no. i don't know how to respond to that. was it you or me? shannon bream is up next. she has actual exclusive interview tonight with the real attorney general, jeff sessions, from los angeles. shannon, take it away. >> shannon: listen, i was wondering how you're caught up with him too. laura is everywhere. we've got that coming up for you, and here is what we have tonight. our exclusive interview with attorney general jeff sessions as he unleashes a federal crackdown on the state of california accusing state lawmakers of making it nearly impossible for it i.c.e. agents to do their job. plus how he feels about the president spray public tweets questioning how the attorney general is doing his job. plus, the ag calling for 82nd special counsel and his management style in a wide-ranging multipart interview tonight. not everyone in california opposes the trump administration's crackdowns. we'll hear from the california

bar maker chosen elected lawmaker of the year, at melissa melendez. plus, a signing ceremony on aluminum and steel tariffs tomorrow. she corresponded ed henry investigates what is in the final package and how critics a. ♪ hello, and welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream, tonight in los angeles. breaking news on trade with a planned announcement on tariffs now apparently up in the air. this is the showdown with california deepens tonight. the mayor of oakland asking attorney general jeff sessions, how dare you? the trump administration's lawsuit against california over its immigration policies and the push on tariffs part of a 2-pronged offenses amid russian investigations and alleged turmoil in the white house. team coverage tonight. chief national corresponded

ed henry standby with breaking news on tariffs paid first, trace gallagher breaks down a world whirlwind week for jeff sessions, our exclusive interview with him minutes away. stick around for that. first to trace. >> shannon, great to see you tonight. climate change, among other things, but this lawsuit has breathy feuds to a different level. during his 25-minute speech to law enforcement officials, attorney general jeff sessions for california sanctuary laws are unconstitutional and violate common sense. watch. >> it cannot be the policy of a great nation to up and reward those who unlawfully enter its country with legal status, social security, welfare, food stamps, immigration law is the problem of the federal government. it's in the constitution. >> governor jerry brown shot back, calling sessions a liar and accusing the ag of going to war with california to appease

president trump. watch this. >> this is really unprecedented for the chief law enforcement of the united states to come out to california and act more like fox news than a law enforcement officer. >> sessions also do drew the wh of other officers like libby schaaf we called up for warning about immigration agents. the attorney general said to her, "how did you needlessly endanger the lives of law enforcement?" schaaf responded with a few of her own "how dare yous?" 's >> how dare you vilify members of our community by trying to frighten the american public into thinking that all undocumented residents are dangerous criminals? >> the department of justice quickly pointed out that last fall local police and northern california arrested an illegal immigrant for spousal abuse, but before i.c.e. could pick him up,

he was set free, only to be rearrested a short time later for murder. jeff sessions today marks one week since president trump criticized him for asking and the inspector general to investigate alleged surveillance abuses, tweeting "why is ag jeff sessions testing inspector general's to investigate potentially massive pfizer abuse. we'll take forever, has no prosecutorial power, and already late with reports on comey, et cetera. isn't the ig and obama guy? mine is justice department powers? disgraceful." took another jab at the ag during a dinner last weekend, joking that "i offered him a ride over, but he recused himself." the attorney general initially pushed back last week, and for the last few days, shannon, the feud seems to have calmed down a bit. >> shannon: all right, it is great to have you on the front lines and to be here with you in california and to see you in

person. great to see you, trace. fox news alert. the president planning to hold a tariff-signing ceremony tomorrow. big news tonight on that front. chief national corresponded ed henry joins us with the late-breaking develop mints. what can you tell us? >> shannon, great to see you on the other coast. planning to go ahead on those tariffs, and for us at 3:30 p.m. eastern time tomorrow, a signing ceremony at the white house barely two days after gary cohn's exit, to show he is in charge, defying leaders in his own party. but we are just learning this hour, this event now looks like it is now not on the schedule r the president tomorrow, because the lawyers at the white house we were told, they are still trying to put all of the details to make together. in addition, the man who prevailed over gary cohn on tariffs, trade advisor peter navarro, appeared tonight on the fox business network and signal that despite the president's assistance that these would be sweeping, navarro said there would be a clause against canada

and mexico, a 30 day exemption. remember, the much-maligned advisor jared kushner is in mexico right now after meetings with that country's president. other top officials in this move, seen as an attempt to hold a carrot out to mexico as well as canada that they make progress in the nafta renegotiations, and maybe they will not face these tariffs, which could upset other allies in europe who also want exemptions. the president took a very hard line himself earlier today, and seeming to signal he is ready to widen any trademark, attacking china over the theft of intellectual property, tweeting "china has been asked to develop a plan for a year of a $1 billion reduction in their massive trade with the u.s. our relationship has been a good one, we look forward to seeing what ideas they come back with. we must act soon." his partner mike press secretary struck a more diplomatic tone. >> there are potential routes

for them and possibly other countries as well based on that process. >> reporter: [indistinct question] >> again, that'll be a that'll be case-by-case and country by country process, but it would be determined whether or not therey exemption. >> you can see there are exemption carve outs, caveats. wall street future is at this hour, much more in the green, you saw over the last 24 hours the specter of harsher tariffs. plus, gary cohn's exit. remember, stocks rallied after going about 82 points down after starting with losses of a worth -- under the law that gives the president the authority to impose these tariffs, he has 15 days from signing them to actually act on them. there is wiggle room once he does not does sign them. we are picking up that he is not likely to sign them tomorrow. that is a big change that signals the white house as may be trying to calm the markets ended leaders in their own party. >> shannon: there are so many ripple effects, good and bad

depending on who you listen to. ed, thank you very much. we are coming to life in california tonight and next week president trump make his first trip to the golden state. he is expected to headline a high dollar fund-raiser in beverly hills for his reelection campaign and the republican party. he will also stop by san diego to inspect border ball prototypes. this comes as a department of justice sues california over the laws the feds say are making it nearly impossible to crack down on illegal immigration. going to hear from the attorney general in our exclusive interview in just a moment. sessions insisting he is trying to make california safer by going after criminal illegal immigrants. our next guest agrees with that plan and other top california officials who are now slamming the attorney general, why don't you help us clean up california customer let's talk to her, california is slim is assemblywoman, melissa melendez. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> shannon: let's talk about some of the reaction that the attorney general is getting paid i want to play a little bit of

sound. this comes from your attorney general here in the state of california, not a fan of this law. here is what he says. >> eight make here in california, we respect the law and the constitution. we expects to kick federal the same. >> shannon: how do these sides see this so differently, both say you are not adhering to the constitution. >> what is interesting to those who have been watching this unfold, attorney general becerr becerra, who came to him congress, had a number of years to do something but the immigration reforms, they did nothing, now he is in the state of california, crying when someone is trying to enforce the immigration laws that are on the books. when you have president trump saying, look, we are going to enforce federal law and have a state of california saying, we're not going to allow you to do so, you have a major problem, i think, as you have seen so far, they are butting heads.

we are number one in poverty in california. we have the highest gas taxes. we have a homelessness problem. we have veterans living on the street. so for us, we are saying to the democrats and two becerra, look at the issues that we have in california. stop with this tour that they are on of resisting from three to do your job here in california. >> shannon: california has been the epicenter of a lot of the resistant and a lot of the movements that have sprung up against trump administration policies on things like daca and, you know, the travel ban, they come through this area through the ninth circuit which is not a fan of the president's many policies on the front. what do you make of that? california does have some significant problems. we were looking through the worst quality of life ranking, 43rd in financial stability, last place in urban air quality, and second to last in voter participation, 44th and community participation. bias california having these

issues? >> i think you are seeing the majority party here in california that has a priority list that doesn't match up with californians. if you look at the long list of issues that you mention, that i mentioned, these are the things i californians think about. this message going on right now, this is the last thing on their mind. when you have the state government in california that has devoted millions of dollars to the legal defense of those who are facing deportation in california, contrast that with the combat veterans we have who are homeless and sleeping in a riverbed in california, i think most californians see that their priorities are out of whack. we need to concentrate on the problems at home and stop with embarking on the journey of the resistance to or against president trump. >> shannon: what do you make of oakland mayor libby schaaf, getting a lot of headlines. she said a couple of things, that they have a legal right to exist as a sanctuary city. she has said, "how dare you," to the u.s. attorney general, said

we are not going to allow these laws in california that make a topper for us to do our job. but there is plenty of pushback. i heard a number of your colleagues saying, bring it on, we are going to enact these lawsuits and we are confident of that. >> i listened to part of the press conference today, and i heard them say, oh, the trump administration needs to stop playing politics, or, they are making this a political game. which is ironic considering sp 54 was all about politics. that was rolled out as, i think, the centerpiece of the resistance to drum. it started with politics in california, and when the government says, look, you can't put policies into place, california, that are in direct conflict with california make federal law, we have a problem and were going to come in and solve it for you. i'm disappointed that all of these other things that we have on the books, all of the other issues, that they haven't come

together and had a conversation with the federal government about those issues, those problems, and instead, they want to poke their nose into the trump administration. every single day. this started when we foreign and right after the presidential election. the very first day we were sworn in, typically a celebratory day, people's families and children are there. it was the very first day, playing the gauntlet down and introducing a resolution that was everything anti-trump. those of us who know what is going on in california and the problems are saying, why aren't you paying attention to what is going on right here in our backyard? >> shannon: we had a really interesting time getting folks like you and others here, part of the resistance, part of the other side, and we found that you speak russian too. thank you for your service to this country and for being with us tonight. we appreciate it. all right, "the new york times"

reported that president trump spoke to witnesses about matters they discussed with special counsel robert mueller's team. the "times" states this likely didn't rise to witness tampering. they told fox news that the former chief of staff reince priebus about the interview with mueller. saying he simply asked reince priebus how he was treated and whether they were nice to him. what new, "the washington post" also reporting that the former head of black/white it may have misled lawmakers about it meeting you had with russians in an island chain in the indian ocean. he told the house intelligence committee that the meeting took took -- trying to get together on fighting isis. that much is already public knowledge, but saying that special counsel robert miller has evidenced the meeting may have been about setting up a channel of communication between the kremlin and the incoming trump administration. we'll continue to track that story.

source is also telling fox news that the trump administration is going forward with sanctions against russia. it may include a broader list than originally expected. treasury secretary steven mnuchin telling congress yesterday that the sanctions would target the 13 russians indicted by special counsel mueller for the 2016 election. it may also contain russian oligarchs. executives from the video game industry going to the white house to talk about whether there is an make a connection between games and real-life violence. a spokesperson for the entertainment software association, which will be part of the meeting, they are looking forward to a "fact-based conversation about game ratings." white house says this is just going to be the first of many meetings between leaders and lawmakers. coming up, our exclusive 1-on-1 with jeff sessions. ted cruz claims his texas senatorial opponent beto

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have an open border, because whenever anyone is apprehended, it seems that we have persons who want to block their removal from the country no matter what the circumstances. it is an extreme position that has been taken by some here, a lot of the government agencies here, and we just have to pushback. i wish it weren't so, but it is. >> shannon: your message basically this morning was, we're not asking authorities here to help us actively enforce this, but we're saying, don't actively obstruct but we are trying to do. >> that's exactly right. people try to spin this somehow that we are demanding that state and local officials go out and do the work of the federal government. we do like their help. most states and jurisdictions around the country don't. but we cannot allow them to obstruct a and block the abiliy of federal officers to do the

job they are lawfully required to do. >> shannon: let's talk about some of the reaction. not surprising, governor brown says, jeff sessions has come to california to further divide and polarize america. the attorney general here, xavier becerra, said, essentially, this is a b-rated movie. >> i don't know what mr. becerra means by that, but he has threatened businesses in california telling them he will threaten them under the new california law if they even admit voluntarily i.c.e. officers to their businesses. this is a radical approach. so i have to challenge this. we can't allow this to happen. we want every state in america to do this, so california has placed us in the position, and the governor, by signing the bill, has placed us in the position where we cannot accept this and we have got to challenge it, and i made clear today why we were challenging at, why it is important, and why we've got to stop it.

>> shannon: house minority leader nancy pelosi, this her home state, instead of the recent i.c.e. raids, they are meant to terrorize people. she said, "the shocking abuse of law enforcement power." she said happy people rounded up had no -- half the people rounded up had no criminal record. >> many of them had already had hearings and been deported, many of them are serious criminals. she, the mayor of oakland, warned them all to run and hide before the arrests were going to take place. there is nothing wrong about these raids. it is exactly what i.c.e. officers are supposed to do. by that we have i.c.e. officers? they just going to sit in their offices and do nothing? i think ms. pelosi is an error totally in her comments to the work of the officers she funds and congress funds every day. i'm not happy with that comment, and we are going to push back.

we are going to defend our officers and the honorable work they do every day. >> shannon: you mentioned the oakland mayor, libby schaaf. she says this. "we will continue to exercise our legal right to exist as a sanctuary city." is there a legal right to exist as a sanctuary city? >> it depends on what you mean as a sanctuary city. i don't think there is a right to do some of the things that are being done now, at some of the things in the love that are challenging in court. so, yes, people can have different views on immigration, but you cannot obstruct the lawful actions of the federal government. >> shannon: all right, that is just topic number one. stay tuned, because we are just getting started with attorney general jeff sessions. he's going to talk about his relationship with the president, how it's going, how he handles negative tweets directed at him, and building and a a second special counsel? you're not going to want to miss that. and what height turnout really means for the democrats.

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>> shannon: the 2018 midterm election season is officially underway, kicked off in texas, and the one generating the most buzz is democratic congressman beto o'rourke. he champions policies that might sound great to democratic baits, but how will they play in a general election against republican ted cruz? hey, leland. >> good evening, even democrats face an identity crisis they will have to solve if they wanted blue wave to sweep america in 2018. take the texas senate race, for example. we are getting an early look at how ted cruz will attack his upcoming opponent. how will he do it?

on his perceived strength as a a -- take a look at this with the country song. >> ♪ so he changed his name to beto ♪ ♪ and hit it with a grin ♪ wants those open borders and he wants to take our guns ♪ ♪ not a chance on earth ♪ he'll get a vote from texas ♪ if you're going to run in texas ♪ ♪ you can't be a liberal man >> o'rourke won the texas primary by putting up huge numbers of democratic primary numbers, among his more controversial proposals, providing undocumented immigrants with free legal assistance to fight deportation and another providing them with free health care. in addition to the ad, cruz

attacked o'rourke as a version of bernie sanders, and they wonder if it will make them more vulnerable in the general against ted cruz. >> it is very hard to knock off an incumbent. i believe the average for most u.s. senators is somewhere in the mid to high 80s. o'rourke is going to bring a lot of money, he will make us competitive. let's not forget, texas is a very red state. >> this area isn't new to democrats. they learn the same electronic lesson in the last few election cycles where staunch red areas lost to -- >> shannon: so many calculations that happened, going left, going rate, and it is all underway. thank you very much, leland. >> yes, ma'am.

>> shannon: time now for a "real news roundup," check it out. just this past monday, former president barack obama reportedly repeated a now disproved claim on school shootings. the "washington examiner" said mr. obama told an audience 18 school shootings this year. it breaks my heart. but that claim about 18 has been debunked by numerous news outlets including "the washington post" ." a left-leaning massachusetts newspaper has some surprising advice for democratic senator elizabeth warren. while many massachusetts except the claim of native american heritage, the president doesn't. he often claims to her as "pocahontas." somewhat like to legacy that settles, an op-ed saying that warren should get a dna test. "all the senator needs to do is spit in a tube, wait a few weeks, and get her answer. no matter if the test came up a negative or positive, it would constitute a plus for war and

enter political hopes." illinois senate benjamin thomas both making headlines by running as the "candidate candidates. politico reporting that an ex-girlfriend who interned for the democrat's campaign is accusing him of being abusive. she says that the candidate's candidate hit her and pinned her to the ground with his foot. wolf is denying all claims of abuse. coming up, more of our one-on-one with the attorney general, the fisa abuses, but will the attorney general do? we all hear his response to the request. and the "fox news @ night" pane panel, stick around. definitely doesn't have that... you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance.

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>> shannon: house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte and house oversight committee chairman trey gowdy pending a letter to the attorney general asking for a second special counsel citing as part of that the so-called fisa abuses. as the attorney general when he thinks of their requests. >> well, i have great respect for mr. gowdy and chairman goodlatte, and we are going to consider seriously their recommendations. i have appointed a person outside of washington, many years and the department of justice, to look at all of the allegations that the house judiciary committee members sent to us and we are conducting the investigation.

also, i am well aware that we have responsibility to ensure the integrity of the fisa process. we are not afraid to look at that. the inspector general, something that our inspector general is not very strong, but he has almost 500 employees, most of which are lawyers and prosecutors, and they are looking at the fisa process. we must make sure it is done properly, and we are going to do that, and i will consider the request. >> shannon: i know that a couple of things they chairman out blind, they were buried the inspector general went have the same kind of access or subpoena powers to people who might be out of the reach of the doj as employees. what do you say to that concern? >> that is a concern that i think it's worthy of consideration, and we will consider that and are considering it. >> shannon: so the fisa application that we have heard so much about in the news, there have been requests directly to the fisa courts to see some of that material that has been

referred back to the doj. would you i'll release this application so people can see what was in them? >> i am determined to release everything that is properly releasable. it does tend to be that the more you put the documents out, many of which are very sensitive, the more they leak, so we have to be careful about that. we also have to follow the rules of the department legally. for example, the text messages that cause quite a stir, those were produced at our effort to make sure we produced everything possible. the inspector general actually found those first and then we made that public and we determined we could make it public. some objected to it. you are raising a good point, but we need to get as much public, out to the public as possible, and do it in a way that creates confidence. and if there are errors within the department, we need to fix

it. we have got a new fbi director, president trump appointed him. he is a talented person. he has got a new deputy replacing the previous deputy. we've got our new chief of staff and the fbi, a new communications director, energy of counsel. so we've got a fresh start at the fbi, and these are people with plenty of ability. i want the american people to know that things are being done and we'll have the kind of department that everybody can respect. that is a determination of mine. but we've got to do it in a proper way. >> shannon: as to these decisions that you're making, a very famous tweet last week, "why is ag jeff sessions asking the inspector general to investigate potentially massive fisa abuse. it will take forever, has no prosecutorial power, already late with reports on comey. isn't the ig and obama guy?

why not use justice department lawyers. disgraceful." you followed up with a statement that said, as long as i am the attorney general, i will continue to discharge my duties with integrity and honor. he talked about the work that has been done and the appropriate process. then you went out to dinner with the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, and the solicitor general . and i'm not sure how that went over at the white house. what is the status? >> well, he is my deputy, and noel is a great solicitor general and a lot of fun. but, look, the president is the president of the united states. he has a right to criticize and make suggestions to the department of justice. we take that with great respect. what i said in that statement also was, we are determined to make sure the american people have confidence in the fisa process. that was part of my statement too. i say that as long as i am

attorney general, we are going to make sure we do those things with integrity and justice as the american people want. >> shannon: the president has said in the last couple of days, he likes some chaos, he likes some conflict. he thinks it makes him better, his decisions better, and he likes to mix it up. he is actually taking things off his agenda, what do you make of his management style? >> i think president trump moves the ball. he can get things done that i am not sure any other person in america could get done. he is bold, not worried about what people say. i believe in the policies that he is advancing. that's why i supported him so early for president. he was saying the things that i thought americans had a right to hear. he was promising to act on those things and get things done, and he does not like things not getting done. he keeps pushing every day. it is a remarkable strength that he has, and i think it is good for america.

>> shannon: hmm. is it good for jeff sessions though? i don't know. here for reaction, fox news contributor, leslie marshall, senior columnist at townhall.com, kurt schlichter, so nice to see you guys in person. >> so nice to be here, welcome. >> shannon: thank you so much. fabulous town filled with fabulous people. right now, your state in a little bit of turmoil over some of the bombs of the attorney general dropped. let's go back to that. he is cracking down on number of laws here that make it tough for the feds to do what they need to do. leslie, the reception has not been good for most of the democratic lawmakers who say it is a political stand, it's phony. >> i do think it is political. i do think people need to look at -- we should thank, in a sense, the attorney general. this could clarify something that has constantly been argued with the constitution, and that is, where is that man with state law, where is that line, and how much power it does they have to

make laws with regard to issues like that? >> shannon: i covered the supreme court a few years ago, and even though they allowed some of that to move forward, much of the language was all about the defense, really -- that the feds were the ones that were going to be running that. >> the immigration policy reserved to the federal government. what's funny about arizona, arizona wanted to be harder on illegal aliens, california wants to -- it wants to actively interfere with the federal government's primary responsibility of defending our borders. this is a bad idea. history teaches us it's a bad idea. back about 150 years ago, they fired at fort sumter, that worked out poorly for them. it is very much along the same lines. look, our house of representatives, arsenic, and art president signed a bill and a law, this is the law of the

land. and california is seeking to undermine it. totally disrupting the constitutional order. it can be tolerated. >> shannon: your attorney general here said, we do follow the law of the constitution, we hope the feds do as well. it starts out with a judge who was appointed by george w. bush, correct? the politics is not supposed to play into it, but it starts there, go through the ninth circuit, probably to see supreme court. we'll see. i want to ask about some of the other things with the u.s. attorney general, the idea that there is a push for a second special counsel. trey gowdy for a long time said he wasn't a fan, but, leslie, now he says the public may not have confidence in letting the doj investigate itself. we need someone from the outside. the attorney general didn't rule it out but he didn't commit to it. >> i don't think there is any "there" there. i loved your question, show us some of what is going on, show us some of your hand. everything that i have seen, and

i'm not a fan of this administration, but i want truth as an american. you know, regardless of being a democrat or otherwise. and everything that i have seen with regard to the information that was provided from the judge that was issuing the values that warrant at the time was told about the dossier, that it was paid for by a political organization, but he wasn't given -- >> shannon: wasn't told the nc or hillary clinton. >> if i had gone to a federal judge and tried to pull shenanigans, it would be a race between me being disbarred and thrown in the pokey. >> if that is the case, how come we don't have the attorney general going, yes, we need to have a separate independent counsel -- >> we do. and the reason is, unfortunately, jeff sessions, who is an honorable and decent man, also looks on the department of justice as an

institution that needs to be protected. he loves the doj. unfortunately, the american people have grave doubts about the propriety and the actions in the department of justice, whether it has been corrupted, whether it has been acting illegally. there is an appearance of impropriety. we absolutely need someone from the outside -- and there are great people outside. judge stephen larson here in los angeles, veteran prosecutor, former federal judge, a guy who has taken on the federal government as a criminal defense lawyer, i think, for example, he would be a great person who is not in washington, who is not in the bubble, who will come in with experience, and let's let the chips fall where they made. spoon the ag did tell me today, told us last fall, he had a senior prosecutor looking at these things. if he goes with the special counsel, who knows. but it's good to see you both. come see us in d.c. soon. all right, shocking video and outrage.

an illegal wanted by i.c.e. is actually on the run or could be because local authorities don't want to cooperate with the feds who are seeking to get their hands on him. more on that case coming up.

>> shannon: an illegal immigrant accused of a deadly and fiery hit-and-run that you see here could go free until his next court date if he is able to post $25,000 in bond. that is because the sheriff's office said it is not going to honor her request for a detainer from immigration and customs enforcement. let's bring in don rosenberg to talk about this. he lost his son drew at the hands of an illegal immigrant and he is also the advocates for victims of illegal alien crimes. thank you for being here. what do you make of this case in denver, essentially they say, if you want him, if got to get a warrant, but apparently i.c.e. said, would have to get 30,000 to 40,000 warrants at a time. it shouldn't break that way. you should give us access. >> it is unreasonable for them to ask i.c.e. to do that, but there is an easier solution, because there was a program that was started maybe ten years ago called the 287g program, i.c.e. will put a i.c.e. program in the jail. so when this guy it makes bond,

and you never know when that is going to happen, he is there. he doesn't need a detainer, he doesn't need a warrant. as soon as the guy makes bond, he is there, in detention, he is handed over to i.c.e. he can't have any weapons, he is in the jail. so the program already exists. that is what they should do. the problem is, the denver sheriff won't let i.c.e. put somebody in the jail. >> shannon: that is a definite catch-22. by the way, you had a question before we went and spoke to the attorney general that he wanted us to ask about cracking down on some of these local and state officials who are harboring people who are here illegally. i ask your question to him, and here is what he said. >> a lot of times people just want a quick solution to this problem. we just have some prosecution and it's going to go away. people have got to rise up in their communities. you've got to elect people who are willing to enforce the law and not elect people that do everything they can to undermine

the law. >> shannon: he didn't rule it out. he didn't commit to it but he said it is about making sure that you elect the people that are going to make the decisions that you agree with. what are the odds here in california that someone like oakland mayor libby schaaf who says, i'm going to protect these people and warn them about i.c.e. rates, that should be voted out? >> less than 0%. the more people that come in here, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. if i do this and more people come, the more people that would vote for me. it would have to be something terrible to happen, somebody would have to -- you know, a famous person be killed or something. it's not going to happen. >> shannon: i was going to say, we have terrible things happen like the death of your son, drew. kate steinle captured national headlines. there are real cases all over the place that don't seem to change policy for a lot of folks. >> we are viewed as collateral

damage. you hear all the time when you are reading the newspaper, the headline, immigrants commit less crime and spending it aboard. we are not tech but immigrants, talking about illegal aliens. it's not true. illegal aliens commit more crimes than the native born, and their 52,000 and california jails, on average, they each committed and were convicted of eight crimes. that is 400,000. it really doesn't matter how many crimes, there shouldn't be any. >> shannon: that's true. there are real-life families and people like you impacted every day by this, and i know it is your mission not to make your life, your son's life and his death really matter. so thank you for coming to discuss the topic with us today. i'm glad we got your question to the ag. >> thank you so much. i appreciate that. >> shannon: more news next.

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>> shannon: a big thank you to all of our amazing folks here in our l.a. bureau and to the good people of california as well. look forward to join you from washington tomorrow night. in the meantime, most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from los angeles. i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." american men are in crisis. they are a failing school, dying from drugs, they're abandoning the workforce, theyey are killing themselves and horrifying numbers. everyone who is paying attention knows this, ask themselves howll are the men you know doing? somehow no one ever says it out loud and publicly pretense that men are doing too well, that they have too much power. the actual numbers, the real data tell a very different story. our series every wednesday this month focusing on men and kicks off tonight. we'll start with a conversation with jordan peterson who's been thinking a lot about how men can recover.