first olympics in a country where my parents came from, it's pretty insane. i'm feeling nothing but excitement she says. it should be a fun ride. congratulations to her. she is so cute. and we'll be watching -- ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson sent to contestant and former white house aide omarosa man gowlt is back in the news. this time as a pundit. here is her latest critique of vice president mike pence, watch. >> as bad as y'all think trump is, you would be worried about pence. we would be begging for days of trump back if pence became president. it's scary. >> tucker: in just a moment pierce morgan joins us with a reaction to that he and omarosa competed on celebrity apprentice several years ago. she offered him sex in order to win and attacked him and his family when he turned it

down. sounds seedy and weird, of course it is. still not the strangest thing happening in washington right now. tonight we have more on the ongoing saga of the trump dossier. senators chuck grassley and lindsey graham have launched a probe into former national security advisor susan rice. in the very final minutes of the obama administration, just afternoon on inauguration day 2017, rice sent herself an email on the white house computer system. in it she describes a meeting she had attended just two weeks before on january 5th. at that meeting were president obama, vice president joe biden, fbi director jim comey, deputy a.g. sally yates and susan rice herself. according to rice in this email, obama instructed the officials in the room to consider withholding national intelligence from the incoming trump administration in case they were compromised by russia. in other words, almost two months after the presidential election, barack obama viewed trump not as his democratically elected successor but as a

traitor and a russian spy. obama viewed himself as someone who somehow had the right to withhold government documents from an elected president. that's not the behavior of someone who believes in democracy. and, yet, that meeting set the tone for that year and all subsequent arguments since. democrats have treated trump and his elections as illegitimate ever since then. and at the heart of their case against trump and this administration is the steele dot yea. so this day the dossier is the only publicly available document that details alleged collusion with russia. now, of course, we have talked a lot about the dossier on this program. but relatively little about what is in it. what does the dossier actually claim? is any of it true? after more than a year of probing by politicians and intelligence agencies and journalists, here's the sum total of what we actually know about the document that started all of this. we know the dossier was compiled by christopher steele, acting as a

contractor of fusion g.p.s. with funds supplied by the hillary clinton campaign and the dnc. the dossier was a form of opposition research designed to be used against trump in the presidential campaign. it was not an intelligence document. it was oppo. the dossier claims that russian authorities didn't simply collude with trump during the 2016 election, the charge you hear a lot about. it also claims that russian intelligence cultivated donald trump as a kind of asset, a kind of one-man sleeper cell for more than five years. there is no evidence of that. the dossier also claims the kremlin fed the trump team intel reports on hillary clinton and other political opponents for years. there's no proof of that either. it claims trump was favored by moscow with lucrative russian real estate deals as part of his cultivation as a political asset. that sleeper cell. no proof there either. according to the dossier, trump and russia were exchanging intelligence with each other for at least 8

years no. proof of that the dossier goes on to describe the clandestined meeting in prague between michael cohen and representatives that supposedly took place in august of 2016. this is one of the very few claims in the dossier that has been conclusively checked and it's false. cohen wasn't even outside the u.s. at the time the meeting supposedly took place. in sum, the steele dossier is absurd. the closer you read it, the more absurd it is. take 10 minutes to do so yourself. it's online. as you read it, ask yourself who would believe something like this? it's so transparently partisan and unlikely and stupid and flimsy, it reads like a parody of a badly written spy novel. at the same time he was firing people on the apprentice, donald trump was working with vladimir putin to subvert america? it's hard even to say that with a straight face. it's that stupid. yet, keep in mind and never forget, this is the document the fbi used to justify spying on american citizens. these are the claims that democrats in congress

repeatedly cited as the reason to stop the normal functioning of government in order to investigate the administration. this is the famous dossier that even today progressives in the media are spending millions in an attempt to corroborate. and it's all a stupid joke. amazingly a lot of people in power fell for it. congressman ron desantis is a republican representing the state of florida and he joins us tonight. congressman, thanks for coming on. >> good evening. >> tucker: the meeting that susan rice describes had her email the vice president and vice president sally yates and comey is really revealing. trump was accused of considering obama foreign with the birther stuff. obama did consider trump foreign, a foreign agent. can a sitting president deny government documents, intelligence to an incoming president? >> i don't see how you can do that. i mean, just think about what yates was on to at the time with michael flynn met with kislyak, the russian ambassador. that was one of the reasons why she sent the fbi agents to flynn once he got in.

so they were creating some type of boogie man really out of flynn acting like any incoming national security advisor would. >> tucker: a president's authority and legitimacy comes from voters winning an election. that's what makes you the president. how can one president say i don't think the next guy should have this. i don't think is he worthy of this information. >> i think it's improper to do that. it's interesting. this january 5th meeting in the oval with comey, what did comey do that very next day? that was when he briefed trump on the dossier. he went to trump tower. he showed him the dossier. that eventually got leaked to cnn and then that allowed the dossier to get put out into the bloodstream. also, during this whole transition time have you an unprecedented campaign of leaking classified information designed to put a cloud over trump's incoming presidency. so i think susan rice has a lot of questions that she is going to have to answer. why would you all of a sudden right as you are leaving the white house do that email saying obama said

do it by the book? it's just a really odd thing to do. she was trying to create a record and the question is why did she feel the need to do that. >> tucker: what's the answer? >> i think we have to find out the answer. i think it was clear that by the time trump got inaugurated, i mean, you had the permanent bureaucracy in the obama holdovers. they were putting, feeding information to the press on a daily basis. the first two or three months of his administration was constant bombshell reports, quote, unquote, all based on anonymous sources, all based on former or current u.s. officials. and that really started from the day he got elected all the way until the appointment of robert mueller as special counsel. >> tucker: the dossier itself which is the center the public consumption claims that trump was being cultivated by russian intelligence forever five years prior to becoming president is there any evidence that's true? >> no evidence that that's true. think about even what they used for carter page. i mean, the idea that the russian oil company -- energy company was going to

give him 10% stake or 20% stake in a company that is so big that would have been $10 billion that they were going to give to carter page and the fbi used that to get surveillance. so the only thing that has definitely been corroborated is that carter page did travel to russia during the campaign. did he that. he gave a public speech. none of the other key facts have been corroborated at all. >> tucker: not surprisingly. am i overstating it when i say as a normal person readings the dossier it seems prima facie absurd. you would have to be a moron to take that at face value. >> that's my reaction to it it's spectacular and something that comey was actually right about. salacious but unverified. >> tucker: yet, they used it as a basis for spying. it's upsetting. good sty. richard good stein is an power of attorney. he advised both of hillary clinton's presidential campaigns e joins us tonight. richard, great to see you. >> that for having me back. >> tucker: concedes this is

the very center of everything. this comes from buzzfeed. the publication now has apparently hired a former fbi official and others to travel the globe and try to corroborate it so far without success. but you buzzfeed is at the center of this. the fbi used this buzzfeed document to justify spying on an american citizen. so i'm wondering, were there other buzzfeed documents that are partisan? i read buzzfeed i'm sure do you too. >> of course. >> tucker: 31 things girls do in the bathroom but don't talk about. >> anything you want to talk about relevant to the facts that you love. >> tucker: stuff you love if you are lactose intolerant but can't stop eating dairy. >> fbi shielded donald trump because they knew the intelligence community knew that's what they briefed the president and vice president about in the susan rice memo about the fact that russians had interfered and outside the rules to go after hillary clinton. can we at least have that as a premise? >> tucker: the premise is

this: allegations were made against the trump administration. very specific ones. that they colluded with the russian government to win the election that moreover the president had been a long-time russian agent. and those are very serious allegations that former president took them serious enough as you just heard he considered withholding intelligence from the income president. so the question is if you make agencie allegations like tt do you have any obligation to prove them and do you have any obligation to apologize? >> let's talk about five year business and talk about what we know. what we know is michael flynn was a foreign agent. >> tucker: wait, slow down of russia? i'm asking. >> perky, we know that. >> turkey is the same as russia? >> he didn't disclose what he was being paid by russia or turkey we know that. we also know because of the wiretaps of kislyak that he asked kislyak, look, go easy we're going to not proceed with the sanctions. guess what? we just saw that within the past two weeks. lo and behold they did it

shocking. >> tucker: am i misremembering this? i think he campaigned on that in public. does that make him a russian agent? that's actually a policy position you can be against sanctions in russia as i am the and not be a russian agent? does that make sense. >> any russian official would be derelict if they knew that the national security advisor coming in could be compromised because he had lied about the fact that he was a foreign agent. he did not disclose that and guess what? just like rob porter was subject to blackmail, so was michael flynn and guess what if you are coming in -- i'm south i didn'ting we don't know, you are putting this as trump. what the president was saying in the susan rice memo is essentially we have a guy who is going to be sitting stepping from the oval office who is a foreign agent. okay? and we know he has got these ties to russia. we know he approached kislyak. and we can't trust that he won't approach kislyak about something that's more secret than sanctions. >> tucker: let me just ask you a question. are you allowed to a virch view on sanctions than the one barack obama has or the one that you have or is that

criminal? >> it's not a question -- >> tucker: do you realize you are going insane on tv. you are saying things totally legitimate and acting like they are immoral. >> have your official a foreign agent that is insane. that is demonstrably insane. that's what we h sorry. >> tucker: no, actually we didn't at that point. >> yes, we did. >> tucker: i would say as i have said 100 times on this show that it was wrong for mike flynn to make money from the government of turkey in point of fact when he showed up to the white house he was not a foreign agent at that point. like a lot of people in washington, including a lot of people you know, he took money interest a foreign government to change american policy. i think that's wrong. it happens every day and our policies are driven by that fact as you know. >> do that in the white house. in the white house, he used his authority to basically push policies that were going to benefit turkey he told susan rice don't go into raqqa, why? because it would involve the

kurdish military which was adverse to turkish interests. you talk about traitors. that's traitorism. >> tucker: traitorism. we are coining a new word. >> we are. >> tucker: none of that actually get to the point. you are saying he had taken money from the turkish government. that's wrong. i agree with you on that. but none of this has anything to do with the core claim, which is basically wrecked our government for over a year. and at a certain point do you feel like maybe you are responsible for this insanity which is destroying the concept of due process, making it impossible for anyone to think clearly? do you think maybe i'm part of this. maybe i should pull back a little bit and be rationale. >> four points in 10 seconds. the russians said to the trump people we can help you. donald trump jr. love it, bring it on. the russians did it with wikipedia and trump, therefore, used it 100 times on the campaign trail encouraging the russians to steal from hillary clinton. okay? >> tucker: oh. >> that is a problem. >> tucker: so does it bother you that the hillary clinton campaign paid through a

foreign intelligence agent steele, russian sources to gather russian government information to use against their opponent, donald trump? i'm not sure why that's so different? >> i will tell you. >> tucker: oh, very different. >> one step, the russians stole and what hillary clinton did was get information that was frankly a matter of public record. >> tucker: right. a matter of public record that trump was working for the russian government for five years? what public record was that? >> incidentally when the mueller report is finished, we will see what is fact and what's not. you can laugh. we can laugh. >> tucker: i can't tell whether you believe it or not. >> you might be the last one laughing here. >> tucker: i don't know. i may have to leave the country. if all i believed in is not true. pierce morgan made the stunning claim that former white house aid and semiprofessional television official omarosa offered him sex for n. return for her

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♪ ♪ >> tucker: long-time reality star omarosa manigault who amazingly worked at the white house at one point has a warning for americans who want the president impeached: be careful what you wish for. in an appearance on yet another reality show big brother on cbs, this happened last night. omarosa blasted the vice president as a religious extremist. watch. >> did i just say this as

bad as y'all think trump is, you would be worried about pence. we would be begging for days of trump back if pence became president. that's all i would say. he is extreme. i'm christian. i love jesus. but he thinks jesus tells him to say things. i'm like jesus doesn't say that it's scary. >> tucker: meanwhile over on "the view" another reality show the host there characterized the vice president's religious faith as mental illness. >> look, i'm catholic, i'm a faithful person, but i don't know that i want my vice president, you know, speaking in tongues. >> like i said before, i don't know -- >> it's one thing to talk to jesus. it's another thing when jesus talks to you. >> exactly. >> that's different. [applause] >> that's called mental illness if i'm not correct.

>> tucker: ppiers morgan joins us. >> hey, tucker. >> tucker: what do you make of this political pundit and dismissal of -- >> i find it absolutely ridiculous that we are even having to discuss omarosa in any serious political context of the only reason we are doing that was because she was allowed to have an office in the west wing of the white house for nearly a year. i don't know why donald trump would have ever let her in there. she is already behaving exactly how i could have predicted she would behave. in other words, squealing like a canary and taking them all down as, of course, she is going to. she is only rosa. she is a reality television star whose only to be poisonous viper spreading gossip, inend dough and terrorizing everyone in her wake. first question, what was she doing there? >> tucker: i couldn't agree more. >> i mean, seriously.

>> tucker: russian story this is a bigger scandal. omarosa worked in the white house? really? democrats didn't even notice. i guess she seems normal to them, i guess, i don't know. >> qui hav we have all this stuf porter. he shouldn't have been there either given what we know about him. questions for the administration right to the top about who knew what what, when, and where. if we are going to apply that logic and judgment to rob porter. where was that judgment about omarosa with her own office in the west wing? it is almost beyond parody. there is a serious point to this, tucker, who is the president surrounding himself with? i have known donald trump a long time. when i took part on celebrity apprentice with only rosa. he has to have better people around him in the white house, i think, than the types of people we see with rob porter and omarosa. >> tucker: i think omarosa is probably in her own category. i can say, you know, having

been over there a few times it's not chock-full of omarosas. she did work there she became famous for being horrible. i don't think it's an overstatement. you worked with her on the apprentice. what's she like? >> she is absolutely appalling. i mean, literally one of the worst human beings i have ever encountered in my life. i have encountered a lot of bad people. she has no saving grace. she was vicious, conniving, scheming, plotting, treacherous. she -- i mean her first gamut to me day one first challenge. she side arms up to me hey, piers we should have a showmance everyone on the apprentice has sex together and we could sell that and make lots of money. i said are you completely diluted? please, go away. she said what's the matter with you are you gay? i said no, just because i don't want to have sex with

you on this show it doesn't make me gay. i'm a victim of omarosa, tucker. but she gave me then for four or five weeks unrelenting five barrels of abuse, tirades, homophobic stuff and really vicious, nasty stuff. i couldn't believe it. she got beaten on the show. i ended up winning it. that stuck in her mind as well. come forward to the campaign middle of 2017. she is going to be working for donald trump the candidate. what? how can that even make any sense. then i hear when he wins she is going to be in the white house. now, look, again, i have a loft respect for donald trump. but i'm afraid with omarosa this made no sense at the time. it makes no sense now she has left. she apparently achieved absolutely nothing in her time in the white house other than disrupting everybody. and you can just bet your life she was there listening, plotting, scheming, probably tape

recording. we're now going to have celebrity big brother and all this stuff will come out of this. then we will have the book and then the docu series and lifetime movie, tucker at which point you and i will have to leave the country so ridiculously absurd. [laughter] >> tucker: that's one of the most vivid descriptions of anyone i have ever heard. have you been in contact with her? i suppose you are not texting each other. >> we have not stayed in touch. did i bunch in to her at wwe wrestling event. the nausea i felt in the exact moment she made that proposition to me all came flooding back. i literally had to run to the restroom and regurgitate what i had done all those years before. she is beyond any reproach. she is a professiona professione territory. least trustworthy human being ever conceived on god's earth. for her to be lying in to mike pence about religion when religion has somehow created this monster is

beyond any sense of realism you could ever wish to have. >> tucker: what a life you lead running into omarosa at wwe is so fantastic. piers morgan, come back any time. good to see you. >> i will. food to see you. >> tucker: thank you. democrats aren't pretending anymore. dick durbin said it out loud. we need to import more peasants so employers can save on wages. true that story in its details next. ♪ ♪ without starting from scratch. it brings your business up to speed, doing more with systems you have in place. it can bring all your apps to life and run them within your data center. it is... the new ibm cloud private. the cloud that's designed for your data. ai ready. secure to the core. the ibm cloud is the cloud for smarter business.

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>> tucker: democratic senator dick durbin of illinois was surprisingly forth right this week about why we need mass immigration to the united states. immigrants, durbin says, provide the low paying surf labor that american employers desperately want. watch. >> take time you look next time go nice restaurant city of chicago. look who just cleaned the dishes off the table and when the door swings look who is in the kitchen doing dishes. by and large going to be immigrants doing those things. not many of us say to our sons and daughters i'm hoping the day will come when you decide to go and pick fruit for a living. hardly ever hear that because we know it's hard, back-breaking work and immigrants do the work. so many jobs that they fill are jobs that americans aren't jumping to fill. >> tucker: actually fruit is picked by machines but whatever. ron eiler executive director of define american. he joins us tonight. ryan, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me,

tucker. >> tucker: so striking for someone as old as i am to have a democrat make this case. millions of americans who can't get by have the country can't get $400 on a day's notice. what they need are higher paying jobs. here you have a democratic senator saying no. the point is making sure employers pay as little as possible. import a lot of people from third world countries that will work for less. why is that helping americans and why is the emphasis not on raising their wages. >> yeah, tucker, i think what i would suggest that senator durbin was leaving out is the fact that many immigrants, in fact, twice as many as citizens start businesses. they come over, they try to bring their families, to start family businesses. join families of faith and, sure. many are working in our fields and frankly our agriculture industry would not survive if it were not

for the three quarters of immigrants working in that industry just like in many cities. >> tucker: i don't know if your facts have caught up to current reality which is agriculture is increasingly mechanized. takes far fewer people. >> it is. >> tucker: overwhelmingly mechanized, actually. among daca recipients about a group we know a lot. what's the most single common job among daca recipients? working in restaurants. >> yes. >> tucker: you are talking about low wage, low skilled jobs and also talking about people who are less educated than average native born americans. only 5% of daca recipients have college degrees. that's exactly the group of jobs that's going away because of automation. there has been a lot of the study on this. very weird to me that you would import millions of people to do jobs that are disappearing. why are we doing that. >> because the more immigrants that come here the more jobs that are actually created. so the rhetoric is good and i realize, look, i'm here in kentucky. we are a poor state. my own family, as a matter

of fact, i worked on a farm when i was growing up. i know what kind of back-breaking labor that is i know what we're talking about. i'm worried about that part of the economy, too. but, the truth of the matter is, what we're talking about here has been the backbone of our entire country since the beginning. it's always been family-based migration as it was for your family. >> tucker: what you're doing and i realize you are a minister. i get it you are making a kind of moral argument. i would say half-baked. i'm making economic argument. do you know what supply and demand is the never changing rule if you have overabundance of something its value falls. if you bring in a million new labor borerers, every year what happens to wages at the end? can you guess? they go down. >> all the data is suggesting overall on the whole wages go up on that economic argument. i would say that's the same for your great grandfather. >> tucker: i'm just as an economic matter, how did we

suspend the law of supply and demand when it comes to immigration? it applies to everything else in life. sand is cheap there is a lot of it. not cheap for immigrant labor because of why. >> because the more human beings that are in a place the more they can buy your products. the more human beings that are creating businesses, the more business and entrepreneurship you have. that's been the trick for all of american history. that's what has made our economy so vibrant. go back on that, tucker. >> tucker: hold on, so by that i don't think you have the facts on your side. as theoretical side if low labor makes you rich why isn't mexico richer than the united states? >> well, first of all, i would suggest that you can go to define american.com/facts matter and can you see all of these facts. >> tucker: it actually is richer than the united states? is importing poor people makes you rich, why hasn't it worked for the rest of the world? >> why is the america, tucker that was good enough

for my great grandfather and clearly good enough for your great grandfather who didn't have the merit that you are talking about to come, why is that no longer the america that's good enough for. >> tucker: i would say you know nothing about for one thing my great grandfather and secondly because the economy has changed. it's 2018. we are in a post industrial part of the economy. it's also a lot easier to get here than it ever was. and by the way mackenzie just estimated by 2030 we are going to lose 73 million jobs. you seem not at all concerned by that i bet you if you looked at donors they are big businesses that want cheap labor. i'm throwing that out there. that's just a guess. ignoring facts relevant to modern america. >> as a matter of fact, i'm supporting those facts. look, we ought to be concerned with the mechanickization of labor. immigrants are not creating that as a matter of fact, look at all the businesses created by immigrants in silicon valley it would not be here literally if the current plan on the table that the senate is looking at and that the trump administration is proposing were to be passed.

>> tucker: oh, that's actually -- hold on, i'm not here to defend congress or trump or whatever. i just want to defend the country and say then why wouldn't we limit all future immigration to immigrants with the same profile of the people who started those businesses in silicon valley? >> well, because that's not what the current plan suggests. >> tucker: no, no. why wouldn't we say look, if you have an advanced degree in engineering, you can come here, how is that regardless of color and national origin and if you have a high school education you can't. would that work? >> did your great grandfather or did you have engineering degree at graduate level. >> tucker: i was born here. these are people who don't live here. we get to decide whether they come or not. why wouldn't we get people more impressive why would we bring in people with fifth grade educations? what's the answer? >> well, because we are a country in our most prominent harbor reads give me your tired, your poor. >> tucker: you don't have

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>> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: left leaning judge declared that illegal immigrants once they sneak in have a right to be unmolested by federal legal authorities and if americans try to do something about it they are the criminals? >> well, actually the characterization that you make is incorrect. these are not people who snuck on in. these are majority of these people were individuals who were here on a work visa that had expired. some individuals in this case were actually u.s. citizens, who were just born in a foreign country. and what happened here is a practice going on in many parts of the country. local jails. los angeles sheriff's department children services surprised by. typically you see this in more obscure places. >> tucker: let me be clear about something. the american citizens are born in other countries, that's a mistake. that's not germane to the policy. that's not germane to this debate. they were accidentally picked up and shouldn't have been. >> part of the class of plaintiffs that sued and actually won in this situation.

that's not true, tucker. >> tucker: what is true is the judge's order pertains to people here illegally. and i should clarify. it doesn't matter how you got here whether you ran over the border and stayed here illegally. >> one person was a u.s. citizen. at least one person. >> tucker: that doesn't apply. u.s. citizens have a right to live here by definition. it's their country. people here illegally don't have right to be here. >> tucker, if i could state this. what was illegal here was how the los angeles county sheriff's department was operating. they basically were getting these detainer requests and it's a request. it's not a requirement for them to act in accordance with. okay. by ice. okay, so it's voluntary on their part. they are not required by law to act on this. they were then going, rounding up and picking up people simply on these detainer requests which did not have any probable cause. that's what the judge found there was no probable cause for these detainer requests. >> tucker: what do the americans have. i'm losing track here.

do we have a right to tell people who are not here legally to leave and make them leave if they don't leave? >> tucker, what you need to walk away with in this case is that undocumented immigrants have legal rights. >> tucker: i hear every day. what are our rights as americans do we have the right people here legally to leave. >> we have the right as tax paying citizens. we have a right to make sure our tax dollars are not being directed towards chasing people who are here and whose matters are to be dealt with in -- they are supposed to be dealt with in civil court. these are civil offenses. these are not crimes. being here because you overstayed a visa is not a crime. it is a civil offense. >> tucker: let me ask you did. >> to be dealt with in the immigration courts which we as the taxpayers pay for. >> tucker: i would like to get a clear answer on this. which is does the country have a right to determine who from other countries

gets to stay here and to say you are not allowed to be here, you didn't go through the process that our congress designed and now you have to leave? you are saying no we don't have that right. >> i'm not saying that. >> tucker: yes, you are. >> i'm saying the courts found. >> tucker: devoted a lot of time stripping us of that right. >> i'm not an immigration attorney. i do not devote any time to what you are stating. what i'm saying that the court found these are matters that have to be resolved. civil offenses that have to be resolved in the immigration courts. >> tucker: i get it? >> that's what has to happen. >> tucker: hold on. this is important this is the core question. >> and so is the judge's ruling. >> tucker: does the country have a right to tell people who are here legall illegally to leave and you are saying no. the entire left is saying no. >> i'm not saying no and neither is the left. we have laws that provide protections. these matters, if you want to deport somebody, that's fine. you don't go to a criminal court. you go to the civil court, immigration court. >> tucker: no jurisdiction in the state in immigration

matters? that's what you are arguing? >> they do have jurisdiction in. >> tucker: they do? tell that to the attorney general of california. >> in the immigration court that have been established by our laws and that we as taxpayers pay for. when they take money out of your paycheck and take money out of mine, it's to pay for these courts to make sure people do. >> tucker: illegals being mean to weren't supposed to be here in the first place and we are violating their rights. i wish you would spend more time thinking about the rights of american citizens. >> i do. i'm an american citizens and we protect ours and those who have constitutional rights, which they do. supreme court decision. >> tucker: i got that thanks. >> have a great valentine's day. >> tucker: yeah. a princeton professor has been forced to cancel his class on free speech after a students couldn't handle speech. that story with brit hume next.

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♪ >> tucker: a professor at princeton has just discovered the limits of academic freedom, the fragile feelings of students. as part of a lesson on free speech in anthropology class the professor called boris rosen asked students whether it was worse for a white man to physically attack a black man or to use a racial slur. students didn't react well. many stormed out. at least one got in his face and screamed the f word. rosen has cancelled his class. brit hume went to college when it was different joins us now. [laughter] so, brit. >> it's been a while though. don't ask me how long it's been. >> tucker: i won't. but, what i found so striking about this one, this class -- this is not something he threw out there. this class was about speech, what speech is offer. it was anthropology class. how odd is it that princeton students couldn't handle it?

>> well, we're talking here about the n word, which is one of the ugliest words in the language. >> tucker: for sure. >> we don't go around using it for that reason and it's offensive. however, i would submit there is a difference between using the word and mentioning the word. there is a difference between using the word that is to say calling someone that or speaking of others and using that word saying that they are, you know, that. and mentioning and discussing the word. and in a class devoted to this very subject of language and what's offensive and what's not, you ought to be able to mention the word and in so doing say the word. after all the professor wasn't calling anybody by that name. he was simply discussing the word itself. and that's a distinction that seems to me has been lost in this absolute wave of political correctness in which some things are simply now unsayable. >> tucker: yes. >> to me it makes no sense. >> tucker: like most people i hate that word and i don't

want to hear it i also would like to think that princeton students would be rationale enough to say we are having a speech violence. is speech ever violence this is a horrible thing and here is what it is. they would be able to track that be smart enough to understand what you are saying but it doesn't seem like they were. >> no. i think one of the problems here, tucker, is that, you know, america is a compassionate country and a country that strives for justice and equality and we want to be sensitive to other people's feelings. and, therefore, if you're a victim in any of these areas, it's kind of a good deal. you get a lot of consideration. you get a lot of sympathy. and it seems to me that we have reached a stage in america where we have people basically going around applying for victim status or seeking to be offended so they can react to it and be indignant and even yell f bombs at college professors. and i sense that it's

utterly regrettable. you see this sensitivity going on all the time. we talk about snowflakes. our colleague fox news contributor guy benson ran into resistance up at brown university and ivy where people said it was offensive and wrong for him to be permitted to speak there. this all spartan part of the same phenomenon. widespread and widely reported on. i think most people in america disprove of this and yet on it goes. the responsibility falls upon university administrators and the faculty which put up with this crap and have for a long time. and this needs to stop. >> tucker: in the letter at brown they accuse guy benson probably the nicest guy in the building enabling white supremacy. if you had an 18-year-old right now would you be worried about sending that child to college? >> well, i have an 18-year-old grand daughter who is at college. and i'm pleased to say that there hasn't been many reports at the college where

she is going of this kind of stuff going on. but it very much concerns me and, yeah, i am concerned about it and i got another granddaughter coming along in a couple years heading off to college and i very much hope that she'll choose a college and will be able to get into a college where there is a minimum of this kind of stuff going on. more than that, tucker, i hope by this time that that attitudes about this will change and these college administrators will begin to grow some backbone. >> tucker: i hope. so the revolution will burn itself out. brit, thank you very much. >> you bet, tucker. >> tucker: great to see you. if you travel at all, you know that cnn is ubiquitous in airports. why does america's least impressive cable channel dominate america's least pleasant location. we actually looked into that question. we have got findings for you next. ♪ ♪ ♪ the tears are in your eyes,

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years ago. these days the channel has strayed so far to the left and wacky left conspiracy superiors and strange advice from chris cuomo, have you got to wonder what's going on. airports are like an lesser version of hell food and propaganda posing as food on cnn. why is this network, this channel in every airport in america? we decided to find out. and surprising large number of cases the reason is that cnn is literally paying to have you watch them. cnn has a special package called cnn airport it combines news, sports, and travel in at least 60 airports cnn has signed agreements to show the channel in miami, for example, cnn airport pace the airport authority a minimum of 150 grand a year. in minneapolis, the airport authority there told us, quote, cnn covers the cost related to the tvs and infrastructure and pays us for the opportunity to be in our facility. which raises the question how much would you have to be paid to watch cnn? if the answer is no amount

would be enough, we don't blame you. unfortunately at the airport you don't have a choice. when given a choice, people don't watch. hope that changes. good night. over to sean hannity in new york city. hey, sean. >> sean: was that a rhetorical question? you can't pay me to watch cnn. that's the answer. >> tucker: that's true. >> sean: all right. tucker. welcome to hannity. we have a ton of new breaking information tonight. according to new bombshell report the house intelligence committee is honing in on former obama intelligence officials john brennan and james clapper about how they may have politicized and, in fact, weaponized this phon phony fake news dossier about donald trump. john brennan did he commit perjury over comments he made under oath about if he knew hillary clinton had funded that dossier filled with russian lies. and also breaking at this hour, senators grassley and graham, they are demanding answers about a miss serious email that susan rice sent to herself on president trump's inauguration day about an important meeti