>> hope you enjoyed the show, it's the best we could do. set your dvr at 6:00 a.m. every morning in case you can't watch us live and run to the radio show right now. thanks everyone. >> sandra: disturbing new video of an alleged gang member attacking the police shootings and crime skyrocket across new york city. over the weekend policing shootings went up 6% from the same time last year. good morning everyone, i'm sandra smith. good morning, jon. >> jon: good morning, good to be with you. i'm john roberts. new york suffering a deadly weekend of violence. a 1-year-old boy killed and at

least 35 entered into doesn't separate shootings. meanwhile a shocking scene during an arrest in the bronx, an officer puts a suspect in a headlock drawing cheers from the crowd. >> hello sandra and john, good morning to you. at least 35 people shot this friday here in new york city over the weekend including the youngest victim yet across the city, a a 1-year-old boy shot and killed. a police say the baby was with his family enjoying a summer night out when shots rang out, three adults were injured and the baby, shot in the stomach, died at the hospital. also the surveillance video shows more violence over the weekend. now the mayor's office has recently touted that crime in the city is actually lower than it has been under any other mayor but look at this. 35 victims and a 28 shootings

between friday and sunday, according to "the new york post" that includes two boys 12 and 15 which means shootings are up 1200% from the same period last year. this despite the start of a mere bill de blasio's take back the block initiative of increasing police presence in specific areas. there are also more attacks, camera like this disturbing video showing crowd cheering as a man puts an nypd officer in a headlight. headlock. the officer was trying to arrest another man for trying to move an illegally parked vehicle. also, take a look at the cell phone video which shows in their office or hit in the face with an egg on sunday as clashes broke out between pro-police demonstrators and black lives matter demonstrators in brookl brooklyn. anti-protesters set an american flag and a blue lives matter

shirt on fire. at this time, retirement at the nypd are through the roof. they just canceled 1100 recruits in the mirror is scheduled to hold his daily briefing in less than an hour. >> sandra: aisha hosteling on the ground here for us. just ahead the president of the nypd sergeants benevolence association will be joining us with brand-new reaction. >> john: looking forward to that. meanwhile, breaking news on the west coast, a naval ship burning in california at its home port in san diego after a big explosion. at least 21 people were hurt including 17 sailors. firefighters working to get the flames under control. >> the fire was initially engaged by ship's company and at naval base san diego activated their emergency operations center to alert level three. all personnel were evacuated off

of the ship earlier today and there was no ordinance on board which was our initial concern to make sure there was safety in and around of this ship. >> you can see those water dropping helicopters that have been added since last night at 10:30. amphibious assault, and that's during a full contingent of marines, tanks, helicopters and jets. in an explosion.

and there was video taken last year by the navy it can be blocked by cables or pallets. they don't know why i meant the source of the fire is. they ask a ship of steel, what's burning? while it's like an apartment building for a thousand or 2,000 people. you have feds beds, office furniture, plastics and chemicals and many, many layers

of oil-based paint which can burn for a long time. again, the navy said they are not releasing a cause. they suspect because it was in for maintenance it could be a grinder, and chemicals that started about five elevators down from five flights down from the deck if you will. it's difficult for the firefighters to get through. the navy said that that explosion could have been a back draft. of those gases could not have been ventilated at this point they hope to save the ship, but if so it's going to be in for repairs for a long time.

the bun home rayshard is good man richard in french and it was named after ben franklin. >> john: and they are saying it may take days to put that out as well. thanks so much william. >> it's important for people to also know that it's a threat to our national security, the whole impeachment process was about our national security. why we are at the supreme court, we are on the supreme court in these cases but we find out about the russian connection and continue to suffer pursue that. >> sandra: that was nancy pelosi sounding off over the weekend on president trump's decision to commit the prison sentence of a longtime friend and ally roger stone. the move coming just days before he was to turn himself in and begin serving 40 months. stone was convicted of seven counts of obstruction, witness tampering and making false statements to congress. the president strongly defending

his decision. bribing york, chief political correspondent with fox news contributor. so you've got nancy pelosi calling this staggering corruption, saying at the national security threat. then it robert mueller himself in this new piece saying that the conviction was rightly so. the trump campaign are firing back with this. listen. >> with robert mueller coming out with this op-ed it just further shows proof for anyone reasonable and objective watching that this is a political target that was designed to target president trump's allies for process crimes and due process. that was just absolutely absurd. >> sandra: so why did robert mueller feel compelled to come out and vigorously defend his decision to convict roger stone? >> first of all as far as stones conviction is concerned, it stands. the president didn't overturn or

pardon, he commuted his sentence so it does still stand. there are people calling this unprecedented, saying this was an unprecedented effect and in the past presidents have commuted sentences or pardon the administration that they have felt had been targeted by unfair investigations. president george w. bush commuted the sentence of scooter libby who had been convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the cia leak affair. george h.w. bush pardon five people who had been convicted were pled guilty in the iran-contra affair. and with bill clinton he pardoned people who were involved in white water, especially susan mcdougall, his old business partner who had been convicted of corruption and, after that conviction, the independent counsel kenneth starr suggested that she could get a lighter sentence if she

testified against bill clinton. she went to jail rather than testify against bill clinton. she serves 18 months for contempt of court for refusing to testify truthfully. and they made a documentary about her and he appeared at the premiere and called her an american hero for refusing to testify against him. so this is simply not unprecedented. >> sandra: you mentioned about romney calling it unprecedented and here is the tweet. he called at historic corrupti corruption, convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president. he is being criticized for this move up on both sides of the aisle. >> the president has the right

to take the action he took but that doesn't mean he should have. as a guy convicted of several felonies the month before the election but for the president to take this action it will certainly hurt politically. >> it seems like about everything these days is hurting the president politically. it certainly could. the issue is, right now, should people act like this is some sort of unprecedented completely novel violation of the rule of law and the fact is, presidents have usually felt that the investigations that targeted them and their administrations were unfair. and they use the pardon power of or the commutation power to undo some of that. if you read president trump statement about roger stone, yes. he says roger stone could suffer physically from being in jail at his age but most of the statement is a condemnation of

the mueller investigation saying it was based on an unfounded premise of alleged collusion between the trump campaign and russia. if it hadn't been for that roger stone would have never had to testify. it was a statement of trump's belief that it's an unfair investigation just like bill clinton believed that what whitewater was an unfair investigation just like george w. bush george w. bush believed that iran-contra contra was an unfair investigation. >> sandra: "the wall street journal" did the same thing. of pardons and presidents. the editorial board writes trumps clemency has nothing to do, and that's precisely what mr. clinton did in pardoning marc rich in 2001. does anyone recall that barack obama commuted the sentence of unrepentant puerto rican terrorists and of chelsey manning whose leaks jeopardized american troops?

so "the wall street journal" coming to his defense this morning. finally byron, let's circle back to our top story this morning at what we are seeing happening here in new york city with escalating violence and now that new video of a member of the nypd in a choke hold as cheers roared on from the crowds around. you have the police now confirming a 600% spike in shootings in note one 24-hour period compared to the same day last year, and now worded that police are retiring in droves. byron, your thoughts this morning as we look at this vid video? >> it's a terrible scene and it has a number of causes. one of the most direct cause as is the city let 2,500 criminals out of rikers island because of coronavirus concerns. we know that a significant portion of them have gone on to commit more crimes. we also know that the city seems to be deemphasizing

law enforcement in some areas. cyrus vance, manhattan district attorney who spent a lot of his time trying to get president trump's tax returns has decided not to prosecute a lot of low-level offenses. generally in the black lives matter protests there seems to be serious, serious culture of antipolice and police not only in new york but everywhere have gotten that message and are perhaps not working as stringently as they did before. >> sandra: that's really something to see, that video that came in there. great to see. thank you. >> john: another alert to come up florida reporting more than 15 new a thousand cases of covid-19 yesterday which is a single new record for any state. health officials keeping their options open for slowing the

spread of the virus. >> everything should be on the table and what we model are the most important interactions are closing bars. if you are in a red state, read meaning you have a lot of transmission, closing bar is as important thing. limiting the capacity of restaurants is an important thing and these are two majors that really do need it to be done. they really do need to be done. mask wearing in public, in order for us to reverse this problem, we need about 90% of people in those really hot areas to wear a mask when they are in public. >> john: if there is some good news in the coronavirus fight, new york city reporting zero covid-19 deaths yesterday and that's the first time that has happened since march. >> sandra: more than 100 of the country's top business leaders telling president trump to believe that daca alone. but with the president change course on dreamers? and what is behind the surge in

gun violence in new york city? alexandria ocasio-cortez's answer to that question, raising some eyebrows. mike huckabee will be here to wait in the coming next. >> we think this has to do with the fact of their record unemployment in the united states right now? the fact that people are at a level of economic desperationta that we have not seen since the great recession? know what? i'm gonna switch now. just need my desk... my chair... and my phone. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ subut when we realized she wasn hebattling sensitive skin, we switched to new tide plus downy free. it's gentle on her skin, and dermatologist recommended. new tide pods plus downy free.

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>> john: at the big news out of the nfl, the washington redskins announcing they will retire the team name. this just ten days after they announced a review of the team amid outcry that redskins has racist connotations. several sponsors had also called on the team to change the name. no word yet on what the washington football team will now be called we are certainly watching. >> sandra: actress kelly preston has died after a two year battle with breast cancer. she starred in movies such as jerry mcguire and twins. her husband john travolta confirmed the news on instagram with the caption, kelly's love will always be remembered. more on this wit carley shimkus

coming up later this hour. >> john: congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez suggesting that the recent surge in new york city crime is linked to unemployment. she says some residents need to "shoplift some bread in order to lead their children. let's bring in governor mike huckabee. good to see it this morning. >> when she says it routes shoplifting bread, i didn't realize that tiffany's and gucci under louis vuitton are selling bread now. a lot of people are breaking into those doors and taking purses and high-end items. i guess they went out home and ate them. as soon as you think she can't say anything more ridiculous, she goes out and says something more like this. it's an insult to what is truly happening in new york. >> john: she made these comments in a virtual town hall last week, excerpts of which were released over the weekend. let's look at this particular

excerpt. >> maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to pay their rent and so they go out and they need to feed their child and they don't have money so you maybe have two -- we either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry that night. >> john: so she suggesting that the uptick in crime is linked to unemployment. four people including a 1-year-old baby were shot. the baby was shot in the stomach and it died, other three people who shot mike or scott are recovering. does that sound like shoplifting? >> is a big difference between shoplifting and cold-blooded murder and for her not to know the difference is frankly astonishing. her saying, people are hungry so they are going out and lifting bread. no, they are going out and killing people randomly. you don't kill a 1-year-old because you need bread, and that's why the absurdity of her

remarks have to be called out. she needs to be held accountable for this and she needs to walk it back and recognize that violent crime has nothing to do with people's lifting some bread. if she's really interested in it, why did she kill thousands of jobs that could have helped people in her community when amazon wanted to, or why didn't she open a soup kitchen? there's a lot of things that could be done to help people who legitimately have ethical needs and food needs. but violent crime ain't one of them. >> john: 15 shootings in 15 hours over the weekend which follows a july 4th weekend in which there were 44 people shot. eight of them were killed, 600% increase in the number of shootings in new york city. it used to be one of the safest big cities in the world. a lot of people are wondering, where is this all headed and what culpability, if any, does the mayor of the city bill de blasio have. >> he has a lot of culpability because he's been one of those

voices to defund of the police. his own wife says we got to get rid of the police force completely. aoc has been talking about defunding the police and cutting their budget and she even griped that a billion dollars from their budget wasn't enough. so the very people who want to get rid of the folks who want to stand between anarchy and a law and order and peace and serenity in a community are just remarkable, that they don't even see the hypocrisy and idiocy of their own comments. one thing i point out, you ask where it ends, it ends with a lot of u-haul's loading up in new york and getting the heck out of there while they are still alive and it will be left to the few people who are either can't get out more like a city that doesn't have any cops, that is a wild, wild west where you can go and break a window and take whatever you want. but it leaves the major parts of the city boarded up and abandoned and a whole lot of people's lives around forever and ever. >> john: another big issue in

the news is the deferred action for childhood arrivals weekend. over the weekend executives for 100 companies including google, ibm, microsoft and starbucks sending a letter to president trump urging him to leave daca alone saying, daca recipients have been critical members of our workforce. this is no time to jeopardize the health and safety of these vulnerable individuals. your response? >> they are pulling on the wrong leg. the president was the one who laid its b-17 on the table for democrats to act. i remind people that barack obama said 11 times publicly that he couldn't do daca by executive order. then he turned around and did it anyway but he knew it was unconstitutional. the president is for daca. he is willing and has tried diligently to get the democrats to legislate this which is where it should from, and they refused

because they don't care about these kids. they pretend they do but if they did they would sit down and work this out. they would take yes for an answer from the president who would put it on the table but they don't want that. they want an election year and these corporate executives or blaming the president, they need to go back and read a few newspapers and understand it, if they want to lobby somebody, give a call to chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and tell them to get off of their hands and sit down at the white house with the president. this could be done in 48 hours if it they wanted it to be done but they don't. in any daca kid who thinks the democrats care about them need to wake up and smell the skunk at the gardens party because this one ain't going to fly. to be one of the president and then interview with telemundo on friday said with the merit-based order which would include a path to citizenship. thanks for joining us, happy

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>> sandra: fox news alert, lindsey graham weighing in on's former special counsel robert mueller's op-ed this weekend condemning president trump's decision to commute the sentence. he has said in a statement that he is willing and also capable of defending the mueller investigation in an op-ed in "the washington post." that request will be granted. arizona republican congressman andy biggs sits on the house judiciary committee and as

chairman of the house freedom caucus. good morning congressman. do you support the call to have robert mueller come in and >> sandra, i don't know how much more they will get from mr. mueller except for this. since he testified weakly, a couple things have happened. the most prominent of which is ric grenell really such transcripts that show that all these folks, clapper and brennan et cetera, they knew there was no collusion and they testified under oath privately, and then publicly they tried to causes insurrection. it may be very instructive and illuminating but he won't be very good if he's anything like it was a year ago. >> sandra: he has said time and time again that his investigation was only based on the law. defending that investigation, it reads "every decision in this

case is based solely on the fact and the law in accordance with the will of law. the women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity. claims to the contrary are false and even lindsey graham as he getting pushed back within your own party for chrome to make this happen. so what is the biggest risk to you politically if robert mueller was to agree to testify? >> the biggest risk that i would see is that he comes in and gives an incredible performance but it's just not going to happen because mr. miller himself said yesterday and not op-ed, there was no collusion in the trump campaign and he said that under oath a year ago. so what he's basically saying, and he has to do this. yes to come out and defend his investigation but he didn't know who joseph ms. spy was, didn't understand the steele dossier and didn't know who he was.

so the only risk is that you dredge this whole thing back up just a couple months before the election and that's the biggest risk. the reality is mr. mueller will have a very tough time convincing the public that his prosecution investigations were not politically driven we have the transcript same, they knew. and he admits, they knew there was no collusion early on. >> sandra: hears brand-new reaction from kayleigh mcenany, the press secretary. >> what did robert mueller have to do to justify his investigation and waste of taxpayer dollars in waste of americas time? he had to come up with process crimes which was exactly what was done in the case of roger stone. >> sandra: so the white house firing right back at the op-ed this morning with reaction but to robert mueller, why do you think he felt so compelled to vigorously defend his actions in an op-ed over the weekend? >> will of course i'm

speculating that i think his motivation is this. his investigation has been thoroughly discredited and debunked. and i think at some point he feels like he has got to defend it and this was a place to hang his hat. but this roger stone thing, think about this. we know this was politically driven. all you have to do is take a look at the s.w.a.t. team coming in to get a guy that you are arresting for process crimes and, cnn being live on the spot, you don't see that kind of thing happen anywhere else. of roger stone have an attorney and normally you would say, call the attorney and say can you have your client come in and surrender tomorrow, we are going to make an arrest. >> sandra: there is still the debate over that, and democrats would push back on that including adam schiff. >> there are things that we can do to discourage the abuse of the pardon power, the commutation power. the bill months ago for example that would say if the president pardoned someone in a case in

which they are a witness subject or target, the files in that case would be provided to congress. the congress can evaluate whether or not this is another app that mike active of justice. >> sandra: so you have nancy pelosi calling this staggering corruption. so how do you expect democrats and the other party to proceed based on all of this? >> they are going to try to ratchet this up because this is one of the things, they don't have any policy proposals that they are really going to work so they are going to attack the president. let's say, if you look at adam schiff's bill, this wouldn't have even applied. you are talking about a president who has been very careful and issued ten commutations, president obama issued over a thousand commutation so it's really different. their legislation is not really going to go anywhere either and they know that, they are just trying to ratchet this up.

>> sandra: people also know that it's a threat. but we will continue to follow all of that. great to see you this morning. >> we have a very targeted approach to make sure we are getting the resources to the people that needed the most so that again, we don't see the fatality that we saw in march and april which tony fauci, dr. redfield and myself, no one on the task force wants to see that and we don't think we are going to see that because we are better prepared to respond. >> john: u.s. surgeon general jerome adams on the nation's coronavirus responses florida shatters the daily number of new cases in any state. hospitalizations in texas now rising to record levels. jonathan serrie is live in atlanta with more. >> good morning to you. florida set that record with 15,000 new cases on sunday and the median age is a relatively

low 38. governor ron desantis has cases that are partially due to widespread testing. >> that is one for every nine people in the state of florida. >> texas set a new record with 1,410. methodist hospital cared for and that's a so called covid party, an event where people knowingly expose themselves to infected person. >> just before the patient died they looked at their nurse and they said it, i think i made a mistake. i thought this was a hoax but it's not. >> john: this illustrates of frustrating circumstances that the public and health officials are up against, so many rumors and so much misinformation surrounding covid-19. many people don't realize it's a serious threat until day or a

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>> john: a backlash from rank and file police officers in new york city after disturbing video shows an alleged gang member grabbing an nypd officer and putting him in a headlock. this comes among continued calls to defund the police and the city's on tactics. ed mullins joins us this morning. your reaction to that incident that we just saw, that

disturbing video of a fellow putting an officer in a headlock, but the officer was trying to make an arrest. your reaction to that? >> it's disgusting. the headlock is a very same law that mayor de blasio is trying to implement where if the police officer did that, he would be arrested. you could see the danger of putting a uniformed police officer in a headlock like that. the public needs to think if they will do that to a uniformed police officer who was out on the street, what will they do to you? walking about the streets, walking into your home or running a business? crime is running rampant in the city, we just lost a 1-year-old child last night and this is a direct result of the policies that have been implemented by mayor de blasio, corey johnson and governor cuomo and it's time that this city holds those politicians accountable. they are tying the hands of the

police officers. they do not want us to be out there making these arrests, contrary to what they are telling everyone and they should be held accountable but nothing is being done. they are telling the public nothing but lies. >> john: on that point it should be pointed out that the officer in that incident suffered abrasions and lacerations to his face, yet when the suspect surrendered himself to police a couple nights later he was told to go home, pending further investigation. this sort of thing used to be called assault on a police officer. >> that's correct. they do not prosecute based on the laws. i'd like to know black lives

matter, a 1-year-old child died last night where the d.a.'s not screaming about this? we reduced homicides in this city and no one talks about that. it's a diverse department, 53% diverse, and what's going on in the city is wrong and needs to stop. >> john: patrick lynch said the city needs to speak up to the fact that we have surrendered the city to chaos. somehow his attacker was allowed to go free. we expect them to review the case and bring real charges carrying real penalties forth with and if this doesn't happen we should run up the white flag and admit the criminals are in charge. we seen a dramatic uptick in violent crimes, which was at onn

america. where is it headed? >> is 100% correct in what he was saying. if that officer's gun was taken and he was killed that they would all be attending funerals and hospitals and show them grief. we don't want you there, we want you to stay away, and stop blaming the nypd that for everything that occurs. the nypd has been doing this job for years and it's not a racist police department. we've been labeled as such and it's up to these leaders to get in front and send a message back the other way, or the criminals to continue to do what we are doing in the city and we will victimize more people in the difference between that is us. we stand between the victim and the criminal that is ready to make them of victim of violent crimes. they need to stop and follow accountability.

>> john: ed mullins of the police benevolence organization. >> sandra: education secretary betsy devos says schools need to reopen it in the fall. >> there is no data to suggest that kids being in school is in is anyway dangerous. countries across the nation have reopened schools and done so successfully and safely. >> john>> sandra: the debate ovw and when to return to the classroom heats up. plus hollywood morning the actress of kelly preston. new reaction with carley shimk carley shimkus, next. ♪

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>> sandra: actress kelly preston has died after a two year battle with breast cancer.

her career involved roles in that "jerry maguire," and twins, and for the love of the game. joining us now is carley shimkus. if everyone is remembering kelly preston this morning. >> that's right, she died yesterday morning at 857 and she chose to keep her battle with breast cancer private. so if you are surprised to learn about her passing you are not alone. she wasn't born in honolulu, hawaii, in 1962 then she went on to study acting at the university of southern california and starting several major roles. her last movie was in 2018, so it does correspond with the length of her battle with cancer. we all learned at the very same time about eight hours ago that she did pass away from breast cancer when her husband john travolta posted an emotional tribute to her on

instagram saying, kelly's love and life will always be remembered. >> sandra: he did remember her in this instagram post. she fought a courageous fight with the love and support of so many. john travolta writes, kelly's love and life will always be remembered. i will be taking some time to be there for my children who have lost their mother so forgive me in advance if you don't hear from us for a while. please know that i will feel your love in the weeks and months ahead as we heal. she leaves behind a lack a daughter 20 years 20 years old anand a son, benjamin, nine yeas old. and we all remember when she and john lost their son, jett, in 2009. >> that's right, he was 16-year-old and he died after suffering a seizure on a christmas vacation. so this family has seen tragedy before. in a world where hollywood marriages don't last very long, there's certainly dead. they got married in 1991 which is a lifetime to hollywood

standards and their daughter ella post of this beautiful tribute to her mom. i noticed that both rita wilson at russell crowe in their comments about her, they both mentioned her sparkly eyes. so everybody is sending their love and support to john travolta and his family this morning. >> sandra: their wedding ceremony was a midnight ceremony in paris. >> very romantic. it's been such a surprise in such a shame. a reliably red state could be turning into a battleground. how could a brand-new pole state that race? mercedes schlappou joins the shw coming up c next. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ new microban 24 watch as microban 24 kills 99.9% of bacteria... and then, even after multiple touches, keeps killing bacteria for 24 hours.

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>> sandra: fox news alert from portland, oregon, and will come to a brand-new hour of america's newsroom. >> john: it's great to be with you today. meanwhile, "the seattle times" reported that anticapitalists and antifascist teams have been using social media to promote pep rallies and egg on protesters. jonathan hunt is live in our west coast bureau.

40 days and 40 nights, poland has been gripped by protests that are frequently turned violent with both protesters and police blaming each other for that violence. on saturday night, a 2 26 year d protester was apparently hit in the head by some sort of impact munition meeting of beanbag ram, rubber bullet or, at serious condition in a local hospital. there's a violent protests in the moments before he was hit. and the department of homeland security has sent officers to help protect buildings like the federal courthouse.

we have a commercial style fireworks, molotov cocktails into the courthouse. his members say they are anticapitalist and antifascist. last night by twitter, the mere appeal to all sides to come together. "to move our city forward in peace so that we can begin the necessary work of rebuilding, reforming and protecting our community from a global pandemic and dismantling systemic racism.

we must and this nightly violence in portland, lives are at stake. but with the police force that feels under siege and a protest movement that feels they are utterly justified in facing down those police officers, he seems like a distant prospect. what's going on in portland certainly is not seeing anyone else in the state, at least not work when i was there last week. jonathan hunt, thank you. >> i'm not concerned about texas and i look at that cbs poll, i think i really struggle with some of the mechanics behind these poles. and earlier this morning discussing new polling on the presidential race suggesting

texas can be a swing state in november. we have a very sophisticated ground game they are in the great state. you know, you have to look at this one pole. they ended up not even pulling from the voter files so we don't use those likely voters. they go six points to favorable for democrats, six points to week four republicans. what we are seeing in the internal poles as the president is very strong in texas. that shows joe biden having a

one-point advantage. that's a real clear politics advantage. what do you do to make sure that president trump can secure that state? >> if we would have gone with the poles that we had seen in 2016 we would have thought that hillary clinton would have been president. we are making investments in all of the states, and you take the zaxby's pole in general, you see the president has cut biden's lead in half and the president makes strides with black americans. now forcing biden to have to advertise to black americans, which of course makes no sense because democrats have never had to do that in the past.

they are also expanding the states, a lot of the unease has been up over the president's handling of coronavirus. we saw some of the re-openings have to be rolled back and they are still seeing an uptick in cases. is there any concern at the campaign over the president's handling of data and perhaps do you plan to change your messaging at all when it comes to coronavirus? >> look. the president has been a leader when it comes to combating coronavirus and he has provided and made the necessary investments in these different states to ensure they have the resources that they need, that they have the equipment that they need and the ventilators that they need in order to deal

with the pandemic. this is about working with the governor's day in and day out as the president at the administration has done and obviously working together to not only ensure the safety and the health of the american people but also ensuring that we are safely able to reopen the economy. the president has taken aggressive and bold acts and remember it's joe biden who believed they were xenophobic. it was joe biden who said they should invoke the defense production act. well, that's exactly with the president did. the president took early action to help combat coronavirus and helped flatten the curve. obviously there is a need in the states to ensure they do reopen the economy safely and they want to keep people healthy. >> sandra: this is emerging as a major issue and a major area

of debate. here is betsy devos talking to our own chris wallace. listen. >> is nothing in the data that suggest that kids being in school is in any way dangerous. we know that children contract and have the fire is at far lower incidences than any other part of the population and we know that other countries around the world have reopened their schools and have done so successfully and safely. >> sandra: mercedes, as parents we just want a real and honest discussion over the schools reopening. of course we want to do it safely but there is concern over the administration's handling of the virus and our ability to follow the cdc guidelines. the president is saying >> i'm

the mother of five kids, you know this. i want to keep my kid at home. but there will be those parents if they can do it in a way where they are taking precautionary measures, for example ensuring that there is mass or doing temperature checks every day, that should definitely be an option. that has caused an enormous amount of stress and i will tell you even in my home with the children not going to school and being able to do this in a safe and responsible manner is the way to go. i think the president has taken bold action on this and has said said, let's reopen the schools and let's do this in a safe and responsible manner and ensure that the children can go back to help provide support for many parents who really technically

can't even teach their kids at home. we seen a lot of the failure come from the distance learning especially in areas like fairfax county who couldn't even get their system up and running for weeks, having children just say there, creating an enormous amount of stress on the parents and the students. >> sandra: we all are hoping for the best and good communication as well. meanwhile, the republican national convention. is it happening? is it happening in person and is it happening in jacksonville? >> the vice president was just in jacksonville this past weekend, we have a great working relationship with the governor and to them they are jacksonville. our goal obviously is to ensure that the president is able to reach as many americans across the country. so we are still a month and a half away and we will make adjustments accordingly. our goal and our priority is the safety and health of those would be attending the convention and we are going to be looking

forward to talking about the president's great record, nominating this president and talking about joe biden's weakness and how he is more focused on being a globalist than he is putting america first. >> sandra: we are still moving forward with jacksonville, and we know there has already been a venue change but we are still seeing coronavirus spiking in the state of florida. you've obviously got record numbers of coronavirus cases being reported there but there is a report this morning and abc news privately, there are concerns mounting and plans are being drawn up to further scale back the event and even shaft to entirely virtual. is that being considered? >> we are talking about state and local officials and seeing what we can get done there in jacksonville. the priority again being the safety and we still have a month and a half to go.

we will still be making those adjustments accordingly. the team trump online we are so dominant in the virtual space as well that we are able to reach over in our stores that we do every night, with president trump giving any sort of speech it will reach millions. >> sandra: what does this mean for the president's rallies. if you look at what's happening, precautions are being made and then you see people hesitant to go back out in public, especially in places we can't social distance. so what does this mean for the president's rallies the last couple of months? >> what we have been focused on, we had to postpone a rally in new hampshire due to a tropical storm fay that was coming into the area. we will do it in an open-air type of setting. i want to give that option, we always take precautionary measures.

for example ensuring that we have mast available and hence sanitizer there as well, and really it's up to them to come and join us. but what we have seen in the rally is the fact that the president is able to connect to the american people. i think he very much connected with the fact that we are here to save america and preserve our culture as well, as well ask doan the violence we have seen, and obviously he has very much united himself to bernie sanders and we need to respond to the far left. he might be the face of the democrat party but joe biden is not the heart of the democrat party. they have gone what way too far left. he will make sure that he brings them along with him. they are just way too far to the

left that any mainstream american can see. >> we will continue. hemercedes schlapp, we appreciae your time. >> fox news alert, under u.s. judge issuing an injunction that once again puts a federal execution of daniel lewis lee on hold. the convicted killer has been scheduled to put to death this afternoon in indiana, and it would have been the first federal execution in 17 years. matt finn is live in terre haute, indiana, where the situation seems change by the hour. >> inmate daniel lewis lee was scheduled to be put to death via lethal injection in this federal prison behind me. as you just read with the breaking news his execution is now on hold once again. 47-year-old lee is convicted of murdering a husband and a wife

and her 8-year-old daughter in 1996. the family of those murder victims has been pleading relating not to be executed. most recent, lee was scheduled to be put to death back in december. now today the family of the murder victim has been arguing for another delay. and that includes the families 81-year-old grandmother. >> to do this right now, it feels like a slap in the face to our family. does my grandma's life matter at all? and i just don't know that it does to anyone. because no one seems to listen. >> that woman is a relative of one of the murder victims. as it turns out the family will not have to travel today. attorney general bill barr announced last year, set to be put to death under the trump

administration's return to capital punishment. no capital punishment today, the execution is on hold and we are also aware of an anti-death penalty rally today. >> john: it was a circuit court of appeals overturned of this day and now the injunction has been put in place. will this go back to the supreme court? >> is my understanding the family wasn't coming to the supreme court, the execution was scheduled for or p.m. eastern time. >> sandra: thousands of prisoners in california could soon be set free because of the coronavirus pandemic. >> the more you keep the people in the burning house, the more that will get critically ill and the more they will use hospital facilities in the community so that affects everyone. >> sandra: but will that move put others at risk, our panel is here to debate that.

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and it, give beijing a bigger foothold in the region. it's good to see you today. the u.s. has been trying for years, and it really would seem that it would undercut u.s. efforts to isolate iran. >> to appoint, and those pressures are on tyree an end they are actually very effecti effective. you go to someone who has cash, and china has interests. and they are going to be pressuring them, and they know they are or may be sanctions. so it's china telling us, i can do business with iran.

this will obviously affect our measures, and china does business with them, and, will the u.s. seek to sanction more chinese entities? the companies that are going to be the oil insurance companies, obviously productions in china and it's not going to really change the policy of the united states with regard to china but it will offer a choice with those who are doing business. china has a lot of on the surface it appears to be very

harmful to our strategy. and we need to have a different strategy. president xi's seems to prove that he cares obviously about china's best interests over his relationship with the united states. with this agreement, it damaged it even further. we need to have accounting for this. if you want to come out me with more sanctions, look. again china would love to be in

a trade relation with us but they made a mistake at the beginning of the year. >> john: china is responding to the sanctions in place already and the ones who were put in place recently, banning the entry to china of senators marco rubio, ted cruz, congressman chris smith and sam brownback. because of the u.s. response to china's treatment of the uighurs and other muslim minorities, they have been banned. >> that is highly symbolical. they call that the policy so they are putting the symbolic sanctions on them. at the end of the day we will be putting sanctions on those who are doing business between china and iran and that is where the results are going to be appearing successful or not. >> john: as all of this or no

not, and that would be detained without access to u.s. consulate services or other information about the alleged crime, security personnel may detain or deport u.s. citizens were sending private electronic citizens critical of the chinese government. china is accusing the united states of stoking "china fear" with warnings like this. >> china will do as much as i can but they have some limitations. in dozens and dozens of countries, they have good relations to the u.s. and would not want to sever their relationship with the u.s. they said them on the one hand, and on the other hand it's business and cash with many countries around the world. >> john: lead affairs, always good to see you. thank you so much. >> sandra: standby for this touching story. firefighters in maryland going the extra mile to help reunite a

woman with her 83-year-old mother on the second floor of a nursing home. crews agreeing to give her a lift with her latter so she could finally tell her mother what she has been wanting to for the last four months, that she loved her. the woman says her mom struggles with face time and as zuma so the two have been staying in touch through the pandemic by texting. now that was a very nice gesture by the fire department. it's amazing how creative everyone has gotten through this. >> john: who needs it zoom more face time when you have latter 43? >> sandra: such a great story. so many of us have been using zoom but for those of us who may be technically challenged, it's hard. >> sandra, i have always admired you and respected you and it's wonderful to be sitting not necessarily on the same set with you but at least in the same

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let's bring in our panel. david, do you first. >> states have their budgets fall out of the bottom you will see more states do this. you see illinois has adopted similar policies in virginia and new york, and it becomes a big issue for states. in a state like kansas 30% of prison guards were turning over every year because of low morale, low salaries. this only will make all of that worse. and that security continues taking up as a concern for voters and they will be asked this question, what are you going to do to makes community safer? >> 8,000 prisoners, to be sure these prisoners were at their

set to be released early or they are at high risk of contracting the virus. >> absolutely. this comes down to a humanitarian effort because this wasn't not just those on the left are family members of the prisoners crying out for some type of help. and it mostly left in their incarceration. in addition to that what people forget is, when someone has an underlying health condition or they are elderly, over 60 years of age, when they are in prison, and they end up being very ill, they also go to the icu. and that includes those who live

behind bars. >> does that put their communities at risk i will play the sound first and get your thoughts. >> does a uptick in crime that's happening right now is with the $6 billion new york city police department budget. it may be due to the fact that people are not paying their rent, so if they go out and need to feed their child and don't have money, they are put in a position where they feel like they either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry. >> leslie is that okay by you to make the case that the uptick in violence that we are seeing here is tied to those who need bread? >> clearly it's not just that.

there are also people who take advantage. and they've seen that with those who choose the loot rather than to peacefully protest, and there are many factors that weigh into this. and that doesn't lead to more crime statistically. they have been linked to these crimes. i don't buy aoc but it does weigh in what they are saying and it, we look at the upticks in shootings and violence as a whole in new york city, this

past weekend they were up 600%. >> every time a member of the squad opens her mouth a swing state democrat goes all oh, my gosh, they are talking again. americans want to make sure they are economic in their personal security is taken care of. and that was ultimately about getting rid of corrupt bad cops and turned it into pushing a progressive agenda that ultimately you are going to see as they have seen, and a green new deal is being talked about again. everything that was going to move us forward >> last topic, going out. did you support the boy moveme

movement, the white house visited the president and he prays on him as a leader. he seems to be backfiring a bit now but the ceo refused to apologize. now there are calls for a boycott of goya foods. through the strongest lens of progress progressive. >> i think it's freedom of speech, and that's how they feel about the president, and those who are consumers have the free choice and freedom of speech if you will with the dollar to buy or not to buy or to boycott.

technically sandra most boycotts don't last and don't succeed and the reason for that is we as americans have very short-term memories. and they are largely democrats. >> they will be just fine because they produce tasty food. that line around the corner at chick-fil-a is quite long. good food is bought by consumers. the bigger point here is, at what point does the cancel culture ultimately die out, because everybody is offended by what everyone says. and that's what they are being told they are wrong. no one wants to be part of a culture that says everything you do is offensive and everything you do is wrong? if this continues to be the movement of the cancel culture it will be short-lived and i say bring on the short lived nests.

at >> thanks to both of you. >> what this has to do with president trump and roger stone, coming up. >> i think anyone who cares about the role of law is, they commuted the sentence of someone who willfully lied to congress and covered up for thetg president, intimidated witnesses and talked about the effectiveness of the situation. than my team at newday usa.

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>> john: and senator lindsey graham says he will call robert mueller to testify during the senate judiciary committee. at the russian collusion pope probert wrote an op-ed on saturday defending the prosecution and conviction of roger stone after president trump commuted stone's prison sentence. let's bring an end prior who is a former department of justice

deputy director of public affairs. here is what he wrote in that op-ed. he said we made every decision in stone's case as in all our cases based on solely the facts and law, and in accordance with the rule of law. women and men who conducted these prosecutions acted with the highest integrity and claims to the contrary are false. lindsey graham was thinking of having mueller's deputy coming but she said he's written an op-ed so he can come in himself. >> i don't think it was a purely savvy thing for mueller to do here, because he lit gives lindsey graham the opportunity to call him before the senate judiciary hearing at he's right. we do know so much more about the origins of the russia investigation, we do know so much more about how general flynn, biden's involvement, susan' susan rice's

involvement, this will be a benefit to president trump. and in tears with the press secretary said earlier today on fox. >> the fact that robert mueller had to even write an op-ed is telling the fact that he had to defend his taxpayer wasted investigation on taxpayer dollars, millions and millions wasted, on a russia hoax theory that found no collusion. >> john: the president is saying that it was unfair, the prosecution of roger stone. he was caught up in a tangential issue. who has the higher moral ground, do you think? the white house? on one hand roger stone did lie to investigators in the congre

congress, know yet and we won't know until the durum investigation is finished, but if it was, even if roger stone did lied to congress, did lie to investigators, it's a fruit of a poisonous tree and it's really unfair. >> john: it's likely we won't hear the conclusion until after the election. here is what the chairman of the intelligence committee and the house adam schiff set about it. >> the president said basically if you live for me, if you cover up for me, if you have my back then i will make sure that you get a get out of jail free card. other americans, a different

standard. they get off scott free. >> john: he seems to have forgotten what happened in 2001. >> throughout, there were 39 individuals without going through the part in office. trump gets all kinds of criticism from the parties and there is no requirement that he do so. in the 1800s there was no part in office but pardons were handled by the president and delegated to the attorney general with the secretary of state. so this idea that only trump is the one who does these pardons is incorrect, he just happens to do them not when he is leaving office, the day before his leaving office, because quite frankly he doesn't care about the political ramifications. >> that would seem to run headlong against the constitution. >> absolutely. the supreme court has addressed this in several cases before

that congress has virtually no authority to limit the president's pardon power. article two, congress has nothing there. what will happen is they try to propose the law but even if it did it would get challenged by the administration and would be struck down by the supreme cou supreme court. >> john: we don't know if or when robert mueller will appear before the senate judiciary can be but we will keep you posted. >> sandra: a surge in covid-19 case is forcing some states to the pause button on the opening. so how will that affect the economy? and what about schools reopening in the fall, what it means for people getting back to work. larry kudlow will join us live on that, just ahead.

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>> sandra: fox news alert on ththe florida pandemic, the u.s. setting a record for one day increases and new cases. dr. marc siegel joins us now. dr. siegel, what's happening in florida? >> well sandra, i think the problem in florida is people that are not taking enough precautions. there's too many instances still on beaches and elsewhere of people crowding. the governor is trying to clamp down on that by closing the bars and decreasing the amount of restaurants. the problem is already in the works. one thing is, 15,000 cases, we have seen a decrease in the rate of positivity. in other words on sunday, 11% of new cases tested positive on wednesday, and it was 18%. we want that to be less than

10%. and even if they survive and they do well, they still make it impossible for the hospitals to function normally. because they need to be isolated. >> sandra: we have larry kudlow coming up to advise us on the economy. where do you stand on the recommendations to get kids back into the classrooms in the fall. i'm strongly in favor of it. that's online learning, there is getting more control over the hot spots and decreasing the

number of new cases. the kids that have mental health issues that need to be taken care of. younger kids and very young children they are much less likely to spread covid-19 so we are worried about protecting our teachers and custodial staff much more so than the children, the children tend to have mild cases. >> sandra: what do you think of them, how much you respect him? we've only got about 30 seconds left. >> i was once again impressed with him. i think the problem here is, that's something that's often pushed outside of his lane. his lane is a virologist, about

how to lock down and about phases of reopening, all of that is more left to public health officials like centers for disease control. period >> we appreciate it, thank you. fox news alert, two officers in texas shot and killed in an ambush and police are saying they never had a chance. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick joins us on that straight ahead.

>> sandra: two cops ambush so fast that they "never had a chance. that happened along the mexican border. two officers shot and killed while trying to do their jobs. welcome back to the "america's newsroom," our number three. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. they didn't even have their weapons drawn before the government started shooting. casey stegall is joining us live from dallas. >> an awful lot of heavy hearts. the governor of texas has been ordered the flags to honor and pay tribute to the officers

killed in a line of duty, ambushed over the weekend in broad daylight down in the border town of mcallen, texas. investigators say the 911 call was made by a woman who told dispatchers that a fight between her father and son was turning violent. when police arrived at the house they made contact with the person in the front yard to verify that story as those two officers then approached the front front door. the suspect opened it and without warning started shooti shooting. he then took his own life. both officers died at a local hospital. 45-year-old el doll the old guard is out was a and his partner had been on the force for about two and half years. >> they come here every day and put their lives on the line. and people don't realize, a

memorial has been set up in front of the mcallen police department. law enforcement partners and perfect strangers have been filing through dropping the flowers, cards, balloons, anything to pay your respects. public records show that the 23-year-old gunman had previous run-ins with law enforcement before, and that includes an assault, various drug charges, fling police and also driving under the influence. john? >> such a tragedy. casey stegall, thank you. >> sandra: the controversial defund the police movement and instead send unarmed social workers in some cases to try to de-escalate the situation. defenders of that's a they get safer communities by taking officers off the street. one activist telling usa today that even the uniform alone

could "trigger people. but back and mcallen, texas, the two armed officers had no chance against the government then what chance was a social worker have? good morning to use her, and what is your answer to that question? >> these people are just plain out idiotic cassandra, they sent social workers out there and they will get social workers killed. as the chief of police in seattle said earlier this morning, when you cut back their funding of police out there inputs of their officers in harm's way. let me give you some stats. i'm so angry about what's happening to our police, they are not robocop's, they are real people. husbands and wives, sons and daughters and we've had 29 killed by gunfire since january of this year. we had 11 killed, which we all

know should never have happened. we've had up more officers shot this year since 2015, 550 officers have been killed in the line of duty in this country and at 717 have committed suicide. we are not going to have any police left. america better wake up and while they didn't start this fire, this was a lowlife piece of trash, and when police officers showed up at his door at he shot multiple times in the face and chest. i'm tired of this mob an and i proudly wear our state troopers shirt today. and a savanna garza, the daughter? sorry, savanna shabazz, the daughter of officer chavez went on and gave this eloquent brokenhearted plea on twitter

about her dad who was killed in these scumbags on twitter attacked her because she said blue lives matter. i'm angry and america better wake up and get angry about this or we won't have more police. >> sandra: for those who are trying to have the discussion, for those who are fighting to be heard, for those saying that police are the problem and we can answer the call with social workers, obviously there are two sides to this debate. how do you bring everybody together, is there a solution? are you willing to have discussions to unite the country and bring people together? >> sandra, i'm glad you asked that question. there's a difference between every black life matters, which it does, and every police officer's life matters. every black life matters but black lives matter, they are not about black lives. where were they when black cops had been killed?

where were they when teenagers were killed over the weekend? they don't care, black lives matter is a socialist organization that wants to overturn the country. you can't reason with them, you can't reason with the mob, you can't reason with the aoc. it turned all of our stomachs. we all were united and democrats who are behind us, pelosi and biden, all of us are behind them and aiding and abetting these people who have violence in place. look what nancy pelosi said, they don't want to sit down. they don't want to sit down, sandra. police want to sit down, they want to get rid of the bad cops. americans want to get rid of the bad cops. black lives in the in the cops there. that's a socialist organization and america better wake up. we have less than 800,000

officers in all of our policing in america. 65% of department say they can't recruit people. >> just to be clear, you've seen us across our network and they come on and say that the violence in the streets, their organization is not represented by that violence. obviously there are unlawful acts to which you are referring specifically and i hear you on that. >> and when is joe biden coming out of the basement to put a stop to this? he could come out and join the president with statesmanship. >> you are calling on democratic leaders to step up and condemn the violence which i have heard and talk to you about that before. before we run out of time, on the covid cases in texas, houston is issuing stay issuing stay-at-home orders. final thoughts on what's happening in our case as far as going to various cases in the

hot spots we are seeing still? >> we deftly have a spike. we are very concerned and focused on it and we just need texas to come together. we will get through this. i want to leave this word picture. police officers that have been killed in the line of duty, there are over a thousand of them who have lost their parents own line of duty. let's put a face on this to america. there are bad cops, get rid of them. but god bless the rest of them who are standing out there getting spit on, cursed at, shot at, stabbed and killed. thank god we have these people willing to put their lives on the line for america, for the flag. this is -- sandra, we have lost our minds here in america and reasonable smart americans need to stand up, all of us.

and protect every black life in the street, we have to pull together and we can no longer listen to this mob whether it's twitter or on the streets. up they want to overturn the country. that looks like that v-shaped comeback might be flatlining to some degree. the surgeon cases is forcing some states to rethink their real openings with hope for a fast return to normal fading. an article in "the washington post" reading after the fastest recession in u.s. history the economic recovery may be fizzling. the post points out it took nearly ten years for unemployment to fall back to its starting point after the 2,007

recession. larry kudlow, and the lame stream media is not talking about what's happening with the stock market and of jobs the left will destroy it and, they are laying off 50% of its workforce. bed bath & beyond, so what's up with the v-shaped recovery. >> and, we have some of these isolated cases and there is still hard hardship out there. that said, in terms of the v-shaped recovery, if you look at a variety of indicators including high frequency indicators it looks like it's a story that still in place. i read that post article and i

was not impressed by it. and i've got one this morning. job postings from the indeed website, they continue to rise. including believe it or not in the high k states in the southwest. so whether it's consumer confidence or retailing or housing, and we are scouring everything imaginable. i don't see an interruption to the v-shaped recovery and at the moment, what with our fingers crossed i think we are on track to for a very strong second half of the year. >> david lynch and "the washington post," and i will redo just a little bit of it. if there were still hopes of a

v-shaped comeback, that will turn into a traditional self-perpetuating reception. >> i know some very prominent wall street economists who share our view and i might add the congressional budget office. and that was we will come back to john's point about the united layoffs, nobody likes that, it's terrible. we created 8 million jobs in may and june, and the key point here is returning to work. temporary layoffs and furloughs are now giving way back to a trend of returning to work. some of this by the way is a function of the payroll

protection plan that was put in place by secretary of steven mnuchin. now the case rate is disturbing. no question about that. the fatality rate remains very low and flat, so that's good for it. hospitalization in some states have gone up and i acknowledge all of that. but it doesn't yet seem to be translating into another downturn. so i just cannot agree with that point of view yet at the present time. >> sandra: it's shaping up to be one of the biggest debates in the country. how do you as a a presidents head economic advisor, how do you advise the president on the economic impact if the kids don't go back to school. >> it will be much more difficult on the economic impact. some of them are education readings that fall behind and they may not be good job

candidates later on in life. some of it is social, you don't want the kids home or isolating and you think they need to be in school with each other. there's a toll on the parents. for example, single moms, regular families, whatever, there is a problem there. but look, the president has been insistent that the schools reopen. education secretary betsy devos has the same thing on the shows yesterday. the president has argued that he is looking at the potential to defund. now having said that, i think the president would be willing to consider additional funding for state and local governments if the schools do reopen, so that is perhaps an incentive. the big picture is, why not? if we go through the masking, if we go through the good hygiene

practices, if we go through the distancing practices and will go through the testing practices, we are testing 750,000 per day testing, that's quite remarkable. we are a long way from where we were last winter so i think schools can plan this out. those are the fundamentals, the four fundamentals on the health story and that will mitigate these hot spots. >> john: it could take seven or eight days. those are single parents who have to stay home to educate their kids and they can't go to work. people who have two-parent working families, oftentimes one has to stay home and i want to see the kids back in school. and guidelines in a state like north dakota need to be -- the

cdc guidelines are out there is a best case scenario. space is a problem. >> local conditions will preva prevail, and there isn't a way to improve the spacing. i've read in some cases, alternating classes for example that may not run through a normal school day. there's a lot of options here and i'm not an expert on all these things, some of these are architectural issues and funding issues, and i think the president would be willing to consider additional funds.

how much money are we talking about? >> something that probably would be on the table, and, it's not to say they are burdens, and can't we put the best minds together and can't we figure out masking? this is not so difficult. >> sandra: the goal for everyone his safety back in schools. i know you've had a chance to look at it by now. it looked very poorly.

no circumstances, if he violates good common sense practice. can you imagine? common sense, you want to have across-the-board tax hikes for individuals and large businesses, small businesses and international businesses. >> sandra: that american message sounds a lot like the president, don't you think, and a green new deal which will destroy the gdp along the way. he won't be able to buy anything

if we continue those policies. that's a fly in the ointment and i'm just saying, practically, you want to re-regulate and tax everything that's moving. i just don't see that. that's just nonsense, and i think president trump will apply his logic and we will rebuild the economy in 2021. >> see you back on campus next week. >> sandra: at the black lives matter sign in front of trump tower will become a flash point for protesters, plus, robert mueller defending the prosecution of roger stone and the new op-ed. will the form of special counsel

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>> sandra: tempers flaring at trump towers in new york city, and some counter protesters also gathering at the scene, and no

injuries or arrests have been reported. >> president trump: roger stone was treated horribly, roger stone was treated fairly unfairly. roger stone was brought into this witch hunt, this whole political witch hunt. >> john: president trump disk defending the decision to commute the prison sentence of his longtime friend and advisor roger stone. this comes as a president faces blowback from both parties over the move. associate editor with the wall street editor. and, that was a commutation and not a pardon in this case? >> this was a friend of his and,

had protected him in his own testimony. the president signaled that he would was unjustly prosecuted. and this allows roger stone to continue the appeal. and it will cost him a lot of money and he will have a hard time doing that. this is a charge and a conviction that even the attorney general barr has said was in his own words, righteous. >> john: i'm wondering if the commutation might have been from bar. he went to bat politically and expended some political capital, getting the sentencing guidelines for stone reduced. do you think there might have been some compromise here? >> they could have been. it's hard to say, but no matter

what this will be immensely controversial. this was a person who was convicted of lying to congress and obstructing justice, temp, tampering the witness. this was done by the mueller investigation, and the sentencing guidelines are reduced. maybe this was a deal between him and the president but the act itself has already drawn of course condemnation from the democratic side of the senate. but even from a couple of republicans which is unusual for the president to get blowback from his allies in the senate. >> john: senator pat toomey was critical but senator mitt romney of utah who is obviously no fan of the president was particularly strident in his condemnation, "tweeting unprecedented, historic corruption. he commuted the sentence of a

jury convicted by lying to shield the president. people of the same party typically defend a president's right to commute the sentence or pardon whoever they want because it's right there in the article number two of the constitution and they have the power to do it. why do you think this is drawing so much fire? >> i think presidents in the past have had a controversial pardons. this one looks like a payoff, something out of a mafia book where if you protect me, i will take care of you down the road. because it had the sanctioning of the attorney general it is even more problematic. whether or not this politically bellows back on him is kind of hard to say. so far off from the election. but we will see also, probably this will come up in detail in any kind of testimony that robert mueller now does before the judiciary committee and the senate which is something that lindsey graham says he's going to call for.

>> we don't know if or when they will testify and it will certainly be interesting to watch. john bussey as always, great to see you. sandra? >> sandra: as joe biden's vision takes shape it's much more liberal than envisioned. could this hurt his chances with moderate and independent? we debate, next. [♪]

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>> sandra: former vice president joe biden has said he will fundamentally transform america if elected president. "the washington post" taking a close look at that. finding is of biden's vision comes into view that his proposals are much more liberal then they were just a few weeks ago. lauren claffey is a former, richard goodstein is a democratic strategist and former advisor to bill and hillary clinton. i will start with you first. we will take the first sentence in "the washington post" story, and 500 solar panels are flashing carbon emissions. rapidly expanding government sponsored health care. and so is joe biden moving further to the left. but is it too far to the left? >> the problem i think that the white house has in making this case is that joe biden is a

lifelong moderate. he beat a socialist running as a moderate, and he has worked with republicans his whole life. what the white house is trying to do is try to run against the caricature of joe biden but biden's for tackling the climate change, and joe biden's for reforming the police, not for defunding the police. so pick your issues, he's for securing the borders and not for open borders. >> sandra: but it's for transforming america. his words. >> i think biden is a great candidate, when he's not speaking, he's on defied and everyone can apply this moderate label. the biden administration is a liberal progressive administration and i think we will see this more and more as we get closer to the campaign

and there's actual debate and more healthy proposals that come up. he's already said he's going to raise taxes and, that's four more government regulations. it's hard to have your kick and eat it, too, some of the policies are in the middle and that will be lost on a lot of voters. >> is bernie sanders and how he sees things. >> the compromise that they came up with, if implemented, will make biden the most progressive president since fdr. >> sandra: that seems in contrast to what we just heard from you. >> biden will tell you his policies will be quite progressive, certainly by historic standards. but again what's progressive in this day and age is shoring up the affordable care act. not medicare for all and certainly not litigating it like the trump administration is to

do away with health care for tens of millions of people which is they are now trying to do in the courts. so is that progressive? yes, it is. is it something the public wants? gun safety dealt with as opposed to letting everyone have as many guns as they want? yes they do. so is that considered progressive? i think joe biden was a company in. >> sandra: let's throw up their real clear politics elective. joe biden pulling 94.32 trump 94.3's of a nine-point lead at there in the real clear politics average. those two things are two primary reasons that i created the greatest economy we have ever had. and now we are creating them again.

then you have the joe biden unveiling his, by america economic package. >> what joe biden would do is not have tax cuts to benefit the rich, but the middle class. what joe biden wants to do is have an investment and jobs. we have 7.5 million fewer jobs, fewer people working today, than the day donald trump took offi office. we had economic they are coming out of a pandemic there.

turned out very aggressively with trump. you can't just throw money at them. >> i'm talking about economic numbers prepandemic. and that was at trend line that barack obama left. and that's true. we will continue the debate another time. >> john: and two of our nation's biggest fellows are teaming up to create a whole new

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joining us now is jordan chang, and it's great of you to be here this morning. tell us what all this means and what's at stake. >> what's at stake is in the future of the world. and that's things we have talked about last year. we have beijing here with this increased tempo and, going after hong kong and china has been engaged in bad behavior. and now we have and this will broil the relationship even mo more. u.s. citizens will be detained and our information about the alleged crime. that's prolonged interrogations

and reasons related to state security. security personnel may detain or deport u.s. citizens for sending electronic private messages critical of the prc government. it's a dire message and warning. >> it certainly is but we have to remember that china detained it to u.s. citizens because it wanted to retaliate for canada and honoring an execution request from the united states, and so china takes hostages and china has actually taken american citizens and that was alleged crimes that they are committing. now all they have is china doing this over the course of decades. article 38 applies to expiratory editorial actions so there's

getting for various sources of alleged crimes. >> sandra: i want to transition to "the new york times" headlines about china and iran. defining u.s., china and iran, the investment and security packed away to vastly extend an economic lifeline and creating new flash points with the united states. >> i think that beijing believes that in the run-up to the november election, they can get away with a lot of provocative and belligerent behavior which as i think one explanation for all that we have seen since the middle of february. also i think that just basically, beijing believes that, i don't think that it can for a number of reasons. i think the united states has the means to push away and that

specially against the chinese banks. beijing will continue to see how far we can go in making gains. >> sandra: gordon chang, thank you. >> john: a rare name change for the nfl. what finally convinced washington to retire the team's nickname and what it means for the bottom line.

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>> john: here are some names that have been kicked around, the red tails and the warriors, and the red hawks and the senators, why not take the name of something in town so that way we could -- but it's definitely a possibility. but at least some senators are winning. a little nod there. >> john: brett larson, great to see you, thanks so much. >> sandra: well if you think it's warm where we are now, get ready for it, it's a heat wave. it set to blanket the u.s. with potentially record-breaking temperatures in the u.s. we will have details on that, next. ♪

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the record heat also bring up some nasty storms, the threat of tornadoes today and much of the planes. that doesn't for us, john roberts. >> john: great to be with you this morning. we look forward to seeing what the redskins renamed the team. so fun, we will do it tomorrow. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. the city on edge, new york city is suffering its fourth straight weekend of gun violence. despite me or bill de blasio beefing up police patrols and hot spots. 35 victims in 28 separate shootings since friday, including a 1-year-old killed at a family cookout. police say shootings were up 600% between friday and saturday, from the same