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obamacare and the iran sanctions. for now, a snow day for grade schoolers from d.c. to northern new jersey. ♪ ♪ andrea: this is "outnumbered," i'm andrea tantaros, and here with us today, haste faulkner -- harris faulkner, sandra smith, kennedy, and today's #oneluckyguy, co-host of "after the bell" on fbn, the one and only david asman. you're outnumbered. >> thank you all very much. andrea: and you're starting off a huge political week. >> yeah, big one. one week to go before iowa. harris: i feel like we need a drum roll. andrea: you want to do it? harris: kennedy should. see? she's so good at that. andrea: just seven days until the first in the nation iowa caucuses. new fox news polling shows donald trump rising and ted cruz

sinking in the hawkeye state. the billionaire businessman now besting the texas senator 34-23%. three weeks ago cruz was leading, and more good news for the donald in new hampshire where voters head to the polls just eight days after iowa on february 9th. trump continues his domination in the granite state, garnering more than twice the support of his nearest competitors. fox news poll showing trump at 31% followed by cruz at 14 and marco rubio at 13%. all right, david, so looking at these numbers can you really count a cruz or a rubio out in iowa? because it's very different than the way that the other states are set up. it's a caucus. >> that's true. andrea: you've got to make sure that your supporters show up, that they stay and pull the lever for you. >> well, we saw with santorum just a few dozen votes can make the difference. of there's something slightly sur vale or un-- surreal or

unreal about what happens in iowa compared to the rest of the country. some people thought, by the way, that national review slam on donald last week was going to do a lot in iowa because there are a lot of older caucusgoers that revere national review and would do a lot of what it says. but clearly, it doesn't seem to be hurting the donald. he's still doing better. as far as rubio and cruz are concerned, i really think it's they're still playing catch-up with donald. i know donald is a little bit behind, but he could -- his momentum is going in the right direction. i didn't mean to switch it to a donald discussion from a rubio discussion, but i think that's where it is, yeah. sandra: andrea, you ended that with and they've still got to pull the lever, i mean, this polling revealed that a third of republican caucusgoers may change their minds. 3 opinion 3%. -- 33%. even one in four trump supporters say they may ultimately vote for a different candidate.

so a lot's changed in two weeks from the the time this polling took place, and a lot can still change before february 1st. donald trump is still going to have to be out there battling to maintain that support that he's getting. andrea: and, harris, these polls also are showing 300,000 aye wans, but -- iowans, but how accurate are these polls at this point? harris: we talked a lot about this on the fox report last night, we had path caddell who is a former pollster for president carter years ark and he said when you get north of about 120,000 caucus gallon goers, that's probably more of a ted cruz. when you get into numbers like 150 and beyond like what you're talking about, that may give donald trump quite the advantage because those are first-time caucusgoers. and they're more likely to switch, don't really know what they're going to do. for one thing, but they've never been through that process. and quite frankly, it is daunting.

you spend all night long with all your neighbors, and you do all of this, and at the end of the night you're still focused enough, you've learned enough to check whatever box it is. so first-timers are unpredictable, and they tend -- according to pat caddell who's done a lot of looking at this -- to fall in the category of donald trump because they feel part of something. andrea: kennedy, to david's point that that national be review piece didn't help trump, some are arguing that it helped him because going after him, but if you look at the numbers and the way iowa's structured, conventional wisdom -- which has been wrong this election -- would say someone like trump, a front runner, wouldn't win iowa. what happens if he does? kennedy: i think what happens is he has created a new paradigm. so if he wins iowa, i think, you know, the great variable as sandra touched on is the truth that lays somewhere between the head, the heart and the hand as someone pulls the lever. if people actually go out there and pull trigger for donald trump in a place like iowa, a

state where he's really -- this is not friendly territory to him, essentially -- if he can win there, i think, you know, new york, new york, baby, he can win anywhere. however, i wouldn't be surprised because iowa is such a strange place, we're talking about so few numbers. first-time voters, you know, another huge variable. i wouldn't be surprised if donald trump comes in third place. >> wow. andrea: and a ted cruz perhaps gets number one or two because, david, you look again and i'mt , i actually think it's for the birds, conventional wisdom would tell you that someone like ted cruz is more suited for iowa, but there's a report that donald trump is doing better with evangelicals -- >> remember, cruz did get under iowans' skin because he set himself apart from that. andrea: that's right. >> as you said, there's nothing conventional about this race, and conventional wisdom is the one that's taken the hit every single time. andrea: every time. >> so i think that you have to look beyond conventionalism. the key here is it's not about conservative versus liberal as

we've seen before, it's about the future of america. there's anything non-ideological about this race, if you will. donald trump is not a conservative, as national review pointed out, but he's not a liberal either. he's about something bigger than either liberalism or conservativism, he's about the future of america. he wants to get america on track. if the iowans think the same, then i think trump wins. harris: well, and look watt what the -- at what the governor's done in -- kennedy: without a true endorsement. his anti-endorsement, i think -- harris: but he threw enough shade ted cruz's way that he's got to figure out which way the wind is going to blow on all those shade trees. i'm still sincerely confused about how important iowa is at the end of day. sandra: is this going to be a better indicator of the nominee than in prior election years? andrea: i think if trump wins, sandra, i think if trump wins iowa, that paradigm that i mentioned earlier -- harris: that's what people said

about santorum. andrea: it hasn't mattered. people who won in iowa, to your point, sandra, they haven't advanced in the past. but this is very different. the only thing i wonder, though, are expectations now so high for trump because they haven't really managed them at the campaign, he's really tried to balance that. will that hurt him if he doesn't. i still don't think so with the numbers in new hampshire the way that they are. >> well, don't you think he's getting onboard though? at first he was reticent to get as involved in iowa as he's become. andrea: yes. >> i think right now he realizes that it's a horse race -- kennedy: well, he also sees how he can shift it, conception and the polls by having these major showings and stunts. so therefore, you know, at first he didn't want to participate in a place like iowa, and then he realized, oh, wait, this is actually important. the perception of winning there, you know, it truly will solidify his campaign in a way that even sarah palin couldn't dream. >> right. but when he goes all in with sarah pay eleven -- palin, watch

out, iowa. harris: you think? his comments about he could basically shoot somebody really haven't seemed to do anything other than get more people talking about him at this point. i'm curious, what about john kasich and chris christie who skipped over this and went straight to new hampshire this weekend? andrea: yep. a lot of them are knowing where they can win and where they can't win. christie and kasich, they believe they're more uniquely suited for a new hampshire, so they focus their resources. can they take it, can they knock trump out? sandra: that's why i wonder where trump's going to focus his resources. it worked for him the past couple of weeks, he squarely focused his attacks on ted cruz, his eligibility, his new york values comments, and it was effective. he only gained in the polls. i guess it shouldn't be a big shocker if we see his attacks ramped up against cruz. andrea: trump has a really good ground game in these states. i think a lot of people didn't

take him seriously at first -- harris: how can you tell? andrea: waive -- because of the money he's spent. >> and the way. the at love iowans are saying he knows what he's doing. he is a micromanager to a certain extent. everybody who goes in and tries to figure out how he's working his ground campaign, they can't really figure it out. andrea: there's a very in-depth piece in politico that details what kind of infrastructure he has on the ground. it's impressive, it's right up there with rubio and cruz who i would say -- >> do you think he's doing it? do you think he's micromanaging the whole thing, trump himself? andrea: i don't know about that, but he's got a good team with him that seem to be doing their job. kennedy: it's a small and loyal team, and i think he is such an intuitive politician that you can guarantee he is micromanaging as much as bill clinton did in 1992. andrea: seems to be working too. all right, and just four days to go before voters go to those

polls in iowa, we get to see the candidates take each other on directly once again. fox news channel and google hosting the republican candidates in the last debate before iowa. coverage kicks off this thursday at 7 p.m. eastern. you do not want to miss it. that's right here on fox news channel. all right. hillary's troubles with her e-mails, well, they just keep piling up just like the snow this weekend. what the fbi is reportedly looking into now as its investigation intensifies. plus, why the democratic front runner is still blaming republicans for her e-mail troubles and why hillary may be in trouble beyond iowa and new hampshire compared to her potential gop rivals. and right after the show catch more on the couch on the web. join us for outnumbered overtime. log on to foxnews.com/outnumbered, click that ot tab, fire off your questions and comments. who are you watching a week today in iowa? we want to hear from you. ♪ ♪

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that she did nothing wrong. >> no, i'm not concerned, because i know what the facts are. i never sent or received any material marked classified. i cannot control what the republicans leak and what they are contending. sandra: all right, kennedy, to you first. what do you make of all this? kennedy: the only way her argument holds water is if republicans literally sucked her brain out of her nose with a straw and replaced it with a new one, because she knew exactly what was going on here. and from some of these e-mails, we see that she directed her operatives, people in her closest circle, to cut and paste that classified information to send it on a completely secured system. it is a closed system with which you cannot transmit information to an open system which is what she had. she had an open system, and some of those e-mails on that open server showed stuff like chris

stevens' whereabouts and his security detail. and so, you know, you have to wonder as many intelligence experts have said that there's such a great chance that she was hacked by russia and china and god knows who else, what other kind of secured information was on those deleted e-mails? but this stuff is already so damning, and the avalanche is only getting worse. sandra: judge napolitano, you commented on that last week, pointing out there could have been the discussion of moles and secret government operations. so much could have been put at risk there, harris, and it's scary to think about that. but in the meantime, her strategy continues to be blame republicans. this is just them just staying on this story, won't let it go. harris: well, this is exactly the part that the fbi said they would be looking at though; what were the clearances like for those underlings, if you will, to make the decision about what was going to be put on the serve every and e-mailable and so on and so forth. all it takes is testimony from one of those people, and that's problematic, because if they

didn't have the right kind of clearance, and since when did a secretary or assistant have the kind of sap, the highest level of top secret? these people were handling that material? is that what we're led to believe? >> by the way, she's not only blaming the republicans, she's blaming the inspector general who was appointed by president obama -- harris: of collusion. >> but the interesting thing for me with this story is the fbi is talking. the fbi is talking to to reporters -- the ones that they trust anyway -- getting the information out. i think if they develop enough information and comey, the director of the fbi is very serious, he's a hard-nosed guy, if they develop enough information to warrant an indictment and if they don't get the indictment from the justice department, they're going to continue to talk. we're going to know everything that they found out, and chances are it's a lot. kennedy: do they have access to those deleted e-mails, that's what i want to know. no one seems to have the answer to that, no one is talking about it.

but i think those hold such a glimmering key. harris: can i ask andrea a question? you mentioned the politico ads or information that's out today. there's an article now, president obama sat exclusively down to tab this situation, and he told the reporter that hillary clinton is being treated unfairly when it comes to the e-mail investigation. what does that get her politically? why would he say that? andrea: because he's giving her cover. and i think we've seen this before when he sat down with "60 minutes" and said, quote, she made a mistake. he said she made a mistake. also the president of the united states said that national security was not put in jeopardy, a direct quote from the president. we now learn over the weekend from bob gates that potentially it was hacked by other countries. so we know that the president was wrong about that. also what this shows, this report, it shows that there was willful deceit. her directing her staff. so that means the president's word, sandra, and hillary's word isn't true, because they both said it was a mistake. also to your point, harris,

about those saps, she received special training on how to handle those e-mails, and most people don't understand it's not the marking of the e-mail, it's the content of the e-mail. some e-mails are born classified, and someone like hillary clinton would know that. so the question is, will the fbi, the vast right-wing fbi according to hillary clinton, recommend charges, and will the white house give her cover on that. kennedy: that's what's so critical here, because the information doesn't say "classified." because she directed jake sullivan to extract the information and e-mail it to her. that's what she said in a very terse exchange between those two. so of course it didn't say "classified," but as fbi agents and other intelligence and security agencies are going through it, they're looking at this saying, yeah, it doesn't say classified, but where is this information coming from? clearly, this information is so sensitive -- sandra: by the way, i should also mention in that same speech, we won't be able to get to the sound, but she was asked about the $200,000 that she received from wall street for

giving those speeches and why she did that and, andrea, her response, of course, was there was so much interest in her experience as secretary of state and osama bin laden, that that was why -- >> the way she got osama bin laden. right. harris: why? sandra: so she'll get paid $200,000 to talk about a raid which, by way, no one should be getting paid to give speeches on that raid, especially her. but nobody should. and it makes me wonder she gets all the credit for the bin laden raid but wants to take no responsibility for benghazi. kennedy: when she was secretary of state, it's up an interesting story that -- such an interesting story that people pay hundreds of thousands to hear it, the end. >> with no expectations of getting anything for it. kennedy: hillary clinton struggling in the polls in iowa and new hampshire, as you know, but now a less than rosy picture out of a super tuesday state, folks in 13 states are going to

go the polls on march 1st including minnesota. oh, gosh. [laughter] numbers show hillary clinton with a commanding lead over bernie sanders, but in match-ups with republicans, it's not looking so good. hillary trails marco rubio by nine points, ted cruz by two. she does beat donald trump but only by five points. so, david, what does this say to you? we've been focusing so much on iowa and new hampshire, but beyond that, you know, march 1st really not that far away. >> no, it's not, and a lot of people say that's where she'll pick up steam if she loses iowa and new hampshire because they're so liberal that bernie sanders has a better chance there. but, you know, it leads to bigger question which is what happens in the generalit's between donald and hillary. if it is between donald and hillary, some people in the hillary campaign say, great, bring it on. can you imagine a match-up in a debate, for example, between donald and hillary? talking about benghazi, remember how mitt dropped the ball on benghazi during his debate with

president obama? imagine if there was a question about benghazi in the debate between hillary and donald. do you think he'd drop the ball? no way, no how. sandra: she's been debating her own candidates in her own party, let alone -- >> right. well, bernie dropped the ball on the e-mails, of course. harris: that's actually turned out to be a problem for her which is one of the reasons she agreed to do this town hall the night before the caucuses. he's gaining in the polls. kennedy: he is. and you know, when he had the chance to debate in front of four people because there was a three-day weekend -- [laughter] he spanked her like a naughty -- >> by the way, you don't think that's because of him as opposed to people's dissatisfaction with her -- kennedy: i think that bifurcated trident, i think that poseidon's pesky trident is poking her on three fronts. >> okay. [laughter]

harris: what about marco rubio? he's being talked about a lot today because when you look at him one-on-one, he's got a great matchup -- really all the republicans do -- against the democrats ahead of the actual voting, but he does very well one-on-one. >> he does. hair harris i'm wondering, he is in double digits, and he's usually right in that third place in the polling -- kennedy: he does better in the generals. harris: behind trump and cruz, but what is it going to take him to get into that 20% range? andrea: the problem is if he's doing well in a general election match-up against hillary clinton, it's because they share a lot of the same positions. they share a lot of foreign policy positions, immigration positions, child tax credit positions, it's why some conservatives have problems with marco rubio. but he is a strong candidate likely in a general because he shares those positions. i think the danger, though, just going back to hillary and bernie, i think the danger is that she seems to have a lot of these super delegates wrapped up from what we hear, so what is the party going to do if bernie

starts win, yet she seems to have those super delegates, the ones that matter at that nominating convention -- >> the clinton war machine comes into gear. andrea: sandra, the left -- and, david, you too -- the left keeps fighting over who's more in bed with wall street. what's the money going? sandra: what she has been saying behind closed doors, we know she gets immense support from wall street. andrea: yeah. sandra: we hear a lot of the heads of major corporations say they support hillary clinton, so what has she promised behind closed doors, and how far to the center will she move if she's actually nominated? >> wall street will do anything to keep bernie out. kennedy: did you ever see "the producers"? harris: oh, yeah. kennedy: she has promised 4,000 people cabinet positions. harris: one name we didn't talk about, michael bloomberg. kennedy: well, isis is out with a chilling new video featuring the final messages of the paris attackers, the new threat they make and what to do about it. also, millions of americans

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their street. the government that they rely on to come and try and clear out messes like this one after a big storm hasn't even attempted to get down this road yet, and it's been almost two full days since the snow, the heavy snow stopped. it's not just inconvenient, it is potentially very dangerous because imagine if somebody on this road has an emergency, calls 931, what are they going -- 911, what are they going to do? i asked the arlington police department what the plan is, they said option one, just have the officers park on the closest plowed road and then walk. option two, call for a priority plow, but that's going to be tough at this point because it's hard to each get to the bottom of the road. or option three, call the national guard who is in town, and they have some big equipment. the county says this is now phase three, snow removal. phase one was pretreatment, phase two, main roads, phase three, neighborhoods. and the state says neighborhoods are the most complicated because

there's not always a good place to put the snow that falls. crews are dealing with big piles on the main roads, they're picking it up, putting it in the back of big trucks, and diesels where is the old rfk stadium, but there's so much snow now in the parking lot that they are very concerned about potential pollution after the snow with all the junk that was on the d.c. city streets starts to melt and then run off into the river. snow -- rather, schools in the area are already closed for tomorrow, a rare early call, and that is a real sign of how long they think it's going to take to get to areas like this. harris. harris: wow. and that's without massive upon massive power outages which they had predicted and, fortunately, didn't happen across many areas. wow. so it's nice, at least the government broke it into three parts. i'd say phase four is diy, do it yourself. peter, thank you. that's unreal. well, isis is releasing a

new propaganda video featuring the final messages of the paris attackers with a chilling threat to great britain. in the slickly-produced footage, the terrorists are seen beheading and shooting captives while praising the paris attacks that left 130 people dead and hundreds more wounded. the video includes record arings of washings of those -- warnings of those who took part in the massacre in paris last november. all nine savages in the video died in those attacks or their aftermath. the latest threat comes after the u.k. approved airstrikes in syria as part of the ongoing conflict there. david, i want to come to you first on this. there had been early questions about whether or not this was something they call in the military command and control, if the islamic state savages would have commanded those nine to do this. this certainly starts to tie up, if you will, loopholes that might exist between them and them. >> it does, indeed, look like there's command and control here. it also makes you wonder, it's been a little too quiet. i know there was something in cameroon, but in europe and the

united states and so forth, i don't know about you, but i'm feeling disquieted by how quiet it's been for the past couple of weeks if not months since our last attack. i'm just wondering if this is presaging something they have in mind. of course, we'll find out. hopefully, we'll get some kind of warning about a coming attack. but, you know, you used the word "savage." i remember that awful thing that bill maher said after 9/11, that these guys, at least they weren't cowards because they were brave to blow themselves up. let's once and for all that a suicide/homicide killer, one of these savages, is not brave. it's not a brave thing to commit suicide if in doing so you're committing homicide. it's an act of absolute cowardice. first of all, they think they're going to get their virgins in heaven, and everything's going to be just fine with them. it is absolute savagery. there is no other word for what is going on. and one hopes, one prays that we sometime will reach the level worldwide where we will absolutely do everything in our

power to squash these guys like apts, because we haven't done -- like abilities, because we haven't done that yet. there hasn't been a unifying figure to do that, and we need one. harris: doesn't it need to come from the muslim community? when you look at this video and the translations, they're invoking allah, they're invoking, you know, principles and bastardizing principles of the faith. kennedy: yeah. and this administration is more concerned instead of having an honest discussion and instead of fostering that discussion from a basis of knowledge that the president has which is incredibly unique and could be very helpful right now, and, you know, truly making that happen so you have moderate muslims leading the discussion instead of, you know, the administration saying whatever you do, you know, let's be extra sensitive about this. and i think, you know, obviously one of the reasons donald trump is resulting in an electoral conflagration is because a lot of people don't want to be sensitive. and i don't think you have to be

islam phobic, i don't think that's necessary. i think people are smart enough to separate. still, i have faith people can have that discussion, but it's not being had. and i think moderate muslims have such an important place right now, and, you know, you don't see it, and they're losing incredible opportunities. harris: well, that language is certainly littered throughout the translation portions of this tape, you know? when you look at what happened in cameroon, boko haram who's pledged allegiance to isis and their march across that part of the world as well, it's like an eight-headed animal now. i mean, to get with your arms around it, and you talk about missed opportunities, you can't help but go back to that. >> well, it is a vacuum. there is a vacuum in leadership that would somehow unite the world against savagery. sandra: but, harris, to your point, this is a highly-produced video. it's gruesome, and if anything should empower you to go out and make a solid decision on who's going to be the future leader of this country, it's looking at this. and as general keane continues to point out, we have an

administration who still hesitates or fails to identify the enemy. how can we even face the enemy if we are not identifying who the enemy is? andrea: not even that, you have the president two weeks ago with matt lauer saying there are, quote, no existential threats against the united states of america and a couple years before that we can absorb another 9/11. i'm disappointed more muslims aren't speaking out, but the question is, why? they don't seem to speak out and condemn. and whether they're scared or not, even be they did, that's assuming these jihadis would listen. and i don't think they will. that political correctness in england and france, the demographics are not in their favor. there's a lot of large muslim populations that are ripe for radicalization, and the more they kowtow to them, the more dangerous and in jeopardy i think they are. harris: well, they are specifically talking about the british prime minister and what they would do, so on and so forth. it is very frightening to see what they've put out. we'll cover this as it makes more news.

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♪ ♪ andrea: well, beware the queen bee. junior women hoping to move ahead in the workplace may find their path blocked if their boss is a woman. that's according to a new study. it found the so-called queen bee syndrome results in women leaders blocking the progress of their junior female colleagues. in a male-dominated organization, queen bees also advanced their own careers by adjusting to a masculine culture. the professor who led the research says that it's all a response to the discrimination women leaders experience in the very first place. all right, harris, you're nodding. do you think this exists, the queen bee syndrome? harris: so there's this web site called the fairy godboss who did research -- [laughter] i know, isn't that a great --

yeah, i thought it was kind of interesting. what it does is it looked at the quality of life for women on the job, and what it found is when there's that equality for everybody in the workplace, we tend to treat each other better. because we're not reacting to that male culture, that boss culture that you just described. but when it's unfair to women in general, then we're even worse. we take that, and then we kind of run with it. now, i'm paraphrasing the research, but that's the gist of it. so that queen bee syndrome, i think it may come out of, you know, survival of the fittest in the office and trying to to morph into whatever it takes to get to the top and that, unfortunately in some minds, might think stepping on others to get there. andrea: kennedy, there's more women in the workplace, more in positions of power. there's a study in "the wall street journal" a couple years ago talking about the tyranny of the queen bee. there's a real thing that seems to exist. kennedy: well, only 14% of fortune 500 ceos are female.

if you have a woman who's been in the workplace for a couple decades and she has been discriminated against and she finally ascends to the ultimate throne, she wasn't about the to sherpa everyone else up with her. and i think, you know, women like that have figured out the masculine culture, and they see another junior executive, that is the ultimate threat. it's not the guys because they've figured out how to exist in a boys' club. but because they put so much emphasis on that, it's more difficult for them to the figure out how to exist in a truly equal environment. andrea: what about that, david? guys are used to playing on teams, they've been in the military together, they seem to have that team thing down pat more than women do. >> well, yes, but the ceo, in a way a ceo is not really a team player, because he's thinking about all about himself or herself. and there is a change in the corporate culture a little bit. sandy can talk to this. but the fact is a lot of -- look at what zuckerberg did, the facebook guy. he took a month off.

>> two. >> two months off in the middle of a very busy season, at a time when the stock market was going down if not crashing in order to take care of his kid. you couldn't do that ten years ago. but there's something different in the boardroom now, something different among ceos that may eventually, i think, make it easier for a woman who wants to have a family, wants to play a role in her family. because, frankly, if you're a ceo in the old days, you couldn't have a family life, period. you just couldn't. andrea: sandra, are we our own worst enemies? sandra: no, i don't think so. i think women who get to these higher-up positions tend to be strong, confident women who are not there to demean those that are coming up behind them. ceo mary barra at general motors, a good example of that. she's one of those fortune 500 ceos. what i wonder is where the give and take is going to be, what this is going to cost women. this friedman study that was done using wharton business school graduates in 2012 showed

that 42% of the graduating class there said they intended to have children. back in 1992, 80% of those women said they intended to have children. so are women seeing that they have to give up having families in order to thrive in the business world? >> what do you think? kennedy: i think they're making that compromise, i really do. not to speak for you, but i think at that age, yeah, when you're graduating business school, you're conceivably in your late 20s, you probably had some business experience before college, and you're thinkiing yes, if i have to forgo that, and medical technology has allowed people to put off the reproductive process until years later. if you're in your mid 40s and you decide you want to have a kid, you can pull the trigger in. harris: i think it's what it really looks like -- kennedy: not every woman is set up to have it all. andrea: i think this queen bee

sip dream does -- syndrome does exist. i've had some amazing mentors, but i've also seen it firsthand, women who were really insecure and nasty -- harris: human beings who are. andrea: yeah. they just try and take you out and turn people against you, and they hurt other women. everyone knows who they are though. especially the people that they target. all right. are miniskirts and low-cut blouses a threat to the democratic process? that appears to be the concern in one state. the lawmaker defending his dress code for women after bipartisan rid qume from female legislators -- ridicule from female legislators. so is it sexist? we'll debate it. ♪ ♪

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment, but first let's get to jon scott with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon: hey, sandra. we're awaiting a bernie sanders campaign event in iowa. he's giving hillary clinton a run for her money ahead of tonight's democratic debate. we are monitoring it for news. and disturbing new videotape from isis, appearing to show nine of the terrorists from paris brag about what they would do in paris, threatening the

u.k. and murdering people on camera. chuck nash joins us to discuss the latest outrage. also, after a terrific rally on friday, stocks sinking today again along with the price of oil to. some analysts saying the long bull market is over. we're keeping an eye on your money. we'll have it for you, "happening now." sandra. sandra: all right, jon, thank you. >> a kansas lawmaker drawing bipartisan backlash after imposed a dress code that prohibit women testifying before his panel from wearing low-cut blouses and miniskirts. state senator mitch holmes who chairs the senate ethics committee introduced the code as part of his 11-point code of conduct. female lawmakers are blasting the rules. >> there was no suggesting that men needed any help deciding what to put on in the morn, it was targeted only at women. >> while holmes maintains the code of conduct applies to everybody, of course, the men

say they don't want to wear miniskirts, he says he may now add language on what's appropriate for men. we've got to wear coats and ties unless we're eric bolling on your show. [laughter] sandra: i tend to think these things work themselves out, you don't need to set a dress code particularly in this instance. you're going to get eyeballs if you're dressing in a way that makes other people uncomfortable. i don't think this man needed to set a dress code. that's just my take on it. >> why did he do it? harris: i don't know. but a distraction, that's an interesting word. he might have done himself a favor just saying he wanted people to be more dressed up, treat it more like, you know, a formal occasion, if you will. but to label it -- >> i'm going to do something very dangerous and come to his defense a little bit. harris: well, that'll be fun. sandra: oh, boy. >> he was talking about lobbyists in particular. he was suggesting perhaps -- [laughter] that the lobbyist women were trying to distract the lawmakers.

kennedy: so distracting. sure, yeah, all that eye candy. he actually, i think when he says something like that, he makes men look bad. he makes the men around him look so so unprofessional and, you know, women are just dangling fishing lures, and men are gullible catfish, and they're -- >> and the problem with that is? men are gullible catfish. kennedy: to see a woman dressed in a particular item of clothing, they gawk and they're unable to focus. andrea: i want to see some of the photos of these outfits that these women are rocking out there. what do you think, david? i think maybe these outfits -- >> wait a minute, i agreed to do this segment, because jason said -- i can't win many this one. andrea: are men easily distracted by anything, no matter how short or long the skirt is? >> yes. yes. [laughter] we're idiots. harris: why didn't he just tell the men your assignment is to grow up? >> the idea of having a dress code is stupid. i think this guy's dumb to suggest it, there's no way he can win but, yes, men are idiots

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