin. so we had lou holtz on. he -- >> steve: how did that go? >> brian: he couldn't disagree more and here it is.

>> you want a job? drop out of school g to work for wal-mart. you're not supposed to have an awful lot of money. you're not supposed to get rich in college. when i was in college and say you needed a hair cut, look in the mirror. i would look at my wallet. my wallet told me whether i needed a hair cut or not. is kentucky going to pay the athlete the same amount? >> brian: but coach -- >> where does it go? where does it end? who you going to take it away from. you're like the government, give everything away! >> brian: they are worth more to their university than just the average player. >> brian, one out of 1,000 are going to go on to play professional football. it's about the talent and experience and let me say this also, if you're a professional football player, your career is going to last basically four years. that means at age 27, your football is over, but -- >> brian: but you've been paid! >> where are you going to go from there? it's not about professional football. where you going to take the money and pay everybody exactly the same? it's ridiculous.

then you get unemployment insurance? that's all part of the game. that's having an injury. that happens. it happens in football. we're not there to do anything except get an education. that's one of the problems with college athletes today. people are there 'cause they want to go into the pros. you're there to get an education. >> brian: my whole point, but basically is everything the coach is making backs up my point in my mind n that these guys have a shortened would. this is it, only 1.3% will go pro in football and in basketball. 1.3% and those average careers last about three years. let alone the other superstars that just skip and go right there. so my point is, if the money is flowing in from the networks, from the contracts, from the arenas, why can't they get a stipend of $300,000 that's waiting for them when they graduate, only when they graduate, where it's around the bend. so the time they're taking away they can not study, they can not possibly compete, they can get rewarded for their unique

skills? we in this country get rewarded for unique skills. >> gretchen: really? because i dedicated -- let me pose a hypothetical you want to i dedicated my childhood to practicing the violin. >> brian: there wasn't a market for it. market demands -- >> gretchen: should i get a free ride to college, which i didn't get, and then also get paid for playing the violin in college? >> brian: the problem is, if there is a market, you should. there is a market for college football and basketball, not for college soccer. i'm a college soccer player. i had to buy my own shoes and we traveled in vans, not luxury buses. nobody complained. that's life. if soccer becomes more popular, then you get the buses and you get more -- >> steve: the e-mailers overwhelmingly disagree with you. you know that. however, i found one, monica writes, i agree with brian of the i play college ball. if we had a scholarship, even those with a partial, we couldn't get a job. we needed spending money. a little bit would be nice, like an allowance. i can't believe more athletes aren't writing in. maybe rules changed.

>> brian: how about this? you are the star linebacker on notre dame. you have an imaginary girlfriend. you want to go -- you see your jersey selling for $55 in the book store with your name on it! it's unamerican not to give that person a cut of that jerseys. >> gretchen: if they want to go to the pros they can. >> brian: this is their moment! this is the moment in which people write checks to watch them play, pay parking attendants and go into arenas to watch them play. they can't go pro. this is their moment and all they get is a free ride to take philosophy and physical education? >> gretchen: something happens that we are taking away the essence of what college is about, which is getting an education. it's not about playing sports. it's about getting an education. it's a problem that they are not there to also get a good education and do the sport. >> brian: they need more.

>> steve: you are talking about a lot of money and what do you think? e-mail us. that's what brown sounds like when lou holtz is not interrupting. >> brian: thank you. now headlines. it should have been a routine procedure. so how did a man, after getting his wisdom teeth pulled, die? 25-year-old man went into cardiac arrest after getting propothol during his surgery. that's the anesthetic that killed michael jackson, you may remember. an autopsy is being done now to determine the cause of death. he was a founding partner of a company called third dimension, which developed thermal and night vision equipment for a the military. should people have to get a hunting background check if they want to collect food stamps? lawmakers in north carolina think yes, they should. a committee voted to make the checks mandatory for anybody applying or renewing their application. more than 800,000 people use food stamps in that state. >> gretchen: move over, old spice guy. meet the zesty guy. >> how zesty do you want it?

a little? a little more? how about a lot more? >> gretchen: you probably never thought a salad dressing as hot. kraft is pouring it on thick with which they have. anderson davis, the actor and model, says his newfound fame has gotten him marriage proposals on-line. see, i think thatid it at the end when they tanned him up like that. >> steve: he had to look burned. >> gretchen: that was the only part i didn't like. >> brian: for more on that story, let's go out to maria molina. did they overdo it by making him look tan, do you think? >> i have to admit, i did not listen to what you were saying. there is a t-rex out here that is t-rexing, or growling, whatever they do. >> steve: that's a little distracting. first, tell us about the weather 'cause it's crazy in some parts. >> yes, it is. it is a very chilly start to the day out here in new york city.

we're talking temperatures currently in the 30s. not just in the city, but in surrounding areas across northeast. you factor in a little breeze and it feels even colder, in the 20s. currently 26 is your wind chill temperature in new york city. 24 in minneapolis. single digit wind chill temperatures across portions of new england. so you really got to bundle up today. lake effect snow still coming off of the great lakes out there. we actual lea had record snowfall in syracuse yesterday. otherwise very heavy rain coming down in portions of mississippi and louisiana and winter weather advisory in effect across the texas and oklahoma panhandles because we had a little snow out there and reports of freezing rain. [ laughter ] back inside, please. >> steve: it's a puppet! you're okay! >> brian: we did not book that t-rex. that is real.

>> steve: good job. you're able to concentrate, focus on the weather, even though the t rex is right there. nice boy. >> gretchen: brian, there is one more e-mail in your favor. >> brian: really? >> gretchen: yes. his point is more than well made. holtz underscored brian's justification. stay with it, brian. >> brian: all right. fine. thanks, mom. listen up, men. that's us. your days are numbered. new evidence that predicts guys will go extinct. >> steve: like the t rex. >> brian: a lot of empty suits. >> steve: and they fight on the front lines to defend our freedom. so why are our veterans being forced to fight for the benefits they earned and are entitled to? a closer look is coming up next live from new york city. ♪ we're all set to bundle your home and auto insurance together. i'll just press this, and you'll save on both. [bell dings] ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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this guy takes the cake. police arrested him for stealing cakes from the cake boss himself. even worse, he was giving them away for free. the suspect didn't want to wait in line. he later apologized and said he was drunk. guys, live it up while you can. one scientist says men are going extinct, just like the dinosaur. her prediction, the male species will be gone in 5 million years. he claims the genes in the y chromosome are diminishing. brian? >> brian: all right. thousands of men and women put their lives on the line to defend america, and our freedoms. yet there is an unacceptable back log of veterans' claims for benefits. according to the center for investigative reporting, thousands of veterans are waiting an average of 279 days for their benefits. some of them suffering from life-threatening illnesses along the way. joining us right now is john davis, director, elective

programs for the fleet reserve association and retired u.s. marine corps reserve and retired army national guard. lieutenant davis, welcome. >> thank you. >> brian: is this situation getting worse? >> it is getting worse. let me just say what the goal is, is to have a disability claim adjudicated and finished within 125 days and have 98% accuracy and as of january 2012, they had about 800,000 claims and 60% of those were over 125 days. then just this last february, there are over 900,000 claims and 70% of those are 125 days or older. so they're moving in the wrong direction. >> brian: so we have more guys and more women coming home that are going to need these benefits. what seems to be the problem? by nature, our military are people that get things done. what is going on? >> this is a major issue for our

membership and our national president, mark kilgore, recently testified before the that the and veterans affairs committee on our issues of concern and the backlog of claims was the number one issue and followed by agent orange as well, which is sort of a related issue. there is no quick fix and we are in dialogue with the department of veterans affairs on a fairly regular basis on trying to deal with this problem and they're at least trying to make an effort. they're not letting it overwhelm them. they're dealing with reforming the process, trying to streamline the process, retraining the people properly that are dealing with these claims, and also a big issue is technology, which they still need to work on a lot. >> brian: lieutenant, you said it would be a lot easier with the dod if they would take your records when you're at the department of defense and transfer it immediately to the v.a., that would eliminate a lot of the problem. >> yeah. there has been a long problem

for many, many years is that the d.o.d. and v.a. have different systems and they're not compatible, which makes it very difficult for the disabled veteran when they go to get out of the military and go to the v.a. to get care. we think this is a problem that needs to be dealt with right away and we are glad that the department of veterans affairs is in contact with us talking about this problem and trying to help it. but it's going in the wrong direction. >> brian: let's keep talking about it and try to pound this through and get it straightened out 'cause it's only going to get worse unless we do. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> brian: next up, we finish things up by getting ready to walk with the dinosaurs live on our plaza, but first, let's check in with martha mccallum who does not have the guts to go out and mess with the t rex. do you, martha? >> i'm safe up here. thanks, brian.

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>> steve: prowling our plaza today is a t rex dinosaur that is truly a blast from the past and now you can get in on the prehistoric fun when the field station dinosaurs park reopens this friday in new jersey. joining us now is guy gazelle, the creator, president and

executive producer of field station dinosaurs park. good morning. >> brian: what's the message to the people about t rex and company? >> the message is that every kid is a scientist and if they love dinosaurs, the place to discover and explore dinosaurs is right in new jersey. who knew? new jersey. >> gretchen: is this particular t rex there to greet the kids when they show up? >> every kid gets a chance to meet this guy. we've been spending the whole year trying to get this guy trained, trying to make sure that he's a little better behaved. but it's hard to teach an old dinosaur new tricks. >> steve: let's see the progress you've made so far. >> okay. down. down. as long as there are no sudden movements, way up high and roar! (roaring). >> yep. >> brian: is the t rex using the roar because he's insecure or because he's mad?

>> mostly 'cause he is actually mad. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: just for a little scientific background, this is not the real size of the real t rex, right? >> this is the -- this guy is a little guy. he's only five years old. he's a juvenile t rex. we also have three grownup t rexes there. they're 30 feet long. >> steve: oh, my goodness. how many dinosaurs in all? >> we have 36 dinosaurs in all at the park when you come as you explore, that's what you get to meet. >> brian: do we know for sure what wiped out the do insores or just going on rumor? >> it's mostly theory, because no one was around. but a lot of scientists think that it was an asteroid. >> steve: so it's an asteroid and not just being in new jersey killed them? >> yeah, well, could be either one actually. >> brian: traffic. >> steve: and so yours is more like a show than a museum? >> it is. there is a lot of theater. my background was in children's theater, so we're doing

performances. we're doing science talks. we're seeing rocks from outer space and lava. >> brian: in a moment, we'll come back. >> gretchen: i'm about to jump into the dinosaur because it's cold out here. >> steve: we're bringing t rexy back !

>> steve: fox friends friend didn't put lou holtz in that. >> brian: i know. >> gretchen: you're snuggling up? wooo! >> field station dinosaurs.com. >> brian: tomorrow's show, no dinosaurs. bob massi, all live. we'll beer