>> quick correction. earlier reported on the women's world cup and mistakenly called abby wambach the coach. she is are forward for the team. apologize for the error. jon: hope she gets to play. see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" begins now. ♪ >> this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, andrea tantaros, host of "kennedy" on our sister network fox business's kennedy herself. the author of american wife, taya kyle. today's #oneluckyguy, welcome back to the coach. host of making money with charles payne and fbn charles payne himself. nice being back. >> nice being back. >> day i can't so great to have you back. your husband american hero. i know your life inspired the movie "american sniper." there are updates on the journey. >> thank you.

>> thanks for having me. >> let's get to the news. right now huge crowds are gathering at the statehouse in columbia, south carolina. they want to see the confederate battle flag come down. they join many others who see the flag as a symbol of hate and decision. less than 24 hours after the state's governor, nikki haley said it is time for the flag to go. these fast-paced developments after an avowed white supremacist opened fire at a historic black church in charleston. he confessed to killing nine worshipers at a bible study. here is governor hayley. >> we are here at at moment of unity without ill will saying it is time to move the flag from the capitol grounds. [cheers and applause] >> john roberts is love with more. hey, john. >> good afternoon to you. this is real about face for governor nikki haley which for years didn't want to get near

the debate. flanked by republicans and democrats alike. she said while the confederate flag is powerful symbol of south carolina heritage for many people, to others it deeply offensive symbol of a brutally oaf fence sieve past, those are quotes, after the shooter appeared in photographs with the cone fed rat flag it was time to move it away from the statehouse. in a rally at the capitol, local leaders applauded her call. >> time for south carolina to get past its history. history belongs in a place. it belongs in a museum. not on sovereign ground. we're coming together as one people, friday night, reverend and i were together at td arena. we said charleston could be a light to the world to show how in south carolina, if we can get past the things that divide us, to show us how it makes us better the whole country can do it. >> reporter: of all the republican presidential candidates, lindsey graham of south carolina was only one to call for the flag to be removed

saying quote, i hope by removing the flag we can take another step toward healing and recognition and a sign south carolina is moving forward. the other republican candidates said this is an issue best decided by the state but they are supportive of what south carolina did. though she is outsider, hillary clinton tweeted as i said for years, taking down the confederate flag is something to do. sons of confederate there is no link to what happened last week in charleston. the flag wasn't responsible. a hate-filled young man was. the veterans of the said they will accept the decision the legislature makes. other states like mississippi the speaker of the house is cacalling for the confederate battle flag to be removed from the mississippi state flag 14 years ago. there was similar discussion. when put to referendum people

voted by two to one margin to leave it as it was. corporations getting involved. walmart and sears removing merchandise removing the confederate flag from stores and websites. sources i talked to said south carolina lawmakers are can get the flag to move if they limit it to the flag. if they talk about the war memorial and renaming other buildings it gets dicey. one republican state senator is completely opposed to this call the attempt to move the flag a stalinist purge. we should point out in states like texas and tennessee, there are moves to remove confederate statues. this may not end with the flag. >> we'll bring it out to the couch. i want to start this. charles i will come to you first. darrell jackson, democratic state senator in south carolina said the politics of the flag are the politics of the primary voter. he sees this going forward in

south carolina's primary. we have to be careful here. i will paraphrase him this needs a supermajority in the state senate and house to pass there. he sees this framed more like it is local issue, it is politics. >> i do think ultimately up to individual states to determine what they fly over their state capitol on government grounds. you know, as far as the flag itself i will tell you my own one little story. when i joined the air force my first base was in minority north dakota. as we pulled up to the dorm, there were eight or nine windows with the stars and bars hanging in them. it was frightening, 10 days into my 18th birth day, coming from new york, to see that i thought i took it as a negative. i was afraid. i was angry. i couldn't understand that. i wasn't, irony of course over the next year-and-a-half two years, i think i became friends with seven of the eight. we had some pretty honest discussions about what the flag meant with them. >> did at the tell you what the flag meant to them. >> i got to tell you something

it was really interesting people say, listen my daddy is in the clan. that kind of thing. or means southern heritage. meant different things to different people. it was interesting as teenagers, we were all teenagers young 20s, we had the discussion. the flag does have a negative or a scary message to different people, certainly my grandmother who never had a pillow. slept with her arms folded to hear the night riders. someone like that, my mom would have a different reaction. >> different meanings to different people. >> sure. >> this has become a national conversation and debate people are having. >> i'm not a fan of overreacting to certain things. in political correctness type situations a lot of times i think, to not be able to call, you know a dark bread squaw bread or something i think that is maybe overreacting. in this situation, like you said people will say it has absolutely nothing to do with slavery. there was slavery in the north.

there was slavery in the south. it really has nothing to do with that for a lot of people. but i think it is important especially after an incident at that church if we need to send a message. that sends a message. protects your feelings then i think that is important. it is not harmful to bring it down and put it in a museum. because it has unfortunately a symbol of something i don't think it originally stood for. and then, just, to wrap that up for me, this kid this evil little person, who went out and did that and wore a confederate flag unfortunately, racism is is alive and well in some areas. taking down the confederate flag isn't going to stop it. >> interesting. dr. ben carson, republican presidential candidate, said something similar. i will paraphrase him too. look you can fly or not fly any flag you want but changing men and women's hearts is salient issue. >> and mental illness. to taya's point you can take

down a flag, there is epidemic of mental illness that flag removal will not solve. >> we do not know he is mentally ill. >> we do know the other topics on the couch from james holmes to other shooters, we've seen this movie before, shooters who have a history of mental illness. i don't think a flag or movie-goers in the instance of colorado would have stopped any of them. i want to talk a little bit about the history of the confederate flag because that seems to be up a bit for debate. i will say, this is npr giving a deep dive on history of it. it was flown over that state capitol in south carolina by a democrat. a democratic governor fritz hollings. it was controversial. it always has been. rightfully so i think it is offensive. i agree with charles. -- >> that was states rights by federal government they raised it. it was a more, f-u to the federal government. the naacp asked the state to remove it numerous times and business owners. the state resisted.

i want to say i'm so proud it was a republican, nikki haley who finally pushed to individual removed. >> in 2000 they took it off the capitol. >> off the dome. >> they put it on the war memorial there. that brings me to another point kennedy, with you. >> yes. >> people who are talking are not necessarily talking about the meaning of the flag. >> no. >> when they don't support taking thi war memorial has more to do with other monuments that exist across the united states. i did a brain room check. there are at least 10 other monuments with the united states dedicated to that era of history. >> yeah. >> so their concern this is slippery slope. if you remove one part of one monument will you see that feather out in states like west virginia, virginia, baltimore, maryland where they have other confederate monuments. >> historical monuments have the different context of a symbol of a flag. a flag is an active thing. something you're waving. for a lot of people it's a way of life they're representing. charles talks about there are

people who have very negative reactions to the confederate flag. there are people who have very positive reactions to it. but in this case i think the negative certainly outweigh the positives. i think symbol of the flag is outdated. i really think it is time for south carolina especially in the wake of this tragedy as they are trying to come to grips what happened heal from it i think it is their decision and i think it is the right decision. >> i would say they should keep memorials as they are. whatever statues as part of history i don't think you should touch them. >> it is also really interesting in all this, to wrap this up they have this conversation. we don't want to take our eyes off the nine victims. we earnings inned this yesterday. this came, this debate came so quickly after that tragedy that you don't want to lose sight of what we lost. >> you want to do something. you want to react. you want to feel like you can do something to help heal the place you live. >> you think this is where the conversation is coming from? >> i think it bubbled up. >> i'm glad republicans were the ones to start to heal and move

forward to make that effort. nikki haley deserves a lot of credit. >> there is a rally going on in south carolina regarding this on state grounds. we'll cover the news as it happens. meanwhile the white house is expected to announce a shift of policy of saving hostages after islamic state terrorists beheaded three americans. is making changes the right thing to do when it comes to protecting our citizens from those savages? a hearing on capitol hill. lawmakers grilling the woman in charge of an agency that was hacked. we're learning now up to 30 million people could have been compromised. that is seven times more than the government first told us about. their personal information like background checks and security, oh there is so much more to tell you. then there is more of us after the tv version wraps up at the to of the hour. foxnews.com/outnumbered. click on the overtime tab. we have live chat to you can tune in and chat at the same

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want to bring you this sad news out of the world of entertainment. 86-year-old dick van patten has died. many of us knew and loved him as legendary tv actor dad on eight is enough. later on fox news channel we'll have much more. we wanted to bring you this news. he passed away in santa monica, according to families and representatives from complications of diabetes. dick van patten, with the tv show "eight is enough." he did so much more in his career. we'll talk about later today on fox news. dick van patten, 86 dead today. >> well the white house reportedly briefing some families of u.s. hostages today about a shift in how it tries to save americans held captive overseas. tomorrow the administration will publicly announce the changes will reportedly allow families to pay ransoms for their loved ones without fear of prosecution. a probe that was launched last year after the obama administration was criticized

for failing to do more to bring back missing american journalist james foley and steven sotloff and aid worker peter kassig. all of them were beheaded by isis. since then three other americans have been killed while in militant custody. i want to go to you first, taya. the administration doesn't seem to have a policy when it comes to getting u.s. hostages back. should we? >> you know i think there is a very personal thing. you know, i do go back a little bit to the benghazi thing if you will bear with me for a minute. hillary clinton saying soaething like people die in america every day. is so in the face of what it is like for a family member. if that was her daughter over there i don't think she would have the same take on it. so by involving the family members i think you get a more impassioned response and i think you get a well-thought out response. you have to be careful when you're negative negotiating with

terrorists or anything else kidnapping for ransom or beheading because it only encourages more. the whole somali pirate issue. the pirates were out there. became a way of life. you show up. give them the money. they leave. put it into the business plan this amount of money would go to them. so in contrast to that when they hit an american ship and killed them, they will think twice about hitting another another american ship. i think unfortunately these are not people to be talked to. they are not people we can have a cup of coffee and reason with. so i feel that it is good to involve the family members and i also feel like if you want it to stop you better hit hard, better hit fast. you better show them, it is okay you can kill our people. you want to take a hostage, we're coming. >> the one thing i'm glad you put it that way taya the one thing i thought when i read this is this administration trying to absolve itself from some of the

responsibility having to get americans in harm's way back. we want to be careful going down that road as you point out. if we extricate ourselves so much it will be part of a business plan for savages out there. it is a fine line the white house sees it walking. they're making it about the money portion. but really it is about the support portion. one thing to say, kennedy i will not come after you if you do money deal with terrorists. if you don't want to do the deal, you want us to get your loved ones, those are two different conversations. what i hope is happening here, not that the white house is not trying to muddy the gray area, to make them all one conversation because it is different. >> seems like the message from the administration, kennedy, is, if you go overseas if you're an aid worker, you're on your own. >> there is a level of suped risk. everyone who knows that when they go over there, whether they put on the uniform or work for an ngo they know that but again you have to go back to the

families. if it is your family member other your brother or mom or someone else taken captive of course you want to -- there is so much gray area. kayla mueller's family, james foley's family, they were upset by their interface with the administration and federal government. they got contradictory answers. they felt like they didn't get help. they felt the government didn't have their back. >> it was a money issue. >> charles you follow money but it is per than money as harris said we sat here on the couch after the president gave remarks about beheading of james foley and went golfing. >> sure. >> this is bigger than at administration. >> can we say first and foremost, let's crisis once and for all? that would make all of this a moot point. if we had real solid policy to go in there and destroy these people this wouldn't happen. having said that, this is part of their business model. they are starving money.

they lure the kids over. promise them things. they give them money. they need to steal cash and sale of stolen artifacts. they need ransom. if an american family can afford to bring a loved one home. i don't have a problem with it. my problem how the hell did we get here in the first place because of this fickle policy where the administration doesn't know what it wants to do with an enemy in four countries right now and wants to kill all americans. >> if it were only just isis. but as you point out taya, it is pirates and boko haram. >> or isis or boko haram. terrorist groups is what i'm talking about. >> i think what just smacks in the face is thinking of the bergdahl trade. >> yeah, the five. >> the families do not get their familily members back but they get a deserter back for five taliban prisoners. >> i'm your father. look at my bead. >> massive hack impacted millions of federal workers. much bigger than what the obama

administration originally let on. a senior source telling fox news, it could have reached as many as 30 million people, the office of personnel management, originally said just over four million workers were affected by the breach. and that is a big part of a hearing going on today on capitol hill. lawmakers are grilling the director of the agency. they want to know what went wrong and how to stop it from happening again. here is some of what she told them earlier. >> unfortunately these attacks will not stop, if anything, they will increase. although opm has taken significant steps to meet our responsibility to secure personnel data, it is clear that opm needs to accelerate these efforts, not only for those individuals personally but also as a matter of national security. >> all right, harris, i said it before i will say it again whoever has the best hackers wins. right now unfortunately these

nefarious chinese operatives have one up on us. the federal government not exactly being transparent about number of people affected. who do you blame? >> first of all i don't agree that we don't have the best hackers. i think we do. >> i think we have phenomenal hackers. >> government will not talk to any of them. we had a guest right on this couch last week, andrea, last week who said, we tried to offer the government our services for free, right? the government wouldn't take it. you said that was because it was too cheap. the question becomes, how do we get our government demographically to look more like the people coming after us now? i know i will take male on that. are you calling them old? no i'm calling them skillset not matched with job okay? we have these people among us. we know we have the cash to pay them. let's go out to hire these guys. as charles said, about isis, let's go after these hackers and lay them out. >> we are the in middle of a cyber war period, bottom line.

china and russia are winning. to donald trump's point about spending $5 billion on obamacare website really doesn't work real well harris, you're right. we have people who volunteered. by the way these chinese hackers probably went to an american university in the first place to get these skills before they went back over there so it's nuts. the government is ridiculous. we are losing this battle, hard for anybody to feel comfortable with their own personal information if it the government can't protect people with secret clearance. >> why would you expect the government to protect in any situation. even voting machines can be easily compromised. what do you do, taya? >> i don't know the answer for that one because i don't know exactly what went wrong. it is very frustrating to me, to charles's point, the discussion how many people were affected four million 13 million, 30 million just fix it. >> who knows if you have to give 30 million new social security

numbers. >> i would like to know the answer to that question, i got a letter i may be part of the 18 million because i spent years in the house of rest. this is a broad broad swath of federal employees, not just current, but just past. am i getting a letter. sure enough, came home. got my letter around i need to call lifelock. >> there is evidence they're selling health records for $500 a pop. already stiff getting out there. >> there are your subsidies. >> when we get stories of doing "star trek" videos and slim on a treadmill and guy in the bathtub, we have the money. we have a bunch of people doing nothing but downloading porn at some of these agencies, why don't we get rid of them and bring on -- >> we have plenty of redundant programs. overspending for the same thing. therefore we must talk about hillary clinton. she may have emerged from a rocky campaign launch. new polling showing her as a shoo-in for the nomination.

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others like jim webb and martin o'malley in low single digits. head-to-head with republicans jeb bush marco rubio scott walker leading the former florida governor 48-40%. topping senator rubio and governor walker by double digits. don't count on deem clinton to gloat just yet. her campaign is reportedly tamping down expectation as bernie sanders is pulling in big crowds, a sign they have learned the hard lesson of the last go round back in 2007. clinton was the clear frontrunner, remember in the polls. we all know how that turned out. i think they're managing expectation, kennedy. over the weekend former clinton aid was making her rounds on the sunday shows and she said, quote, i would not be surprised if bernie sanders wins new hampshire or in iowa. >> oh, yeah. now they're putting the old onus on bernie. and i think i have said this before on "outnumbered overtime" but i have not said it publicly

as much here. i will go ahead and say this i will share this. you're seeing this more and more libertarians might bristle at the comparison, bernie sanders is the ron paul of the left. certainly in this campaign. he is galvanizing and exciting younger voters who totally wouldn't show up for a 2016 election. and it is just the apathetic democrat establishment voters then sure she is a shoo-in, but when you have other types who are totally underserved by both parties you will see some interesting things start to happen. >> yeah, you mentioned new hampshire and iowa. i'm glad you did. you look at the states, how could this be. among democratic voters polling bernie sanders has a one-third of the vote. with the up or down in the polling five or six points, that puts them close together. i think more importantly opens door for somebody to get in like vice president joe biden. i've been saying that since

january. >> is it too late. >> i don't this so. >> there is a whisper campaign joe biden potentially getting in. i want to go to you i think something else is happening here. it is not just managing expectations and lowering the bar which you have to do on political campaigns especially if you're clinton and you lost before. i think they want to make sure that the base doesn't think she has got it in the bag. they have to keep them motivated. if they start to scare the democratic party into thinking bernie sanders can win, people don't want to have a socialist run the party they will give money. >> hillary clinton is master of twisting just about everything that she has come into, right? >> yeah. >> even the fact she is doing well she has a twist and like a chess game. she has been very, very successful doing that. that is so frustrating to me the fact that we're talking about hillary clinton doing anything especially leading our country is so frustrating to me because of her lack of morality and lack of concern and

compassion and twist and turns that have been successful. it blows my mind. does it surprise me they're taming down expectations? no. you will see a whole lot more twists and turns and manipulations of hillary clinton through the campaign and god forbid if she got elected. >> a lot of democrats see hillary clinton in trouble. she is not authentic. she is a shady lady. the tingle up the legs for bernie sanders has a lot more energy than -- >> mrs. clinton. >> here is two things. if hillary clinton lost iowa and new hampshire she would have a nervous breakdown. she is not prepared to lose either one. i don't care what her camp says. she would be devastatated. as far as socialist taking over the democratic party, too late. the defacto leader of the democratic party, elizabeth warren, if she jumps in it is hers to take. she is the puppet master. she controls going on there. look at trouble president obama happening with trade bill. she controls all of this. she is controlling hillary clinton who is going to run far

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discrimination. societies don't overnight completely erase everything that happened two to 300 years prior. >> the blow back has been furious, from civil rights activist who believe the "n" word should never be used no matter what the context. white house press secretary josh earnest said it was obvious why the president used the word to make his point and the president does not regret saying it. >> he does not. the president's use of the word and reason he used word could not be more apparent from the context of his discussion on the podcast. the president made clear that it is not possible to judge the nation's progress on race issues based solely on an evaluation of our country's manners. >> then josh earnest probably wanted to go on vacation. as you can imagine that explanation is not going over with the president's critics on this marc morial, president of the national urban league ad this to say quote, the "n" word

never had a positive meaning. it was designed and that word deserves to be along the confederate flag the hood, the museum the noose. the white house legitimizing issue when it came up at the press briefing yesterday. we've got another one scheduled right now. we'll watch that to see if he is asked about it again. >> he probably will be. i got to tell you as a black man there is only one time i use the "n" word, when i feel like i'm being trited like the "n" word and i want to make a statement, there is one thing worse than the "n" word being treated like the "n" word. it is interesting to have any civil rights organization say they're against it when they give out plaques trophies to certificates to the rappers whose every other lyric is n word and phony connotation by hijacking the word they're lessening the meaning of it and they have taken power and control over the word. no you have not.

and, so i, it is so tough because these are lyrics all kids listen to, not just black, hispanic white. you could be on a subway station and hear two puerto rican kids calling themselves the "n" word. it is nuts! he didn't have to say it. there was no passion anger, animosity. he wanted us to talk about today. i think that is only thing. >> taya, is it presidential? >> you know what? i like a man to be a man right? i'm tired of the smoke and mirrors. worried about people worried about political correctness to be real and say what is on their mind. this doesn't bother me. this is a word that has been used. i don't think he has to back away from it or cow down to it. that a fair point. it is true. so unless you're looking at it is saying the "f" word and that is not presidential i get that

i do. at the same time a fact is a fact. i think is point is fair. >> the show the president was interviewed is called wtf. what the fridge. that is not what it stands for. so josh earnest said yesterday you know, just some interview in somebody's garage. if it is subpar for the president to do, my question was he in the interview? curious the general gist of his all. >> mark maron has popular podcast. people love his show. it is funny and honest. he found a home for himself. i love the digital wild west. you can recreate yourself. i think the president is trying to latch on to that cultural zeitgeist. you know what bothered me and i understand where people are coming from when they say if we use the words and we do take the power away from it, i don't necessarily agree with it. >> right. >> but the president kind of laughed when he said it. almost an acknowledgement he knew what he was doing was crossing the line.

i think he could have made such an effective point if he just said, the "n" word. >> right. >> i had a question, that is such a good point kennedy. i'm watching this, andrea, without the bleep which audience is he playing too for legacy now? >> my biggest question why. why did he do it? why did he go on the podcast? we know he is trying to avoid the mainstream media. he sat down with glo green who ate fruit loops in a bathtub. i took this message as the president still saying that we are a racist country. that is basically what he is saying. you can take this word away but still we are racist. look, he was elected twice. i think that is not a fair point for him to say. but i also do think, yes there are instances of racism of course. we saw it in south carolina. my question harris, why. what is he proposing? a solution? does he think the government

should get involved? why did he do that yesterday? it seemed like it was deliberate. he is very smart. i would ask, what is his point here? >> what is the point here. by the way he is scheduled to give the eulogy at pastor pinckney's funeral on friday. you have this conversation going on. i said this earlier, distracts, detracts so much from the lives we lost in south carolina. it is making news and white house legitimizes it by answering that question. moving on, "american sniper" director clint eastwood, did you know this? he turned down his own son for a role in that movie that told the real life story of navy seal chris kyle. chris's wife, taya is with us today. she will tell us her thoughts on that the lesson in it for everybody. stay with us.

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the film tells the real-life story of navy seal chris kyle the most lethal sniper in american history. it was directed by clint eastwood, who reportedly turned down his son for a role in the film. that's right. 29-year-old scott eastwood was denied a part in his dad's movie. scott says he would have loved to play chris kyle's brother in the film but his father in old school. doesn't believe in handouts but succeeding through hard work. of course we're joined today by taya kyle. taya got to spend time with the cast and crew of "american sniper." the movie based on her late husband's book. taya, this movie was incredible. you got to work behind the scenes with clint eastwood. are you surprised that he had some tough love for his son scott? >> not surprised. i applaud it. you know, thinking about it, this morning, because i actually didn't know his son had applied for a role but you know when you're kids playing a game with them let them win from early age it is not that special.

when you always win and all of sudden they win on their own merit they remember the day they remember the year, how old they were. because they know they earned it. i feel like this is perfect example of showing his son that when he earns it, it is on his own. nobody will be able to look at that kid and say yeah, your dad is clint eastwood. so you had it easy. they know you earned it. >> this is rare lesson in who way. you see some hollywood stars helping out their kids. we got to meet scott eastwood here when premiering his movie. very down-to-earth and good guy. clint did a good job. >> i actually had a chat with him about his relationship with his dad at that party we had for him. it was a meet-and-greet as that film was coming out. around he told me, you know, my dad really wanted me to be known as scott eastwood. he said, you know, it was kind of a weird thing for my wiki page what was i going to say? you pretty much have to say clint eastwood because you look

just like him. i think he appreciates it. i don't think he is one of those people who says dad will help me out on the next one. i think he owns it. >> if he wasn't good enough. his dad would have to do it because his son would fail, that is different story. almost a sign of respect you got this. >> if it wasn't right for the part. thing i love about clint eastwood his son auditioned for several of his films. his dad didn't call him son, you're not right. you have to grow as an actor. he just doesn't call. that is how he knows he hasn't made his dad's film. he stares at his phone for weeks at a time. >> just so you know he is notorious for that. he does not like confrontation as much as you think he could handle it. avoids it at all cost. that is who he is. that does not surprise me in the least. >> sounds like my. charles, you know those actors who have children are helped out. you watch them in the film, oh, they stink. you can always tell ones who don't earn it. i won't name.

>> like sophia coppola, godfather iii? >> she would admit that she is amazing director. ch better suited as a director. >> nick cage. changing the name, we still know who your uncle is, right? listen it a tough thing. you want to help your kids to a certain degree. no doubt about it. for me the movie at the end of the movie i felt like, as an american i haven't done enough. i just wanted to say applaud you and your husband. because it is a humbling movie. i just, when i left that movie i couldn't believe any one, any college, any person would be against that movie. what it meant to me, as an american i can always do more. just to switch topics i want to say thanks. >> thank you. i'm glad you got that out of movie. >> taya, i get sad when i think about it, because that is the emotion that movie leads you down the road, the love story between the two of you and how

you met. the bar scene and, it was, you are a tough cookie. you are a tough cookie. learning that from sitting next to you today. that was really fun to watch your relationship. >> well i'm glad. i'm glad they had at least a little bit of that. most of the book and movie taya is crying, taya is crying. most of our life we were laughing. i talk about that a little bit in american wife more. the relationship, it was good. >> "american wife" is a great book. if you've seen "american sniper" you have to follow up to get to know taya. it is very funny and gives a look at behind the scenes which you didn't get to see as much on "american sniper" of the happier parts. >> thank you. >> your husband, taya a true american hero. we'll be right back. heartburn! no one burns on my watch! try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmm...amazing. i have heartburn.

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