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world in 90 seconds. >> she's got experience but it's bad experience and this country can't afford to have another four years of that kind of experience. >> trump and clinton face off at the debate. >> i know you live in your own reality, but that is not the facts. >> we don't have the money because it's been squandered on so many of your ideas. >> maybe because you haven't paid any federal income tax for a lot of years and -- >> you're telling everything you want to do. no wonder you've been fighting isis your entire adult life. >> this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs. >> typical politician. all talk, no action. >> you know, i've never seen one where the decorum broke down the way that it did tonight. >> there's no playbook for this. >> the florida marlins returned to the ball field, their first game since the death of jose fernandez.

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welcome to "cbs this morning." the world is reacting to the first debate between donald trump and hillary clinton. >> the much awaited showdown was hard fought reflecting the closeness of the presidential race. both candidates traded a series of attacks. they offered very different visions of the next four years. >> so this morning we're going to ask their running mates for both candidates what they also, our political team is tracking the candidates' next moves, fact checking last night's statements and analyzing who came out ahead. first, major garrett is here with the most important moments from the debate. major, good morning. >> good morning. like so many other moments in this unpredictable campaign, the debate defied conventional patterns. the second half more revealing than the first and specifics mattered as much as style. those in trump's inner circle worried afterward that hillary clinton scored more points than

have to bounce back to keep this race close. >> reporter: despite opening pleasantries. >> secretary clinton, yes? is that okay? good. >> reporter: donald trump and hillary clinton wasted little time clashing over who is an agent of change. >> well, you haven't done it in 30 years or 26 years. >> well, i've been a senator, donald. >> you haven't done it. >> i have been a secretary of state. >> excuse me. >> reporter: and who is physically fit to serve as president. >> she doe't >> as soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace deal or even spends 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina. >> the world -- let me tell you -- >> reporter: asked why he won't release his tax returns, trump deflected by raising the scandal that's dogged clinton for months. >> i will release my tax returns against my lawyer's wishes when

that have been deleted. as soon as she releases them, i will release. >> reporter: clinton suggested trump was hiding something and said he may have paid no federal income tax at all. >> that makes me smart. >> he paid zero, that means zero for troops, zero for vets, zero for schools or health. >> reporter: pressed on his five-year crusade to prove president obama was born outside of the united states, trump struggled to explain his recent change of heart. >> i t a great service not only for the country but even for the president in getting him to produce his birth certificate. >> secretary clinton. >> he tried to put the whole racist birther lie to bed but it can't be dismissed that easily. >> reporter: unprompted, trump also addressed one of his persistent weaknesses. >> i think my strongest asset maybe by far is my temperament. i have a winning temperament.

past dealings with racial discrimination and coarse stakes about women. >> this is a man who has called women 3igs, slobs, dogs. >> reporter: trump said those barbs were aimed at one person in particular. >> rosie o'donnell, i said very tough things to her and i think everyone would agree that she deserves it and nobody feels sorry for her. >> reporter: after the debate trump told me he would participate in the final two debates. i also asked trump why he called president obama your president. trum h disrespect and considers president obama everyone's commander in chief. gayle? >> all right. thank you, major. the candidates go straight back to that campaign trail today. hillary clinton heads to north carolina. donald trump will be in florida. nancy cordes is in white planes, new york, with how both camps are trying to spin the debate. >> reporter: the clinton campaign are not holding back. they're using words like deranged, unhinged, to describe

already up with an ad that highlights trump's performance having a temperament. a line that drew a laugh from the audience last night. the trump campaign, on the other hand, argues that his comments about trade creating job losses actually resonate with voters much more than beltway types lielz and they insist that he actually showed great restraint last night by not talking, for example, about bill clinton's history with trump himself was up late into the night tweeting about online polls that showed that he had won but these are polls that anyone can vote in as often as they like and a few legitimate polls and focus groups that have been conducted so far show the opposite. >> nancy, getting ready to get up on that plane. thank you so much. the presidential candidates dared reporters to fact check them and we did. we found both of them stretched the truth. they both denied saying things

washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. trump once again claims he can't release his tax returns because they're being audited and that he never supported the iraq war. with a potentially record audience both candidates made new questionable statements on other matters including trade and isis. >> you're telling the enemy everything you want to do. >> no, we're not. >> you're telling the enemy we want to do. no wonder you've been fighting -- no wonder you've been fighting isis your adult life >> reporter: al qaeda and isis became the same. >> stop and frisk has ruled unconstitutional in new york because it largely singled out black and hispanic young -- >> no, you're wrong.

it was taken away from her. >> reporter: not quite. in 2013 a district judge ruled it was unconstitutional saying stop and frisk violated the constitution. >> now you want to approve trans-pacific partnership. >> reporter: clinton downplayed her past dealings when she was secretary of state. >> that is just not accurate. i was against it once it was finally negotiated and i wrote about that in -- >> you called it the gold standard. >> well, i -- >> you called it the gold standard of trade deals. >> reporter: "the new york times" backed up trump's claims and said clinton spoke out more than 40 times in favor of the t.p.p. clinton also raised the issue of how trump treats the women who work for him. >> this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs and someone who has said pregnancy

employers. >> reporter: trump denied the charge, but on the question of maternal leave he said this in 2004. >> pregnancy is never -- it's a wonderful thing for the woman, it's a wonderful thing for the husband. it's certainly an inconvenience for a business. >> reporter: clinton dinged donald trump for previously saying that global warming is a hoax perpetuated by the chinese. he denied this but did tweet it in 2012. clinton says her jobs plan will create 10 million jobs and cites moody's analytics. those are fully cooperating, a tall order for whoever becomes the next president. >> thanks, julianna. democratic vice presidential candidate tim cane joins us from orlando, florida. good morning. >> great to be with you guys. >> the two candidates went into the debate dead even. now this morning, the morning after, did it change anything in perceptions or will it have a likely impact on the polls? >> well, i think it changed

watching that debate clearly saw that hillary clinton was very, very well prepared for the debate and prepared to be president, and what they saw about donald trump was that he lacks specifics other than attacks and he was easily rattled, and that was very, very apparent throughout the debate and the longer the debate went on, the more apparent that was. >> have you had a chance to talk to her after the debate? did you get a chance with her? >> i did. we chatted, i don't know, probably about maybe 45 minut >> what did she say? >> she felt good about it. well, she felt good about it. i told her i thought on demeanor she absolutely dominated it. in terms of looking presidential, while trump kind of got flustered and really kind of ran out of gas, and i talked about the fact that she offered details and plans and he didn't. he left a lot of questions unanswered, especially to questions about his taxes and even suggested that his strategy

showed how smart he was. >> what do you think was her best moment? >> you know, i think her best moment was her answer when donald trump tried to deflect his comments about her appearance to suggest that he was critiquing her stamina. she said you go to 120 countries and sit in front of a house committee for 11 hours and talk about stamina. just the split screen, she was going strong and he was out of gas by that point and that was very obvious. >> speaking of the end of the debate, at that moment, too, trump then brought up some of the ads that your campaign is running against him saying they're not very nice, and then he ominously said, i was going to say something extremely rough to hillary and her family where did you think he was going there? >> that was one of the weird things. i had no idea what he was talking about. he got into an extended segment about rosie o'donnell. what did that have to do with

question about cyber security and russian cyber attacks, he jumped in oddly and said we don't even know. russia may not be behind those attacks. there were some items at the end of the debate that were random nonsequiturs. i had no idea what he was talking about at the end. >> when you look at the idea about trust which was an issue for her, did that change? did she do anything to assure those people who had questions of trust? and d judgment? >> yeah. it seemed like they were kind of a pair of trust issues got put on the table last night. she got asked about the e-mail situation and she just looked right in the camera and said, i made a mistake, and i apologize for it. and the fbi's done an investigation and concluded that there are no additional steps that need to be taken. donald got quizzed on a trust issue about why were you perpetrating this bigoted lie about president obama's not being a united states citizen

incredibly convoluted. no apology, no recognition that this is a painful thing to say in a nation wherefore generations african-americans were not allowed to be citizens of the united states until we added the 14th amendment to the constitution. she dealt with the trust issue head on, said i've made a mistake, i've learned from it, i take full responsibility. but when he was confronted with a trust question he could not own up to his responsibility and the fact that he had p >> in fact, senator, in secretary clinton's response on that very issue, the birther issue, she used the word racist three times to describe donald trump. she said he has a long record of engaging in racist behavior. do you believe he's a racist? >> i don't know donald trump. i've never met him so i'm not going to make that comment about him, but i will tell you absolutely the claim that he

citizen is an absolutely bigoted and racist lie. >> thank you, senator kaine. >> absolutely. thanks so much, guys. >> thank you. in our next hour republican vice presidential nominee mike pence will be in studio 57 with his reactions to last night's debate. that's ahead on "cbs this morning." face the nation moderator john dickerson was there last night and he's here this >> suburban women. they're leaning towards women. did donald trump succeed in winning them back? >> this is a big group for donald trump. he had to show that he had the temperament, judgment, could occupy the office of presidency. debates are the closest we come to a formal activity that looks kind of like the presidency. i think both in the debate with the interruptions, the bombast, that was essentially a debate version of donald trump in those big arenas.

they love that bluntness, but i think for that group there's nothing in the debate that would give them confidence. >> i kept thinking towards the end of the debate there was a lot of micro targeting going on. that's a phrase that's used where the candidate speaks specifically to dem graphics, her bringing up the race several times, also bringing up what he has said about women. very deliberate on her part. >> absolutely. deliberate also, particularly for her supporters. one of the things she had to do, two groups she had to work with. one is the supporters and the other swing groups who traditionally vote republican. with her supporters in particular there are lines that are getting passed around at the debate, particularly her one about stamina and the one about women that will be played over and over again and that will increase enthusiasm over democrats which she has weakness. >> trump comes into this as the change candidate, everybody knows that as you suggested. the question raised about him, is he fit to be president? >> right. >> did that question have any change to it? >> well, usually when we talk

an abstract idea in debates. viewers could get an actual vision of the two different temperaments. >> it was showing, not telling. >> side by side. >> side by side, in the same shot, and now also in what lives on after the debate. and so when you watch the two clips of them talking and donald trump is passionate, heated, rallied donald trump and hillary clinton is different than that, then people are getting a -- can take their own measurement of temperament right t i >> did you think any of them had any game changing moments? donald trump said i am the most qualified. i have the best temperament ever to be president of the united states. >> well, the thing is you can measure that against his actual behavior in the debate. >> bringing up rosie o'donnell. >> that's right. and there was -- >> fact checking. >> hillary clinton, you know, was not telling the truth about the gold standard on a trade, but donald trump had a great many more things that he said that were not true, specifically

fiction in that, and that's different than saying, you know, misstating something or spinning something. >> do you think he'll participate in other debates, john? he seemed pretty proud of his performance. >> he does seem proud. i don't think he can get out of the other debates. >> in fact, he told major garrett that he would, in fact, participate. >> yeah, now giuliani is saying he shouldn't. >> rudy giuliani -- >> the drama will continue. >> he should not participate. >> thank you so much f here. great job last night. the next debate with tim kaine and mike pence is next week. the moderator will be elaine cuillano. devastating flooding devastates parts of the midwest. cedar rapids faces what could be the second biggest fliooding in history.

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hillary was happiest when donald trump attacked her for having a bad temperment. >> i also have a much better temperament than she has. there's aer temperament that's got a problem. >> secretary clinton. >> whew. okay! [ laughter ] >> that's how an aunt shimmys when she hears "single ladies" at a wedding. >> you could see when she got asked the questions she got a shimmy there. whew. me, words, words give me all the words, words, words. she was feeling it.

"words, words, words" again. >> that shimmy, that's funny. welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up in this half hour, undecided voters watched last night's debate with dials in hand. frank luntz gathered a focus group in the battleground state of pennsylvania. you'll see whether the candidates swayed these voters. plus cops with a checkered past. a lack of oversight allows tr department. what one woman is doing to keep called gypsy cops off the street. "the wall street journal" under states his profits at a congressional hearing. $100 for a two-pack. after questioned by the journal, mylan said it included taxes. the actual profit is $166. "the washington post" reports on a rise in violent climb in murders last year.

u.s. increased more than 10% in 2015 over the year before. violent crime went up nearly 4%. but crime rates are still far lower than they were during the '80s and the early '90s. and the charlotte observer reports on an emotional statement from a little girl at a city council meeting last night. it couplings after the deadly shooting of keith lamont scott, a black man. she made a tearful plea. >> i never now. it's a shame that our mothers and mothers are killed and we can't see them anymore. it's a shame that we have to go to their graveyard and bury them. and we have tears.

you know, kids see things. and they feel it much more acutely sometimes than adults do. >> you could certainly feel compassion, feel for that girl, because she's echoing what a lot of people are feeling in charlotte, north carolina. it's heartbreaking to watch her. >> the expression of graveyard. >> that's not what children should be thinking about at this time in their lives. it's heartbreaking to watch protesters called for resignations. a group of voters from the battleground state of pennsylvania is telling us volumes about the first presidential debate. cbs news contributor and

debate. they all watched the debate and then they talked about it. >> tell the american people which of the two candidates impacted your votes more. raise your hand if it's donald trump. one, two, three, four, five -- six. raise your hand if it was hillary clinton. 16 to 6. i want a word or phrase to describe donald trump's performance tonight. >> strong start. weak finish. >> missed opportunities. >> bombastic. >> >> sloppy. >> i want a phrase to describe hillary clinton's performance. >> prepared. >> firm. >> same old, same old. >> when she responded about her e-mails you weren't happy with him about that but you were mad over the tax returns, why? >> she at least went ahead and says she takes responsibility for something wrong where he, again, continued to deny any wrongdoing. >> i want to focus on her performance now.

but she's got so much traction that covers it up. >> where does she do so well or trump do so well? somebody, yes. >> recently, he's been very good with speeches. his appearances no attacks just told himself and his plan instead of attacking. tonight, he went back to attack. >> go ahead. >> trump impacted my vote in favor of hillary because he was completely offensive. he lost me on the racial unity. and that's where i draw the like you're literally going to die as soon as you step outside. that's just not true. >> donald trump is standing where i am right now. what do you tell him? >> i tell them to answer the question that is asked of him and then stop talking. >> do you guys agree with that? >> yes. >> frank luntz is here joins us at the table to discuss. going into this debate, everybody -- the two candidates were neck and neck. what mattered most to the voters, what were they looking

trump that he was presidential. what they meant was, sthey wantd to feel like he has a grasp of the issues. they wanted to see more from him. for her, they wanted to see candor, they wanted to see who they felt they could trust. they got some of that with clinton. they did not get what they were looking for from trump. it wasn't that hillary clinton won the debate, they felt that trump lost the debate. it bothered them that he k interrupting lester holt and ignored him. it bothered them that he kept taking shots at hillary clinton. the difference is she took shots at him. they were well prepared. i think she had one of the best debate preps that i have seen in the last 25 years. virtually, every comment she made about him, voters didn't mind it and it clearly got under his skin. >> do you think he was prepared? >> yes, for the first 20 or 30 minutes.

minutes was very different than the last 30. it's all about preparation. it just kept getting worse. worse. the last 30 minutes, the bencher, the tax returns, they were mad at him. >> on that very topic of tax returns, during the debate, red line show trump leading voters. green line shows clinton leading voters. yellow line undecided. let's take a look at the reaction when trump talked about releasing tax >> i will release my tax returns against my lawyers' wishes. when she releases her 33,000 e-mails that have been deleted. as soon as she releases them, i will release -- i will release my tax returns. and that's against my lawyers, they say, don't do it. >> explain what we're seeing there, frank. >> that was a tremendous response. see, in the end, by 2 to 1, voters were more concerned by

that's national security, rather than what's in the tax returns because that's personal. frank list, they don't believe he's as wealthy as he says he is. he doesn't believe he pays the taxes that he says he does. >> they want to see his tax returns? >> they want to see his tax returns. here's what i don't understand - they were more turned off by her e-mails than the tax returns? >> that's the point. when he turns it to her e-mails, but what does he do, goes back to his tax returns. >> did you take a look at what he did when he talked about the birther issue. here it is. >> the birth certificate was produced in 2011, you continue to tell the story and question the president's legitimacy in 2012, 2013, 2014, as recently as january. the question is what changed it now? >> nobody was pressing. nobody was caring much about it.

tonight, of course. but nobody was caring much about it. i was the one that got him to produce the birth certificate. and i think i did a good job. >> no, he did not do a good job. that was one of the lowest moments in the entire debate. every time he's talking about that issue he's losing because it looks like he's challenging barack obama's character. and he's on the defense. and if that's what he talks about between now and election day he cannot succeed. >> of the 27 undecided voter how many for were clinton in the jend. >> the end, 16 thought that clinton moved them 6 thought trump moved them. the rest not moved at all. some police officers with questionable pasts are being hired by different departments. ahead, one woman's quest to weed out gypsy cops after an unfair arrest. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment

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place to keep problem cops off the streets. good morning. >> good morning. they are known as gypsy cops, police officers with questionable records that leave one department only to be hired at another, and one officer remains on the payroll in ferguson, missouri where one woman says enough is enough. >> where did this happen? >> it happened right here right outside of my house. >> reporter: last november 43-year-old angelique kidd was approached by police officer eddie boyd after a hit and run another her home in ferguson, missouri. >> he said you have to get out of here, you have to go, or something like that. and then i said, what was your name? and that's when he arrested me. >> and why did you want to know his name? >> i felt that i needed that information because he just -- he wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing. >> and so you were arrested because of disobeying the officer's orders? >> that's the charge. >> reporter: that charge is still pending. in december she filed a lawsuit claiming the arrest violated her

anxiety, depression and emotional distress. kidd's suit is the latest for officer boyd. in 2004 and 2005 boyd was accused of physical abuse in two separate incidents. neither of the complains were sustained. in 2006 boyd was accused of pistol whipping a 12-year-old girl and falsifying a police report. boyd was demoted. the following year he was boy. boyd resigned and was later acquitted. >> i mean, i'm disgusted. i'm -- like it's not right. for a police officer to be somewhere and have these horrible charges brought against him and then instead of getting fired, to be allowed to resign, and then come work in a different department. >> reporter: just last month, retired librarian, mary notten

police demonstration in florida. although ruled an accident, cole was already under investigation where he allowed his canine to maul a cyclist during a traffic stop in 2015. two years before that cole was a rookie cop when he resigned amid allegations of using excessive force during an arrest caught an surveillance tape. >> i started in '71 sgll roger goldman is a law professor and expert on police lice needed for police departments looking to hire. >> there is tremendous opposition by police unions to have any kind of reform. i know of many cases where the chief will agree not to say anything negative in order for that person to resign. >> reporter: both boyd and the ferguson police declined our request for an interview, but in a statement to cbs this morning, the department said they've made important revisions to their hiring practices, including a

prior work history, consultation with applicant's previous employers and a criminal background check. >> what would you like to see happen to officer boyd? >> i would like to see him fired. i would like that information to follow him everywhere to where he would not be allowed to be a police officer anymore. >> reporter: the department of justice told cbs news that plans are under way to launch a nationwide database to track decertified officers. experts say the nation's estimated 18,000 police departments to participate. you have national databases for physicians. you have them for attorneys, why not have them for police officers. >> you have them for tv. this is so surprising to me. there's no reference checking. there's nothing on your resume that says, look, we better check if what they're saying is true. >> i'm sure they have reference checking but a lot of times it's personnel issues where an employer can't disclose why they fired you but if there's a big incident that makes national

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? good morning to our viewers in the west. it is tuesday, september 27th, 2016. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there's more real news ahead including donald trump and hillary clinton on the attack in their first debate. we'll look at the key he's here. first, here's the eye opener at 8:00. >> like so many other moments, the debate defied conventional patterns. >> the clinton campaign is using words like deranged and unhinged to describe trump's performance last night. >> potentially record audience last night, both candidates made new questionable statements on other matters including trade and isis. >> have you had a chance to talk to her?

she absolutely dominated it, while trump kind of got flustered and really ran out of gas. >> the question raised about him, is he fit to be president? >> we talk about temperament, usually it is an abstract idea. in the debate last night, viewers could get a vision of the two different temperaments. >> i tell him to answer the question asked of him and then stop talking. >> do you agree with that? >> yeah. >> is wasn't that hillary clinton won the debate. they thought donald trump lost the this. >> you haven't done it. >> i have been secretary of state. >> but you have no plan. >> educate -- oh, i do. >> you heard what i said about it and all of a sudden you were against it. >> well, donald, i know you live in your own reality. >> welcome to the real life version of twitter, people. i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. hillary clinton and donald trump

today after last night's hard hitting debate. in their first head to head meeting, the two argued over how to heal racial tensions and defeat isis. >> some of their biggest disagreements centered on their economic plans and donald trump's not yet released tax returns. >> under my plan, i'll be reducing taxes tremendously from 35% to 15% for companies, small and big businesses. that's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since ronald about what's best for growing the economy. how we make investments that will actually produce jobs and rising incomes. i think we come at it from somewhat different perspectives. i understand that. donald was very fortunate in his life, and that's all to his benefit. he started his business with $14 million, borrowed from his father, and he really believes that the more you help wealthy people, the better off we'll be

out from there. i don't buy that. >> my father gave me a very small loan in 1975 and i built it into a company that is worth many, many, many billions of dollars with some of the greatest assets in the world. and i say that only because that's the kind of thinking that our country needs. >> why won't he release his tax returns? and i think there may be a couple of reasons. first, maybe he's not as rich as he says he is. second, maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to wall street and foreign banks. or maybe he doesn't want the american people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes because the only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license and they

income tax. so -- >> that makes me smart. >> that means zero for troops, zero for vets, zero for schools or health. >> i have a great company. i have a tremendous income and the reason i say that is not in a braggadocio way, it is because it is about time that this country had somebody running it that has an idea about money. >> with us now, indiana governor mike pence, republican nominee for vice president. >> you're smile iing about whats going on. >> it was a good debate. my running mate had a great night. >> good? >> yeah. >> do you agree with the idea he was better at the beginning but as the debate wore on it was less good for him? >> well, no, no. i think what people saw last night was donald trump being himself. answering the questions. he was driving forward on the issues that matter most to the american people.

hillary clinton brings a style of 30 years in public life, and, you know, a well scripted politician, donald trump just speaks right from his mind, from his heart and that's the reason why we have so much momentum in this campaign. i was sitting on front row there with such a privilege for me and my wife, but what was exciting for me was just to see donald trump as himself, relaxed, even in front of 100 million people. they got a real good look at the donald trump -- >> one of the things he says, he was getting hammered hillary clinton as we showed about the taxes and not leasing his tax returns and he said that makes me smart, about the question of not paying taxes. did he confirm last night he does not pay taxs? >> oh, gosh, no. >> it appears that way. >> yeah, he said afterwards, he said afterwards he's paid federal taxes. i think the reason why donald trump had a great night is because from the very get-go, he was talking about the issues the american people care about. we're in the midst of a

>> i don't want to get off of the tax question for a second. why would you want voters to think you don't pay taxes? why would you want to leave that impression in any way, shape or form? >> this is a business man. and, you know, hillary clinton, you know, her three different guesses about his taxes when he's -- she knows he's filed 100 pages of financial disclosure information that is available on the internet as the law requires, but speculating that maybe he didn't pay as muc i taxes, i think he's joked in the past about, you know, that like any good business man, he works to pay as little taxes as he can. >> i remember -- >> i think what really happened last night was this difference in style between someone who literally embodies the status quo and somebody who really embodied the kind of change and the kind of leadership that up end washington, d.c. and change the direction of this

republicans in the past. the current poll shows they're favoring hillary clinton. there was a moment at the end of the debate last night which hillary clinton seemed to goad and go at donald trump's past statements. i want to play that and get your reaction. >> this is a man who has called women, pigs, slobs, and dogs. and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers, who has said that women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good men. >> hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials, some of it said in entertainment, some of it said somebody who has been very vicious to me, rosie o'donnell, i said tough things to her and i think everybody would agree she deserved it and nobody feels sorry for her. >> he doubled down saying rosie o'donnell, she deserved it. what did you make of that exchange? >> it culminated an evening that was an avalanche of personal insults from hillary clinton.

she spent twice as much time insulting and attacking donald trump as she did talking about her own agenda. and that was just the culmination of it. i have to tell you, i was so proud of the fact that he demonstrated that quality that is -- i think most important in a president, and that is restraint. in that moment, donald trump demonstrated the restraint and the temperament that the american people knows is required for the presidency. >> because he said he wanted to bring -- what do restraint, because he brought up about the clinton attack. >> one insult after another culminating in that round at the end, and donald trump literally just completely open and transparent with the american people said there is things i could bring up, we all know what they are, we all live through the 1990s, and he just said i'm not going to do it. i think there you saw in him the restraint and the temperament that will make for a great

>> no, i didn't perceive that at all. >> gayle and i didn't notice it either, but people were picking up that he had a sniffle. >> yeah, i didn't hear it at all. i really didn't. i thought he literally took command of the stage. and literally drove the agenda toward jobs, the economy, growth. the focus on trade, i have to tell you, when you see the enormous crowds that come out, when i'm campaigning with donald trump, or even thedr out there campaigning on my own, he is speaking into this moment for the kind of change the american people want and hillary clinton last night, 30 years in public life, was just well scripted presentation of the status quo. and that's why i think donald trump had a great night. >> he's always -- >> talking about the birther issue and other issues that have gotten him into trouble in the past. and was he persistent about that

rereeleased or because it had political impact? >> charlie, to be honest with you, the media over the last several years continued to bring up that issue and donald trump put it to a rest a couple of weeks ago once and for all. throughout this campaign, he's been focused for the american people are focused. the last seven and a half years weakened america's place in the world, stifled america's economy. we have seen a supreme court that now literally hangs in the balance in this electio donald trump has been speaking about those things that everyday americans are most concerned about. he did that again last night, even though there were these side bar issues. i will tell you, while issues like that came up from the moderator, and other issues, it is remarkable to many of us the things like benghazi, the clinton foundation, e-mails, the fbi. >> you had the last word. >> we have to go. >> always uniquely himself.

>> presidential candidates are often judged on more than what they actually say.

a new study shows women are being penalized for asking for a raise or promotion at work. a new study shows women are being penalized for asking for a promotion at work. ahead, facebook sha sandberg will be in studio 57. you're watching "cbs this morning." how women in the workplace are more likely to be called bossy.

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? the candidates will spend more time trying to engage in the handshake. i know it sounds ludicrous, but there's all this psychology who seems more in control of the hae. >> veteran political strategists dan seymour and michael feldman showed us last week exactly what goes into the debate prep. they carefully watched their candidates it all began with that handshake between donald trump and hillary clinton. dan and mike are here with their impressions and how they reacted. let's start with the handshake. people make their decision in the first 15 minutes of the debate.

>> she said good to see you. >> as a xenophobe and all of this, how do you shake your hand. the whole thing is i'm not here to fight, i'm here to make a case, but at the same time, she was there to push the buttons and undermine himself. and i think she did a good job. and bad trade deals. i think if he stuck to that he could have won the debate but by her pushing his buttons he got way out of hand. >> mike, do you agree? >> yeah, she occupied more of that real estate than he did. on issues she needs to communicate to voters and distinct voters. she was communicating to women, and by scoring more points with

him off his strategy. the first 15 or 20 minutes i was worried that he might actually be completely contained in the debate. by the end he was off that strategy if he ever had one. >> mike, you advised al gore, and he was criticized because he sighed a lot during the debate. we saw personal reactions by donald trump. the sniffling, the drinking of the water. do those matter? >> they do, particularly since the bush campaign made it more about size than substance. if you scored on points, al gore probably would have won the debate. a week later, he lost the debate. i'm not sure that particular issue, snifflegate is going to leave a lasting impression. it's a little distracting. >> as someone who has advised marco rubio and paul ryan, i'm particularly sensitive. i couldn't believe how much he

i agree it doesn't matter that much. but i will say this, for the last few weeks trump has made stamina a big issue. and it was breaking through. he kept hammering this point about her health issues. last night she stood in front of a massive audience and she looked energetic. she looked upbeat. she looked like she was brimming with ideas. she looked like she was ready to prosecute. he was the one sniffling and guzzling water. that issue is over. >> clearly, there was debate prep for him, did he not follow advice? or do you think he said i'll do my own thing? >> i think somewhere in between. he was prepared. notice he called her secretary clinton last night. not hillary. he did deliver lines that he clearly prepared. he made the argument for change broadly speaking. but she was able to draw him off the strategy and that means he wasn't prepped enough.

not surprises. >> i think it said in the paper there's psychological warfare that hillary clinton attempted last night and it worked. on what particular issue did you see that? >> if you looked at the primaries, they studied the republican primary debates from what i understand. if you look at rubio in houston. he pushed trump on whether or not a self-made man, born on third base and made all of his money. trump goes crazy on taxes. i think she systematically went in with those two points and pushed and he like clockwork went crazy. >> but he didn't challenge he paid no federal taxes. >> he basically confirmed he paid no federal taxes. she laid out three cases only four reasons, they're not as rich as they say he is. not as charitable or he paid zero federal taxes. he said that makes me smart.

>> by contrast on the e-mails the vulnerability of hers, in and out in two minutes. >> yeah. >> she explained it and got out. she didn't get into the anthropology of it. >> a missed opportunity on his part. >> good to have you both. int anthropology of it. young musicians from one of the communities. have a snickers?. why? because you get confused when you're hungry. better. [ male announcer ] you're not you when you're hungry?. snickers? is halloween satisfaction. i don't want to live with [ male announcer ] you're not you when you're hungry?. the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients... ...who've had no prior treatment. it transformed treatment as the first cure that's... ...one pill, once a day

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34,000 employees. women who negotiate are kevin more likely than women who don't to receive feedback that their personal style is intimidating, too aggressive or bossy. sheryl sandberg is here. welcome back. >> great to see you. >> there's a lot of positive in the report. first of all, you negotiating more than ever for raises but doesn't always work. >> no that's right. this is the most comprehensive study that's done over year of women in the u.s. workforce, it represents 4.6 million workers. so, there's some bad institution and there's some good news. the bad news is women are not getting that very critical promotion to manager at the same rate as men. a man is 30% more likely to get that first promotion into

see women underrepresented at all levels. it starts earlier than people think. that's women overall. for women of color, we know it's even worse and that starts at the beginning, too. here's the good news. the good news the survey for the first time show that women are negotiating for salaries and promotions at the same rate of men. when negotiating, they're getting better outcomes. make no mistake about it. you're not going to get what you asked for. they are pushing >> when are they penalized being called bossy or aggressive versus men or not? >> well, in the study -- >> in 2016. >> in 2016, we process information very quickly. if i'm looking at a lion by the time i deductively think, huh, tail, fur, running at me, i'm

when i see a lion, i run. we organize, get things done. we expect women to be emotional giving. that's why when a woman negotiateses on behalf of someone else, but for herself, we instinctively don't like it. and that's me unfortunately tell our sons to man up and not cry. yes. we want women to be able to lead and get results and become ceos emotional and full caregivers at home. >> what do the numbers show about that, how many people are working at home as well? both working outside of home and at home, who does that? >> well, mostly women. mostly women are working inside the home. men as a full-time caregiver estimated at 4% to 10%. but what's interesting here, what we're seeing is that women want to be leaders. men want to be caregivers. and i think what we need to do

people to narrow gender stereotypes but instead, we let individuals make those decisions. >> sheryl, one of the ideas for women getting credit for how they feel at work. this was even facing women in the obama white house. the women in the obama white house had to decide collectively, oh that is a really good idea, gayle or sheryl, in order to get for that. why does that persist? >> women and men tend to give men credit for ideas. women, even as managers, women get interrupted more, again, focused on what we can do. 132 companies who participated in this study, they know they need to do better which is why they participated. and they know they're going to outperform their peers and other companies if they get all of the it on the table. if you're a woman, you can

know, i'd really like to hear what she had to say. we're seeing that happen. >> what's that famous warren buffett quote, if you're not using the equal percentage of the population, women in the workplace, your company is not going to be doing very well. warren buffett said that, one of the most successful investors in the world. >> he tells company to use the full population, because that's how you're going to outperform. >> so, why did this data out? did you want to prove a point? do you want companies to change or how is this data being used? >> women have been basically 5% or less at fortune 500 companies for a decade. we thought women were making progress and we are. better than my mother's generation. it has fallen down in the last decade. so what women are doing, we're surveying every single year so

progress. so these can make progress and see what's going on. we're not at the top to change the numbers at the top because we do not get women getting the same percentages as men into that first promotion. and we also have women in stockholds. they're really important, but they're not often the roles that get promoted to ceos. if we want to change the fortune 500 5%, we're going to have to study, you talk to people at all different levels from the top people to the entry level. i'm curious about men in the study, so they say we need to do better? this isn't right? >> across the board they know they need to do better. obviously, there's a range but the best performers from entry level to ceos, they know if they

they're going to be outdo their peers. >> let's talk about facebook. how is advertising on facebook, that has been driving some of the profits, right? >> well, i'm here in new york for ad week and we're excited to announce today that we have 4 million advertisers. that's up from 3 million we announced i think on your snow in march. that's real good. i think that's businesses, mostly small businesses know that people are on their mobile phones. the average smartphone owner is times a day. for anyone who has a teenager, we know it can be more. but if it's a secure business and you want to reach people were they are, you need to be on mobile. a third of small businesses don't even have a web page. and building a mobile app is way harder into your investment. >> it's recently reported that facebook overestimated how many people and how long they were looking at videos. what happened there with the correction being made?

businesses to grow results so we're focused on that all the time. what happened about a month ago, we discovered an error in one of our videos. it wasn't the one that we were viewing advertisers on but we take trust seriously. as soon as we found it, we went to our client and let them know we have this mistake and we are fixing it. it's also why we work hard to rely on third party relationships. we just don't write on facebook. it's not just owned by facebook, but often third at the end of the day, small businesses use them as product top shelves. so what they're focused on and what we're focused on is using that mobile phone that people are checking on three times a day and to reach customers and provide great service. >> every time somebody sees you, sheryl, they say, there she is? she looks good. how is sheryl sandberg doing. >> i'm doing okay. thank you for asking.

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into a multicolored oasis of music. the kids flock here to learn and to play. but bermuda is a long way from juilliard. but these students are just as dedicated as prodigies in new york. in 2016, paraguay is about the size of village formed from a municipal landfill. its residents used to be known as trash pickers. today, they're known for the incredible music they make. from vad >> reporter: good morning, the

change lives. this ensemble warmup session. until you take a closer look at the instruments they're playing. that's not a violin created from a fork. a flute made of discarded pipes. x electric guitar. the instruments are made entirely of trash. these young musicians from paraguay form the recycled orchestra. describe for me what it's like to play with the orchestra. >> translator: a lot of people are dying to play with us.

price. >> reporter: when we met them recently in new york city, they were more than 4,500 miles from their home. small village built around a landfill on the outskirts of paraguay's capital. they sift through the mounds looking for stuff to sell. this forme technician came up with the idea to make music from the junk yard. he gives lessons for free to any child to escape poverty. >> translator: because culture is very important. it's as important as eating. culture is as important as having a home. >> reporter: a local carpenter named don picks through the trash heap for the raw materials to make these instruments.

>> translator: the truth is that at first, people would make fun of us because we didn't have instruments and now they realize that thanks to the orchestra, us or any other child can change his or her life through music. >> reporter: their grandmother enroll the girls in the music lessons. she grew up listening to the beatles and dreamed of becoming her granddaughters now play "imagine" at the united nations in new york. >> translator: now my main objective and biggest dream as a family is that i'm able to become a professional musician and help children who want to grow in the cmmunity. >> reporter: a dream that's coming through largely thanks to a documentary about the orchestra.

it reverberated around the world. >> were you surprised by that? >> we never thought that we would get the response we had. we were already inspired by the story, but this really pushed the orchestra even >> we are helping to tell their story to the world and it's a privilege. >> reporter: they're receiving invitations to halls across the globe. even playing with the kids rock idol mega death in the united states. what's been the most surprising thing for you in watching the children over the last six years? >> translator: the most surprising thing i've seen in these children is the change in their eyes from living in hopelessness to living in hope

? >> reporter: a better life through music, and they did it in their own extraordinary way. [ applause ] >> reporter: the documentary landfill harmonic is playing in several cities around the country. it will become widely available in novemb they sound. >> they are amazing. and they were playing metallica at one point for me. they love playing rock 'n' roll. >> thank you so much. you're watching "cbs this morning."

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good morning- it's 8:54, i'm yetta gibson. breaking news overnight... after a man is hit and killed on the i-17.this is what heidi was t on the shoulder... near 16th street to change a tire.4 people were in the car... and 3 got out to help to change the tire.that's when another car came up... hitting one of them.the victim was taken to the hospital where he died.the driver who hit him did stay on the scene.now... police are trying to figure out whether impairment is to blame. a man is changes his plea to guilty... after admitting to several charges... including drug possesions and sales.

they found a drug lab... and counterfeit money inside his home.he will be learn his sentence next month. three protesters are facing charges this morning, after blocking traffic on the mill avenue bridge in tempe.among them, civil rights activist "jarrett maupin," who was dragged off the bridge, and taken to jail. maupin is now facing "obstruction" and "failure to comply" charges, both misdemeanors, along with the father, and cousin of the 19 year old, whose death at the hands of tempe police sparked was a robbery suspect, who was shot and killed by an officer who ?thought? he had a gun. arrested today "we set out to be non violent today and to talk about the unjustified killing of dalvin hollins, shot in the back." hollins was ?not? carrying a weapon, and the officer who shot him did ?not? turn his body-camera on.tempe police are still investigating his death.

when his plane... crashed into a gilbert home. he's now recovering... from his 2nd surgery. the skydivers in the plane... and the 2 homeowners who were at home... were not seriously hurt.it's still unknown what exactly led to the crash.the n-t-s-b released it's preliminary report last week... saying one of the skydivers heard a loud noise... before seeing the wing catch fire. the final report should come out some time next year

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