>> before we go, remind your -- or have a kid to set your dvr for 6:00 a.m. eastern. fran, our day is done but you are only half done. >> yes. the jacksonville jaguars, will they have football, will they have crowds? we will see you tomorrow. >> sandra: president trump on the attack taking aim at joe biden on his record saying biden has moved so far to the left that he has "the most extreme platform of any major party nominees life are in american history. good morning everyone, and sandra smith. >> john: good morning to you, i'm john roberts. we are at the top of the hill on the roller coaster with a long slide into the weekend. president letting loose during an event in the rose garden focusing on china but quickly turning his attention to biden. president trump hammering the former vice president from everything from his record in beijing to terminal justice reform the economy, following the speech earlier in the day by

biden. listen to what the president said. >> please listen to your public health experts instead of denigrating them. >> president trump: he be opposed by very strict travel ban. but if we had listen to joe biden hundreds of thousands of additional lives would have been lost. >> i see american manufacturing, and american workers racing to dominate the global market. >> president trump: america lost nearly 10,000 factories while joe biden was vice president. >> one and 5 miles of our american highways are in the "poor condition" according to engineers. >> president trump: he was in there for eight years with president obama, why did they fix them? >> sandra: kristin fisher is live with him on that. >> yesterday for sure felt more like a rally than a rose garden events and president trump spent a little bit of time talking about hong kong and china and a

lot of time talking about joe biden. speak to joe biden's entire career has been a gift to the chinese communist party and to the calamity of errors that they've made. if they've made so many errors. and it's been devastating for the american worker. now joe biden is pushing a platform that would demolish the u.s. economy. >> the rose garden did it's an unusual spot for that kind of speech. maybe he was trying to raise contrast between him and his opponent and maybe he was trying to make up for the rally that he had to cancel in new hampshire last saturday or maybe you wanted a chance to counter the speech that joe biden had just given in delaware, and which the former vice president accused president trump of not having a national strategy to fight the coronavirus. >> mr. president, open everything now is not a strategy for success. it's barely a slogan.

quit pushing the false choice between protecting our health and protecting our economy. all it does is endanger our recovery on both fronts. >> joe biden has said that one of the first things he would do on day one in the offices give dr. anthony fauci unfettered access to the oval office but dr. fauci says that he hasn't personally briefed president trump in over two months. the white house has been denying for several days now that it has not been gathering and disseminating opposition research against dr. fauci. they say he is a valued member of the white house coronavirus task force with them just last night, the white house trade advisor peter navarro rode an op-ed in usa today with the headline "anthony fauci has been wrong about everything i have interacted with him on. but a senior white house advisor is telling me this morning that that op-ed definitely was not approved by the white house communications team. peter navarro has a long history of saying comments like that,

about dr. fauci, and you know, sandra, it appears that he simply went rogue with that op-ed. it remains to be seen if there is any sort of punishment for going around the white house comes team with that. >> john: i fox news alert, gun violence continued to soar in new york city. just last night at least six people were shot in brooklyn in one of them killed. now demonstrators taking to the streets and marchers supporting police officers. aisha hosni is live in new york city with more. it didn't take long for the sentiment to turn around in favor of the police. >> that's right john. i'm here at the "power of prayer" march which is about to get underway. you see the people in the white, those are clergy and look parishioners of the people in the blue are police officers and their families.

in the words of organizers, this is at 1085 call, an officer needs help as the city is hit with an antipolice sentiment and yet another night of gun violence. one person is dead and several more injured and that's 24 shootings in the last 28 for hours. last week the city saw 49 shootings, 276% jump compared to the same week last week, incredible. still no arrests have in the murder of that 1-year-old baby boy. the video shows all the people running away after shots were fired there. that they are stopped by a peace march last night and spoke briefly about the violence. take a listen. >> by being out here, you are sending the message. someone else gets to make the rules, the peacemakers make the rules in these neighborhoods. the peacemakers. >> but even some peace activists are asking the mayor to let the

police do their job. the nypd chief of department has had to spanning the anti-crime unit, hundreds of officers was a big blow i'd getting all those illegal guns off the streets. gang members are now feeling less afraid to carry those guns. couple that with calls to defund the police, growing antipolice sentiment, and they are saying it's demoralizing the officers. >> a lot of the conversation here in the street now where, you know, the police are being attacked, the police are being disrespected and denigrated, it's having any effect on the officers. >> and that is the reason for the march today. they will walk across the brooklyn bridge over to city hall. really, the same exact route that blm protesters have been using the last several weeks.

john? >> john: that rally expected to get underway very shortly. i know you will be following up for us and we will check back in with you later this morning. >> sandra: more on all this, the gun violence across the country with the louisiana senator john kennedy, a member of the senate judiciary committee. it's heartbreaking to see it's happening in our major american cities and it still seems to be on the rise. what are we doing about it, senator? >> our mayors are obviously not doing enough. there are three things they ought to do immediately in my judgment. number one, don't defund the police. number two, i love social workers but don't send a social worker to do the cops job. number three, call michael bloomberg and rudy giuliani and asked us to form to former mayors how they got control of the violence in new york city. they will tell you they implemented stop question and frisk. they used it as it should be used in a racially neutral manner. it's perfectly constitutional,

look at the 1968 opinion, terry v ohio written by all people chief justice warren, one of the most honorable people he had on the supreme court. >> sandra: this president has said though if the mayors don't step in and don't do something to stop this that he will offer federal assistance, federal help will be offered to step in. do you support that and at what level should the federal government stepped in to stop violence? >> while i haven't talked to the president about it but my understanding is he has offered many of our mayors federal help and most if not all of them have said no. and we are reaping the consequences right now. a civilization to be civilized has to have rules. they have to have somebody to enforce those rules and that's a rule of our cops. so many of these mayors think

that cops are guilty until proven innocent. >> sandra: i want to go to the messaging that we saw from the president yesterday, and this is joe biden speaking in delaware. the president speaking in the rose garden. the backward looking policies that will harm the environment, and there's probably never been a key time that the candidates have so different. >> sandra: it's not a campaign style speech which wasn't exactly what was promised but meanwhile you have polls indicating that joe biden is leaving.

he's a trump supporter candidate. so what does that say about president trump's reelection chances? >> while i can tell you why i'm not going to vote for vice president biden. he's a proponent of the "i deserve, you owe me" mentality. i believe in more free stuff. i think the vice president thinks that the way they handled china, and a cup of cocoa. and with the american people i

think they will see they took a hired left and kept driving. there was a roundtable discussion, they believe that louisiana public school should open even if cdc guidance can be followed. >> later this week we anticipate that dr. redfield and the team at cdc will issue additional guidance and we don't want that to be the reason that people don't open their schools. >> sandra: it's almost difficult to find a guidance and

it's open anyway. do you support that message? >> first, we were at lsu where you were a scholar athlete, i used to teach there. here's what i heard the vice president say. he said the cdc guidelines or guidelines, educations and local decision. use your own good judgment. here's what i also heard him s say. for whatever reason, and this is a good thing, our kids don't seem to be as susceptible or at least get nearly as sick as adults do from the coronavirus. i think we've had 30 deaths kids under 15 which is 32 many, of course. i think that keeping the schools closed will do far more harm to our kids than the brunt of our summer camp. now. it is up to the parents, i believe parents often are responsible for their kids. if you won't don't want to send your kid back to school then don't. if you are a teacher, and you don't want to go back, then don't. that's between him and the

school board. but i think for many of our children in america, school is the most stable thing in their lives. it's more than just education. its health care, mental health and counseling and we need to get them open. i've watched dozens of other countries do it, even vietnam, for god's sakes, has opened up their schools. if they can do it safely, we can, too. i do think it has also been politicized, sandra. >> sandra: absolutely. >> there are some politicians in washington, not all, i don't want to paint with too broad of a brush, but i think they like the political chaos of having our schools closed. they think it will help them in november. i just think we ought to think about the next generation out the election. >> sandra: democrats are pushing back on that message very hard, that their priority as the children and the safety of the children so that the debate that is firing up as well. but there seems to be mixed messaging even inside of the

white house when it comes to all of this. now, you have this new op-ed in the usa today penned by peter navarro, and economic advisor to the president, or he's essentially making the case that dr. fauci is wrong. here's a piece of it. anthony fauci has been wrong about everything i've interacted with him on. he has good bedside manner with the public but he's been wrong about everything i've interacted with him on. so when you ask me if i listen to dr. fauci's advice, my answer is only with skepticism and caution. i will quickly point out that the white house has reacted to this, director of strategic communications, said this did not go through normal white house clearance processes and it is the opinion of peter navarro alone, the president values expertise of medical professionals advising his administration. but senator kennedy, does it help to have this mixed messaging and have someone on the president's team publicly attacking the lead infectious

disease expert advising the president? >> i know both mr. navarro and dr. fauci. i like them both and i respect them both, i trust dr. fauci. but i don't think it's a news flash that mr. navarro and dr. fauci have not gotten along from day number one. this is not the first time that they tied up. i don't know why peter wrote the column, it is what it isn't he's entitled to his opinion. this is america, or at least for now we are entitled to our opinion. i would have preferred it that he not write it. i was with the vice president, dr. birx yesterday and the admiral and everyone is on the same page. i know the vice president thinks the world of dr. fauci. i do. is he right 100% of the time, no. none of us are, we are learning every day about this virus. >> sandra: all right,

senator john kennedy, we appreciate your time this morning. senator kennedy from louisiana, we appreciate it, thank you. >> john: a stunning rescue of a 3-week-old baby caught on dashcam video watch this. >> please, what about my baby? >> let me see the baby. >> john: at the hero cop who saved that baby joins us next. plus a surge of gun violence in new york city, is the tide starting to turn to the push to defund the police? >> it was important to make a change in our strategy, but to use the talents of our officers in new and better ways. we gone through the greatest crisis in the city's history. to be honest... a little dust?

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>> sandra: justice ruth bader ginsburg is resting comfortably at johns hopkins university hospital. she was hospitalized yesterday with a possible infection after experiencing fever and chills. a statement from the supreme court saying she underwent an endoscopic procedure. the 87-year-old justice will remain at johns hopkins for a few days and get antibiotics. she was also hospitalized in may for a benign gallbladder condition.

>> what we have to do to end the shootings, to bring the community out, it will come out to take back the neighborhood and people will do that all over the city. and that is how we turn this tide. >> john: as bill de blasio addresses the gun violence surge in his city there have been dozens of surges in recent days. now some demonstrators are calling for more policing. joe cardinality is a retired nypd lieutenant. good to see you this morning. he heard mayor de blasio talk about what he thinks it's going to take to turn this around but let me ask you first of all, what do you think is a cause of this. a lot of this appears to be in the surface, at least, gang-related. >> the surge is because of the policy set forward. the bail reform and everything else that goes along with it that was passed in the middle of the night without people really knowing what was going on until

it was shoved in their face. and without the plainclothes units, without the anticrime, without the street crime units, it makes it worse. you don't have anybody challenge challenging him and other than the uniform and those uniform jobs are really locked in. he sits back and he says, he can blame it all he wants. the blame is on him. this new law, they can't put his hands on somebody, and the houses are on the line. he says you know what, get rid of the few bad apples that are in there and let's move on and bring that city back together because i'm telling you, you see it on the west coast and do see

it on the web east coast. the city is in dire straits right now. >> john: what you are telling me very much mirrors what we heard from retired nypd detective pat brosnan yesterday who said he believes that criminals feel emboldened by what's being said coming out of city hall and other politicians. but to this idea of the anti-crime and the sixth street crime, and we say it had its own problems. but here's what the nypd chief of department terrence monahan said and what they need to do to address that now that the anti-crime has been disbanded. >> those are our best cops out on the street grabbing guns and so they are feeling it safe to carry a gun on the street. they are looking for ways to change that mentality out on the street by getting different units out there.

>> so different units out there, looks like the anti-crime unit is not going to come back. what we are seeing now in the face of the increased violence and the shootings in new york city is put people pushing back against the idea of defunding the police. we see this march from brooklyn across the brooklyn bridge to city hall, and do you think that is going to make a difference? >> the silent majority is coming out to say, you don't see this in the united states. you don't say wake up new yorkers, wake up americans, and it's scary. i see the democrats saying they

are worried about the lives of the children, more children will die from the violence in our streets than the coveted pandemic. >> john: 345 individuals ages 12 to 17 have been killed by gun violence. and that is a bit of an galvanizing effect. >> absolutely. , when they are emboldened to a point where they can go out there, and the mayor and

city council and we would let the police department do its job by the way it's trained to do it. that's a community-based policy, and i agree with them to the point that his hands are tied and so is the commissioner by this mayor. you need to put the police commissioner in conjunction with the mayor to say, listen. rudy rudy giuliani giuliani did it, he could care less about how his cuffs feel. >> john: there's no question that something has to change because the situation is really getting really bad. >> sandra: thank you john. president trump with a strong warning about joe biden's plans for the economy. rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel will join us live straight

ahead. plus the latest on the coronavirus pandemic and the push to reopen america's schools. what one state is now planning is confirmed cases continue to climb. >> covid is not blue, it's not ready, not democrat or republican, it's going to happen in any state. it will respond in ways to contain it without crushing our economies and killing jobs.

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>> given the nature of this outbreak given if you get infected and have no symptoms at all and never get sick, you are inadvertently propagating the pandemic. you could be a vulnerable person who could get sick, who could get hospitalized or who could even die. >> john: it that was dr. anthony fauci, the warning comes amid a growing number of states reporting a high highest daily cases. of texas has even called in more than 500 military medical personnel for support. casey stegall is live in dallas. >> that is at the requests of state health officials and also fema.

places like houston and san antonio where the hospital systems have been overwhelmed. texas has now had a more than 1,501,500 patients hospitalized statewide and now pushing the death toll above 3300. and many new cases reported yesterday, a record. what's more, the testing positivity rate is no close to 70%. >> in order to socially distance and wear masks and things like that, we can only pray that that is what is going on and it will start to calm down. >> florida reported 132 deaths yesterday which is the highest daily total since pandemic beg began. more than 400 floridians have died from the virus.

north carolina, nevada, and utah all reporting record numbers of deaths yesterday alone. this, as a community across the country grapple with how, or if, districts like san antonio or austin have either push the start back or implementing online teaching at least for the first a few weeks, and person learning virtually everywhere will likely require masks. speaking of facial coverings, a new study by the institute for health metrics and evaluation now suggests that if 90% of americans wore masks outside of the home they could save 40,000 lives potentially by the 1st of november. john? >> john: if there are some school districts who say start practicing with your child wearing a mask because it will have to give them on for almost seven hours a day. >> that's a long time. >> sandra: president trump meanwhile going after joe biden

and his latest proposal to recover the economy. the president calling it a "hard left crusade against american energy. ronna mcdaniel is chairwoman against the republican national committee. so first, to the venue that the president used to deliver this message, he's being criticized for basically delivering a campaign style speech in the rose garden yesterday. >> of the present gave a great speech yesterday and joe biden has chosen to hide in his basement and not take tough questions and not do interviews and not push out the policies he's proposing which includes a $4 trillion tax hike. that means 82% of american would have an increase in their taxes and as you mentioned, completely pulling back all that the president has done to make us energy independent. by $2 trillion energy tax hike

and then making us dependent again on the middle east and giving iran more control not just globally but over the united states of america. it's frightening and we need to hear about it. >> sandra: biden is taking on this carbon free power plan, and as you said the price tag, $2 trillion. and that would destroy the economy. now joe biden is pushing a platform that i don't like that would demolish the u.s. economy. today joe biden gave a speech in which he set the core of his economic agenda is a hard left crusade against american energy. he wants to kill american ener energy. he wants to approve the green new deal. when i first saw it i thought it

was a joke. >> he referenced a biden yesterday and said that he is delivering a false choice, protecting the economy and protecting our health. how does the campaign respond to that? >> the president is putting forward a balanced approach and saying, we have to protect our health but we can do that at the same time as we get this economy moving. he has proven to be correct because we added 4.8 million jobs last month. joe biden, a person who has been in washington his whole life we never had a job outside of washington, who never created a business, has absolutely no clue how to get this economy humming and his plans are showing that. taxing 82% of the american people is not how we are going to get this economy going again. he has untaxed and bankrupt american energy plan and his energy plan is frightening because is not just strategic. it's also economic, and it

strategic. that's the decision has been made to move it outdoors. "the new york times" article on that happening, heading into the convention? no, not i. and they are obvious concerns about jacksonville, florida, considering the spike in covid-19 cases. what can you tell us about any change of plans that may be coming? >> i do have to take a little issue with that "new york times" article. let me add a little bit more. all the people they interviewed that said they weren't going to convention, they didn't come to the last convention so it's not shocking.

when i interviewed the rnc members they said it, i'm not coming. going forward we are taking the health and safety of the convention goers in place. we are working with lower officials, the governor and the mayor. we have outdoor venues and indoor venues so we are moving forward and will be giving guidance to the delegates in the upcoming days. it's going t culminate with the nomination, and those who have seen our economy grow and all the good things that he's done for our country, will be excited to see him renominated and reelected in november. considering what we'd seen as far as cobit cases and the willingness of people to show up when this is still a big problem? >> i think you can see the president moving forward and also allow us to have an

important person exciting celebration >> sandra: saw reports of this going virtual are not true? >> not true. >> john: sandra, thanks. if the white house pushing for schools to reopen. at democrats including joe biden pushing back on that so how do we do it safely? and we have more coming up. >> we should try as a default to get the kids to stay in school. however, that will vary from where we are in the country and with the dynamics of the outbreak are in your particular region. over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me.

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reopening schools. the push to send students back to class could make the crisis even worse. joining us now is the former education secretary margaret spellings. president trump is a quick push between protecting the health and all it doesn't endanger our recovery in both fronts. as a president presenting a false choice? >> our students need to get back to school and they will, it won't be physically or in person in many cases but just as you had on the clip with dr. fauci we need to harmonize the conditions in the community with the learning needs of students and it really, local officials, superintendents and others are hunkering down and it dealing with this locally. they are not really looking to washington for much guidance on this truth be told. >> john: at washington or people formally from washington are weighing in making this a political issue. teachers should be forced to

choose between their lives and their jobs. is this a choice between life and a death? >> we are trying to use their human capital or teachers in smart and safe ways so for teachers who are at risk, listen. they may be will largely be teaching online. but our younger and able-bodied and it's a mixed bag with a complex set of issues and that's found the ground look locally. john, we are giving the lack of learning, and some of that kick

it done online. and some of that can be productive. online learning if you are as a college student and a high school student, you have the attention span, and you have enough direction. online learning isn't something that works for them. >> or it works in small doses, that's why i'm encouraged when i see communities around the country who are going to because their physical plant to have in person learning, socially distance young kids that are less likely to get and seriously harmed by the pandemic. let's get those kids in person

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>> what about my baby? >> hold on, let me see the baby. he's still blinking. he's blinking. hold on. open bracket crying] >> there we go, okay. he's crying. it's okay, he's crying. he's crying. >> sandra: it's hard to keep it together watching that. a mother's nightmare in michigan, the 3-week-old baby choking and struggling to breathe but the 3-week-old baby was saved think thanks to a police officer. the sterling heights police officer joins us now. you are being called a hero, that was unbelievable to see, how did you stay so calm and save that baby's life? >> it was a very stressful situation. i had to resort back to my

training and that prepared me mentally for the situation. as soon you pull up to a scene, and i have a whole family, 12 family members running out of their house frantic with a lifeless child in mom's arms and she throws me the child and i had to help the child as best i can. i think what helped fast was my training that i received through my police department here as well as at the academy and being put through training with realistic scenarios that prepared me for this. and as soon as i grabbed the baby, that training kicked in, as it should. >> sandra: we have the video up, and use of the entire family, 12 members of the family rushed out carrying that baby that could not breathe because it was choking. when did you know ultimately things were going to be okay? >> well, when you are dealing with an infant, it's slightly

different than dealing with an adult. being that they are so small. i had to first check the inoffensivinfant's airway, and e anything at that point and she wasn't breathing. as i said in the video, and i tried to reiterate that to mom and ultimately at the same time, trying to keep the family, while also reviving their child. i took the baby who was faceup and i rotated her to face down on my forearm and i put my

forearm on my left side and gave approximately three back blows, to the upper middle portion of the babies back to ultimately dislodge. >> sandra: we'd seen the video, it is amazing. the department put out a statement saying not only did you save the baby but you did an awesome job canceling the family. it's amazing what your data. you are a hero. >> is my pleasure, just another day of the job. >> sandra: we are grateful for you. >> john: that's it, just another day on the job saving lives. we are now expecting to hear from president trump this morning, he set to speak at a white house briefing about ms-13 at 11:15 a.m. we will have that for you when it happens, stay with us. can my side be firm?

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>> sandra: a fox news alert, we are awaiting remarks from secretary of state mike pompeo. we could possibly hear more remarks about china to end preferential treatment of hong kong. but first, state and local leaders pushing back on federal intervention in portland as the city faces its seventh straight week of protest and unrest. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," it's wednesday morning and i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts in washington and we are in the middle of hump day and hoping to make it through and get to thursday and then onto the weekend. some businesses reporting

billions of dollars in losses from looters and rioters that now the department of homeland security deploying federal officers to protect government buildings. but the mayor of portland, i told the acting secretary that my biggest immediate concern and a life threatening tactics as agents of use. we do not need or want their your help. jonathan, good morning. >> political leaders in oregon have never been comfortable with the presence of federally armed agents on the streets of portland to come into their patients appears to run out completely after in and said end of the protesters seriously injured. watch carefully here. they had gas or smoke canister is fired at the protester, who is standing still holding a speaker over his head.

an end in seconds later esther is hit directly in the head by some sort of impact munition, unclear if that was another canister, a rubber bullet, a sponge or bean bag round. the protester drops to the ground and others rushed to help. the 26-year-old man is still in the hospital having undergone surgery for a fractured skull and other injuries. and for ron white and jeff merkley to write to attorney general bill barr demanding that the officer who fired a round to identified and investigated and we unequivocally condemn such acts of violence or any effort to attack or silence those peacefully exercising their

first amendment rights. president trump of course has in portland can't control protesters who have at times, attacked police with rocks, bottles and even hammers then he will, saying just this past monday "we've done a great job in portland." but john, the local battle between leaders and trump administration is a stark example of the debate over whether sending in militarized federal forces actually columns or inflames these kinds of situations. >> john: and the debate between the trump administration and a lot of local officials in many places across country. jonathan hunt for us this morning, thanks. fox news alert, more gun violence erupting in new york city. a shooting in brooklyn leaving one man dead and five others wounded and this comes as the city deals with the surgeon shootings. new york city mayor bill de blasio calling on the committee to help stem

the violence. >> we talked about what we have to do to end of the shootings. particularly what we need to do, this will and to bring the community out, to occupy the corners, and people will come out to take back the neighborhood. and people that all of the city that is how we turn the tide. communities and police together in common cause. >> john: and ted williams is a former d.c. homicide detective. you saw mayor de blasio they're saying what needs to be dumped all this violence but a lot of people are putting the blame for the violence squarely on his shoulders. >> i realize that, i can tell you that something needs to be done in new york and other metropolitan cities around the country. when you look at the fact that a 1-year-old child was shot in the

stomach you have to get the police department and the citizens of new york to come together like they are doing today the government there in the police department, they've got to be able to help each other. police officers cannot do it alone and at the citizens and the police officer asked you have a lot of officers and you can tell, but the majority of good loving police officers are there to serve and protect. earlier on a michigan officer who saved the life of a child. this is what police officers do every day. >> john: it certainly there are some bad eggs and police department but overwhelmingly the membership of police forces across the country appears to do good things and tries to uphold

the protection of the community in a lawful way. there are many people who were saying, what we are seeing on the streets of york and other cities as a result of this campaign to redeem fund police and that is from the funding of the new york city police department. here is what the new york city police benevolent association said about that. they are trying to figure out what the protest has one. they aren't going to stop at a billion dollars, they don't want police officers in our street. they don't want us keeping our children safe in school, so what is next? >> john: many police officers are saying criminals are feeling emboldened because you are talking about defunding police and talking about all the bad things that happen police departments as opposed to, as we

speak, the criminals are watching and they are looking at this so-called defunding come of this ban on police departments, and they are laughing. they know they are able to take over. this is the most dumb, the stupidest thing that you could ever hear in our society about defunding in our police department. what you need to do is be giving them more money, not less money. we need police officers and we cannot live in a civilized society. to serve and protect those in the community. and i don't want to be -- a

total elimination, right now bad guys are saying if you don't see blue and white, you could do whatever you want. it's one of the critical five or six drastic mistakes that bill de blasio made. i started that unit, people who straightened out times square for me are the people who straightened out harlem and bedford-stuyvesant and, gun control is meaningless. >> there are some people say that if i crime unit had its share of problems and needed to be disbanded but what do you think? do we need to start to get back to that prevention type of policing? >> you find a way to resolve it.

a cop that is in uniform is only going to make so many kinds of arrest. when you talk about having guns and people doing undercover work in police departments, those are the plainclothes officers. you need to plainclothes officers and i hope that they will reevaluate and rethink this, if they are not serving the citizens of new york by disbanding this unit. >> john: ted williams, always good to see you. we appreciate it. >> sandra: fox news alert on what fox news experts are calling the new epicenter of the coronavirus in the u.s. florida is seen a spike in new cases in the last month and the trend line is doing in going in the wrong direction. return of lockdown restrictions

is a real possibility. >> we are going to have to look at closing stuff again. we understand ashe health and safety of the residence of the area, this level of increase is not sustainable. >> sandra: phil has the latest from there. >> simply put, things are simply not improving for the state of florida especially here from south florida. on tuesday of all the coronavirus test that came in, 30% in miami-dade county were positive, that's roughly one out of every three people. and and it, the waiting line to get a test is four hours. in the hot spot of hot spots,

miami-dade county, comparisons to china at the beginning are here. >> miami is now the epicenter of the pandemic. we were seeing wuhan six months ago or five months ago and now we are there. >> miami's mayor francis suarez says that's an extreme comparison but insists there are, without a doubt, very pressing issues here on the ground. >> we do have an issue with our hospitals very nearing capacity, and we may have to take some dramatic written measures of things don't improve over the next few weeks. >> there is a live look inside of the tent with one of the lucky people here in line. they are finally getting their covid-19 test. more than 3,000 nurses will be brought into florida from outside of the state to help

strained hospitals and icu wards, some of which are already at capacity across the state and a lot of others are very close to it. as far as schools which were supposed to start in five weeks, they aren't going to have the regular five day a week inside of the classroom class is going on if everything stays exactly at as it is. broward county schools announced last night that if everything does not improve, they will not be doing in classroom schooling. most likely it will be online and remote. >> sandra: things changing quickly there and across the state. >> john: a u.s. navy warship continues to burn off the coast of california. why naval officials say they may finally have the upper hand in the fight to put out that fire. plus president trump going way

off script in the rose garden. zeroing in on his 2020 opponent, special report anchor bret baier joins us next and we will have much more coming up on takes to save $3,0 to newdat that.

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>> john: hundreds of sailors and firefighters could be

finally gaining momentum to put out a fire on a burning warship docked in san diego. a top service official now saying it could be as extinguished as early as today. the fire on uss yvonne and richard started but it has now cooled down enough to allow personnel to fight the fire from the inside. >> president trump: noun joe biden is pushing a platform which would demolish the u.s. economy, totally demolish it. joe biden released his unity platform developed with socialist bernie sanders, describing what he would do if elected president. of the biden-sanders agenda is the most extreme platform of any major party nominee by far in american history. >> sandra: that was president trump during a rose

garden event. he repeatedly went after joe biden accusing the former vice president of embracing the radical left. here to talk about it is reporter bret baier. i saw you had a reaction right away on twitter, to the president's delivery and the rose garden of the very style speech. >> i said it's not usual for the president in the rose garden or the white house to do that. it's the legal act that prevents people in his administration or his senior officials from campaigning on white house government property but that does not apply to the president. so it's not usual and probably would have gotten a lot of pushback from republicans whose heads would have exploded on capitol hill had president obama done that. that said it, this is president trump in this

different environment campaigning, essentially pushing back on joe biden's speeches. we took all of joe biden yesterday in his speech about the economy and climate change and directly in the president's words contrasting what he said were democrat agenda items for joe biden and bernie sanders. >> sandra: i wanted to get this in here because we would like to tell our audience that it is now confirmed that "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace will be interviewing the president this sunday july 19th and it will mark the president's first sunday show appearance since june 2019. the interview will take place at the white house and will focus on the upcoming election, the coronavirus pandemic and civil unrest across the country. >> i think you want to get your popcorn with that for chris wallace. >> sandra: and we will tune in here friday morning as well to talk about it. that being said, this is

"the washington post" on that biden-texas added. biden advertising in texas that is ominous for trump amid it extraordinarily times, some of the most wrenching civil tensions and a half century and the president of the united states has proved utterly incapable of speaking to the nations about any of it in a manner that demonstrates a shred of basic humanity given the circumstances. biden has an opening to step up and merely show the country through his own conduct that it doesn't have to be this way. what does it tell you that they are doing this in texas? >> i think they see an opening. in previous elections there are certain states like texas and arizona where democrats have been like lucy and the football, they yank it away at the last minute. if they think they have a chance and it's not there. there are indications by recent polls that texas it is play. i think we have yet to see that

bear out. the states like arizona i think are much more purple. but in texas he is running this ad that deals with wearing masks and what you can do and the fighting together. this is obviously as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations are increasing in texas and that is a real concern for a lot of people. >> sandra: is about ten seconds of that biden/texas added. >> john: people are frightened and they are worried about their parents and grandparents who are most at risk. this virus is tough but texas is tougher. >> sandra: there you have it. i should throw up on the screen a real clear politics average for texas showing president trump, and we will watch that. meanwhile, if i could ask about what's going on with the white house messaging when it comes to now peter navarro and the president's economic advisor

out with this piece in "usa today," basically saying that he doesn't believe anything that dr. fauci is saying, that he's been wrong on so many occasions, the white house has put out a statement saying, we didn't approve that message and he has basically gone rogue. >> i think it's interesting to hear that from the white house, that he's gone rogue. you heard dan savino say he's going to confront dr. fauci, i don't know the political benefit of going after one of your top medical experts in the middle of a pandemic. i don't see the upside. people say maybe it's too sure of the base but they were already shored up on that front. i think that fighting the pandemic, it takes president and it's interesting to watch.

>> we have calls out to the white house, and dr. fauci has a good bedside manner, and he did not go through with the proper process to put that in "usa today." so we will go on into the 6:00 hour with that. it's been one of the embattled food company goya gaining a high-profile ally in ivanka trump. now the backlash is picking up steam. did she violate government ethics rules? plus president trump opening up on school openings. we should try as best as possible to keep the children in

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and as the former neurology chief, we are trying to have a real conversation about how we get this done and it's in the best interest of everyone to have our kids to get back into the classroom safely. so the first question is, can we do it? >> good morning, sandra, thanks for having me. yes, of course we can do it. our peer nations are doing it and we are the outliers here. because of the same reasons we should. number one we know at this point if you believe in the science, the science says 99.97% of deaths in the u.s. are people who are in people over 15.

and the pediatric hospitals, and the far left from seasonal influenza. and there is zero, virtually zero risk for children getting something serious or dying from this disease. anyone who thinks school should be closed is not talking about children, and they should say that. it has nothing to do with the children's risk. let's talk about the risks to teachers. this is probably the biggest fear. and these are not high-risk age groups, we know this by now. there are high-risk teachers and those teachers should be able to

believe in they can teach using social distancing. and if they still are afraid, and, excuse me, thanks for correcting me. we commit some severe public policy, and long distance learning is a failure. 50% drop in math ability, 30% drop in reading ability and half the kids, 20-50% of kids don't even long on. distance learning is not going to work but besides that the most important thing that kids learn is other things like social interactions and

maturation's. you can't learn that via computer. the schools are where we learned that kids need a hearing aid. >> to be clear, and you are in encouraging that the cdc year guidance be. they don't get sick from this, and the data shows that they do not significantly transmit to adults. >> i'm sorry, i don't mean to cut you off. the science shows that mass wearing stop the spread of the disease, and children transmit

the disease significantly. and the science says, this is data from iceland, sweden, switzerland and u.k., australia, canada and ireland, germany. everywhere in the western world has shown that children do not transmit significantly to adults, given their own parents, and that teachers are not at higher risk of getting a disease like this disease from children. you either believe the science, or not. you can't insist you believe in the science on an act contrary to science. this is absurd.

period for keeping kids home and other harsh restrictions across the country. the hospital for sick kids in toronto, schools must be in person, no mass then no spacing because children are not at risk. if you are not talking about children. >> sandra: is a fascinating conversation, i don't mean to cut you off but there are so many things to talk about there. there are kids who fall into the high risk category and there are kids with asthma. how do you protect them. that's always true.

seasonal influenza is transmitted from children to the high risk adults who are teachers every year. that's 5.4% to zero kids have died from covid-19. if teachers think that they can't work during this, then they absolutely must say that we have to close schools from november through april. >> sandra: what we don't know is how this will interact with the flu season and that's what dr. redfield is warning. listen to him and i will get your thoughts on the other side. >> i do think the fall and winter of 2020 and 2021 will be the most difficult times we've experienced in american public health because of what you said. the cooccurrence of the covid and influenza. >> sandra: so dr. atlas, how do you respond to that? we don't know what an entire flu season looks like combined with covid-19. there is so much that we don't

know about the spread of this disease, doesn't that concern you putting all these kids back into the classroom together? >> i find it bizarre, and it is proven that they have no significant risk. it's proven that influenza is worse than this for children. it's proven that evil don't transmit significantly to adul adults. and, we are at the mercy of the medical experts, and dr. anthony fauci is being taken on by the president's own economic advisor in this new piece published in "usa today."

dr. fauci has been wrong, and skepticism into question. are are you saying dr. fauci's advice, and are using the top medical experts are advising the president? >> i'm saying look at the science. certain things are known. if you don't believe that in the science, then stop saying that you believe in a science. science says open the schools and the science says there is no risk to children. the science says teachers are not at risk if they go to school. schools are an essential business in this country or they are not. i don't understand why people don't take into account the severe harms of not having schools. isn't that what public policy is all about, to start acting out of fear and an outlier in this

country, the country is finished. >> sandra: dr. fauci to be clear is saying, of the dynamics of any outbreaks as they happen. it's a fascinating conversation and we want our kids to get back in school and we need them to be educated and socialized. we appreciate your thoughts this morning. >> thank you. a new twist in the controversy over goya foods. the company ceo is already facing a backlash over his support. if it's going it has to be good. >> ivanka is in hot water for that tweet which has now gotten

over 100,000 lakes and the, prohibiting the use of enhancing personal business gains. the law states and employees shall not use or permit the use and it also says the employing agency in this case, it's their responsibility to initiate any disciplinary action, and right now the white house is a firing back. we issued the statement to fox news saying, only the media and catholic culture movement would criticize ivanka for showing her critical support which has been ridiculed for supporting this administration.

and meanwhile the president weighing in just a few hours ago saying goya foods is doing great. the radical left to smear missing machine backfired, kellyanne conway urged people to "go by ivanka's stuff. and comments from the white house briefing room, it doesn't look like anything came from this but it's quite a firestorm on twitter. >> griff jenkins, always good to see you. >> is all of this a sign of a tougher stance over off toward the communist country? we will get brand-new reaction

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>> of the tiny secretary, and they were made at a human and, secretary of state mike pompeo sounding off morgan ortagus as state department spokeswoman.

and we all wash what happened and it was not a good situation. >> thanks for having me. i think we are seeing two separate issues, the trade deal is entirely important, and my colleagues can speak more to that. they have completely gone back on their promise to the united nations and the people of hong kong and the people of the world. we are seeing the complete erosion of democracy in hong kong and that's why president trump and secretary mike pompeo and that will have ramifications. now that they have signed this executive order, we have already implemented visa restrictions.

they destroy the freedom in hong kong and now they have more actions at our disposal at the executive order. >> they have announced new visa restrictions on companies like walli for facilitating him rights abuses in the provinces of shandong. they set up a security camera system there, and they say unfortunately this can only begin to reverse the damage president trump has done. and reportedly, the house continues to urge president trump to stop coddling president xi and take strong strategic action to hold chinese officials accountable. and they appear to be deteriorating with network speed. what do you see morgan in response to the people of the

house. >> and in fact there is no country in the world that has taken real action to hold the chinese party accountable. last week we announced the restrictions from the state department, and that they have warned businesses about inadvertently doing businesses with one of the forced labor camps. secretary mike pompeo has made a pillar issue the past few years. and that is all based on they are the only administration in the world holding the chinese communist party available. if you remember what's going on there, reportedly forced abortions and for sterilization of women, and so we are holding china accountable for what's

happening. the second question was trying to get a reciprocal relationsh relationship. and other countries that hold it to the chinese communist party and trying to infiltrate security around the world. that is why you are saying other countries that include clean countries, our pressure campaign is working. >> john: unfortunately we are out of time. we should mention that the secretary announced new sanctions for secretaries that do business on the pipeline between russia and germany which will effectively kill that but we will have to talk about that another time.

good to see you. >> sandra: the so called to cancel culture now coming for the national anthem. a columnist calling for "the star-spangled banner" to be scrapped and replaced by another song of an entirely different nature. howie kurtz will join us on that, next. in your pockets find out more at usaa.com

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>> sandra: a columnist for the "los angeles times" is raising some eyebrows calling for the cancellation of star-spangled banner banner and replacing it with that song that you just heard, "lean on me." howie kurtz with his thoughts. >> the only argument for getting rid of "the star-spangled banner" is that it's really hard to sing and i will not attempt it. this is an absurd idea and it

reflects a left-wing view that everything in american history is somehow bad, including a song that talks about the land of the free on the home of the brave and replaces it something that sufficiently woke. i get the argument that francis scott key who wrote the anthem owned and i don't think writers should have torn down memorial in san francisco but it's the same old slippery slope case that leads to toppling the jefferson monument and blowing the washington memorial. >> he doesn't like america the beautiful or this land is your land need an alternative idea of america and americanness. obviously that's something that

is never going to happen but it does show the willingness of some people, some commentators to toss another slice of american history onto the garbage heap of history. i'm just going to say this piece is just plain off key. >> sandra: if you are going to sing, sing loudly. great to have you. >> john: thanks. fox news alert from the white house, president trump is set to receive an a law enforcement briefing on keeping the american community safe. this after another violent night in new york city. live report coming up next. (announcer) now more than ever,

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>> sandra: a live look at the white house now wired, in just a few moments, president trump is set to speak. he's holding a briefing a law enforcement and fighting crime. the president off and talking about the other big stories of the day as well, we will be see what he is talking about rebel joe biden. and that set to begin about 15 minutes from now. today another murder, one that hardened nypd detectives say is especially ugly. a millionaire's ceo brutally cut to pieces and his color is still on the run this morning. welcome back to "america's newsroom" on this wednesday morning.

i'm sandra smith. >> john: good morning to you, i am particularly gruesome. plastic bags stuffed with body parts, a power saw nearby still plugged in. so far police have not given a motive and they have not named any suspects. the gruesome prime was one of the murders in the city in the last day, eight other people were shot and two of them dead. i crime wave at gripping the city coming just as the nypd make some controversial changes. >> we don't look at a fresh new version of anticrime. we are not going to get the shooters under control. it's open season that these communities. >> aishah hasnie is live in brooklyn for us this morning where people are marching to protest the violence. good morning.

>> good morning, john. after a long delay and some very tough moments, and that was just passed over the brooklyn bridge. it took a while for us to get to this point because of some tense moments. and eventually, now this march and another night of gun violence. last week the city saw 49 shootings, that's a 246% jump compared to the same week last

year. still, no one arrested in the murder of that baby boy but video surveillance was people running away as soon as shots were fired. the mayor has blamed the effects of coronavirus and disruption to society but listen to what the sp sca president thinks. >> this what's current with the violence as they change the laws of bail reform. so there are criminals out on the street. at number one. number two, we have an antipolice atmosphere so cops are being challenged every step of the way. >> the mayor also this morning just announced a new brooklyn crime prevention plan and that increases police presence in some of the hot spots. he would sign that would go over

police unions. the occupied protesters are still camped out. >> john: we will stay in touch with you. thanks so much. >> sandra: and so what is sparking this crime surge in new york city? republicans putting the blame on some controversial state legislation like bail reform leading to this headline. g.o.p. and justice policy reversals after crime spiked. good morning to you and thanks for being here. i will leave the question open-ended to you. what is causing this crime spike in new york city? >> i think it was a couple of things, number one with the culture of lawlessness, he also can't have -- look at the mess

they've sent over the last couple of months. arson is okay, destroying public policy is okay but god forbid that you like to peter strzok or adam schiff. so it's a culture of lawlessness. i was in a criminal court room for almost two decades. there is a really limited number of people who are going to hurt you. and the best thing for you is to separate them from you. whether that be in prison or in jail awaiting trial. so if you have bail reform or bond reform you are letting people out that otherwise in the past would have been detained until their trial date. so if 95% of our fellow citizens are good people and law-abiding and people of good conscience, just identify the 5% and separate them from society, that's a way to get crime to go down. >> sandra: it's interesting depending on who you ask, that is your take. but alexandria ocasio-cortez the congresswoman from your claims this is about unemployment and

she made a lot of headlines for suggesting that this is about residents who need to shoplift some bread for their families. she's doubling down on that and the brand-new to eat and she says this. republicans are all upset that i'm connecting the dots between poverty and crime. i know most of them have an experienced or seen these issues firsthand but i have. but poverty and crime are highly linked, both violent and nonviolent alike. the response? >> was the 1-year-old holding the loaf of bread? was a 1-year-old killed her? i mean, poor people are no more likely to cause you harm than rich people are. that is not the line of the location, that is not whether you are rich or poor it's whether you are law-abiding law-abiding. since soul, it's a spike, and go

check the criminal history of the people committing these murders. see how many of them were committing their first criminal offense since the pandemic started and how many of them are the first offenders. i bet you they are not first-time offenders. >> sandra: so you are firing right back and, however, andrew cuomo, the governor of new york takes her on it says this. >> it is factually impossible that somebody committed a crime so they could pay their rent. if you can't pay your rent, you cannot be evicted right now. >> sandra: he's a democratic governor of new york and he is clearly taking a stance on that. >> i think anyone who believes in logic will take issue with

her stance. you can't be convicted in new york so how can you kill people because you are being evicted. this is a state, and a city run by democrats. so if they are having a hard time getting brighter, here is the president yesterday talking about our police department and continued calls to abolish or defund them. >> they want to abolish our prisons i guess, as populations decline. if you ensure the resources saved or invested directly into those communities. so they want to close them rather than have them for some very bad people. >> sandra: where is this country right now, trey, on this conversation, on this growing debate? we do see crime and violence biking in places like new york and other places in

new york city. >> we want to adjust the system that we expect and one that is worthy of respect and if that means getting rid of bad cops and bad crop prosecutors and bad judges then i'm all for that. but it also has to mean this is how you want people to do violence and harm us. that's 5% of the population, max. let's prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. and the notion that we are going to be safer by a getting rid of police is just a non sequitur. >> sandra: trey gowdy, we perceive your time this morning. >> fox news alert on a potentially game changing breakthrough with covid-19. there is worried that a vaccine is showing signs of promise. motor and si's early-stage human

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of november. they wear a mask outside of the home. they are grappling with how to safely reopen classrooms. later today south carolina and the city of houston is expected to release their plans while cities like atlanta, austin and san antonio have been delayed by the start, just a couple of weeks. while los angeles and san diego have decided to continue with online classes indefinitely. >> there are a lot of parents who are fortunate enough to be able to do some virtual schooling. maybe one of the parents doesn't work or works at home or has a flex schedule or whatever but there is a huge percentage of the population that does not have that ability. and so then the kids really suffer. >> on the lines, 7 million in the military personnel have been deployed to assist civilian staff at overwhelmed hospitals.

the bulk of those troops, more than 500 of them are right here in the lone star state, a record number of texans are now hospitalized with the virus and more than 10,500 patients with covid-19 here. >> john: they can't get that vaccine out fast enough. >> sandra: u.s. china relations retaliate for the beijing's treatment of hong kong. the fallout, next. plus the president and joe biden trading barbs over china. how it's playing out on the campaign trail and karl rove away on the on that just ahead. plus the president is set to speak any moment now the white house and we are watching for that, we will bring it to you when it happens. >> president trump: joe biden and president obama freely allowed china to pillage our factories, plunder our communities and still our most precious secrets.

and i have stopped it, largely, but i stopped it. only for a limited time

>> we want good things for the people of china. we have a chinese communist party that's putting freedom and democracy at risk by their expansionist and imperialist

authoritarian behavior and that is the behavior that we are trying to see changed. >> and secretary of state mike pompeo taking aim at china following up on president trump's latest action against beijing over its treatment of hong kong. the president's remarks yesterday quickly turned into a broadside against rival joe biden that went on far longer than the china announcement. for all more on all this, karl rove. you probably saw that yesterday. it looks like it turned into a campaign rally because the president has only been able to do one of those in the last few months. >> the president is stronger when he's president, that's one of the great ironies about a president running for reelection and that is that they are always stronger when they focused most of their energy and effort. imagine what it would be today, if the president have been focused only on hong kong and only on china and had made the point about what he is doing to

confront him. instead we had the 64 minute campaign event. your most powerful presence is as the president of the united states and you had the biggest megaphone in the biggest platform, the greatest ability to control the quality and content and direction of your message if you act in that way. don't use presidential events as campaign events, try to turn campaign events into presidential events. >> john: let's look at how he turned the presidential event into a campaign event, here's a few snippets from yesterday. speak to joe biden's entire career has been a gift to the chinese communist party. joe biden and president obama freely allowed china to pillage our factories, plunder our communities and steal our most precious secrets. now, joe biden is pushing a platform that would demolish the

u.s. economy, totally demolish it. >> john: at that hour-long screen against joe biden prompted one reporter to ask the president if he was worried about his reelection. what, carl, are the prospects for the president's reelection? >> let's examine that just a little bit more in detail. let's say that those things a president say about joe biden are entirely appropriate and good points. what would have happened if yesterday the president focused on what he was doing as president? today the secretary of state was up there and others were out there reaffirming what the president was doing and giving it more flesh and attention and so forth. and say later this week thursday or friday the president went to a manufacturing facility of pennsylvania, ohio or michigan and delivered a political talk about his predecessors and what they were willing and unwilling to do. this message would have been spread over several days, gotten more force of influence and more

likely heard by the american people. and then followed up by being a candidate, much stronger. he was a full-time candidate in 2016 and he has now got a full-time job and this is a difficult transition for any president. it was for president obama and it was for president bush, and if you successfully get that in your mind that you are strongest when you are using presidential events to make news and that you ought to be thinking about how you can turn campaign messages into presidential events, you come out of the process stronger. where is the president today? he is behind. he may be coming back, i think the speech at mount rushmore gave him a little bit of a pivot point but he's got a long way to go and unfortunately a lot of time to do it. this will be a very strange election. that's how coronavirus will affect the tempo, and i hope you

will read it. >> i definitely will. this is what biden said. the only word he can muster his hoax. when i think about the climate change, i think of his jobs. when donald trump thinks about renewable energy, pcs at windmills somehow causing cancer. when i think about the windmills i see american manufacturing. >> john: so biden appears to everyone so i'll give one of these big policy speeches but it's been said that the longer biden stays in the basement, the stronger he becomes because he avoids the scrutiny of the campaign trail. and then he's like, sorry, i have to go. >> the president has been put at

a disadvantage by biden hiding out at the rec room, and i think absolutely and in different parts of states and regions. and that's the key lieutenants. but again, how do you handle that. there was an attack made by biden and he talked about his $2 trillion green new deal, and the response ought to have been, the campaign ought to have been in my opinion ready to respond by sending out the vice president and saying, you know what? the idea that you are going to shut down every natural gas power plants, every oil, and we

have less carbon federal land and federal waters. that would have been far more effective than putting the burden on all of the president of united states. >> john: at the fact that tommy tuberville one yesterday, it does not prove that the president still has coattails? >> sure. and another trump endorsement who came from behind on this today, seven votes ahead. the president demonstrated his ability in republican primaries to pull people across the finish line. >> we will see how that goes. karl rove, always good to see you, thanks so much. and i will be reading your column tomorrow.

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>> that's right. there are two separate covid outbreaks with over 130 marines, almost a full company have been infected. today japan's defense minister weighed in. >> we have very strong concern about this, with a very secure environment. >> as a result marines are not allowed to leave their two bases, putting them on lockdown. the top aide to the prime minister said he was pleased with the response.

an end in recent days, they will be tested for covid-19. quarantine for 14 days and must pass the second test with negative results prior to being released from quarantine. now for contacts in japan and tested positive and none have died. >> president trump: you should find themselves in that positi position, they are dying because

i can't do what they are doing. mothers can't go to work because all of a sudden, they have to stay home and watch their child and fathers. >> president trump with officials in los angeles for a decision to keep classrooms close to this fall. many schools throughout the country are pushing back against the president's pressure to reopen for in person learning. ernie duncan is the former education secretary under president obama and he joins us now. good morning, thanks for being here. it's surely a debate that is firing up. the current education secretary betsy devos joined us on this program and she said kids needed to get back into in person learning in the fall. what is your recommendation? >> obviously everybody once they are back in school including our parents, we can only do that if it is to do so.

schools are bubbles but not islands and we see communications where the virus is spiking and it's unsafe for children, for staff, teachers, and it breaks my heart to be honest. but the fact that as a country we have failed to do what we needed to do in march, april, may and june means now in july that school districts are having to debate whether or not it's safe to bring children back. with that discipline we haven't paid attention to science, we do not have to be in this position and unfortunately right now this is a man-made disaster. >> sandra: we just had dr. scott atlas on from stanford health who is head of the nero department there and he said this is absurd. we have reached a ludicrous level of hysteria. he said kids don't spread the disease and it doesn't affect them, there's lots of science that backs up the kids don't transfer this to adults when it

comes to concern over our teachers. so what science are you specifically relying on to say that it's unsafe, say and a hot spot zone, to get kids back into the classroom? >> again, schools aren't bubbles. schools exist within their broader communities and when you see cases spiking, that's not a safe place for kids to be. we have children who may be asymptomatic but they may be carriers. if they are going home and being raised by grandma or grandfather or a parent, we can't put them in that position. so the best thing we can do, we all say we care about kids and we care about education, we want our kids to go back to school on the best thing that we can do right now in july is reduce the number of cases in our community and our states to give the children a chance. >> not sure how many times he's

had to say this. he said this on multiple interviews this week alone. the fatality is nearly zero and to your point about going home and sending it to grandma, he said science backs up that that is not a valid concern. so what are you seeing? we need to dig deeper into this conversation, other than we need to send them back. it has to be safe and we need to social distance and wear a mask. so what social data are you relying on? >> it's not just children, it's children with adults. we have to reduce the number of cases in communities where you see states opening up too fast. what happened? it had to close back down. this is not an on and off

switch. let me be clear, the goal is not -- the goal is to keep schools open. that re-traumatizes the kids. >> sandra: let me -- i have so much i want to get to, but i have so much to get to. margaret spellings who also shares the same role as you in the past was on this program earlier and she was looking at the bigger risk if we don't get kids back into the classroom. listen. >> we are giving the lack of learning a short trip in this discussion. our students are going to suffer lifetime learning loss and lifetime economic loss if we don't get them back on track and working productively. some of that can be done online and some of that can be done in person but our students need to be back, engage productively and learning accurately. >> sandra: she says the discussion over not getting those dumb back in school, the

dent to our education for our kids in this country. >> secretary spellings and i come up we put out our own guidance which you may have seen recently because of the lack of leadership at the federal level. she has been a great, great partner and our children definitely need to be back in school. going back to april and may, i wanted to bring as many as we cut back to school in july to make up for the learning that we lost due to covid. as a country we have lacked the discipline to do the right thing for kids and i found actually at that point looking back i was naive, i was hopeful. they had september not so far behind in this nation as a set of adults, we have failed our children. >> sandra: has this decision gotten political? federal leadership at the top guiding us through this, are you concerned that the decision to educate our kids and get them

back has gotten to political? become not at all. i'm talking local leadership across the country, and it all they want to do is educate their kids as best they can and they want to continue to feed them. they want to take care of their social and emotional needs and they want to make sure that their health and safety is a primary concern. >> sandra: and the president points fingers on the heads of those states that need to make the decision, and they are looking for guidance at the state level and the local level, because after a lot of those districts decisions have to be made. arnie duncan, we hope you come back soon because it looks like this is not going away anytime soon. >> john: the family of fort hood soldier vanessa guillen who was found dead after she went missing will meet with president trump.

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>> john: a warning about what's at stake for voters in the 2020 "wall street journal" adding "the biden tax hike would be severe if the democrats eat, i can sweep in november. make sure your lawyer and financial advisors are standing by. joining us now is or john garamendi who serves on the house armed services committee. the op-ed also went on to quote the nonpartisan tax foundation saying, the biden tax plan would reduce the size of the economy by about one and a half over the long run and lowering after-tax income for all income quintiles, not exactly a ringing endorsement in the biden plan. >> it's got a lot of suppositions about what exactly mr. biden is suggesting. at the moment there is no specific tax plan out there although he has said very

clearly that his economic plan will be paid for. we do know that the republicans, without any hearings whatsoever managed to reduce taxes on corporations and the wealthiest 1% of americans by about $1.2 trillion. 83% of the trillion and a half dollar tax cut went to the major corporation and to the top 1%. clearly, biden is looking at that particular part so perhaps those 6,000 people might be that wealthy 1% of the american economy. right now there is no specific plan out there. we do know that he has a very serious buy america, make it in america, agenda, which predates trump by seven or eight decades, most specifically for over five years when we begin the agenda.

>> john: "the wall street journal" did some calculations based on what he's talking about, and under biden's proposals that would jump to 25%. a couple or a person who is making $30,000 off of social security and $36,000 and other income would be in a 46% tax bracket even though they are in, income wise, a 25% tax bracket. so how does that help middle-class people? >> biden has said it very clearly that his economic plan is to benefit american workers. the people that you just described are those workers and i can assure you that the tax plan when it is presented and when it is completed will not tax those people. that's simply not where he has is headed. his program is to benefit the american workers.

that leaves out the previous tax cut that was made by the republicans as they ran that through in the closing days. so i'm not sure where you are getting those numbers but, joe biden has been very, very clear. he's looking at the 2017 tax cut which did go 83% of the trillion at half dollars which is about $1.2 trillion went to american corporations and foreign corporations as well as to the top 1%. that's where he intends to go. now he simply not going to go there. >> john: and the minute that we have left, another issue that's being raised is where should joe biden campaign and where should he put his campaign dollars? should he stick to the battleground states or should he try to go for a knockout blow and play in places like texas, georgia, ohio, and missouri?

what do you think, go for the knockout or just flip three that could get him there? >> he clearly needs to go to the magic number and where those magic numbers are to be found are in various states. we are still three months away from the election, and that will still be determined in the weeks ahead as this campaign more completely develops and as we see where the american public is going, it's clear the american public has lost confidence in the president. now, does that mean that texas is in clay? that's a big leap. is it wise to go there? well let's see where we are in november, let's see where we are towards october 1st. right now go to where you can get those votes and we do know there are key states in play. pennsylvania has one of them, the upper midwest. those states are clearly in play and we will see what happens in the months ahead.

right now, joe biden is doing exceptionally well and his economic plan which we have been discussing is going to lead the day because it is solid, it's based upon the reality that week can grow the american economy. thank you very much, we look forward to talking to you again. >> john: fox news alert, we are learning that the governor of oklahoma has tested positive for covid-19. governor kevin stitt said he is isolating at home and the republican governor has backed one of the country's most aggressive reopening plans and has resisted any statewide mandate on masts. we will have more on this as we get it. we will bring it to you. we will be right back. - [narrator] the shark vacmop combines powerful suction with spray mopping to lock away debris and absorb wet messes, all in one disposable pad.

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that's a live look at the white house right now. he is receiving a law enforcement briefing. he spoke just a short time ago, and here is the president at the white house just a few moments ago. listen. >> president trump: thank you very much. we have a very important announcement and we are going to state some facts and things that have happened recently and are very positive in terms of crime and crime prevention. we will have another announcement next week, in of the fbi and left-wing group of people that are running our cities are not doing their job that they are doing and it's not a very tough job to do. we will be talking about that next week and probably have an announcement as to what we are planning to do to help them. they are supposed to be asking for help and they don't want to ask so maybe they are proud or maybe they think it's bad politically but we can't have

have been what's happening. we are here today to provide an update, we are trying to destroy ms-13, a violent evil gang of people. we have an arrest and indictment leading to the rest of dozens of savage ms-13 members and leaders all across the country so this is something that's taken place over the last few days. i want to thank attorney general barr for doing a great job in many ways, many ways, not just here, but acting security general welfare and fbi director will be joining us today and discussing a little bit about what we are doing and where we have been going. ms-13 has been a problem for a long time and we've taken them out by the thousands. while radical left-wing politicians try to open borders, my administration has fought for a safe streets. we want security of our people,

we want the rule of law and order. in the last three years, ice has deported over 16,000 gang members and arrested over 2,000 members of ms-13. think of those numbers. there are over 2,000 members of ms-13 and also deported a number of them out of our country. this week's actions by the joint task force is the most recent offense to -- this has been a big offensive in the world of foreign gangs when we came into this of administration and said what's going on. we had gangs from countries that you wouldn't believe. more than 20 of the criminals we indicted and arrested in the past seven days were illegal aliens. yesterday for the first time ever the eastern district of virginia, thank you very much, indicted ms-13 leaders on charges of terrorism. so we have the ms-13 leader on charges of terrorism, and that's

first, correct? using terrorism which gives us extra for strength. ms-13 leaders have been indicting our charges including murder, kidnapping and drug trafficking. the delay has announced it will seek the blood don't like death penalty for the bloodthirsty leader responsible for the despicable killing of seven americans including two teenage grouthe girls. the doj has made several arrests at high levels in these cases including several immigration arrests and i want to think chad will for working along with the fbi and with the attorney general. they worked very closely together at the border in the border, as you know, is setting new records for allowing people in that are allowed allowing people in illegally. we believe the monsters that murder children should be put to death. we seem to have quite a good

agreement on that. these people murdered children and they do it as slowly and viciously as possible. we will not allow these animals to terrorize their communities, and my administration will not rest until every member of ms-13 is brought to justice. we've done a great job with ms-13 but now we are stepping it up even to a higher level. this has never happened before. there's never been any move like this before. much of it has already taken place, otherwise he wouldn't be talking about it. so, when biden and the radical left want open borders for ms-13 and others, we want strong borders. we want, as i've said, borders. without borders, you don't have a country, and we have a great country, and it's coming back stronger than ever from job numbers to every other number. it's coming back stronger than ever before. we're going to have a great third quarter, we are going to have a great fourth quarter, and next year is going to be one of the strongest years economically we've ever had. i'm going to ask ag barr to see

if you words about the ms-13 and what we've done what we're doing, where you plan to go, and next week you're going to have, i think, very exciting news conference, because we'll be talking about some of the cities where the democrats running them have just lost control of the cities. it will be very interesting. bill, please. >> when i came into the department as attorney general, the president made it clear that one of his top priorities is to reduce violent crime in the united states, to destroy ms-13 in the united states. what we have been in here discussing with the president is part of that effort, which is a project vulcan, or task force vulcan, which is targeting the higher level players in the ms-13 operations in the united states. ms-13 is somewhat unique in this sense. they have the street savagery that you would see in a gang, it is not driven by commercial interests the way, for example,

the mafia traditionally was. it's about honor of being the most savage, bloodthirsty person you can be, and building up a reputation as a killer. this, in some ways, is a death cult. and they use the terror that they cause by their savagery to extort, and they've gotten increasingly into human trafficking and now narcotics trafficking. but that's a sideline, to some extent, to the basic purpose, which is violence. terrorizing people. also, unlike a street gang, they are highly organized as a transnational organization. they operate with hierarchy, with programs. they call them programs. think of it as a crime family, essentially. and under each program they have different cliques. their center of gravity is in central america. there are thousands that have come at the united states illegally.

they are virtually all illegal aliens. they come in now through -- although it's harder to get across the border, but traditionally they've come across the border into houston and then fanned out across the united states into different centers of activity. today, we were talking with the president about three actions we took. diaz was indicted in the eastern district of virginia. first time we've used terrorism charges against a member of ms-13. he was responsible for activities in 13 states, 20 speech 20 cliques in the united states. he would also green light assassinations in the united states. the orders come from el salvador, or the request to assassinate would go down to el salvador and he would green light the hit. we also took down an