adolescence. >> i was severely depressed and it just kept getting more severe as i got older. >> there are a lot of ways to relieve pain, mental pain, we should use that and focus on the least invasive first option. >> how long should a doctor wait before intervening? what should the intervention be and how much therapy is required first? the answers to these questions remain a big debate in the medical community, bill and dana. >> bill: thank you, doctor. >> dana: fox news alert. two days to go under the title 42 border policy is set to expire. border officials and lawmakers warn it will make the ongoing migrant crisis worse than it already is. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. good morning again. >> bill: nice christmas red. >> dana: matching the

poinsettias. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. the policy allowing agents to quickly expel asylum seekers expires in two days. once it happens 9,000 to 15,000 migrants could cross every day. >> dana: border communities are already stretched very thin. this video shows extreme overcrowding inside a border patrol facility in el paso, texas. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle say the white house must have a plan to address the end of title 42. >> we're asking for the $3 billion or so mainly for food and shelter, processing, transportation, but it doesn't talk about security. >> there is really no way our state or any other state can deal with the consequences of the title 42. we're in for a horrific problem that the biden administration has invited and created. >> if you get rid of title 42 the department of homeland

security and biden administration better have a darn good plan right away to make up for the plan you are getting rid of. >> bill: former vice president mike pence is live in studio and we'll talk with him soon. bill melugin is in eagle pass, texas as the clock runs. >> the mayor of el paso decided to declare a state of emergency over the weekend saying he felt the need to do so because he has concerns about public safety because of how overwhelmed the city is now with the migrant crisis and now we're finally getting a look at how overwhelmed border patrol is in el paso. look at the images given to us by a congressman gonzalez showing extreme overcrowding in el paso. he shot this video on friday. the capacity for that facility is 1,000 people. he says when he was there, there were 4,600 migrants in federal

custody. more than quadruple what the capacity is supposed to be. people are sleeping all over the floors. men, women, children, family units completely over capacity because the el paso sector has been getting more than 2,000 illegal crossings every day. border patrol facilities completely overwhelmed and so are the local shelters and why hundreds of migrants have been released to city streets every single day. then we'll bring you to eagle pass. look at the brand-new thermal drone footage our team shot early this morning just after sunrise in the rainy weather. illegal migrants this morning. the consistency is constant out here. we are seeing these massive groups every single morning in eagle pass going back to the springtime. i have spent more than 130 days in eagle pass this year and we see that sometimes multiple times every morning and it feels like every single day. most of the people who cross here are single adults who are

expecting to be released into the united states after they are processed by border patrol. lastly we'll take you out to know arizona? there were six fentanyl busts at the port of entry totaling 1 million fentanyl pills, 22 pounds of fentanyl powder and 74 pounds of meth. this port of entry is constantly seeing huge fentanyl busts multiple times a week. over the weekend the white house released a statement where they essentially said anybody who is claiming that the border is open or that it is going to be open after title 42 drops is not only peddling misinformation they're doing the job of smugglers. >> bill: bill melugin starting it off on monday. >> dana: i want to bring you a story of an afghan ally seeking

asylum in the united states. our military trained ab dull to be an elite special forces commando. he went into hiding after kabul fell and traveled across two continents to get to the u.s. he is now sitting in a texas prison facing deportation back to kabul. his brother sammy joins us now. he is a former afghan translator for u.s. troops and here in the united states on a special immigrant visa. glad to have you here and sorry for what you are going through. i have a few questions. how much danger was your brother in from the taliban once the united states had the chaotic withdrawal last august? >> thank you so much for having me on your show. after the collapse of afghanistan it was very hard for my brother to survive and not be captured by taliban. i had a lot of nonprofit organizations basically feeding

me information on which routes to avoid in order to not to be captured by taliban. so my brother had to go in hiding from one place to another, and finally he was in the place where there was nowhere to hide. his friends were being captured and killed. so he called me from afghanistan and told me that there is no way he can hide anywhere because taliban put out a news that if you see someone new in the village, in the area, inform. if you don't, you are part of his punishment. so my brother knew that if he was captured, he would be killed immediately just like so many other afghan special forces who were captured and killed. >> dana: so he decides to try to get to the united states to safety. and he crosses with many other

migrants at our southern border, is that correct? >> so he comes to the very country he fought alongside men and women in uniform. he was expecting that he would come to america, prove his identity and he will receive a hero welcome. but unfortunately it was total different to him when he arrived to the border. first he had to pass all the countries from brazil making it to united states and basically going through all types of torture. all types of -- >> dana: he -- your brother said the police in panama torched him

and script him naked and through insect repellent on his wounds and called him a terrorist. as i understand the reporting said he crossed with about at least 100 other migrants and every one of those other migrants were released into the united states but your brother is in prison? tell me about that. >> absolutely. so he came to united states border not knowing where the entry point is. so he came with hundred plus migrants when everybody else was released but him was basically taken to another custody by border patrol where he was being interrogated, investigated and basically he received the worst treatment that he was never expecting from a country that he

fought alongside. >> dana: i hear you. let me ask you something. have you heard anything from the administration, the federal administration who would be able to provide a visa or get this situation resolved? i'm curious if you've heard from the department of homeland security, secretary mayokas or lloyd austin or antony blinken or the white house itself? >> unfortunately no one has contacted me. i have reached out to congressmen, congresswomen in texas and i have reached out to everyone i could basically i have been ignored by so many. >> dana: what would you like to say to president biden right now, the commander-in-chief of the united states? >> i would like to basically send a message to him saying my

brother fought alongside the same troops you deployed to afghanistan. and now he is facing deportation. the people that come to the borders without any vetting, they are being released but my brother comes with a background, a clear background that he fought alongside the same troops that you gave the mission to go to afghanistan and free afghanistan from the terrorists that are now in power. he deserves recognition for his service, not to be in prison and not to be tortured by a country that he stood alongside. he fought alongside. >> dana: all right, sammy.

we are going to get that message out there and we'll stay on top of this story. thank you for telling us everything that's going on and we'll be in touch. thank you. >> thank you so much for having me. >> dana: you bet, sammy. >> bill: very important message there. he will not be forgotten. holiday season in full swing. so is the tripledemic. cases of flu, covid, rsv spreading across the kron k untree. flu numbers at a high in new york city. advising people to mask up on the subways, schools, stores. alexis mcadams is out on the streets to tell us how it's going. >> as you saw this weekend slammed out here. a lot of people on the subways. people we talked to say because masks are optional in the state of new york and city of new york they aren't going to mask up even though they are now being urged to. >> absolutely not. i feel that it hurts our immune

systems rather than -- now you see everybody getting sick with the flu because our immune systems are down. no masks. >> the mask advisory comes as hospital, bill, are busy taking care of patients sick with flu, covid and rsv. the tripledemic doctors have warned about for weeks. at least 15 million people have been sick with the flu so far this season. leading to 150,000 hospitalizations and more than 9,000 deaths. that spike in illnesses coming just in time for the busy holiday season. here is a look at how the number of flu cases across the country have skyrocketed over the past several weeks. since october 8th nearly every state has gone from minimal to low numbers to high or very high. you can see that color change there. every state except alaska has moderate to high numbers of flu cases. as the viruses continue to

spread the school district in philadelphia will require students to mask up. live as cases climb it is not just new york that wants to add masks, la is also urging their people to mask up who live there. they didn't make a mask mandate. >> bill: thanks, chilly day in new york city. nice to have you. >> dana: okay. we're tracking a potentially devastating winter storm that could could have a major impact on christmas travel in the air and on the ground. the latest forecast ahead. plus this. >> it's very difficult to defend one self against these kind of charges from prison. from jail. it is doubly hard to do so if you are in a foreign country. >> bill: crypto boss is changing course on when the key aspect of his defense. what it might mean in a case that could land him in jail for 115 years. whoa. >> dana: and he was the latest man standing on the 43rd season of survivor and now donating all

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>> bill: moments ago disgraced ftx founder sam bankman-fried will agree to be expedited to the u.s. it means he would come to new york city. that's fresh video just in from the bahamas. he was arrested last week on fraud and money laundering charges. want to bring in charlie gasparino. >> it is a rough judicial system and they don't serve vegan food.

i think -- there is a process to extradite somebody. it looks like the bah hamian government is cooperating with the u.s. government's request to extradite him. in about a month he will be here and probably in the same lockup that jeffrey epstein killed himself in in downtown manhattan. a federal lockup. and then the trial begins and we'll see what happens. his defense is what he has been touting. it kind of makes no sense because again we use the analogy if you set up a tv station, charge ad revenue and don't have any cameras, that's negligence, right? you need cameras to transmit tv signals so the advertising pays off. this guy created a financial company without any controls. it was gross negligence. >> bill: where was the government on that?

should it have been on that? >> that's a great question. it comes down a little bit to the securities and exchange commission and the chairman who i write about. a controversial figure. in all sorts of stuff. changing market structure that probably doesn't need to be changed. he met with sam bankman-fried since 2021 twice. twice according to his calendars. he may have had other meetings with him that didn't appear on the calendar. public calendar shows two meetings. one was sam bankman-fried pitching a crypto exchange going through the process of getting sec approval before he blew up. we know that. okay? there is a logical question on gary beginsler. the other half he has been touting crypto needs more regulation. that's the good part of him. the bad part is didn't he think twice about this one guy? did he get any tips?

did it fly under the radar screen while you were meeting him and your people were meeting with him? my guess is the republicans when they take control, there will be another hearing on this whole blowup and he will be called to that hearing and asked that question specifically from what i understand. >> dana: in your reporting since last week have you learned anything more about why the government decided to file the indictment before he was able to testify in front of congress? >> listen, i know there are a lot of conspiracy theories. if he went before congress -- people make decent cases he could have doug himself in a deeper hole but what will we really get out of that? there was so much pressure on the u.s. attorney's office to indict him, i don't think he was going to add that much more to the debate. >> dana: he had already talked a lot. >> did you read his testimony prepared remarks? it was fantastical in terms of how he laid out the whole thing

and tried to exonerate himself from intent. so i just think they thought how many more times do we need this guy speaking? we got the case. >> bill: that may be. he gave a lot of money to political organizations. gave a lot to money to democrats. >> gave some money to republicans. >> bill: it wasn't $40 million. >> he gave money to biden specifically. given the allegations around potential campaign violations a return of $850,000 in contributions since 2020. we will return as soon as we receive proper direction and legal procedures. that is a fraction of what he gave. >> it's a fraction of what he gave biden. i want to know why joe biden isn't returning the $10 million. maybe more than that. the president is side stepping that question. i know the press secretary has been asked that and she dances

around it. this is a really embarrassing situation for government in so many ways. he definitely greased the wheels throughout government. his parents were high rolling influencers in the democratic party no doubt. he met at the highest levels of government. as i said the s.e.c. chairman met with him twice. we know maxine waters, who runs the house financial services committee, was shown with her arm around him essentially taking pictures after i guess she got some money. they blew him a conkiss, is tha true? that is embarrassing. you'll hear calls about regulation. we need more regulation. i'm sure the s.e.c. will say that. this is theft. that's always been a crime. you steal, you go to jail for a long time. which is where he is heading, i think. >> bill: charlie, thank you. >> dana: thanks for being here.

>> bill: appreciate it. >> dodging the flu. >> dana: the end of title 42 border restrictions days away. two of the biggest cartels are looking to cash in when that happens. our next guest is weighing a run for a 2024 white house. former vice president mike pence on the board, his political future and the future of the republican party next.

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>> bill: so two of the world's largest and most dangerous cartels already making billions of dollars smuggling people across the southern border and the drugs. they see a bigger payday once the title 42 border policy expires in 48 hours. rich edson on that reports the news in washington, d.c. rich, hello. >> good morning, bill. cartels control significant stretches along the southern border smuggling migrants and drugs into the united states with title 42 ending soon, it allows certain migrants to be expelled at the border. when that expires former federal

officials say there will be a situation where you have a number of cartels bringing migrants across the border in one area, that's taking resources away from border officials allowing drugs to go smuggled in other parts of the border. congressional aides say once title 42 ends the administration expects up to 15,000 migrant crossings a day, double the rate over the last couple of years. the dea has said most illegal drugs come across hidden in bulk loads on trucks driving through legal border crossings. the white house maintains it is working to confront this expected surge and the cartels that would exploit it, specifically with the dea focusing on the two cartels. >> i'm concerned about the increase in illegal migration, concerned with human smuggling, i'm concerned with drug smuggling. the dea has taken an approach where they are -- have established two counter threat

teams. this is the kind of approach you take to organizations that pose a national security threat. we're using intelligence and cyber means, we're using informants. we're using data to map the network and then attack it at all points along the supply chain. >> with the end of title 42 texas state law enforcement says they are preparing for an increase in drug smuggling especially fentanyl and methamphetamine. bill, back to you. >> bill: rich edson in washington, d.c., thank you. >> dana: let's bring in former vice president mike pence whose book "so help me god" is available now. lots of news on this monday morning. merry christmas and thank you for being here. we just did a story, an interview with a gentleman whose -- special immigrant visa holder from afghanistan, his brother was trained by us to be an elite forces commando. he is being held in a price on making it through the southern

border. he would like to tell president biden this, his brother. >> the people that come to the borders without any vetting, they are being released. but my brother comes with a background, a clear background. he deserves recognition for his service, not to be in prison and not to be tortured by a country that he stood alongside. >> dana: wonder what you think about this. you take the afghanistan withdrawal chaos, the problems that we have at the border, it is a confluence of ineptitude resulting in this man being in prison. >> it is a confluence of ineptitude. to think about a heroic afghan soldier who risked his and his family's life to stand with our soldiers and having to go to south america to join the

massive movement north of the border and he is the one we put in jail when he crosses the border. it really is extraordinary. i hope the administration is watching and moves quickly to remedy that situation with him. we owe a debt of honor and gratitude to every one of the afghan soldiers that stood with the brave men and women that fought in afghanistan on our behalf over those 20 years. let me tell you, i was down to the border twice over the last year and the most jarring thing that i heard more than nine months ago was that the cartels are in operational control of our border today. literally i stood in cochise county at a section of the border where on day one president biden ended construction of the border wall and so you see all these girders laid out in the sun shine rusting in the sunshine. 100 yards across the border you could see a lookout nest of the

cartels. they decide who comes in and the crisis in el paso this week tells you all you need to know. >> bill: other people see that. why the rest of the media hasn't been reporting on this until the last week. when the biden administration came in there was thinking they wanted to do the opposite of you and former president donald trump did. and maybe it was you won't do daca and we'll allow this to happen or the border policies of separating families so we'll do the opposite of that. can you help us understand why the administration has been so -- you could call it inept or you could call it a refusal to do something. >> i don't call it inept. it is operating exactly as those that advocate open borders want it to operate. we ended illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90% under a combination of a border wall, internal enforcement, the remain

in mexico policy that i negotiated on the president's behalf with mexican officials, and title 42 that we put into effect in those early days of the covid pandemic. the combination of those things ended the crisis at our border but when joe biden took office and the open borders crowd was in the saddle in congress and white house, they got rid of all of that and the crisis happened. >> bill: how did they benefit from open borders? >> i would leave that -- i don't like speculating on people's motives. i'm somebody believes that a nation without borders is not a nation. my hope is seeing 15,000 people come in in a single week in el paso. having the democrat mayor of el paso declare a state of emergency might just jar this administration into holding off on undoing title 42, which was incredibly effective under our

administration. and for heavens sakes the remain in mexico policy was just common sense. president trump made it clear there would be consequences if mexico did not step up and agree to allow people to wait in mexico when they applied for asylum. we stood firm and we accomplished that. we can secure our border and end this crisis with good leadership. >> dana: the one thing they're focused on is the january 6th committee. they say they have enough evidence, they say, sufficient evidence to charge president trump. here is adam schiff, the democrat from california, on that. >> i think that the evidence the there that donald trump committed criminal offenses in connection with his efforts to overturn the election. viewing it as a former prosecutor, i think there is sufficient evidence to charge the president. >> dana: there has been a build-up to this moment. what do you think of it? >> well, i've said many times having lived through that day at the capitol, dana. january 6th was a tragic day.

but thanks to the courage of law enforcement the violence was quelled and finished our work under the constitution the same day. but i must tell you from early on i have been disappointed in the partisan nature of the select committee on capitol hill. to have a committee that was literally appointed in its entirety by the democrat speaker of the house really violates the history and tradition of the congress of the united states. you may not remember in 2007, i was the ranking member on a select committee that looked into voting irregularities. we had proper representation of all political parties and they were all allowed to ask questions of witnesses. we produced a report at the end. and this select committee from the very beginning has represented kind of a partisan

taint that i think it's one of the reasons why so few americans are paying much attention to what will happen today or to the results or recommendations of this committee. >> bill: let me just -- if you feel that way and answered it that way you don't believe it should be a criminal case that should be referred to the department of justice. is that what you are saying? >> i wrote this in my book how many times adam schiff said that there was evidence of collusion with russia, 2 1/2 years we listened to adam schiff talk about evidence that he had seen that was never there. let me be very clear about this point. congress has no formal role in justice department decisions. they can make recommendations today. but when it comes to the justice department's decision about bringing charges in the future, i would hope that they would not bring charges against the former president. i don't -- look, as i wrote in

my book, i think the president's actions and words on january 6th were reckless. but i don't know that it is criminal to take bad advice from lawyers and so i hope the justice department is careful. >> dana: we'll see on that. >> i want to say i hope the justice department understands the magnitude and the very idea of indicting a former president of the united states. i think that would be terribly divisive in the country at a time when the american people want to see us heal. at this time of year we're all thinking about the most important things in our lives, our faith, family and my hope is the justice department will think very carefully. >> dana: your whole family will be together. all the family is getting together for the first time in three years and that's very exciting. you wrote the book, we have read that you are considering your future political. this headline today in

"politico." pence has a huge problem. struggling to find his path back to the white house. would you make a decision after the holidays if you would get in for the presidency. if not the presidency would you be open to running in the senate seat in indiana? >> i tell you, i had the privilege of serving in congress in the house of representatives. governor of indiana and vice president of the united states. my family is going the take time over this holiday season when we're all together for the first time in three years to give prayerful consideration to where we might next step forward to serve our country. but for us it's always about a calling. if you read my book, dana, you will find early in my political career i allowed my ambition to get ahead of my christian faith, what i thought my faith required of me in the public square. but the last 20 years it has been about a calling and about trying to respond to that call. so we are going to listen to one

another, pray and continue to listen to the american people and sometime in the course of the next year we'll be able to discern that and -- >> dana: is it a possibility snow >> i served as president of the senate for four years. i would tell you the extraordinary experiences we have had in our life, the response that we've gotten to telling our story in my book "so help me god" and encouragement around the country has us thinking of one more season of service. that's the one we're focused on. >> bill: we'll put you down as a maybe. >> dana: i took it as a no. yes for the possible white house run but a no for the senate run. >> i think if we were ever to step forward to serve the american people, it would be to take all the experience we've had and run for national office and -- but i'm humbled to be

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>> bill: the new congress takes over in two weeks. democrats wondering whether or not joe manchin might jump ship. josh, we have something for everybody. up first joe manchin and democrats. he said this on sunday on cbs face the nation. >> if people are trying to stop something from doing so much good thinking somebody else will get credit. let's see how it plays out and let you know later. right now i have no intentions of changing anything.

>> bill: you believe him. you think he is staying put where he is. >> i do. look, the reality, bill, is that joe manchin has always been an independent senator. he doesn't really need to change parties to prove that point. i think what this is more about, bill, is that joe manchin voted for the inflation reduction act. there are a lot of clean energy, green provisions in that bill that aren't popular in a very conservative energy-rich state like west virginia. joe manchin is up for re-election in 2024. he will have a tough race if he runs for re-election and trying to show he is more independent but look, the democratic party in west virginia is the one democratic party where joe manchin is conservative enough he can still win the nomination. he is just trying to signal to voters back home that he still is the independent joe manchin they all have grown used to. >> bill: something to watch. for republicans "wall street journal" takes a heavy shot. editorial board.

the gop dysfunction in selection won't matter. the only chance is to stay united. republicans are the began that couldn't shoot straight except at one another, end quote. what do you make of that? >> republicans won the house majority. you would think -- even though they didn't get the wave they were expecting you would think they could celebrate they're back in power. you have at least five house republicans, maybe more, that are trying to destroy the party's majority and try to create chaos even before the new year in these votes for kevin mccarthy's speakership take place. this is a real problem. republicans the end to have a real ability to shoot themselves in the foot and not unify. it's not a good omen for 2023. >> do you think kevin mccarthy is speaker and then it blows

over? >> look, if those -- i think those five republicans who claim they won't vote for mccarthy will try to hold out for as many concessions as possible. but there really isn't another logical alternative. if there is another alternative to mccarthy someone more moderate, not more conservative. i think eventually mccarthy will get the votes. >> bill: a lot to look forward to. josh with a lowdown. democrats and republicans. thank you. dana. >> dana: when giving is better than winning. why the last man standing in the reality show survivor decided to donate his million dollars in prize money. he joins us next. oh man. always look for the grown in idaho seal. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future.

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ability to persevere. she is doing a lot of great things with her charity. now you have this great opportunity. tell us about that. >> absolutely. noel is a total hero and inspired me and everybody else out there the entire time we were there. we'll do some things together. she is too powerful of a persona and too big of a person doing too much good in this world not to partner with. don't be surprised if you see us doing things together for born the run, her charity, in the future. you bet. >> dana: what do you hope the prize money does for veterans. what is your biggest concerns for the challenges they face? >> you know, "survivor" was an amazing adventure, a special time. i got so much out of it for myself and my family and friends and to be able to do something important with the prize money is just icing on top of the cake. there is no patient population that need more help, i believe,

than veterans out there. they reflect 1% protect the 99% of us. to be able to give back and help them is something that makes me very, very happy and they need it. you know, when they come home a lot of them don't come all the way home. they deal with traumatic brain injuries or ptsd. taking a million dollars and putting it towards them to help get them all the way home will be powerful. >> bill: you did not serve but a lot of people in your family and friends did. kudos to you. mike, this show is so popular. been running for years. tell our audience something we would not know from a contestant. >> first of all, if anybody is unsure, it is real. i lost 38 pounds out there. i went in there at 200 pounds and came out at 162. you know, as hard as it is, it is that much fun, too.

jeff and the producers of "survivor" go all out. they know we're all fans out there. they take good care of us. it is an amazing experience. if you are at home thinking about going on that show, i turned 50. i'm huge fan of "survivor" and put in an addition -- audition tape. if i can do it, you can, too. >> bill: have fun in boise, hide hoe. >> harris: we begin an an inside look at the nation's southern border. extreme overcrowding in el paso, texas. it is built to hold 1,000 people. but the actual number there right now 4,600. four times plus the amount of people who are supposed to be in that federally-provided facility. a border state congressman