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and, only 50 calories a serving... good morning, indeed. v8. veggies for all. >> back in an hour. out numbered starts right now. sandra: fox news alert. two weeks to go. both hillary clinton and donald trump trump stumping in the battleground of state of florida. as new national poll showing a dead heat. this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner. host of kennedy, on fox biggs, kennedy. co-host of after the bell melissa francis. and today's hash hark, we have a fox business trifecta today. "lou dobbs tonight." lou dobbs himself is here and he is outnumbered. harris: i'm "outnumbered."
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you all are from fox business. >> took the pressure off. harris: i'm giving it right back to you, my friend. >> no. harris: that outnumberedness. good to have you. sandra: how are you feeling in the final stretch? >> i love it. two weeks to bo in this thing, seems like we've been sort of dreading the pace of this thing for so long. now suddenly i'm dreading prospect it might be over somewhat. harris: you are? >> i'm ready. sandra: we're ready for you. let's get started. donald trump and hillary clinton looking to build support in florida again today, a day after early in-person voting began in the sunshine state. this is independent daily tracking survey, billed as the nation's most accurate showed candidates locked in virtual tie, even as other polls show hillary leading race. investors daily poll show trump and clinton neck and next with hillary leading 42 to 41% in a
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four-way race. new cnn poll shows democrat leading five points nationally, 49-44. as donald trump continues to denounce most of the polls as phony. while declaring he is actually winning. >> the system is corrupt, folks. i've been saying it's rigged. i've been saying it for a long time. the system is rigged. wikileaks also shows how john podesta rigged the polls by oversampling democrats, a voter suppression technique. that is happening to me all the time. it is called voter suppression. because people will say, oh, guy trump is, folks we're winning. we're winning. we're winning. [cheering] sandra: he really keeps hammering on this point, lou, the polls are wrong and he is actually winning. >> it is not an accident he is doing that because this resonates with his base. it resonates with independents, because everyone knows these
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polls are not making a lot of sense. you have some outlyers at 12-point differentials, others with him in the lead, national tracking poll, specifically ibd and "l.a. times"/usc poll. sandra: his critics are quick to point out when this race started, especially in the primary season he was quick to point out the polls shows when he is winning. >> quick is interesting word to use. remember it took a long time for him to plow through the national liberal media attacking him as not being serious, not being able to get even to the primaries. next thing you know it was february 1st and he had a little setback in iowa and next thing you know he starts the trump train as they call it starts rolling. so there has been i know what you mean by quick, this thing was a process he had to overcome national media bias every step of the way and has done so. sandra: tough to determine for the average voter look at these polls and determine which ones
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do you pay attention to and which ones are telling us what is going on? harris: i'm wondering if they're paying that much attention anymore. remember when we were on the ground at conventions, you would talk to people, particularly obviously the rnc in cleland about this, people were resisting notion taking them. they will not take part. they will keep it close to the vest. i often wondered all along, how accurate they have been. people don't want to be forth right or avoid the process all together. >> what is interesting with the ibd poll specifically we talk about a lot whether polls are skewed based how many landlines are used, what is the methodology, with ibd they use more cell phones than landlines, 65-35%. you also have to remember, in all of these polls, trump is still up with independents. and you also have to note that independents make up more of the electorate than democrats or republicans. 34% independents, 33% democrats.
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29% republicans. melissa: yeah. it is interesting. you look at all polls together he is lagging obviously but at same time he comes out says these are rigged. everybody sort of laughs at him, you go back, we'll get to the story later in the show, so i don't want undercut it -- >> promote it. melissa: that violence were incited by people on the hillary clinton team, peep lashed out. point the finger like that. you have no evidence. lo and behold we come down the line so we're seeing evidence. he says these things people mark as crazy later evidence trickles out. >> people are not doing that the national liberal media is doing that. melissa: okay. >> that is important distinction. they're not peeking for the people. donald trump and hillary clinton presumably are speaking for people. sandra: is comparison to that "brexit," is that a fair comparison to what donald trump is pretty much setting up we may
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see? >> i think it's a fair comparison if you're pulling for donald trump and you want that last minute flip in the numbers. beyond that you're talking about a nation, much smaller nation with a very different issue. this is one, this is the most hotly-contested presidential campaign, and i know some people say 19, 2000 was pretty contested and, 1980, but this is the most vicious, dirty, i mean, this is a brawl. harris: what it is right now is tight in a lot of those polls. i'm curious to know the difference in strategy for kellyanne conway and campaign manager says yes, we are behind in the polls and for donald trump who for a second in a tweet said yes and went back on the stump, no, we're winning, winning, winning? >> kellyanne and donald trump both understand very clearly you have to emulate the democrats in two respects is. one you can't have anymore of
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this interniece seen warfare going you don't concede a damn thing. democrats never do and most often prevail, and most recently in last two cycles prevail, they never allow for a fracture in the party. harris: interesting. well, talk to bernie sanders about that. we'll move on. as donald trump stomachs hard ahead of election day, he insists there is a path to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the white house. despite what some critics and analysts are saying. here he is a short time ago talking about the states he needs to lock down. >> i think i'm winning in florida, which i have to win. i think i'm winning in north carolina from what i hear. i'm polling very well in ohio. i will win ohio. we're doing phenomenally well in iowa. we're winning or tied. it will be very, very close. harris: meanwhile vice-presidential nominee mike
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pence has a message for wary republicans. >> it's time for republicans to come home. we've got support from independents. we've got support from many democrats but as you have said many times, sean, it is time for republicans to come home and come together. elect donald trump. harris: so, piggybacking off what lou just said, idea emulate if you will the democrats. that is what their message is right now, you've got to come home. melissa: absolutely. the right to get out there give that message is little late.y ce on message whole campaign. better late than never. i'm looking at early returns in florida. we don't know how people voted. we know how people returned by mail. 31,000 returned more ballots than democrats have. kind ever speaks to whole thing people not saying who they are voting for. harris: intensity perhaps, maybe gives us a little clue.
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>> tim kaine had 30 people show up for event in west palm beach. harris: weather was fabulous. i heard weather was good for surfing i don't know. >> it might have been that. then you had 15,000 show up in tampa where the surfing apparently wasn't so good for donald trump. harris: there you go. i want to talk about a little place, maine second congressional district. one electoral vote in the rural northern part of the state and trump and clinton are going after it. that was leaning gop. now it is a tossup. how does that matter? sandra: explain the strategy. democrats seem to be downplaying how will they're compared to the trump campaign. why are you seeing donald trump not saying we have a lot of ground to make up. we're not where we want to be. we heard that from kellyanne conway. wouldn't that help voters get out, if they knew the race is tight but we're not where we need to be? >> i think what you're say something exactly correct. but, there is so much anger,
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there is so much cold anger, as some wags have expressed it within the republican base, they don't have to say much. they're going to be out there. people were in a line, i mentioned in tampa, for 12 hours, and you're seeing this across the country. this isn't differentiated by anything other than the bluest of blue states. you're seeing it everywhere else. >> that is going to make election night so interesting because so much conventional wisdom has been so wrong and so far off base. >> throughout the campaign. >> throughout the whole thing and people who were prognosticating and predicting, they were dead wrong in the primary. and you know, we're still seeing a very tight race. now granted donald trump isn't up in any of these polls but two, rasmussen and "l.a. times." >> national polls. >> yeah. harris: kennedy, let me ask you this though, we can put up the electoral scoreboard as we see
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it here in fox. excuse me. this is the trump campaign prediction map, forgive me there. all right we want -- >> results just in. harris: you see texas is obviously not in play on their map but what i was going to say, it is when you look trajectory process. our map shows texas and other places are not in play. what is seeing different on the ground? he has been on the ground, lou, said he is getting, and talking to people? kennedy: he is. what makes it interesting states traditionally democrat or republican are now either pink or lightest of blue. that means election night they could fall either way because texas and georgia now very much in play where they weren't before. and you know, what does that mean exactly? which don't know. frankly if i want a state that had early voting i wouldn't be voting two weeks out because i would, i still want to see what is going to happen if the clinton campaign really has more surprises and more, giuliani is promising from the trump
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campaign they have more surprises. i want to see how everything coalesces falls into place. harris: u.s. supreme court picks are what people tell me time and time again on both sides of political aisle. irrespective what, and low numbers about people who haven't made up their mind. >> high numbers or lower numbers? >> lower numbers we've seen recently. melissa: i'm going as undecided voter on halloween, i'm not sure they really exist on that night. there is so much out there. you have to know who you're voting for at this point, no? harris: we'll come back to all of that. don't look sad, lou. >> disappointed. that's all. harris: don't be. we're going to talk more, years after president obama promised americans health care costs would go down, oh, you will chew on that for us, lou, the white house is announcing obama care premiums will soon sky
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rocket by double digits? a lot of people picking their enrollment. outrage building after thousands of our nation's heroes are ordered to repay enlistment bonuses. this is one of the most clicked-on things we talked about yesterday. decade after war government wanted money back. how on earth did this happen in the first place? chat with us on line and watch "outnumbered overtime," o-t, baby. you can watch it on our page, fox news outnumbered click on overtime lab. we're on the twitter machine right now. so tweet tweet, birdie, during the commercial. see you. getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more... ...add one a day men's 50+. complete with key nutrients we may need. plus it helps support healthy blood pressure with vitamin d and magnesium.
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♪ >> obamacare has to be repealed and replaced and it has to be replaced with something much less expensive for the people, otherwise this country is in even bigger trouble than anybody thought. melissa: donald trump blasting obamacare earlier today as many americans are about to hit with higher health care costs yet again! that is not what they promise, right? the white house now admitting that the president obama's signature health care law will see double-digit premium hikes next year again.
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and many americans will have only one insurer to choose from, one choice, that is not a choice, after several national carriers scaled back their rolls. but administration says that the subsidies are rising as well and will insulate most customers from sticker shock. this news comes one week before open enrollment and two weeks before election day. lou dobbs, this drives me nuts. anyone who knew math knew this whole thing was lie. i watched video again this morning where the president said your premiums, your family premiums will drop by $2500 a year, after year. by that logic they would eventually be free, setting that aside for the moment, they have done nothing but gone up. it is so frustrating. >> it is frustrating and horrible fate for millions of americans who were relying on this and who thought this was going to be the solution that their president promised. made five promises he broke and he lied and continued to lie.
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so did the insurance companies who were being subsidized. this turned out to be a trillion dollar giveaway to them. now they don't want to play. i understand. it is a disaster, economically, financially, but, the congress of the united states, led by the democrats at that time, who put this into law, the president should be held accountable. everyone of them were lying so. abouts and they knew it at the sometime. mit's boy genius john gruber, he was avatar for all of this. and special place in hell is deserved for him. harris: thank goodness for his transparency is nice way to put it. >> a little late. that was the problem. harris: give us idea certain things happened. >> we knew from the beginning. we didn't need john gruber. kennedy: free fall in slow motion. president in 2013 said premiums have gone down because of competition. he tried to say because of greater choice.
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now the insurance market is bert and better for most americans but the interesting thing is, democrats don't care if this fails because what it does, pushes everyone toward a single-payer system which is what they ultimately want. >> that's correct. kennedy: fix now is more people on medicaid. some sort of a tax credit but that doesn't fix obamacare. that is admission of failure. harris: doctors with medicaid folding in medicaid for aging population know they are not willing to take it. you have a whole lot of people as lou said who will get stuck. what is president obama saying? he is talking about the single-payer right now on the stump, which is odd place to be talking about it since it is already in place as obamacare. is he also willing to repeal and replace it with something else. melissa: they knew, sandra, exactly where all this was going. we were heading into the direction where insurance companies were dropping out. we saw it from the very beginning. there was a lot that pointed to this being as bad as it is today of the we all knew that. >> mathematics was not complicated.
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sandra: so i love speaker paul ryan referencing the president comparing this to the samsung galaxy note 7. obamacare to the phone that is blowing up. he said that is right. that is a good comparison. this disasterous law is blowing up. at least you can return the phone. >> is this same paul ryan doing the president's bidding on federal spending and omnibus bill? oh, i'm sorry. kennedy: such a policy wonk. so good at winnowing down the budget. >> bright boy. melissa: that single-payer system we're going for, if you like health coverage at va that's where we're headed. harris: can you keep your doctor? melissa: no. hillary clinton facing serious allegations over a duck. i wish i were kidding. why an undercover video could land the democratic nominee in real hot water with that duck. plus the growing universal outrage over veterans being told to pay back their enlistment bonuses, a decade after going to
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and help make the gift of tomorrow possible. ♪ kennedy: new controversy for hillary clinton after another under cover video released from the conservative group project veritas allegedly shows key democratic party operative robert creamer talking about hillary clinton personal involvement in sending donald duck mascot to trump rallies to harass the billionaire businessman about his tax returns. if this is true, it forbids cooperation with candidates and outside groups. watch. on, to, future president of the united states, with ducks on the ground. i have people with ducks on the ground. >> wow.
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>> he has gone to somebody who is smarter people and she explained the idea, hillary and hillary loved it. kennedy: oh, mercy, you have to love technology. how deep is her yo further on this. >> not as deep as disney attorneys get ahold on this. i know they don't pay attention to any laws with the clinton cartel, but at some point disney tends to lose its sense of humor. probably break into the studios and have less legal action then if you appropriated one of other ip images. this is, you know, certainly that, in 70 years standing. harris: especially pull in one of images on a possible crime. if she, if there was some sort of, not just crossover but collusion between the candidate and outside groups. you have donald duck in the middle of it, that is legally
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messy. kennedy: creamer said it was her idea. give ducks on the ground. gave her ducks on the ground. it doesn't stick to her. i think this the same thing. people -- harris: we don't know -- melissa: duck muck won't get stuck to her? i can't believe we're having conversation about a red-haired duck. i can't believe they're saying, what would be incentive of this guy on tape to lie, hillary thinks this is great. but don't tell anybody. harris: he says don't tell anybody. melissa: but anyone would think this is great idea. donald trump said before, she is sending people to incite violence. harris: why didn't anybody believe him? melissa: it sounds crazy. who would do that! but turns out she would. sandra: we're asking a question did she break any laws here but does that matter? >> i don't think it matters that's what i'm saying. you're talking about a bunch of lowlifes in that video who are going out disrupting donald trump rallies. harris: with a duck. >> leading to violence against police officers as well, as well
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rally supporters. that seems a little undone ailed duckish. melissa: i don't think donald would do that. harris: if disney, i believe they're arm of another network, alphabet soup network as i like to call them, what happens if they don't protest? >> they could -- sandra: donna brazile put an end to it once they intervened, as if she didn't know beforehand. kennedy: turns out hillary has enough supporters at abc? harris: that's what i'm asking. if they don't stand up, indicative again of maybe a lean in one portion of the media out there? kennedy: yes. >> we don't need leans. we have half gainers and swan dives going into the tank. kennedy: they're cozy in bed with her they could open a mattress store. harris: that is compliment on some level. speaking of outrage, it is
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growing now that we know thousands of california soldiers are being forced to repay enlistment bonuses this is huge topic yesterday. there is more on it now. they went to war for our country a decade ago. given bonuses to do so. now the pentagon is reportedly acknowledging the problem probably extends beyond california. they say there is a review process that could relief those affected. hope so, some are saying they will go in debt to have to pay the money back. lawmakers are calling on congress to come up with a legislative fix and halt the debt recovery. both presidential candidates are reacting. hillary clinton says in a statement, quote, i'm appalled national guard officials are attempting to recoup money from soldiers who accepted bonus as decade ago. it is unacceptable to subject them and their families to undue financial burdens thanks to mismanagement from the california national guard and rigid bureaucracy on part of the pentagon. donald trump weighed in with this. >> the corrupt sim can also
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force brave national guardsmen from california, to return the bonuses they were promise, something that would never happen under a trump administration. this can only happen with this an incompetent people we have running. people with no common sense. they're inept, but they have no common sense. harris: i will quickly start with the politics. i want to go to melissa on the human element with all of this. this fits in very neatly in narrative that donald trump started 18 months ago. >> incompetency on the part of the government, corruption on part of the government? harris: corruption, that word. >> this is an administration, pick a subject, we've talked about to date. in every instance the obama administration is incompetent, it is corrupt and the extension of hillary clinton just adds to the degree, order of magnitude of the corruption. she isn't talking about a single if issue. harris: the human side of this.
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melissa: it's heartbreaking. i was talking to army master sgt. susan hailey on my show yesterday. she was in tears. spent years and years away from her family in kosovo. she had a husband who was in afghanistan. a son went to iraq and lost part of his leg. her family has made greatest sacrifices for our country. she was given a bonus to go back. years later after she came back, spend all the time away from family, guess what, you were overpaid. they spend a quart he have their income now to the government. a quarter their income. sandra: a contract they entered and put their lives on the line for. in addition to that personal story, there are hundreds of more stories people taking out second mortgages to pay back this bonus they were promise and they took many, many years ago. harris: why can't the government take care of it? they have so much of our money, we have so much money for --
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kennedy: barbara boxer, dianne feinstein, contact hillary clinton let her know this was going on. harris: president obama could fix it if he wanted to with that pen he likes to use. kennedy: could issue executive order. harris: call it the execu-pen. >> he doesn't give a damn, okay? he doesn't care! harris: these are our tax dollars. >> it is our word. it is our word, more personally. it is our contract with the men and women who served in nation in uniform. end of story. tell these damn fools to back off! the general staff that did this, there is reason we've been in fight against radical islam for 15 years. it is because of generals that think like this. sandra: i have a hard time every time i read update on this story, how is it defensible? kennedy: that was incentive. this is the height of war in 2006 and 2007. they didn't have enough combat troops. harris: they needed people. >> they went to people patriotic
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and need and preying upon them with these incentives. they made some sort of a clerical mistake? where did that happen? where was the breakdown in that chain? harris: why did they wait so long? it is not mistake, it is cover-up. i know that is the not original quote, it is really crime, when you make a mistake so grave, grave for these people, it is a crime. melissa: it is devastating. going back to this woman's story yesterday, her family made so many sacrifices years we spent away from each other. i wanted to serve my country. i wanted to serve my priority. when i came back, thank you for all the time you spent away, thank you for your sacrifice, thank you for what you've done, no, give us our money back. we're attacking your credit and attacking your wages. harris: can you imagine, remember the g.i. bill? >> sure. harris: can you imagine if the government started clawing back on what it has done for the military for decades? what a mess! >> different time, different country in point of fact. certainly different leaders. this president could have taken
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care of this in less time we've spent talking about it here today. harris: that's true. only way it would have taken longer if he couldn't find the pen to sign with. we'll move on. new leaked emails appearing to show one of hillary clinton's top advisors concerned about what she said behind closed doors to goldman sachs in big money speeches. we'll discuss that. stay close. your car got rear-ended and you needed a tow. did your 22-page insurance policy say, "great news. you're covered?" no. it said, "blah blah blah blah..." the liberty mutual app with coverage compass™ makes it easy to know what you're covered for and what you're not. liberty mutual insurance.
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♪ sandra: leaked. mails from hillary clinton long-time advisors appear to show concern over clinton's paid speeches to goldman sachs. clinton avoided placing blame for the 2015 recession on wall street. in a email to insiders mandy grunwald allegedly admits quote, it is pretty bad. critical what extent led to the
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crash but more memorable stuff is totally a accommodationist. that she made tepid remarks about obamacare and naive comments about russian president vladmir putin. i don't know, do i have to ask, does this go anywhere before we discuss it? is it worth discussing? >> i think so from the standpoint that she is saying all sorts of nonsense behind closeted wall street doors and wants that kept secret. if it weren't for wikileaks we wouldn't know the nonsense. sandra: seems to be baked in. we don't see dramatic change in polling. harris: we need to know accommodationist. what did she promise them? we need to know exactly what it was. that is important. if we find it out, now that we're finding it, that part is important outside of politics. sandra: there are things that people say, because it is political and you have to, but i understand what really went on here.
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you know, and she basically showed that same theme we see all the time. she says one thing out there doing a speech some people, we hate wall street, make them pay their fair share, they're robbers, they need to go to jail, i will be tough in wall street and gets paid $250,000 for a speech on wall street. how can you possibly say that? kennedy: big difference between the public stance and private one. perhaps private one is more soft every and more nuanced. what she is saying is in diametric opposition to herself. how can she stand before a group of investment bankers around talk about how dodd strange is problematic and how essentially wall street has to regulate itself. withbut then she is out there oe stomach in new hampshire with elizabeth warren, talking about the ultraleft progressism. it flies in the face -- harris: can't figure it out.
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>> as i read her speeches and listened to lloyd blankfein, looking at it on paper, it is like the dialogue you would have expected between bonnie & clyde after a big heist. it is really repulsive to even think, she is saying to wall street, you know, we can't regulate unless you regulate yourselves. if that isn't what she's offering, i don't know how else to look at it. harris: what is the truth? i mean is it public or public? melissa: yeah. harris: love to be in the car ride in to the stage yesterday in new hampshire with senator elizabeth warren, did she hold her feet to the fire. i will get on dais to support you, what is the truth? this is obviously something warren would care about? >> she would be very flattered by your question. harris: you don't think it got that deep? melissa: that's what i'm saying. i'm telling you the truth. i was lying to them. harris: or other way around. we don't know. melissa: what does she believe, maybe she doesn't believe
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anything. kennedy: take them in totality why doesn't it make more of a difference. terry mcauliffe thing, almost $500,000 payment he made to the fbi deputy director's wife in losing state senate campaign. donald duck, she solicited donald duck. now we're talking about the hypocrisy, blatant hypocrisies in goldman sachs speeches. harris: why doesn't it matter? no one is selling it. it does matter. >> it is corruption on any level! sandra: seems to fall back to that in the words of lou dobbs. remember when donald trump called hillary clinton a nasty woman at the last debate? elizabeth warren sure does. she is calling on nasty woman to voight on november 8th. whether a good rallying cry for dems or pandering to female voters. ♪ (war drums beating)
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we'll serve it up. go to jenna lee. what is coming up second hour of "happening now." hi, jenna. >> donald trump later in sanford, florida. met with cuban-american leaders. he is spending three days in florida as part of a major push to take the battleground state. we have new polling from another key state, arizona, at top of the hour. republican candidate mike pence holding a rally in ohio. he repeatedly reminding republican voters time to come home. more on that in a moment. vice president joe biden, with a event in pittsburgh. slamming donald trump, saying that he is has lock of knowledge to be potus. there is that. hillary, also an event in coconut creek, florida. run down of all events we're watching. we'll have much more at top of the hour. harris: see you then, thank you. kennedy: massachusetts senator elizabeth warren joining hillary clinton on campaign trail of tears and revving up a crowd in
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new hampshire by ripping into donald trump and turning his nasty woman comments from the last debate into a feminist rallying cry! watch this. >> women have had it with guys like you. and nasty woman have really had it with guys like you. [cheering] nasty woman are tough. nasty women are smart. nasty women vote. and on november 8th, we nasty women are going to march our nasty feet to cast our nasty votes, to get you out of our lives forever! [cheering] kennedy: slow your roll. she is really embracing that nasty title, isn't she? melissa: why i only think of janet jackson during the speech. kennedy: you think of nasty boys. melissa: i don't know. this is the place we've gone to.
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this is where we are in the campaign. i wish he hadn't said it. it adds more fuel to her fire. it is, not exactly like a he beyonce song. >> hearing that anger, that hate? i'm little hurt, a little intimidated, a little fearful. melissa: lou. >> who does she think nasty women represent a threat to? it is not the men. it is to other women. i mean it is most bizarre thing -- these people are tripping, if i may use a '60s word. sandra: one thing very clear by her words on that stage, she truly believes she is speaking on behalf of all women. >> good lord. sandra: you really get that since she is speaking on behalf of all of us. then hillary clinton while she didn't actually use the phrase nasty woman up on the stage, she enjoyed it a bit. she gets under his thin skin like nobody else. that is all they're trying to
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do. will it work? hillary clinton said bait for him to get back on twit. kennedy: elizabeth warren followers, they love that she is going after him with full force. that is definitely right. do you really want to brand yourself a nasty woman? way to be positive. harris: i am confused how elizabeth warren got to be the one who could decide meaning that donald trump attached to that word during the debate. he was talking about -- they both were talking about all sorts of topics during that debate. it was culmination -- he calls her "crooked hillary." he was putting that as i understood it inside of that title. he would throw her in jail if he could if he were president. i'm wondering now senator warren attached this sort of, well, it is every girl and we're all nasties in the context of what he was talking about that would not actually be all women. melissa: i listen to that i care about the economy. i care about -- harris: then there is that.
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melissa: income has fall inch so dramatically under president obama when he promised to help people get ahead. the gap between rich and poor grown dramatic i because of federal reserve policy only jacked the stock market. economic growth in this country is so tepid. jobs are not created. schools are terrible. we are not safe as country, we need to restore law and order, look at this, talking about, what donald trump thinks of hillary clinton and names that we're calling each other. harris: sounded like kellyanne conway just there, his campaign manager. i wonder also, is she scratching her head or is this part of the strategy? >> i just want to think of all those women who needed rallying cry from elizabeth warren to get out to vote. it is preposterous. kennedy: i don't know if that is effective rallying cry. as you point out, government is the impediment not solution. out your crackerjacks. neither team has won the fall classic in half a century.
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seeing from the ballpark in cleveland. the last time the cubs won the world series was in 1908. like this year there was presidential election going on. republican william howard taft defeated democrat william jennings bryan. a ticket to a cubs game went for a quarter. tickets for game 1 are going for $6,000. indians last won in 1948, also presidential election year. democrat harry truman beat republican thomas dewey. a ticket to old cleveland stadium a whopping 6 bucks. there is no billy goat curse. lifelong cubs fan. grew up with father, brother. there is no such thing. didn't see the bill murray t-shirt, doesn't exist. that dates back to the last time they were in the world series. a tavern owner brought a quote to the stadium. it stayed. ever since been a curse.
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harris: i'm fascinated. team with a biggest drought and team with second biggest drought in indians. they are going head-to-head. sandra: cubs fans are loyal. they have been waiting for this moment a very long time, lou dobbs. >> good on them. i love the fact, 1908, we're talking about the last time we had a major national populist figure running for the presidency in william jennings bryan. in universe rights themselves. we seek balance. maybe a win, huh? sandra: bryant was not victorious in 1908. perhaps his counterpart will be in 2016. kennedy: 10years later, lou dobbs. harris: i love how you decode what lou says. >> sometimes things are worth waiting for. sandra: two storied teams. will you be watching game 1. melissa: absolutely. i was thinking about the song at the beginning, put me in coach, i like sitting up front. harris: you know so much about
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baseball. melissa: that is all i have. >> wrigley field was not built last time cubs won the world series. i think harry carey is looking down with his glasses. harris: holy cow. >> go back to 1908, all that wasn't. harris: no velcro. this is big deal for both teams. i know which one we're leaning toward. sandra: no popcorn tonight, harris, get out the crackerjacks. harris: if i'm going for sweets i'm doing cobbler. sandra: go, cubs. indians, good luck. only place to see the historic series is on the fox broadcast network. game one happening to night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. that is can't-miss tv. thank you to lou dobbs. always good to have you sir. great show coming up tonight 7:00 p.m. on the fox business network. >> absolutely. we'll be looking at, this will shock everyone, the latest polls, the newest strategy and
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