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you can e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews or you can text us at hlntv, start your message with the word prime. your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome once again. this is "prime news." first breaking news in the death investigation concerning michael jackson. court documents just into us show the king of pop had lethal levels of the drug propofol in his blood. this is a highly potent drug that's used to knock out patients for surgery. this new information on jackson is based on the los angeles county coroner's preliminary report. the coroner's office gave us no comment on the official cause of death. now, a source close to the investigation has told cnn jackson's personal doctor conrad murray gave him propofol within 24 hours of his death. could he be facing criminal charges and soon? as always, we take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln. let's bring in randi kaye from

our sister network cnn. she's been all over this. what do we have in this document? we're really getting a timeline here. >> we certainly are, mike. we have the search warrant here just filed today, just made public in houston. just getting my hands on it going through it. i can tell you as you know the headline out of it is that the coroner's office has determined that at the time of his death, i'm quoting here from the document, toxicology analysis showed that michael jackson had lethal levels of propofol in his blood. for those of you who might not be familiar, it's also known as diprivan. it's not supposed to be used outside of a hospital setting. it requires monitoring. it involves oxygen thanks. it's very critical that it be used only inside a hospital in a surgery setting. apparently, according to these documents that we have, this affidavit of a search warrant, dr. conrad murray stated to detectives that he was michael jackson's personal physician and that he did administer several drugs to jackson in the early

morning hours of june 25th, which as you know is the day that michael jackson died. and at approximately 11:00 in the morning, he told police that that's when michael stopped breathing. i can tell you dr. murray admitted to police he administered 25 milligrams of propofol along with lidocaine, to michael jackson through an iv drip. now, we know that michael jackson was taking a lot of drugs. this comes to us from a lot of sources. getting. he told detebbuttives he injected low raz pam. at 3:00 a.m., michael still awake. he tried giving him mydazolam

the 25 milligrams of the propofol after jackson repeatedly demanded that drug. now, mike something else i want to point out. he said after approximately ten minutes, dr. murray said that he left jackson's side to go to the restroom and relieve himself. this is the first time we're getting new information about him leaving michael's room. he told police he was out of the room for about two minutes maximum, according to these documents and upon his return, he noticed that michael jackson was no longer breathing. one last point, apparently dr. murray said that he was not the first doctor to give jackson propofol. he apparently told authorities that jackson was very familiar with this drug and in fact, he referred to it as milk. we know from dr. sanjay gupta that propofol has a very milky

appearance, michael calling it his milk very familiar with it. >> we heard other reports and talked about it, i believe it was last week concerning dr. murray making phone calls after he left michael jackson. did we get that out of this report, randy? >> not yet. this is a pretty long search warrant and i'm still going through it. i haven't seen any phone calls yet. i do know he was the first one he says who started working on michael jackson. but in terms of phone calls, we know that somebody else in the house here, one of his security detail, just reading it here that he returned, he responded upstairs. he went to the aid of dr. murray. he called 911 via his cell phone as we fwhoe, there wasn't a phone in michael jackson's room. dr. murray waited for the ambulance while conducting cpr, according to this document. he assumed care from the paramedics and accompanied them to the hospital. >> okay. let's bring in our attorney, one of our attorneys anne bremner is with us. ann, as you hear that timeline,

drug after drug in the hours before michael jackson's death. does he have any excuse here? >> i don't see any excuse at all. we already know milk, it's been called milk of amnesia. you can't use it sounds of a surgical setting. that alone damns the doctor, but drug after drug after drug and then after jackson demanded to get something more to sleep, this isn't a stickup at a pharmacy. this is a patient that you're upheld to take care of and not to harm under the hippocratic oath. >> russell, as randi just mentioned, it sounded like he was looking for that other excuse by saying i'm not the first one or the only doctor that gave him pro foe follow or diprivan. that's going to ring hollow. your thoughts on that. >> that's right. x weeks.

one-night event where there was oops, an accident. but for six weeks, he had been administering that and at 10:40 in the morning he administered it again after several sedatives. >> dr. william morrone, let's go over this time line a little bit. first of all, 50 milligrams of propofol. is that a normal dosage? your thoughts on that. of propofol that's a side effect is respiratory depression. the side effect of valium and lore raz pem is respiratory depression. and he mix them all together. >> so that was from -- that's completely irresponsible from your vantage point? i mean, when you talk about

valium at 1:30, lorazepam at 2:00 and various drugs after that until finally the propofol at 10:40 -- >> if he would have had mr. jackson on a ventilator and intubated, he could have offered a reversal agent and continued oxygenation and let it wear off. but he didn't have the monitoring. and he didn't have a reversal agent. he didn't have an antidote. that's outside of the standard of care. >> okay. all right. we're just getting started with this. we'll take your phone calls, the number 1-877-tell-hln as now we have a timeline we're looking at. it just seems from our lay -- my layman's points of view is so irresponsible, all of these drugs topped off by the most powerful propofol at 10:40 in the morning. we'll take your calls when we come back.

welcome back to "prime news." continuing our conversation about the death investigation concerning michael jackson. we're getting a timeline here, and from what we're looking at, michael jackson had just a drug cocktail in his system. topped off by propofol administered to him at 10:40 on the morning of his death. and we know he stopped breathing at that point. we have experts standing by. randi kaye is with us from cnn. randi, any comment yet on this from dr. murray, his camp at all. >> no, i did give a call to his attorney and they were just reading the affidavit that we have here. and if they wanted to make a comment, they usually release it

on their website, which they haven't done as of yet. one thing, mike, i want to tell you, and this is coming from the associated press, this is a big piece of information here. the associated press is reporting quoting a single law enforcement official who says the l.a. county coroner has ruled michael jackson's death a homicide. now, this is new. we've been hearing that this case may move eventually to criminal charges and it may be ruled a homicide but it's important for us to point out we've called the lapd. they said this information did not come from them. cnn has also called the coroner's office and they gave us the official no comment. so as of now, this is just a single source telling the associated press that it has now been ruled a homicide. something else to point out is that in this affidavit for the search warrant that i have here, according to the police department in houston, their office is saying they believe they have found evidence of the crime of manslaughter at this

the location in harris county, texas. that location is dr. conrad murray's houston clinic. we know from other search warrants when they searched the houston and las vegas clinic, they were looking for evidence of manslaughter. this says right here they believe they found the evidence of the crime of manslaughter. >> okay. randi, thank you so much. don clark, former fbi special agent in charge. don, as an investigator, so what is that evidence? is it evidence he obtained propofol? what are relooking at here. >> they've got to find things that get them inside the law that they obtained this stuff illegally, that they pay somebody to do the wrong things that, they administer illegally, not improperly per se but illegally something that's against the law, that they obtain the drugs through pipelines that were illegal or against the law and how did they give the stuff to them. did they go against all the laws

feeding people those drugs. i think there's a good chance that somebody could be charged with homicide. you know, and i keep going back to the anna nicole because it's somewhat of a parallel there. that's a possibility that could have gone the same way. >> bev's with us in new york. hi, bev. your comment or question. >> caller: i'm just wondering on this doctor for the propofol, the people that gave it to him, will they get in trouble and also all the other doctors before this doctor that helped michael jackson become an addict, what about those people? >> good questions. ann, i guess that's a defense he's not the first. but that's not going to absolve conrad murray. >> no, it's not. we have a manslaughter basically acting with some kind of recklessness in california. no, it doesn't. is the fact that other people may have prescribed to an addict just makes more potential targets. now, there are crimes for prescribing to an addict and

licensure implications. he can say that other people did it too, but the fact that they did -- he said that he didn't think jackson was an addict, didn't know that. we're hearing otherwise now in this time line. >> let's bring back dr. william morrone. our medical examiner here. myself as a layman before the break, i characterized this as irresponsible. are you the expert. how do you characterize the treatment michael jackson received in the hours before his death? >> what you have to understand safe. lore raz pem and mids an zo lam, you take out that respiratory feeling and everything you did by trying to reduce it to make it safer, you then complicate it had by adding new levels of risk. so he really didn't try to make it safe and while my heart goes out to him, when you take a

cardiologist and ask him to take the role of an anesthesiologist, he's working outside of his level of training. if he obtained the propofol from illegal channels from other countries, australia, canada, italy, then he's trying to cover up which would be against the law and if he obtained it through aliases and false names that would be another level of illegality. >> yeah. >> besides outside of his level of specialty. that's where the problem is here. he mixed stuff that made it more dangerous which negates lowering the dose. >> looking at that, is there any way he knew what he was doing? is he just guessing here? that's what it looks like when you're piling on drug after drug and top it off with the most powerful drug of all. >> if his experience with propofol and the valiums, six months worth of experience, the

answer he is guessing. it is guesswork. he didn't do a fellowship. he didn't do a residency in this area. it's outside of his level of specialty. and when you add on top of that that he's treating an addict who has certain needs and dependences and comorbidities because of his addictions, out of his league. >> guys, we'll take your calls, your thoughts on these brand new revelations. you know the number, 1-877-tell-hln.

continuing our conversation about new revelations into the death of michael jackson, what happened? what kind of care did he receive in the hours before his death? what we're looking at is a in the morning

dose of propofol at 10:40 in the morning. he died june 25th, 2009. we're taking your calls. kim is with us in ohio. comment or question here? >> caller: how are you today? >> good. >> caller: i was just calling. i wanted to agree with the expert who spoke right before you went to a commercial break as far as the doctor being a cardiologist versus an anesthesiologist, which is true. i am an anesthesia technician. i myself do not even have access to propofol, only an and anesthesiologist and a nurse anness that activity does. my question is, how does a dead man, michael jackson, how does he defend his self? it's kind of obvious that the doctors will say i wasn't the first one and he wanted me to give it to him, but michael jackson can't speak for his self. >> let's go to russell. he's an attorney.

russell, i mean the evidence i would think speaks for michael jackson in this case what, we're seeing in the time line we're getting. >> that's right. obviously michael can't testify in his own behalf, but certainly we have been talking a lot about his responsibility in this and we're hearing even from dr. murray within these court documents that he was asking for propofol that day. we have to believe he must have been asking for it before. there were six weeks of him giving that propofol. michael jackson has some responsibility in this, but at the end of the dashs the question is, was that doctor or will that doctor be guilty of manslaughter or other criminal charges. >> anne, regard liz of michael's request, as a doctor, you have to do what's best for your patient. >> that's absolutely right. in a manslaughter case you'll not have fault of the decedent. that's not an excuse. he's the doctor. >> i'd like to thank our panel. more news coming up. stay with us.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. police track down a teen runway. a pastor was helping her out. she's afraid for her life, doesn't want to go back to her muslim family, says she might get killed for converting to christianity in an honor killing. should she be allowed to live away from her parents? her parents say they love her and want her back. take your calls 1-877-tell-hln. a shocking twist in the swimsuit model's murder. she could only be identified bit serial number on her breast implants. her teeth taken out, fingers cut off. her accused ex, reality show contestant ryan jenkins was just found dead in a canadian hotel

room. looks like suicide but he was not there alone. apparently a mysterious blonde woman checked him in, even paid cash for the room. now cops say they know who she is. could she face charges? plus we have a new videotape recovereded just last month that shows the victim, jasmine fiore vacationing with another man. how much did jealousy play a part in all this? we'll take your calls. back with us, done clark, psychologist wendy walsh and back with us russell wetanson, legal analyst, attorney with pop squire.com. don, this mystery woman, how important is she to finding her and wrapping up this investigation? >> well, i don't know if she'll wrap it up totally but she's certainly an important part of this. what we know is she may have been the last person to see this guy alive and may have some information about that, about, jenkins and his activities and so forth that law enforcement would need to still gather

evidence so that they can put this case to rest, mike. yeah, she's extremely important and i hope they do find her real quickly so they can start to talk to her. >> russell what, do we know about her actions? do we know when she lynched up with jenkins? >> there aren't a lot of details when she linked up, how she linked you. . we are under the impression she may have taken him to the motel where he was found dead. >> she paid cash, right, we know that? >> that's right. >> how long did she stay with him? did she hang out with him for very long. >> there republican a lot of details. my understanding is she went to the hotel and he never emerged. >> there's one report she's an ex-fiancee from three years ago. >> may have had an on and off relationship for three years. some reports saying she has been in love with him and probably still is. we know he also got married this year to jasmine fiore. so the status of that

relationship clearly had to be on and off again. >> okay. what kind of trouble could she be in, russell? i guess it would depend on her involvement. >> there are a couple questions authorities want to ask her. one, did she know who he was. if she's in a relationship, did she know he was running from the law and knowingly help him? depending on the answers to those questions, we could see accessory to murder after the fact. this could be something that causes a lot of legal trouble for her. >> you would think so. let's bring in wendy walsh. i want to watch a video from tmz and it shows ryan jenkins. he's happy with his life. he's happy with his wife. let's watch that. and maybe you can help us understand how we got from that to where we are today. here's the video. i think we can hear him in there. let's listen. >> luckiest guy in the world right here. >> he said luckiest guy in the world there. what could lead us from that, luckiest guy in the world, happy

as all get out to where we are today. >> sometimes the most passionate love, mike, can be very violent. what you have to understand about this guy, i haven't seen his mental health history. he broke up with one fiancee, very quickly met and married and perhaps annulled this one. he certainly has pore impulse control at the very least. poor impulse control when it's comorbid with high jealousy issues and a tendency toward violence can create doe messtive homicide. >> at the end of the day, was it if i can't have her, nobody can? is that his mind set? >> we don't know for sure. certainly that's one of the ways. i don't think this was a premeditated event. certainly from a mental health perspective this probably happened in a kind of rage and an out of body experience, if you will. i think like when the incredible hulk eventually transformed into something. he probably did that, and then

his behavior following, if indeed it was him who you know, took away the fingerprints and the teeth was all self-preservation behavior. at that point, he's becoming conscious, having some awareness, having remorse and trying to preserve himself at this point, if in fact he did the murders and we're assuming did he. >> russell, help me out here. his history, we go back to 2007 with another woman convicted of assault. at what, anger management courses, sex an he had to deal with and also charged with battery back in april against jasmine fiore, right. >> he definitely has a history of violence against women. in canada, he was convicted of then. megan wants to be millionaire." after that marriage within a short few weeks even or a month in, april, he is accused of assaulting and committing

battery against jasmine. then we have come june middle of june, july, he's parts of another vh-1 reality show. when you mix in fame and violence, it's a very dangerous suspicious strange combination. >> yeah. fame, ego, anger, violence. we'll take a quick break. we'll take your phone calls if you want in on the conversation, 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation about the brutal murder of model jasmine fiore. the man accused her ex-husband, ryan jenkins. and we're taking your calls on this one, 1-877-tell-hln. we know he looks like anyway he took his own life in canada. barbara is with us in new york. go ahead. >> caller: yeah, i just can't understand if they did such a thorough background check regarding his financial

background, how they didn't come up with the fact that this guy had so many charges against him. i mean, they could have a jeffrey dahmer appear on one of these shows and when it's over, just kill the person. >> that's a great, great comment there. first let me read the statement from the producers of -- and minds, that's who produced this show is investigating what went wrong and taking steps to ensure that this sort of lapse never occurs again." don, how difficult is it to do a thorough background check? >> it depends on how much money and resources that a company or organization want to put into to find out what type of people they're bringing on board for

whatever their mission might be. it's not that difficult. you can't do one or two and stop. you should go a few levels deeper in different areas you know these people have been associated with and you get that background from the person that's trying to get the job or whatever and go with it that way. >> you look how this played out, don. we're talking about people who could have put in danger. the megan who wanted a millionaire. start with her and others in his midst. man, what a wake-up call for all these reality shows. >> they've got to take a good look at these people to see. they get involved in these reality shows and if that personality comes out, then you see these types of things happening. right now too, with the case we're talking about, law enforcement would be well advised to try to talk to as many people that was around him to get who this person was. and it may help to prevent these types of things in the future. >> you had mentioned the kind of personality we're talking about here, john. i want to listen to the mom of

jasmine fee or a, lisa lapore, talking about jenkins and what she saw in him. >> this man was a professional con man, you know? he was -- he targeted women, i believe. he wanted to be something that he wasn't. and i think he wanted to be and have what jasmine had. i mean, she was for real. you know, she earned what she had. and you know, he was a fake. >> there you go, a fake. wendy walsh, psychologist, is with us. do you agree with that assessment, a professional con man? and his end goal is all about him, it seems, isn't it. >> it's all about him whenever it involves violence against women, it's obviously about control. it's about coercion and control and using intimidation to control the women in his life. we don't know what caused him to become a professional con man, quote unquote. i have heard stories he came from a family of some means. that's a big pressure on a young person because it's hard to do

better than their parents. celebrity might be a way do better. you mix celebrity in with some kind of mental illness or personality disorder and that's a crazy cocktail. >> well, put. like you said, if you the means, you're used to having money and do whatever it takes to keep it and make sure have you it for your own life. >> one thing. >> real quick. >> if i can add something for your viewers. domestic homicides have actually gone down in the last couple decades. that's thanks to the economic empowerment of women, they can live more freely on their own out of marriage and services available. 1200 women in america die every year at the hands of an intimate lover. >> wendy, don, russell, we appreciate it. coming up this story. a pastor helping out a runway teen. she's afraid for her life. does not want to go back to her muslim family and says she might get killed for converting to christianity in an honor killing. we'll take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln.

well, can you really force a teenage girl to return home when she's scared of being the victim of an honor killing? 17-year-old rifqa bary from columbus, ohio, says she ran away from her family out of fear and says her muslim father threatened to kill her for converting to christianity but her dad says that is not true and says the family loves her and want her back home. rifqa talked to a reporterer about three weeks after she arrived in florida. >> because i'm now a christian from a muslim background. it's an honor. they love god more than me, they have to do this. i'm fighting for my life. you guys don't understand. you don't understand!

>> what did your father say to you? >> he said he would kill me. >> all right. now, a florida pastor and his family took her in for a couple of weeks till friday when a judge put her into foster care. your thoughts on this one. where should she be? call in 1-877-tell-hln is the number. joining us to talk about this, michael cruise, staff writer at the st. petersburg times and jennifer smeters. we welcome back psychologist wendy walsh. mike, we heard the fear in her voice. do investigators believe she was abused because she makes that claim as well concerning her family, rights? >> yes. she has made those allegations of abuse that have nothing to do with whether her parents will kill her. she has said she was physically abused and mentally abused, too. and that's something that obviously this case is no different than any other dependence case when it comes to that.

that's something that the appropriate authorities have to look into and in the meantime, protect her from that potential threat. >> okay. do investigators believe she's in danger if she goes back to columbus or we're sorting that out still i guess? >> i think that remains to be seen. the judge on friday in orlando decided to put florida department of law enforcement in charge of that investigation. so they have the next two weeks or and until the next hearing on september 3rd to look into that. and to come in front of that judge and say whether she is allegations are credible, what threats there would be back in columbus what, threats there are potentially here and where to go from there on september 3rd, although that's not a drop-dead date by any stretch. >> michael, have you had a chance to talk to people in columbus that know her, know the family and what other people have witnessed? >> i haven't talked to too many of her friends, people who know her specifically.

i've talked to a couple people who knew her through facebook. they seem to think that the allegations are credible. but that comes from rifqa. a lot of this comes from her. that's not too unusual. a child says something like this. these are sort of extreme and very eye-catching but when a child says something, that is taken with, you know, very seriously. it's taken very seriously until you can prove otherwise. that's a difficult thing to roll back. >> okay. let's bring in our attorney jennifer mediciners. jennif jennifer, how do we sort through this? what's the process going on right now? >> right now, what's interesting is that the court has taken some level of jurisdiction over the child here. child. the reporter did note that one,

we have past abuse allegations. and then we have fear of further abuse. i think it breaks our heart to hear her crying on that tape. it sounds very sounds very beli that she truly feels that she is in danger. and we have to take it on a subjective standard. what are her fears? does she really feel as if she is in danger, in future danger as well? what's interesting to note here, and i have seen in my own practice in terms of family law in custody situations, when we have women who are originally born and parents born of a different culture, those cultural fears do come into play, and oftentimes these women, and it's usually women, do have lingering fears about how they live out their life and whether or not it fits into their family's pattern. now, i'm not saying her parents said what she claims that they said. i'm not saying that her parents are causing her any harm. that is for the investigators to decide. but in this society, in america

today, women of another culture still hold these fears very true. and we need to look into it. >> wendy, how do you get to the bottom of this in the sense of speaking to -- go ahead. >> i want to underscore exactly what you said, is that first-generation americans clash. okay? because they're carrying some of world of now, this young girl is clearly afraid, and that fear should be taken seriously. now, you didn't show the quotes from the parents, who said that we love her and we want her back. so something to be aware of, although i must say the minor should be protected at all costs first and foremost, but teenagers, as a very act of becoming adults, love to rebel. and in fact, it's the friction that makes them leave the nest. and -- >> we're going to tack a quick break. more on this coming up.

the intense manhunt is now over. that millionaire reality show contestant accused of murdering and dismembering his ex, he's been found dead, hanging in a motel room. and right now cops are searching for a mysterious blond woman who paid for the room. who is she? and there's this angle. just how did a man with a history of violence against women get on a reality dating show in the first place? >> and a tug of war over a runaway teenager who says her muslim father threatened to kill her because she converted to christianity. a pastor's family hundreds of miles away harbored this girl for weeks before calling police. now her parents want her back.

can she be forced to return? always love hearing from you. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us, text us at hlntv, start your it's your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome. this is hour number two of "prime news." i'm mike galanos. first some breaking news in the death of michael jackson. just released, court documents show the king of pop had lethal levels of the drug propofol in his blood. again, this is a highly potent drug that's used to knock out patients before surgery. this new information comes from the los angeles county coronecos preliminary report. inside this 32-page document dr. conrad murray tells authorities what drugs he gave jackson, right down to the minute. and right now the associated press is quoting a single law enforcement official who says the l.a. county coroner has ruled michael jackson's death a homicide. the coroner's office gave us a no comment on that. the lapd says this homicide

ruling didn't come from its department, so what do we make from all of this? a lot to get to. we take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. we've got an expert fanl standing by to sort this one out. and joining us again, randi kaye, from our sister network, cnn. she's in los angeles. also with us, attorney russell wetanson, also a legal entertainment reporter. he's with popsquire.com. he's an attorney as well. defense attorney, former prosecutor anne bremner's with us. former fbi special agent in charge don clark's joining us as well. and on the phone medical examiner dr. william marrone. let's start with you, randi. what we learned from these documents. and as we talked before, it's fascinating, this timeline up right until his death. >> there is a lot of the timeline to discuss for sure. i do want to point out that the headline, though, coming from this document, this affidavit for the search warrant, is that the preliminary report coming from the coroner's office determined that at the time of his death toxicology analysis showed that michael jackson had lethal levels of propofol in his system. propofol is also known as

diprivan. it's a very powerful sedative. only really to be used in a hospital setting. as far as the timeline, we are getting new information about what exactly was going on inside his rented beverly hills mansion the day he died, june 25th of this year. apparently, michael jackson, according to dr. conrad murray, who was interviewed in this document, that's his personal physician who was with him at the house that day, he said michael jackson had been he was limiting his originally was giving him 50 milligrams. the morning he died he said he tried to induce sleep without using propofol. he gave him the 25 milligrams. he said that jackson had some valium at 1:30 in the morning, that didn't work, he injected him then with lorazipam at 2:00 a.m. and at 3:00 p.m. he tried another drug called medalizalam, that didn't work, early in the morning he was still awake 10:40

in the morning just hours before he died so, he tried to give him this 25 milligrams of the propofol, and he did that after he says jackson repeatedly demanded the drug. we know from authorities, a source very close to this investigation, he has said that dr. murray did give michael jackson propofol within 24 hours of his death, and now we have it confirmed here again in this affidavit. another couple things to point out, we've always wondered was dr. murray in the room when michael jackson stopped breathing? according to this affidavit, dr. murray told police he had actually left the room to go to the restroom, he was out of the room for about two minutes maximum, according to this document and upon his return that's when he noticed michael jackson had stopped breathing and started cpr immediately. another final important note, dr. murray told investigators that this was not the first time michael jackson had been using propofol, he was very familiar with, it he called it his milk, it has a very milky appearance. he said there was a time where michael jackson called him in las vegas as recently as this march or april, just a few months before he died, called

him to get him in touch with another doctor in vegas to give him propofol, and it turns out that dr. murray told police he did exactly that and he was in this doctor's office while this darkt sedated michael jackson with the propofol. so this now going back months before, making it very clear that michael jackson was a big fan of the propofol to try to sleep and apparently used it as recently as the day he died. >> okay. randi kaye joining us from our sister network, cnn. randi, always good talking to you. thanks for the update on that front. all right. anne bremner, as we look at this, i mean, there's just so many things looking at this going against dr. murray. number one, he gave him the drug, admits to it, a drug only to be used in a hospital setting, he left the room and he gave him a cocktail of other drugs before he gave him the final dose of propofol. >> it's unbelievable, mike. thing is for manslaughter you just need recklessness. we hear homicide. that just means death at the a man or woman or person.

recklessness. the propofol which he called the milk of magnesiaa but all these other drugs and the fact that the doctor admits jackson had been an addict and he'd given them to him before. finally, what was lethal? lethal means it killed him. >> russell wetanson again. russell's also an attorney, besides covering this for popsquire.com. russell, we've had callers say michael jackson was a grown man, he wanted this stuff. that's not an excuse, is it? you're a doctor. you're supposed to do what's right for the patient, not just what they want. >> that's right. and that's something we've been wanting from the beginning. the question is why did he give it to him to begin with in the initial six weeks and how much and why did he give it to him on that fateful day? you know, dr. conrad murray released a youtube video last week where he said he told the truth to police and that truth will prevail. well, in this case the truth may not be a defense. >> all right. we had talked to randi last hour, randi kay from cnn, and she had not received word or any kind of comment from dr. murray's camp.

we're getting now reaction from the jackson family. here's the jackson family statement, saying this, "the jackson family has full confidence in the legal process and commends the ongoing efforts of the l.a. county coroner, the l.a. district attorney, and the l.a. police department. the family looks forward to the day that justice can be served." all right. we're going to take a quick break. we'll take your calls, your thoughts on this. 1-877-tell-hln's the number.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation new revelations into the death of michael jackson, that dr. conrad murray, this according to documents from the l.a. county coroner's office, told authorities he gave michael

jackson propofol, gave it to him for six weeks. 50 milligrams a shot. thought michael jackson was getting addicted. so he cut it back to 25 milligrams. even went a couple of days without giving him propofol, tried some other medications to get michael jackson to sleep. but on the day michael jackson died, he started with valium, went to lorz pam, mitazolam, other various drugs before finally giving him propofol at 10:40 in the morn sxeg left the room and when he came back michael jackson was not breathing and ultimately died. mary in pennsylvania's with us. your thoughts. >> caller: i wanted to know what would a responsible doctor have done to treat michael's sleep deprivation problem? >> great question. the only positive i'm seeing out of that, and let's bring in dr. william marrone, medical examiner, is he tried -- he saw an addiction, tried to wean michael jackson oft prof the

propofol. other than that what would a responsible doctor do, dr. marrone? >> a responsible course is not to keep the drugs in their bedroom and not to have an unlimited supply. if you're treating addiction out punitive. you're checking to see they're not mixing. because it's a propofol cocktail with everything that is going to be the undoing here. and michael jackson may have been mixing things that mr. murray was out of control with. >> let's show -- now, these -- i home.

talking about. doctor you don't have this stuff around like michael jackson's right. look at things, the names, traz doen, clonazapam, they're all in the same family. respiratory hip knottics that reduce respiratory rate and can cause respiratory arrest. he's mixing all these and on top of that he's getting the propofol on a regular basis. that is not how you treat somebody with addiction. be very simple. be very short. >> let's get a kuecall in. la toya's with us in texas. la toya, your comment or question sneer. >> caller: yes, i'm just commenting on the fact that the doctor had access to all these drugs. it's almost like he's a legalized street pharmacist, like a drug dealer. at some point somebody has to be held responsible for people getting too many prescriptions or being able to have that access to them.

and the timeline you just named minutes difference before he nine. patients. no money should anyone's life. no matter how much money you're make. >> love my viewers. they tell it straight. let's bring don clark-n former fbi special agent in charge. don, that's part of what investigators are doing now, right? finding out what drugs dr. conrad murray obtained, how he got them, who gave them to him, was it on the up and up, right? >> absolutely. mike, give that lady an a-plus. she's right on the money. procurement of these drugs. that's the word. how are they getting all of these drugs? and i think the attorney general to is how are they going about getting these drugs? aren't there some laws and rules and regulations out there? if there are laws that's what

investigators need to be looking at to see how the heck all the stuff got there. >> we'll take your calls, comments, questions on this as let's face it we're flabbergasted when you see the timeline, all the drugs that dr. murray gave michael jackson before his death. here's the number. 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation about the death of michael jackson. taking lee's call in south carolina. hi, lee, go ahead. >> caller: hi, mike. >> hey, lee. >> caller: if michael jackson was taking propofol at night to sleep, i'd like to know why the doctor was giving it to him in the morning around 10:00. >> well, the time -- here's, take this one sleep with medications. but on the day he died beginning

until finally giving him propofol at 10:40 in the morning and he told authorities, dr. murray, that michael jackson was begging and he finally gave it to him. thanks for the call there, leigh, clear thing is up for all of our viewers. anne bremner's with us, an attorney. as we look at that -- i'm looking at some kind of defense in there for dr. murray. i'm just not seeing it. are you? >> the only defense is not going to work, which is that he was an addict and somehow led to his own demise. but the fact of the matter is the key word, mike, is lethal. lethal dosage of propofol. and the fact is you can't administer it in the home like this. and by the way, you don't sleep on it. you're unconscious. jackson was killed thereby. so i don't know what kind of defense there will be but there's going to be one because remember, he was paid 150 grand a month to be jackson's doctor. he's defend himself on youtube and everywhere else. >> and let's talk about that.

we just showed the clip of him saying he told the truth and the truth will prevail. >> right. >> if this is the truth -- >> well, exactly. i remember when i listened to it, mike, i kept thinking, youtube to be or not to be, youtube? but why did he say the truth will set me free when the truth is i gave it to him and if indeed the cause of death is propofol, which we all know, the truth is not going to set him freeish it's going to condemn him. >> russell wetanson with us. as we look at this, what's the worst part of this for dr. murray? is it giving him the propofol? is it giving him the cocktail of drugs before that? is it leaving the room when someone on this should be monitored so closely? >> well, i don't think you can point to one thing that's the worst. it's a combination of all those things because based on these court documents today we know he was doing it for six weeks. we saw the timeline that just came out today where he gave him that combination of drugs. and you know what's interesting is that ed chernoff, dr. murray's lawyer, who's been saying wait for the toxicology report before judging and he also said dr. murray didn't know what he was getting into it when

it came to michael jackson and his drug habit, well, he knew as soon as michael jackson asked for propofol that this was an unusual case and he had the ability to say no as a doctor, that is not a drug i'm going to administer in your house. >> real quick, don, are investigators, are they digging right now for other doctors who may have given him profile or is that for another time? >> no, i think they have to be looking at this all in one big package. i don't think you can single out dr. murray, you've got to look at the whole package and try to put a case together wide stance so you know all who's guilty here. >> i know five or zoirkts are being looked at, their involvement, what medications they gave michael jackson both recently and through the years that we know of. guys, we have to leave it there 37 great discussion. i have to thank our panel. here's another story we continue to follow for you. and right now cops are following a new intriguing lead while they search for a missing woman from georgia. we're talking about kristie cornwell. could she have been kidnapped

and taken cross state lines? this anonymous tipster called in the to the tv show "america's most wanted" over the weekend and told police to check out an address in rural north carolina. today searchers are out there with sniffer dogs. let's bring in richelle carey with more on this. >> let's bring in people up to speed in case they don't remember. kristie is the young mother who vanished during a walk near her parents' north georgia home. she was on the phone with her boyfriend. the boyfriend says that she screamed something that sound like "don't take me" before the line dropped. that's been about two weeks ago now. acting on what authorities are calling a credible tip, detectives are searching about 200 miles away from blairsville, georgia in aan area in the kings mountain area of north carolina. authorities say the anonymous caller was vague but gave them an address where cornwell can allegedly be found. kristie cornwell's family is offering a $50,000 reward for

information leading to her safe return or the arrest of the person responsible for her disappearance. so clearly, we are going to follow this, mike. you've got some more to talk about with this. >> we do. and we've talked to him in the past. keith hogstead, christie's cousin. and also don clark with us to help or the it out. keith, what are authorities telling you about that tip in north carolina? >> what we heard is what you guys reported, that it dumb through that show on saturday night, the "america's most wanted" show, that it was in their estimation one of many tips that they've gotten from a variety of sources. and our understanding was that they weren't that -- didn't have any more confidence or less confidence in that particular tip than they did others they were working on, the indication we got from them. >> we'll take a quick break. more with keith and don coming up as we continue to search and hope for kristie cornwell.

well, can you really force a teenage girl to return home when she's scared of being the victim of an honor killing? 17-year-old rifqa barry from columbus, ohio says she ran away from her family out of fear. she says her muslim father threatened to kill her for converting to christianity. but her dad says that's not true. he says the family loves her and they want her back home. rifqa talked to a reporter from wftv about two weeks after she arrived in florida. >> because i am now a christian. i'm from a muslim background. it's an honor. if they love god more than me, they have to do this. and i'm fighting for my life. you guys don't understand.

you don't understand! >> what did your father say to you? >> he said he would kill me. >> all right. now, a florida pastor and his family took her in for a couple of weeks till friday when a judge put her into foster care. your thoughts on this one. where should she be? call in, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. joining us to talk about this, michael kruse, staff writer at the "st. petersburg times." also with us, jennifer smetters, criminal defense attorney. and we welcome back psychologist wendy walsh. michael, let's start with you. we heard the fear in her voice. do investigators believe she was abused because she makes that claim as well concerning her family, right? >> yes. she has made those allegations of abuse that have nothing to do with whether her parents want to kill her, or will kill her. she has said she was physically abused and mentally abused, too. and that's something that obviously this case is no different than any other

dependency case when it comes to that. that's something that the appropriate authorities have to look into. and in the meantime protect her from that potential threat. >> okay. do investigators believe she's in danger if she goes back to columbus? or we're sorting that out still, i guess? >> i think that remains to be seen. the judge on friday in orlando decided to put florida department of law enforcement in charge of that investigation. so they have the next two weeks or until the next hearing on september 3rd to look into that. and to come in front of that judge and say whether these allegations are credible, what threats there would be back in columbus, what threats there are potentially here and where to go from there on september 3rd, although that's not a drop-dead date by any stretch. >> michael, have you had a chance to talk to people in columbus that know her, know the family and what other people have witnessed? >> i haven't talked to too many of her friends, people who know

her specifically. i've talked to a couple people who knew her through facebook. they seem to think that the allegations are credible. but that comes from rifqa. a lot of this comes from rifqa. again, that's not too unusual. a child says something like this. these are sort of extreme and very eye-catching but when a child says something, that is taken with -- you know, very seriously. it's taken very seriously until you can prove otherwise. that's a difficult thing to roll back. >> okay. let's bring in our attorney jennifer smetters. jennifer, how do we sort through this? what's the process going on right now? >> right now, what's interesting is that the court has taken some jurisdiction down the road will be something to be sorted out.

the reporter did note that, one, we have past abuse allegations. and then we have fear of further abuse. i think it breaks our heart to hear her crying on that tape. it sounds very believable to me that she truly feels that she is in danger. and we have to take it on a subjective standard. what are her fears? does she really feel as if she is in danger, in future danger as well? what's interesting to note here, and i have seen in my own practice in terms of family law in custody situations, when we have women who are originally born and parents born of a different culture, those cultural fears do come into play, and oftentimes these women, and it's usually women, do have lingering fears about how they live out their life and whether or not it fits into their family's pattern. now, i'm not saying her parents said what she claims that they said. i'm not saying that her parents are causing her any harm.

that is for the investigators to decide. but in this society, in america today, women of another culture still hold these fears very true. and i -- we need to look into it. >> right. wendy, how do you get to the bottom of this? in the sense of speaking to her -- >> well, first i want to underscore -- >> go ahead. >> i want to underscore exactly what you said-s that first generation americans suffer an they're carrying some of they're carrying that is . clearly afraid, and that fear should be taken seriously. now, you didn't show the quote from the parents, who said that we love her and want her back. so something to be aware of, although i must say the minor should be protected at all costs first and foremost, but teenagers, as a very act of becoming adults, love to rebel. and in fact, it's the friction that makes them leave the nest. >> okay. we're going to take a quick break. more on this coming up.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation. 17-year-old girl now a runaway. she converted from islam to christianity. she believes that her family's capable of killing her, an honor killing here. now, here's a quote. i want to get a quote out from her father, saying this, that -- and i'm reading here. that "she doesn't have to be afraid at all. we are open-minded people. she can practice her faith in my home. we have no problem with her converting. we want her to come home safe. we love her so much." that's from her father, mohamed bary. joining us again, michael kruse, "st. petersburg times" reporter who's been following this. tell us about her. she was a good student. cheerleader. she converted to christianity, what, within the last year, right? >> she says she's been a christian for four years. >> four years. >> that doesn't mean that that's how long her parents have known. they've only known for a year,

evidently, or so. but i wanted to get back to something. there's -- i don't think anyone's saying that her fears aren't credible. i don't think anyone's saying they shouldn't be investigated. the question that was on the table on friday in that hearing was where those things should be investigated, who should have custody of this, the jurisdiction, whether it was ohio or florida. and the reason it was kept in florida, said the judge, said the people involved, is that a dependency case has been started here and a dependency case has not been started in ohio. that's not to say that a dependency case couldn't be started or some other legal matter couldn't be started in ohio, presumably by attorneys representing rifqa's parents up near columbus. i think that's going to happen. it's only a matter of when. they're talking about that right now, today. >> michael, how did she end up in florida? how did she make a connection with this pastor, blake lorenz? >> blake lorenz's wife, who co-pastors global revolution church, beverly lorenz, through

a facebook prayer group called the united states of prayer, and talked to beverly not only over facebook but on the phone one night, late one night, early july, and not too long after that got on a bus from columbus and ended up in orlando and was with the lorenzes in their home for 2 1/2 weeks, almost 3 weeks. >> all right. jennifer smetters, could the pastor and his wife be in any kind of trouble for not telling authorities that she was with them? >> yeah, i -- this is a minor that they were harboring. whether or not the child feared danger, the authorities should have been alerted, and the proper channels should have been started at that time. to harbor a minor is not appropriate at all in any way, shape, or form, regardless of whatever the claims are. that's for the legal authorities to step in to. and what's interesting, as your -- the reporter noted, ohio can actually fight to bring the child back and have the jurisdiction transferred to

ohio. and that doesn't necessarily mean that this child would be returned to her parents. what may very well happen is that a court in ohio will say, hey, look, we've got significant contacts with this minor, we've got a case pending here now, we're going to bring the child back here, but the department of children and family services of ohio would most likely be appointed to the case and the child would most likely be placed in foster care until a significant investigation could be done. >> and her parents, i believe, have agreed to that, that she could be placed in foster care back in ohio. we'll keep following this, see how it plays out. guys, thank you so much. coming up, the man accused of killing a former swimsuit model, jasmine fiore, found dead in a canadian motel room. apparent suicide. now we're finding out this guy had a criminal past, assault charges, battery charges. but yet he was able to just waltz onto a reality show. what about a background check? call in. 1-877-tell-hln.

well, the man accused of killing a former swimsuit model, jasmine fiore, is dead. reality show contestant ryan jenkins found hanging in a canadian hotel room. apparent suicide. well, now the victim's family is calling him a con man. this guy has a past of domestic violence, assault charge back in 2007, yet he was on a reality show, "megan wants a millionaire." what about background checks? what went wrong here? joining me to talk about this, welcome in two of my colleagues, jane velez-mitchell with us, host of "issues with jane velez-mitchell." that's coming up just about 15 minutes from now. also with us, we welcome back "showbiz tonight's" a.j. hammer. "showbiz tonight," the most provocative entertainment news show on television. a.j. fresh off vacation. good to have you back, a.j. >> yeah, it's good to be back. we'll be talking about this tonight as well, mike. >> yeah, we've got quite the story. jane, let me start with you on this one. how does this happen? we're talking about a serious

assault charge in 2007, sex addiction. he had anger management courses. he was charged with battery again just this past april. how's he just walk onto a reality show set? >> well, you call it part of the reality show curse, mike, because so many people who have been involved in reality shows end up in trouble. and essentially, i think that a certain type of personality, extraordinarily narcissistic, seeking fame for the wrong reasons, that's the profile of somebody who will end up on a reality show, seeking fame, seeking a shortcut that always invariably turns into a long cut and ends up nowhere at best and at worst in a tragedy like this. >> let's bring in a.j. a.j., tell us about -- let me read the statement, and then i'll let you dive in here on what you know of the background minds.

included background check, by an outside company for all contestants on investigating what went wrong and taking steps to ensure that this sort of lapse never occurs again." a.j., this has got to be a wake-up call for all reality shows out there, right? >> well, sure. and listen, background checks have been part of the reality show casting process virtually as long as reality shows have been on the air. even you think back to "the real world," when that show first hit the air waves they had to do background checks on these people living together. imagine if you will people who did background checks on one of the two reality shows this guy was participating in and now knowing what he has done. and this particular company, this is a reputable production company, 51 minds. they've been at the game for a long time. so they have to not only because it's good practice but because of huge liability issues make sure that proper background checks are in place. the fact that the background

information, which never should have allowed anybody to walk onto a reality show set, it should have raised red flags right from the beginning. the fact that slipped through the cracks, i think that has everybody scratching their heads and i'm sure everybody's going to be looking very hard. >> megan could have been in trouble. go ahead, jane. >> i just want to point out i believe one of his criminal problems stemmed back to canada. and so it could have been something that fell through the cracks because they were checking ults records acheck i ing united states records and he has this problem with an ex in canada. that could be just one way they could have missed it. >> okay. one possible explanation. guys, let's get a call in. stephanie wants in on the conversation from georgia. go ahead, stephanie. >> caller: hi. i just wanted to point out that i've read several places that he has been on several reality tv shows, it's not just the ones on vh1, he's also been on "millionaire matchmaker." i believe he was on that show

twice. i don't necessarily believe that it's a problem with the background checks. i think this guy might be some sort of a con artist because, you know, with all the care that he took in dismembering her to the point where she could not be identified -- >> right. that's a good point. a.j., let's go to you on his reality show history. so we've got "megan wants a millionaire." he just was part of the taping of a show, "i love money 3," right? >> that show has not hit the air. it was scheduled to be on the air. vh1 has not only taken the megan show off air but the show that was going to be airing, that's never going to see the light of day. those shows are done. the other shows i'm not familiar with. but part of a background check, or part of what they do when looking into a criminal past. it's also doing psychological profiles. if somebody is going to be in a living situation with someone, they do psychological profiles, which was something that was raised, if you remember, when susan boyle hit it big and then

kind of lost it after doing "britain's got talent" and all the fame she had. they do psychological profiles to see that they're not going to push somebody over that edge. it still can to see if they can push that person over the edge. >> this guy, ryan jenkins, speaks to what the goal is of a lot of people. it is to be famous. it is not to do something worthy or do something worthwhile with your life. it is just give me my 15 minutes of fame. i'm going to con my way to get there. >> he became infamous and died tragically. so he got his wish in a very horrible way. took this beautiful young woman down with him. i think that having lived in hollywood for 18 years, what i have experienced is there is a certain circle of people who are not quite actors and yet they don't want to give up showbiz. and those are the kinds of people who gravitate towards some of these reality shows and it is not totally unheard of for them to pop up from one reality show to the next. and kind of have different personas. at one point maybe they are an investment banker and next time

they are a chef. the reality is a little questionable in some of the reality shows. >> got you. real quick. another call. max in florida. max, go ahead. >> yes. p my question is forget the reality show. what happens to the american immigration laws or do we -- where we do not allow criminals visas to come into this country. >> hitting on something you mentioned. talking about what happened in canada that -- did that -- was that looked at in the united states where some of the shows were produced? again, we will take more of your phone calls. jane, you have to hit the road here. we will be watching. jane will get ready for "issues" at the top of the hour. always good talking to you. we will stick around with a.j.