thanks for watching. >> we appreciate your time. jimmy kimmel is next. >> announcer: this is an abc color presentation. >> dicky: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight -- josh gad. former governor john kasich. and music from foo fighters. and now, jimmy kimmel! >> jimmy: oh. well. oh, that's me, right? okay, hi. hi, everyone, i'm jimmy, i am the host of the show. thank you for watching. thank you for joining us on what was supposed to be debate night here on abc. presidential debate number two was scheduled for this evening, but instead we got two dueling town halls. joe biden on abc, donald trump on nbc. nbc pulled a very sneaky move. after trump refused to participate in a virtual debate,

they swooped in and gave him his own hour opposite joe biden. and while many are wondering why nbc would schedule this at the same time as biden's town hall, instead of on another night or even just in another time slot, so we could see what both candidates have to say, the answer to the question is, nbc sucks. [ laughter ] that's why. you should never watch that channel. [ cheers and applause ] it's a real peacock block is what it was. joe biden took questions from voters in philadelphia. trump again was in florida. even though they were 1,000 miles apart, i kept fantasizing about a surprise wrestle mania moment where biden runs behind trump and bangs him in the head with a folding chair. savannah guthrie as moderator tonight, which is a role she also played in 2016 when then candidate trump did his first town hall with nbc. this is what donald trump told savannah and matt lauer four

very long years ago. >> it's easier for me to be presidential than for me to be doing what i've been doing for the last, really, nine months. but at the right time i will be so presidential, you will be so bored. you will say, can he have a little bit more energy? but i know when to be presidential. >> jimmy: oh, okay. [ laughter ] when? maybe we could get a little bit of that before you leave? even though trump spent a lot of this afternoon cryptically claiming nbc was setting him up with this town hall, it was a beautiful reunion. like taking a time machine back to 2004 when he was just a blowhard reality tv host, nothing more. not only did we get a trip back to the past, we also got a glimpse of what trump and nbc have planned for their future together. >> this february on nbc, the prodigal don returns. >> that was terrible. >> donald trump is out of the

white house and back in the chair. >> she's nothing, got no talent. >> and he's the toughest judge yet. >> he did such a gross, horrible job on that. you're fired, get out! you're fired, out! >> trump is back only on the greatest, most fantastic network there is, nbc. >> nbc is just absolutely atrocious. >> jimmy: well, you know, there's a job he could do. [ applause ] the president has been trying to rally himself back into the race. he was in greenville, north carolina, this afternoon. i have to say, i don't know if it had something to do with getting the virus or the fact that he's way behind in the polls, but it would appear that the past couple of weeks have humbled this president. >> somebody said to me the other day, you're the most famous person in the world by far. i said, no, i'm not. no, i'm not. they say, yes, you are. nope. who's more famous? i said, jesus christ. [ cheers and applause ]

>> jimmy: jesus christ indeed. [ laughter ] that's just what i would say in that situation. jesus. jesus healed the sick, he didn't infect them with the coronavirus. last night trump was in des moines where he delighted the iowa crowd by letting them know just how thrilled he was to visit their state. >> get the hell out to vote, because if i don't get iowa, i won't believe that one. i may never have to come back here again if i don't get iowa. i'll never be back, you understand that, kim? >> jimmy: that's kim jong-un, the kim he's referring to. [ laughter ] they're doing some campaign events together. this guy. i know we know he's nuts. but he is nuts. nobody, no one in my lifetime, has done more to separate us, to drive us apart, than donald trump. and yet he genuinely believes he deserved to win the nobel prize for peace. >> told our first lady, darling, we're going to have the greatest

publicity i've ever had tonight. i got nominated for the nobel prize. do you know what that is, darling? let's go home. so i leave for the first time in a long time, early. i get home, i turn on the television. they talked about your floods in iowa. they talked about how's iowa doing, the crops, how's this happening, how are they doing in florida? three, four stories, one after another. where's my nobel peace prize? they don't talk about it. >> jimmy: that's right. f-u, iowa, with your floods and your crops. i told melania i was going to win a nobel prize! you know all you need to get nominated for a nobel prize is to have a college professor write a letter on your behalf. that's it. if you get that you're nominated. the reason i know this is because i once had a friend nominate me for the nobel prize. [ laughter ] no, melania, we didn't win. today showing off the progress he's made with his collection of rosetta stone tapes.

>> i'm here for one reason and one reason only. and that is that florida and america need four more years of president donald trump in the white house! quattro panyomas. >> jimmy: panyomas. >> guillermo: no way, jose. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: do white guys think that makes them seem less white? i can assure you, you never seem whiter than when you hab la espanol in florida. this is a twist. no one has been more criminally river determine to donald trump than his loyal attorney general, william barr. shed himself of all credibility in service of this president, but trump's mad at him now because he isn't arresting the people trump wants him to

arrest, and that could potentially cost him his job. >> how do you feel about bill barr in a term two, second trump term, if in fact you get elected, which i think will happen? bill barr, will he be around in the second term? >> i have no comment. can't comment on that. too early. >> too early? >> i'm not happy with all of the evidence they had, i can tell you that. i'm not happy. >> jimmy: be careful, mr. president, you may be talking about your future cellmate there, you're going to have to get along. [ laughter ] bill barr was supposed to deliver trump's big october surprise. the surprise was that there was no surprise at all. who knows what trump will try to get out there. my big fear is we haven't even reached the part of this presidency they're going to teach our kids about in school in 30 years. trump is so desperate for attention, he's doing every show. he's doing shows i never heard of. he somehow found time today to call into stewart varny's show on fox business where he continued to attack joe biden's

mental acuity. >> he's shot, mentally shot. so what happens is he's not calling the shots. >> you know, there's a lot of people, mr. president, who don't like it when you say that kind of thing. he's mentally shot. >> i have to tell the truth. we can't have a president who obviously isn't very sharp. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: well. finally, something we agree on crazy thing is, trump keeps insinuating that biden is too old. there's only three years' difference between trump and biden. he's 74, biden's 77. what's next, attack wesley snipes for tax evasion? joe biden is three years older than donald trump and has been medevac'd one less time this month. [ laughter ] with trump on nbc tonight, biden on abc, it made me wonder, who was having a town hall on cbs? >> could there be a way that we can deliver your message without the controversial rhetoric and efforts to reunite this country

during these divisive times? >> when someone comes up and says something like, i am a god, everybody says, who does he think he is? i just told you who i thought i was, a god. i just told you, that's who i think i am. versace, versace, versace, ver after chee. we love versace! >> from all of us here at cbs news, i'm nora o'donnell, good night. >> good night. >> jimmy: good night. they got one too. [ applause ] the so-called second wave of covid is upon us. dr. fauci is recommending that because of the pandemic, americans think twice about doing a big family thanksgiving, which i've been saying that to my family for years. [ laughter ] fauci says his children, who live in three different states, will not be visiting him over the holidays out of concern for how the virus could affect a man his age. his kids say they're not visiting because he makes a terrible spring bean casserole.

i was thinking about this, imagine growing up with dr. fauci as your dad. you only washed your hands for 28 seconds, get back in there now! that's my dr. fauci impersonation. >> guillermo: good job. >> jimmy: thank you. [ laughter ] it's also my impression nation of every male relative in my family. we're not even close to being out of the woods with this virus. a lot of businesses have been hit hard. but here's a funny thing. cannabis sales are booming. according to "marijuana business daily," which is published monthly -- [ laughter ] >> jimmy: they say based on tax revenues, pot is very hot during the quarantine, which makes this the perfect time to play one of our favorite games which is titled "who's high?" you know how we do this, guillermo. we are going to meet three pedestrians on hollywood boulevard. let's meet them now. hello, pedestrians. >> hey, there. >> hey! >> jimmy: one of these people is high, the other two are not high, as far as i'm told.

i will have to use my "weed ar" to see who is who. we built boxes for them to be in for safety reasons. crystal, how are you? where are you from? >> i'm doing great. i'm from new brunswick, new jersey. >> jimmy: are you here on vacation rightnow? >> no, i live here. >> jimmy: you moved here for what reason? >> just to live the big city life. >> jimmy: how's it going so far? >> it's a lot of work. >> jimmy: yeah, okay. >> a lot of work. >> jimmy: all right, all right. crystal, we got the sense -- your eyes perhaps look a little moist, and we will now meet our next contestant who is -- >> hi, i'm andrew. >> jimmy: hi, andrew, how are you? fantastic. >> jimmy: now you are the obvious choice, andrew. [ laughter ] >> what? what are you talking about? >> jimmy: andrew, is this hair covid hair or does it always look like that? >> it's covid-ish.

>> jimmy: covid-ish. what do you do for work, andrew? >> i have a lot of different jobs but mostly writing. >> jimmy: how is it going so far? >> it's good. since covid started i've been playing with a lot of puppets because i think that's the future of entertainment, so that's good. >> jimmy: yeah, yes, that's what they say. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: all right, andrew. and now our third contestant is -- >> dwell, hey, jimmy. >> jimmy: i would have said dueal. >> people say that, but it's like dueal. >> jimmy: do you have any siblings? >> i'm the youngest of five. >> jimmy: what are their names? >> shout-out to trinny, ranell, valerie, dale. we here, yo, yeah. >> jimmy: okay, i just really -- i wanted to know if you could remember your siblings' names. you know, it's part of the game,

all right? okay, dueal, welcome. let's see, okay. so i'm going to make a snap judgment here. i think andrew's the obvious choice, but i know the staff tries to keep things mixed up. i'm going to say that crystal, crystal, are you high? >> jimmy -- >> jimmy: yes? >> i'm high as giraffe booty on mars right now. >> jimmy: there we go. [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: pretty good, right? not bad at all. all right. well, we have gifts for you. what gifts do we have for the gang here? we've got -- oh, look at that, a tambourine. and we've got another tambourine. and then we've got another tambourine. all right, thank you all for playing "are you high?" should we do another round? it's fun. by the way, crystal's probably wondering what that creature who

handed her the tambourine was, whether that really happened or not. all right, hello there, contestants. how are you? let's start on the left side again and meet horace. hi, horace. >> hi, jimmy. >> jimmy: not a lot of guys named history mass nowadays. >> i've only met a couple in my life. >> jimmy: does everybody call you horace or there is a nickname? >> everybody calls me horace. >> jimmy: what do you do for work, horace? >> i'm a software engineer. >> jimmy: okay, horace. can we zoom real quick into -- i like to get a look at everyone's eyes. okay, all right. thank you, horace. pretty clear. no redness there, all right. let's meet our next player. our next player is -- can't see your nametag, what is your name? alis alisa. >> hi, jimmy. >> jimmy: are those prescription sunglasses? >> no -- yes, they are. >> jimmy: they are prescription sunglasses, okay. and do they get light where you go indoors? >> they do. >> jimmy: oh, they're those

kind. >> actually, they get darker when i go outside. >> jimmy: they get dark where you go outside, yeah. that would go along with -- [ laughter ] well, yeah probably does both, though, right, huh? yeah. [ laughter ] i used to wear those things. what happens is they don't get light fast enough. so when you come indoors, you bump right into things. isn't that correct? >> oh -- >> jimmy: maybe they made advances since them. what do you do for work? >> i'm a teacher. >> jimmy: what grade do you teach? >> sixth grade. >> jimmy: i'm ruling you out right now. >> no, i -- >> jimmy: let's see, let's see. let's meet our third player. it is marlon. hi, marlon. >> what's up, buddy? >> jimmy: how are you? >> i'm good, man. >> jimmy: i'm doing well. tell us a little bit about yourself, marlon. >> um -- [ bleep ], man. >> jimmy: all right. i know my answer. marlon, i have a question for you. >> yeah?

>> jimmy: are you high. >> yeah. >> jimmy: yeah, yeah, yeah. [ applause ] all right, there you go, see that? all right, thanks. we have some prizes for you guys too. we -- what is that prize? what the heck is that? oh, bubble wrap, have fun with that, marlon. share that with your students. and yes, that's for horace too. thanks to all of you for risking your lives to play our stupid game tonight. all right. thank you. thank you very much. all right, we've got a great show for you tonight. who's on the show tonight, guillermo? >> guillermo: tonight we have josh gad. and we have governor john -- >> jimmy: i'll do it. john kasich is with us. >> guillermo: yes. >> jimmy: and you can do this one. >> guillermo: and music from foo fighters! >> jimmy: that's right, foo fighters. we'll be right back with josh gad! experience clean in a whole new way. now roomba vacuums exactly where you need it. hey google, tell roomba to vacuum the kitchen counter.

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>> jimmy: welcome back. tonight on the show, the former governor of ohio, john kasich, is with us, a republican who is not voting for donald trump. we have a special performance tonight to raise awareness and support independent venues, from the world-famous troubadour in los angeles, foo fighters will be with us. [ cheers and applause ] help america's favorite bars, clubs, and stages by going to mainstreetalliance.org. next week, new shows with michael keaton, emma roberts, tracee ellis ross, eric andre, octavia spencer, and music from tate mcrae, lauv with conan gray, ozuna with doja cat, blackpink will be with us. and on monday, a special international guest all the way from kazakhstan. borat, live in studio. [ cheers and applause ] it will be very nice. and this is nice too. on sunday night, the return of

"who wants to be a millionaire." i am the host, tiffany haddish is in the hot seat. this season, we have celebrities playing for charity and some very deserving essential workers playing for the chance to win life-changing amounts of money. that's sunday night here on abc at 9:00/8:00 central, should you care to spend a bit of the weekend with me. our first guest tonight packs a remarkable array of talents into a little pile of snow. october 23rd, he returns to the role that launched a million halloween costumes, olaf, in "once upon a snowman," a short film on disney plus. please welcome josh gad! hi, josh. >> hello! hello, my friend, how are you? >> jimmy: i'm doing well. hey, i want to first say thank you. you filled in for me as host of the show last month. it seems like it was a long time ago but it was just last month. >> yeah, no, i never want to do it again. [ laughter ] no it was actually great. you know, i don't know if you're able to, but i was wearing

pretty much this kind of thing under it. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and it felt really like i fleeced your audience. it felt empowering. >> jimmy: well, you did a great job. >> i missed you, buddy. thank you. >> jimmy: you made news when you did that show, with daisy ridley, you uncovered a "star wars" factoid that nobody knew about. >> yes. i made news, and i maiden he's at our parent company, disney. >> jimmy: oh! >> that was fun doing all that in one night. >> jimmy: i see. >> that was good. >> jimmy: daisy revealed she was yoda's grandma or something like that? what was it? >> yeah. i don't remember it being that, per se. >> jimmy: you've been busier than most during this lockdown. is that just my perception or is that true? >> no, it's true. >> jimmy: yeah. you started -- >> i don't know why i got so aggressive with you when i said that. i just wanted to correct you, make sure you understood. >> jimmy: a lot of people are doing these reunions where they bring together the casts of various things. you started that. that was your thing.

does that anger you when you now see everybody else trying to jump in on your territory here? >> it [ bleep ] enrages me. [ laughter ] i'm not going to lie. it's really -- i'm not usually a bitter guy, you know. like i'm olaf, i'm supposed to be like, oh, everybody should steal my concept! no, shame on you! [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you hinted on twitter there's another one coming. was that a hint? there is another one coming? >> that is a hint. i wasn't going to do this tonight, but i love you so much, jimmy, i'm going to reveal to you that the next episode of "reunited apart" is "wayne's world" with mike myers. >> jimmy: wow. [ cheers and applause ] that's a good one. >> i'm very excited. >> jimmy: that's a really good one. >> cat's out of the bag. cat's out of the bag. >> jimmy: that is exciting. oh, boy. >> it's exciting, right? >> jimmy: yeah, it's really good, wow. will queen be there? >> uh -- i hope a queen will be there. i don't know if the band will be there. >> jimmy: yeah. >> hoping some royalty will be

there for sure. we're trying to get everybody. it's always really tough, but you know, trying to get as many people as we can. it's going to be pretty amazing. >> jimmy: yeah, that's going to be fantastic. you really embraced zoom. zoom is like my vision of hell. you, i see you on it, you seem to be having fun. where does the family go while you're zooming? >> you know what's so funny, right now, out of my eyeline, my dog is trying to get into the glass doors and it's enraging me. because i specifically said, i'm about to do jimmy kimmel. but my kids, what will happen is my kids will oftentimes, when i'm on a zoom call or "reunion" or anything like that, will be standing right out of frame trying to get my attention. and i'll be like nodding my head, but as you see, this is what's actually happening outside of the frame. >> jimmy: this is where all your acting powers come in handy.

>> it's just an aggressive hand. >> jimmy: you did a psa about mail-in voting, a bunch of stars got together and got naked. and there you are. was this -- i'm curious -- your first-ever nude scene? >> no. >> it's funny. because when you want to get people to vote, you know, what's more effective than josh gad naked? i would imagine is the question everybody's asking themselves. it is not my first nude scene. i actually -- i've never told this story before. so when i was in college, we had this thing called convocation at carnegie mellon. all the seniors would get up in front of the class and there would be a strip tease of sorts. now that would probably fall under harassment. but back then it was considered okay. >> jimmy: uh-huh. >> we did this, and i sent a video. i was studying in australia. and i sent a video of me dancing fully nude. and i sent the video to my

ex-girlfriend, and it was -- what's the word, lost. >> jimmy: what do you mean? was it mailed to her? >> it was mailed to her. >> jimmy: oh, okay. >> and it now exists somewhere in the world, me shaking all bodily joints in front of the camera. and if i ever run for politics, that will be the day that my campaign ends. or i'll win the presidency. >> jimmy: i have a surprise for you, we were able to track down the tape. no, we were not able to track down the tape. [ laughter ] we'll look for it. josh bad is with us. we'll be right back with josh! i'm a verizon engineer and today, we're turning on 5g across the country. with the coverage of 5g nationwide. and, in more and more cities, the unprecedented performance of ultra wideband. the fastest 5g in the world. it will change your phone and how businesses do everything.

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i'm alive! who said that? i said that. i can talk! i can think! i can juggle! no -- i cannot. i got too confident there. >> jimmy: that is josh gad in "once upon a snowman." it is a short film. it's going to be on disney plus starting october 23rd. how many olaf movies and things have you done now? >> quite a few. i want to say, like, in the 30s. you know, i did the two movies. i did -- i've done a bunch of shorts. i've done the toys, i've done the theme park, i've done too much, jimmy. >> jimmy: no, i've seen all of these. i've seen every one of these shorts. i've seen multiple times because my son, billy, loves olaf. >> i love that. >> jimmy: yes. the character is so popular.

really, i think it's what hooks the young boys into "frozen." you know? >> yeah. i think so. i think that there's something so innocent about him, and this like loveable naivete. it's something that even my two girls -- i was going to lie and tell you they love it. they actually don't. [ laughter ] they don't like any of the things that i do. but it's such a joy to be walking around and just be like, hi! and somebody will be like, wait, is that -- then they'll see this, and they'll be like, you're the nude guy from the voting campaign. [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: i know that you're joking but you're not joking, because i have a similar thing. i don't do a whole lot of voice-over things but i am in the new "paw patrol" movie that's coming out. i'm doing a voice in it. i did it entirely because i wanted to tell my kids and get this excited reaction. i said, i'm going to be in the

"paw patrol." and they're just like, what? yeah, i'm going to be one of the guys in the paw patrol! they're like, no, you're not. yeah, clam! they don't understand, and they don't care, and it's always disappointing. you go through all of this just to get nothing out of them. >> it's nothing. they would so much rather their father be moana, and that hurts because i can never be moana, jimmy. >> jimmy: even that wouldn't impress them. if we were moana, we wouldn't like -- >> yeah, if we were both moana. >> jimmy: if you were and i was ana, yeah maybe. i'm thinking about getting a vasectomy is the moral to the story. >> what? >> jimmy: hey, before i go, i just want to ask you. i heard you have a story about our mutual friend, fred willard. i don't know what the story is, but we, of course, loved him. he used to be here like once a week at our show. [ cheers and applause ] you did a show with him. >> amen. loved him.

>> jimmy: if you don't mind, share this story with us. >> so -- so yeah, so jimmy, fred and i did a show called "back to you." i was really excited because i -- it afforded me the opportunity to pay for a very big wedding. we had about 300 guests. and that night, fred and his wife, mary, who's since also passed, they both showed up. fred had this big, boisterous smile on his face. and he comes up and me and he goes, josh! congratulations! this is great! and i said, aw, thank you so much, fred, it means the world that you came here. he goes, uh, looks pretty expensive, i guess now is a bad time to tell you the show is canceled. and he walks away. [ laughter ] and i literally was like, oh, fred! fred! wait, are you serious? he's like, yeah! and that was it. i found out that my show was canceled the night of my wedding, by fred willard [ applause ] >> jimmy: well, it couldn't have

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[ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: welcome back. still to come, foo fighters. our next guest is a long-time republican who last year called for the impeachment of donald trump, and this year endorsed joe biden at the democratic national convention. please welcome the former governor of ohio, john kasich! hello, john. hello, governor. >> how are you, jimmy? >> jimmy: i'm doing well. governor, do you remember -- >> good to see you again. >> jimmy: it's good to see you. how long ago it was when you were here last in our study i don't? >> it's -- i guess it was about a year ago, right? >> jimmy: yes. >> maybe a little less. >> jimmy: it seems like five years ago. it does, doesn't it? >> you know, jimmy, i was talking with my friends the other day about all the things that have happened in the last year. it was just coincidental you'd asked the question. i tell you, think about this.

we had impeachment. we've got, of course, terrible corona. we had a debate about masks. early voting's being called a fraud. we got a new justice. we had storms, we had wildfires. we saw his taxes. they gassed the protesters. he had a motorcade. then meghan and harry left england! and all that's happened in the last year. it's like going to a dance club, right? you start dancing and the music gets faster and you dance harder and harder and harder, and somebody shouts, stop the music! because the chaos has become unbearable. i think people are fed up with it in america. >> jimmy: i think billy joel needs to write another "we didn't start the fire" about the last six months of our lives. >> unbelievable. >> jimmy: don't think i didn't enjoy your dance club moves there, because they were -- that was the perfect analogy, i think, for you. >> hey, listen, i can dance. even to the foo fighters. >> jimmy: are you a good dancer. >> yeah.

i mean, i danced in michigan on %-p >> jimmy: all right, all right. >> the big magazine said, the guy can do it. >> jimmy: you spoke at the dnc. >> right. >> jimmy: did you ever imagine you would find yourself in that position in your life? >> you know, jimmy, throughout my career i've always kind of put the country before my party. and i also -- this is not a new swim lane for me. i've worked with democrats to balance the federal budget. you know, we expanded medicaid in ohio where i had to have support from democrats. so, you know, i looked at that as an opportunity to say, look, knock off all the partisanship and figure out what's in the best interests of the country. and i went for biden because i've known him a long time, and i think he can bring everybody together. and a lot of republicans are concerned that he's going to get swamped by the left. i hope not. if he gets swamped by the left and goes the wrong way, i'm going to criticize him, i'm going to hold them accountable as best as i can. but i thought it was important to give people permission to not

have to be just a partisan. you can be free. you can think the way you want, you can do what you want, and you don't have to be trapped by anybody or anything. so it was different, but it was good and i enjoyed it. >> jimmy: have you cast your vote yet officially? >> i have not, but my daughters, emma and reese, are home from school and they're going to be with us tomorrow night, and we're going to all -- my wife and my daughters and i are going to cast our ballots tomorrow. we're going to be voting absentee. >> jimmy: vote as a family. do you sit around and discuss ballot items and that sort of thing? >> no. we usually -- they usually want to talk about, dad, that's not the right clothes you have on. >> jimmy: i see. >> i don't like your tie. you know. stuff that's really important, jimmy. not all this political stuff. but they're very aware. look, since they were very, very young, i've been in public life. and they've taken it well. you know, my wife, she appreciates public life, but never sought kind of the

limelight, although she should because she's incredible. but as a family, we don't spend a lot of time talking about politics. we have too many other important things to talk about. not that politics isn't important, but they understand they need to make a difference in the world. they know that. >> jimmy: speaking of wardrobe. i notice you're wearing a blue jacket, blue shirt, blue tie. is that a message to your party? >> oh. hadn't thought about that. [ laughter ] looks pretty good. >> jimmy: did you hear what ben sass, the senator from nebraska -- there was a tape, he was speaking privately to a group of donors today. and the tape was released by someone. he spoke about trump. he said trump kisses dictators' butts, he sells out our allies, he mocks evangelicals, he flirts with white supremacists, he treats the presidency like a business opportunity, and spends like a drunken sailor. is that something -- are those conversations that are had privately between republicans about donald trump? >> jimmy, just one thing. you know, one time i said, when

i was in the congress, that some -- we were spinning like a drunken sailor. i got a letter from a lady, she said, i'm deeply offended because my husband is a drunken sailor. [ laughter ] nonetheless, here's what's concerning to me. what's been concerning to me is that my party, the republican party, has ceased to be a party of ideas. whether it's on the environment, whether it's on health care, whether it's on debt. they still don't have a health care plan. you know, when i was in congress, and even as governor, i always thought, you lead with ideas. sometimes you'll be criticized for them. but it's been disappointing that they haven't stood up. the democrats could have a really good election this time, but they've got to make sure they don't veer far left, jimmy. because i think, you know, the practicality of our country is people coming in the middle and growing the base from the middle out, not the extremes in. if the republicans don't get their act together, and if the democrats go far left, i think there's room for a third-party in america.

i think it could actually happen. i think the ground is fertile for that. we just have to wait and see. >> jimmy: governor, does it surprise or disappoint you that trump goes around talking about this election as if it is fixed, as if mail-in ballots are going to be a disaster? this is something that we all know that there's no evidence to support that. if there was -- >> that's correct. >> jimmy: -- we would certainly know about it. yet no prominent sitting republicans that i know of have stood up and said, hold on a second, this is not true, mail in your ballots, it's perfectly fine. the consequences of people feeling that they were slighted when they went to the polls are really -- are potentially very dangerous. >> jimmy, think about this. if when these results are in, we will have as many -- maybe as much as 20% of the public saying that the election was not legitimate. if you have a situation like

that and people don't legitimize the election, that is a very dangerous road we go down. so the president by -- first of all, he hurt his own supporters by saying that this is all fraud, because now they're not going to vote by mail. and, you know, the democrats are voting by mail in avalanche numbers. but secondly, to create and sow discord and doubt about the legitimacy of a presidential election, it's dangerous, and it should never have happened. and here in ohio, we've had mail-in voting for like 15 years. and they do it well. and we've found no instances of fraud. that's just a big joke. and it's wrong. >> jimmy: well, thank you, governor, for speaking up about this stuff. i always enjoy talking to you. and will you go to the inauguration if biden wins? >> i think i'll probably be right here in ohio. >> jimmy: okay. >> you know, watching it on television. enough is enough. i'm hoping my party will get back on its feet, we'll see.

i'm still a republican. i'm a conservative. but i think it's really important that -- listen, for everybody who's watching, look. america works best from the bottom up. so when the public has a clear voice, they tell the lawmakers what they want, and they get what they want. but when the public's fighting with one another, a clear voice cannotemerge. i just beg you to start -- stop reading just what you agree with. read something else and come together. remember, we're all made in the image of the lord. respect one another. >> jimmy: governor john kasich. thank you, governor. we'll be right back with foo fighters!

>> dicky: music on "jimmy kimmel live" is presented by crown royal, who is helping support bars, stages and clubs in danger of being lost forever. visit mainstreetalliance.org to learn more. >> jimmy: thanks to josh gad and john kasich. apologies to matt damon. "nightline" is next. but first, you can see them play the online sos fest saturday. here with their classic "learn to fly," from the troubadour in

west hollywood, foo fighters! ♪ ♪ ♪ run and tell all of the angels ♪ ♪ this could take all night think i need a devil ♪ ♪ to help me get things right ♪ ♪ hook me up a new revolution because this one is a lie ♪ ♪ we sat around laughing and watched the last one die ♪ ♪ i'm looking to the sky to save me ♪ ♪ looking for a sign of life ♪ looking for something help me burn out bright ♪

♪ looking for a complication looking till i'm tired of trying ♪ ♪ make my way back home when i learn to fly ♪ ♪ think i'm done nursing the patience ♪ ♪ i can wait one night i'd give it all away ♪ ♪ if you give me one last try ♪ ♪ we'll live happily ever trapped ♪ ♪ if you just save my life run and tell the angels ♪ ♪ that everything is all right ♪ ♪ i'm looking to the sky to save me ♪ ♪ looking for a sign of life looking for something help ♪ ♪ me burn out bright

i'm looking for ♪ ♪ a complication looking till i'm tired of trying ♪ ♪ make my way back home when i learn to fly ♪ ♪ make my way back home when i learn to fly along with me i can't quite make it alone ♪ ♪ trying to make this life my own ♪ ♪ fly along with me i can't quite make it alone ♪ ♪ try to make this life my own ♪ looking to the sky to save me looking for a sign of life ♪ ♪ looking for something to help me burn out bright ♪ ♪ looking for a complication

looking till i'm tired of trying ♪ ♪ make my way back home when and i learn to looking to the sky to save me ♪ ♪ looking for a sign of life looking for something to help me burn out bright ♪ ♪ looking for a complication looking till i'm tired of trying ♪ ♪ make my way back home and i learn to fly ♪ ♪ make my way back home and i learn to fly ♪ ♪ make my way back home and i learn to ♪

this is "nightline." tonight, dueling town halls. and different styles. joe biden and donald trump making their case. >> the words of a president matter. >> hey, i'm president. i have to see people. i can't be in a basement. >> competing from two different battleground states. >> what is your plan for either extending the tax cuts for the middle class or creating a new plan that further reduces those taxes? >> what do you have to say to young black voters? >> if a vaccine would approved, would you take it? >> the covid-19 crisis front and center. >> i go to every local official, say mandate the mask. >> i'm good with masks. i'm okay with masks. i tell people, wear masks. >> as biden gains ground inhe