into the face all of the time. >> you have to get tough. not too tough but enough freedom to let them learn on their own helps them grow up. that's our show. thanks for watching. >> this is a fox news alert. i am leah gabrielle. an advisor briefed the president on an apparent hostage situation in australia. the police commissioner from south wales said they are doing all they can to find a peaceful resolution. australia media reports there are ten xhoi es. it shows two people holding up what appears to be a black flag with white arabic writing on it. australian'sjhañ prime ministero

speaking urging australians to do a better lesson. it is stronger supported by commonwealth agencies. we don't know the motivation of the perpetrator. we don't know whether this is politically motivated. obviously there are some indications it could be. >> the u.s. is reportedly evacuated our consulate in they are urges u.s. ingig lens. toop cure stef don't allow them to leave the ground. the commissipolice commissioner said there are hundreds on the ñ screen. we have following it closely and

give you up states when we believe them 1600 page spenda palosa. it was a bill that liberals and conservatives hated. elizabeth warren and nancy pelosi didn't like it because it didn't crush the banks. that would not create jobs. and conservatives hated it because it was packed with more spendingical rows than the triple bacon cheeseburger from hardy's. we were told that it was the best we could hope for. maybe it was. why did it end up getting burped out on the house floor hours before the deadline to vote. the whining of the speaker was. if the house didn't pass the bill right then, they might not get home before christmas. pardon me, i will not moisten a single u!mekleenix has to wo

get their job done. isn't that what they are paid for? the leadership looks like college students who complain all semester and complain about a all nighter. tough, you asked for the job and for god's sake do. it you weren't not sent to wring your hands and then give away the candy so you can go home and sip eggnog around the jobs. know millions don't have a job. and congress is the president wait until the last possible moment to set the budget and set the priorities for spending our money and then they congratulate themselves for cooking a bowl of slop to feed us. if they have to work christmas,

so be it. >> we have people serving all over the the globe and they will miss christmas at home. and if i shed tears for people working over the holidays, it is going to be for the sailors and soldiers and air men and marines and coast guard personnel that have my sympathy. how about a bag of switches and a lump of coal. (applause) >> the other big story coming out of washington this week was the senate's scatting report on the bush eran enhanced interrogation techniques. it cost the taxpayers 40 million and for 40 million, you think the democrats could have pretended to search for the truth. was senator finestien ticked for

them spying on e-mails? but the professor from mi t explained why he called americans stupid. democrats have a bad case of amnessia and even after 9/11 democrats were fearful of a terrorist attack and the cry from democrats and republicans a like was do whatever it takes to prevent another one. we have highly trained men and women in our intelligence community and every day they risk their lives to keep us safe. they put their lives and those of their family in danger if they are ever found out. and they operate under orders from the president and superiors. they are far from perfect but deserve our respect. what makes us different. we investigate our own practices and we question power and hold

people accountable. we don't cut the head off children because they are christian. we don't fly civilian airlines in buildings or blow up coffee shops or kidnap young girls and rape can kill them. the wholesale attempt to denigrate the service of those who obtained information that keeps us from being victims, that's disgusting. john u, is the professor of the berkley law school and legal counsel for the bush, that helped to write the memo that interidation tactics were legal. thank you for being back on the show. >> thank you, governor, great to be with you again. >> this has been a scathing partisan report from the senate. what do you feel like the affect

will be in the intelligence community? >> i couldn't agree more with what you said a moment ago, at the time this happen, we were on the map. we had just suffered a devastating terrorist attack that kill would 3000 civilians, hit major targets in new york and washington d.c. and we knew al-qaeda at th time. we knew more about north korea than al-qaeda then. and the president and the congress were unified and demanding that the cia to go on offensive. we asked them to take the fight to al-qaeda. and what bothers me, and let me add, an amazing record of success. no one back then would have said the united states will go without a massive terrorist attack for 13 years. no matter that record of success. and now a democrats in the

senate leed by senator feinstein that conducted a partisan investigation and no republicans and no witnesses were interviewed, this report as you said attacks those men and women, 13 years after the fact and what they have to do, they lied to all of us, because they can't quarrel with the level of success we achieve gw >> were you ever insulted by the committee? you were part of the discussion as to the legality of what is done. were you called as a witness? >> no, as you said it is biassed report. i used to work in the senate and conducted investigations. we do it bipartisan and interview witnesses. i would have happily testified to the committee about my role and the role of others. and this committee didn't. they want to cherry pick through

the evidence and build a case. as if we went to a trial and the the judge said only the prosecutor gets to present its side. and the defense can't show up. it was biassed because they decided on the conclusion before they started there was a lot of discussion in the white house and justice department and this indicates that there were questions raise the and there was a concern and what was the resolve. you were working under pressure and people saying don't let this happen again. none of us knew when the next one would take place. and give us insight in behind the scenes and what was6p™ goin and there was intense negotiation discussions taking place? >> let me say, it was a great question andzki÷ it was terribl it was terrible that our country had to think about these issues.

i wish i never had to and our country never had to. but it was not our choice. it was trust upon us by the enemy. and killing them in the middle east. and taking americans and we beheading them for sport. they launched a surprise attack on civilians. and there was great need for information. we have terrorist in the the american prisones that still haven't talked to us. we need information and using regular law enforcement questions was not working and unfortunately we had to ask, what can we do to get the information when it is of use to our.im: men and women in the ci we had to take into account laws that prohibited torteur.

we didn't want to torteur everyone. but what can we do that fatherer and don't dross the line with congress. >> thank you for joining us today. it is a pleasure to have you here. >> the next guest rounded up terrorist that promised him they would get back out and kill more americans and enhanced interrogation does work. form offer cian officer gary burnsten is next. burnsten is next. stststststst

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enhanced techniques could face arrest and be prosecuted for war crimes. more reasons to quit wasting our money on the the un. gary burn was a senior national security advisor for concerned veterans of america. and the author of jaw breaker. the attack on al-qaeda and bin laden. what is the morale like in the cia after this week's exposure? >> i have spoken with former colleagues who said the morale is offer and a culture of risk aversion there. >> that is not a good thing for our intelligence agencies to deal with. what does this do for a rekrautment if a young college grad is looking for a job.

how likely to be in the the cia right now? >> it is damageing and it will be hard to get foreign agents to work and when they see these things made public. >> the nonsense of u.n. talking about prosecuting people for war crimes because they interrogating someone. i am appalled by. that is theran an honest possibility that the u.n. would do this and the court and hague would indict president bush and dick cheny and secretary rumsfeld and specifically cia agents includingcsñ burnsten on the list. >> i believe it is likely the icc at the hague would use elements of the senate to do indictment upons against the individuals and anyone who was identified is likely to be indicted. if that happens, we should never

let another taxpayer dime go to the u.n. or icc and it would be a slap in the face of americans who tried to prevent terrorism. we are not signatories to the icc and any american, if you travel to a place that is a signatory, you could be taken into custody and taken over to the hague. >> unbelievable. talk about the the enhanced terrorism techniques. some say they don't work. you are involved in carrying out operations and you served overseas in afghanistan, do these techniques work or not? >> during the course of my career i worked with a lot of foreign services, for intelligence that use corosive methods successfully and i have seen countries that we work

againstous them against us. all of that is a fantasy. these people don't want the techniques used and i understand the reasoning of them not wanting them, but the idea they don't work is spurruous. >> none of us support true torteur. but most say it is not torteur, there is a difference. what is the line, gary, help us to understand. americans are confused, is it torture or not. >> eits are not torteur. you don't want to take it to the point where you cause physical damage to someone. but again, only uses them in cases of individual terrorist who have information on catastrophic information on the state. and we should only do that that going to kill tens of thousands of people. >> we are talking about the

classic example. ticking time bomb ticking and we can't wait until next month and we have to know it today. that's what you say would trigger the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques? >> yes, sir. >> when i think about the use of them, how frekwept or often were the techniques used? >> around the world, you would see that egypt and jordan and countries in the arab world use them regularly. and the united states has been aware of this and in the clinton eran and in the 1990s rendered people confidently and eit's were used against them. and no one is discussioning that right now. >> during the time of bill clinton, instead of us doing themming. another country would. we outsourced? >> yes, sir. it was all out sourced!

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the president of smith college kathleen mccartney responding to the black lives matter by sending an e-mail to her students that all lives matter. she got back lash from the protestors who said her comments diminish t diminish. >> i was unafraid it was used to

draw away from the focus of institutional violence against black people. i understand only to a small degrees because she it the a udasity of saying all lives matter. it doesn't matter if you are black white mail or female or jew, again tile or muslim, your life matters. we can only be a great america when we are one. and we recognize that rights and privileges for one are rights and privileges for all. and we see that we are not individuals apart from others but that we are truly one nation under god. man, i wish -- well, and before he became a big hollywood star, mark wahlberg grew up in a neighborhood close to boston.

he said his time in jail helped him to decide to turn his life around. he file would a petition for a pardon. he thought his attack blinded the victim in one eye. but that man johnnie trend said he did3&mp hurt me, but my lef was already gone and he was not responsible for. that he was young and restless, but i forgive him and everyone deserves another chance. and i think mark deserves another chance. if you were a governor of massachusetts, would you give him a pardon? given the remarkable way he lived his life as an adult and all of the things he did for veterans and the fact that he truly showed sorrow for the youthful actions and rehabilitated life, i would say absolutely i would. i might want a cameo role in his

next movie, that might be okay, too. this is the governor ryan reese. and that is the factor on the huckabee report. >> governor, did you so what president obama said on the colbert report? >> i guess i6.áç missed it. and the health goph website and frozen. >> where did he get that from? >> governor there is electricity in the air as they assem pel for the oscar ceremony. >> political figures? >> they are nominated for frozen. and ryan i thought frozen was a cartoon. >> no, it is a documentary about the obama care website. >> you mean to tell me that the president took your joke? >> can you believe it. he takes 40 percent of the

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>> this is a fox news alert. >> an apparent hostage situation continues to unfold at this hour in australia. an unknown number of people are being held hostage in a

chocolate shop in sydney. there are 10 employees 30 customers held inside. there are no reports of injuries at this time. security forces are out in force. they are treating this as a quote armed incident and are looking for a peaceful solution. there's one armed suspect at least inside the shop. some of the hostages have been lined up in the shop's windows with arms in the air hands pressed against the glass. there are two people holding up what appears to be a black flag with white arabic writing on it. they are looking at what is on the flag but they are not classifying it as a terrorist incident at this point. tony abbott addressed the nation earlier assuring fellow australians there. listen. >> the whole point of politically motivated violence is to scare people out of being themselves.

australia is a peaceful, open and generouscu society. nothing should ever change that. that is why i would urge all australians today to go about their business as usual. >> the u.s. is reportedly evacuated our consulate in the city as a precaution. issued an emergency warning to americans there. the news agency reports officials are urging u.s. officials to maintain a high level of vigilance and take extra steps to keep themselves safe. they are getting reports local schools are on lock down and are not allowing school groups to leave school grounds. sydney appears to be a hostage situation but police are not confirming that. we are following the story closely and will bring you updates as we get them. this has been a fox news report. i am lia gabriel from new york. >> called out on it. it is on a company e-mail and

shoes how arrogant they are. and probably a bunch of yes people around the executives and disrespectful to every african-american and the president in america. to think that it was a stupid party. you are going to meet the president. whether you are conservative or democrat you respect the president. >> it is refreshing to hear a democrat and liberal. i appreciate that you are willing to accept what they did was uncoinsiable. crystal if a conservative said something like this would they be working for sony today? >> they wouldn't at all. the media outrage would say, both mr. ruden and amy pa sca l ha fired. when conservative members of congress say something that they

thought was private and what demanded to do? public pressure by the mainstream media to leave audience. i didn't agree with mr. bundy, the rancher and the outrage hurled on for weeks. and what is troubling and i agree with imi ki. you have the first black president in the united states of america whom hollywood embraced and got him elected and behind his back joking about he only likes black movies. i want the president to come out and condemn, you know the elite hollywood, we know he will not do it. >> they give money. >> the disturbing thing, republicans attack him for his policies. i never heard that kind of language among the conservative toward the president and i was appalled by.

it we need to move on to the second topic. you got a couple of ivy league law schools. law schools. they are going to let their students delay their finals because they are so upset by the grand jury verdict. i would think that if a law school is upset about the jury verdict they are not involved in rethink their profession of going to be a lawyer. what is wrong with this? that's what they are. >> i am going to get booed. >> i agree with you. and i know they have to be comfortable in an industry where they are getting bad decisions all of the time. with that being said, the professors and the students have been involved in the court cases in the eric garner situation because they are practicing their legal skills. in new york things shut down after six clock and it is a hindrance in fields in new

york. they are involved in the protest and protesting the legal side of it and they delay classes for snow storms and sometimes the super bowl i've heard and different activities in the city. i don't think it is an extreme act but it is something that causes. >> are you crying or are you hurt by this? >> i am laughing. i mentioned it to my parents and this my mother's reaction. that is an excuse of taking exams. i think it was clumia and harvard and georgetown my almamatter. they will give them a reprieve if they feel they are traumatized by the deaths of eric and it was tragic they lost their lives. if you are not a direct relative, what are you traumatized over? and shouldn't you learn. we talked about this in the

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>> the receipt news from new york city and ferguson, missouri led to a lot of negative coverage of the police in the media. some politicians suggested that people should be afraid of the police. but police department in michigan show that their officers care for the citizens and in the spirit of the holidays, they had pleas apt surprises. >> xbox 1. that's what your kids want and the go to present for your kids? >> they are not going to have it. >> are you serious. >> oh, my god.

and they knocked it over. and it is. >> we need a new tv. >> thank you. something like this. all right. open up your dor. >> are you serious. >> got your christmas shopping done. >> she wants lego friends. >> hello friends and they want lego friends. and oh, my god. >> and they just -- and the high school. oh, my god. no way. no way. >> with i hug you? >> am i getting it. i am not getting a ticket if yo< want.

>> i love this story. >> and joining me is the lowle chief. so great to have you guys here. wow. this is so uplifting and i saw the youtube of it. chief, first of all, cops have been in the news lately and not for something good. and when you thought of the idea of presenting presents to people in routine traffic stops. did someone say it will not work. >> it was me. i wanted to think about it for a month. and i researched rob and the videos and i said it is crazy enough. it might work. >> you stopped people for tail light out or tinted windows and so it was a legitimate reason but not like for a drug bust? >> that's correct. and you go up there and the officers do, and they say you

have a little deal and what is going on, they didn't think it was christmas preponderates and what was the reaction when someone showed up something for christmas. they wanted to know how we pulled it off. >> what was the logistics of making it work. we had a time set up in a big box store to run and buy purchases and buy them and jump in the car and wrap on the way and hand it off. >> we had a ten minute window, we were a quick fast- moving machine and got out with the presents. >> did anybody curse your officers for stopping them. >> we had one lady in particular was late for a hair appointment and she reminded me of my mom and not late for that hair appointment.

>> and your mother is probably watching and i hope you get a plate at christmas. what was the kind of reaction you got they say? >> one family in particular sent us a thank you card and they got lego friends and scotter and the father called me yesterday, just in tears, we wanted to get our kids these gifts and we couldn't afford it and they asked if they had to give them back and i said no, it is for real. >> people all over the country have seen it. and did it achieve what you hope it achieved and inspired people at christmas time? >> i think so. so many good officers are out there and people act like one£i police department does one thing and it is it a mcdonald franchise and they are all the same. but they are not. there is a lot of police officers that are6vaxu out thert like these guys. >> it is a wonderful reminder of

what the true spirit of christmas is all approximate. chief, i want to say god bless you for participating in something. >> my pleasure. >> and rob, your videos are a blessing and i remember the one of grand rapids and the parade. i hope you keep america believing in itself. and got bless to both of you. and merry christmas. >> merryzh-y÷ christmas. (applause) >> many people seem to forget why we have christmas and the role it plays in american history. it is a series of dvd's that teach our kids and grandkids, american history. and you would like to see one. go to free christmas present.comand get a free dvd to learn our history. a year ago country fans lost

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♪ ♪ this thing of ours ♪ this thing of ours ♪ this love we share ♪ the comfort knowing [ applause ] country music lost a legend on december 16th of 2013. ray price. those of you who watch this show know what an inspiration he's been to me. one of the greatest honors of my life was to meet him and have the privilege of playing with him twice on this show. once with another great from the country world, willie nelson.

♪ crazy for trying ♪ and crazy for crying ♪ and i'm crazy for the love of you ♪ >> well, i have known for a long time who the real singer is, and this is the gentleman right over here, ray price. >> he is fantastic. >> in 2012 ray price was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. he wanted to do one more thing before his time here was done, and that's record another album. that album, titled "beauty is," was released april the 4th, months after his death. the inspiration behind this album, he said, was his love for his wife, jany. joining me now is janie price. it's so nice to have you here. [ applause ] >> what an honor to be here. >> when you hear ray singing, you see the song on the screen, what kind of memories come back for you? >> oh, my mind just floods with millions of memories. he was such a wonderful husband, and he was such a dedicated

person to awful his friends and fa fans. and all i can think about is how much i wish he was still here. >> i think we all do who were fans of ray price. when he was diagnosed with cancer and he said to you janie, i want to record another album, i mean, now his health is declining. did you think there was no way he was going to be able to pull it off? what was your reaction to that? >> well, i knew ray price. and i knew that he could do what he wanted to do. i never had a doubt. my only concern was that his health and his safety during the transport up there and coming back. but this man did tall on his own. he just kept coming back. he kept recovering from each one of these treatments. and he kept going back until he got it finished. i never doubted that he would not finish. >> you were the inspiration for this. you didn't know that at the time when he started. he later told you that he did this because he wanted to do it as a tribute to you. what did you say to him when he let you know this? >> well, he wasn't the one who

told me. fred foster, the producer, is the one who called ray. we had just left the physical rehab center. he was getting ready to go back to houston for another treatment. and he called ray, and he said, we have got the final mix. and i think you're going to be really pleased. now hand the phone to janie. and so he handed the phone to me. fred never spoke to me. these guys always talked with each other. and he said, janie, how does it feel to be the most loved person in the world? and i said, oh, my goodness, what do you mean in and he said, ray price told me he recorded this specifically for you. especially for you. and of course you know what happened. >> well, i'm glad you shared with the rest of the world this magnificent album because it's some of the best work that ray's ever done, and that's saying a lot. but ray's career was not without some controversy. because when he brought orchestration and strings to what had been a very different kind of country music, there were people who thought ray price is messing country all up. now they think he's a genius.

but back when he first introduced it, janie, he went through some tough times with people who rejected his idea of expanding the reach of country. did he feel vindicated and validated by the end of his life over this? >> i think vindicated would probably be a pretty good word for ray price. yes, he did feel that. and not only that, he felt a great sense of accomplishment for having been the person to have opened the doors for so many people to follow behind him. that was his big thing, and he was so proud of all of those who came. willie nelson and roger miller and johnny paycheck. and everyone knows the stories. but ray side he felt like he was a trailblazer, and ray was a great historian of our country's -- all the of the way that things were settled. and he loved daniel boone and david crockett and all those stories. and he said i feel like maybe that was what i've been. and he was so proud of that. >> janie, thank you so much for being here. [ applause ] >> we love ray, and we love you

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this is mike huckabee from new york. good night. god bless. and merry christmas. oh, and stay tuned for "justice with judge jeanine." [ applause ] this is a fox news alert. in new york i'm leah gabriel. an apparent hostage situation drags on in a chocolate cafe in australia with no resolution in sight. the tense drama's been going on for about five hours now. as you can see, cops have swarmed around the cafe, and just a short time ago the associated press reported that two people ran out of the building where this situation is unfolding. authorities have not confirmed the number of hostages, but australian media reports there are ten employees, 30 customers being held inside. video shows several people along a window with their hands in the air. it also showed two people holding up what appear to be a black flag with white arabic writing on it. the