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>> production assistance was provided by albritton communications and "politico." reporting on the legislative and political arena. >> the president tries to dig his way out. >> that is something i deeply regret. ball on it.mble the >> the gift to his political opponents. >> this issue will be toxic for the democrats and we will tattoo into therefore had -- therefore heads in 20 14. ever have no intention of
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going to conference on the senate bill. >> what to do about iran's sanctions. were is obvious they promoting with the israelis thought was a bad deal. >> we now and with a correction. >> the friday morning headlines are interesting. obama retreats on health rules. health law shakes presidency. and the president admitted what everyone in america already knew. obamacare is a total and unmitigated disaster. among those who urged the
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president to cave, bill clinton. >> the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got. >> i said it would do everything we can to fix this problem and today i am offering an idea that will help to it. >> when you look at obamacare i do not think there is a way to fix it. >> house speaker john boehner in a lengthy news conference. the president said he will try to regain the trust of the american people. he has a very tall mountain to climb. the latest poll, 54% of the american people disapprove of his job performance. gallup, 52%. of theregain the trust american people? >> time will tell. i do not know. , incredibly partial important commodity for president. once that trust is compromised, it is tough to reclaim it. he can only do it by leveling and taking full responsibility
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and accountability for this program. >> he has a problem. em.is a punctuational probl he should not have said period. no caveats, no contacts, no excuses. when he is challenged on it when it turns out people are losing their plan who like their plan, he ends up with all these, for excavationss, these of the curlicues and explanations and caveats. he pretended that he was not aware whereas we know there was a meeting, a public meeting on c-span for three hours with republicans at the beginning of 2010 where the president is oraking about the a million 9 million who will his insurance. even now he has not really level. >> to problems he has. this matter as a
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political problem. it needs a political fix. it is or serious than that. it was underscored yesterday fix onlynnounced his to have the fix criticized by a non-political group, the actuaries who said the change he proposes for the individuals with individual plans would undermine the system itself. a substantive problem and the president needs to talk about this as a substantive problem and he rushed again as he did with the bombing of syria. he made a political decision based on the criticism he was getting from the party. that is not the way you handle a serious house a question like this. >> he had to handle it that way. to do until friday something to head off what was going to happen in the house. so it would not become a complete train wreck. and so he did what he could.
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it is not a good fix. it is the only fix that he had available to him. there will come back again with a proposal in the senate to codify something different and the insurance industry is isredibly upset because this going to screw them up. >> that anticipates my next question. can he fix this? forhis was designed political reasons. in terms of helping people out there who will lose their plan, overwhelmingly not. the insurance are unanimously against this because all their planning is were dropping these folks. the state health insurance commissioners are against this. so it could happen in a few states of -- but the idea was because of the clinton statement , there was always -- already a rebellion among the ranks, clinton legitimized what was -- obama woulas afraid of.
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he tried to stave it off with administration action. >> what is it going to take to fix it? >> you cannot fix the problem. the whole idea was to get the individuals with individual plants who are generally healthy to go and do the exchanges. if they do not go into the exchanges that will cause the premiums to go up for people who are paying health insurance and you will have the same fundamental problem in the future that you have right now. all he is doing is delaying the inevitable. what he needs to do and should have done and they have to do with other parts of the plan is talk honestly, in a straightforward manner to people about what the consequences are. this is no free lunch. lunch. no free
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there will be consequences. >> you're exactly right. is that for the last three years the insurance industry has been planning how to do this and how to move everybody into the marketplace. marketplace, folks, this is not socialism. this is a marketplace. you cannot undo that overnight. you cannot even undo that in six months. >> two points. bill clinton was doing him a favor. bill clinton was expressing the discontent and the alarm in the ranks. democrats are terrified of 2014. you can forget 2016 if this thing craters and crashes. republicans could run a laundry ticket in 2016 and win. that is the first thing. the second thing is the lack of candor. this was sold as aimless and s.ubtless -- ouchles
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us who haveose of been advantaged and we will give up something so everyone will be covered. it will be a more just and healthier society. that was never the argument. the argument is is going to be easy, it will be painless and ouchless and save some money. >> i will recommend to my colleagues on the right that we will do that. a laundry will run ticket and we will win. >> will the rollout fungus spread to the rest of the president's legislative agenda? the idea that we are taking up a 1300 page bill that no one had ever read which is what the senate did is not going to happen. >> that is ready clear. no deal on immigration. i will tell your -- pull your attention to the cover story. it is called locked in the cabinet. the worst job in barack obama's
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washington. we are completely marginalized until the you know what hits the fan. which nina mentioned last week and we have been hearing anecdotally for years is the president and his white red power at the cost of the cabinet. how much will this cost the president? >> it is a process that has accelerated in the bush and even more in the obama administration. the difference is that in the bush administration they had dick cheney who had people in almost every branch of government at levels in which they could say what was going on and they could actually control the bureaucracy. the obama administration is notorious for not being able to do public administration very well so a few words power into an administration that does that -- does not do that than they are in trouble. >> in terms of immigration. >> in terms of immigration, the reality is, you just heard john
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boehner. it is over. ignoreehner has said -- the business communities and the religious community. he has ignored the majority opinion in the united states and he has bowed to a very organized and vocal constituency within that keeps john boehner a of the irrespective nation. as far as the cabinet is concerned i do not know why anyone wants to be a cabinet officer, i really do not. it becomes a white house operation. white house it is excessively so. the quintessential moment is when the president decides to go to war in syria and having met with chuck hagel and john kerry ricker but no discussion, -- decisions reached until he takes a stroll and talks to to dan jarrett and
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pfeiffer. andinforms kerry, biden, hagel of the decision he has made with that trio of the diocese. >> why would you want a cabinet job? >> the pay is not bad. in that sense is barack obama does not have a jim baker. he does not have a leon panetta. he does not have an individual with the understanding of government, how it works, to help with what they call policy execution. he has people there who love him, honor him, and obey him. they do not understand how you make the machinery work. of whether the president could come out of this thing and do something on
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immigration, the problem turns on his credibility. next thing thehe president has to say about anything? immigration. he will have to make assertions, are those assertions going to hold up? the same way you are asking about affordable care act. what comes next with this president? that is his problem. that is the confidence question that will threaten his entire agenda. >> i think you're right. what happened with obamacare highlighted the underlying flaws of it ministration. websiteidence issue, a you would imagine you get a bunch of 12 year olds and they can make a website for a lot less than $600 million and the air against that you can keep your plan if we are experts in washington approve of it. and the worst is and this is what market nina were talking about emma the deception. they offered a free lunch on health care. it did not make sense.
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he said again and again we will ensure 30 million new americans and it will not cost the government a dime. everybody understands that is impossible. where's the money, it was hidden in the subsidies of people who are going to be kicked off their plans and have to pay inflated premiums. look i'm a that is a logical way to go about it but as mark said, if you're honest about it and you appeal to americans and say we want to help the uninsured and the helpless, we will do it in this way or you just go out and you levy a tax. you can have an honest argument. it is the dishonesty that is hurting them. >> let me correct the record. they are not inflated premiums. they cover things that should be covered. wait a minute. let me finish. they cover things that should be covered, number one. they do not cut people off because they had a previous
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condition and they do not cap your cancer treatment and all kinds of things that people thought they had in their insurance. >> both of my colleagues make compelling points but we cannot there the wisdom of republican national chairman. does anyone think that any republican who is holding hearings, issuing press releases about thete concern 30 million uninsured or any answer to it? they are totally indifferent and -- i want a column on it right here. >> did i tell you here did i dashed did i tell you that we could be looking at the collapse of liberalism? >> it was a brilliant statement. i am having trouble with
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humility these days. >> forever. >> i have been writing that he is an unusual kind of democrat and liberal. he is not clintonian. he does not abolish welfare. he announced in the first state of the union address he wants to change america for my health care, and education. obamacare is the symbol and the embodiment of the vision of this kind of new expensive entitlement state of liberalism. at a time of high debt, $17 trillion, he introduces a new entitlement. that is unusual in our politics and i think that obamacare, the embodiment and the symbol of it is something on which that ideology hinges. a big lapses in a heap of either incompetence or political rejection from democrats which setow possible, it will back is kind of liberalism for generation. to pronounce ay
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death sentence on liberalism question mark >> i think the stakes are higher than the obama administration. they have been twice given the highest honor the democratic party can given that is the presidential nomination. he has twice won. the party believes that government can be the engine of economic rye grass and can be an intervention to social justice and has a record that proves it. sabotages the already eroded confidence of the confidence in government even further, that i think it does. it puts liberalism, the democrats in terrible shape in 2014 and you could stop all the idle speculation about 2016 and even if you do win, where is the public will to act collectively in the common interest? >> if they cannot carry out what has been really since harry
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truman a central goal, if they cannot make this work in some reasonable fashion, it will soil the whole idea of government being able to do something that is not socialism but that is in ew, a central' vi value of good for the nation. >> i am not prepared to draw any conclusions about the future of liberalism. i do nothing that is even the question. the attempt to extend health 30 million to 40 million people who are without health insurance is not only a worthy undertaking, it is something that has been attempted by democrats for decades. this is going to take a while to do. i do not think you will see the country withdraw from that attempt. i think it is going to make a lot of changes over time. within the happen
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last two years of the obama administration. that undertaking works and i think over the long haul it is going to work, you will have a different version, verdict on progressive government, but it is not going to be averted that will come in and [inaudible] for 2014. >> you never can predict events. you never know what is around the corner. it could be something that changes the game here. >> he has to suck it up. he looks like such a beam guy -- beaten guy in that press conference. he has to get the blood going and move. >> understand this. the congress has a nine percent approval rating. as john mccain said when you are at nine percent you're down to staff and let relatives supporting you. -- blood relative supporting you. republicanst time in congress, 43-40 two over
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president obama. when you are running behind. --did you come here closer could you come here closer? >> i do not want to make a big deal out of this. is numberof charles' one on the "new york times" nonfiction bestseller list. officially nonfiction. >> that is over the top. >> you guys are a really great help. >> we love you. we honor you. we adore you. ask we obey you and we are your reality check. >> what to do about sanctions on iran? >> i do think that we ought to be ratcheting up the sanctions against iran. >> our hope is now that no new sanctions would be put in place for the simple reason that if
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they are it could be viewed as bad faith by the people we are negotiating with. >> ok, secretary kerry saying that britain and france and germany agree on a proposal which would halt or delay its progress toward nuclear weapons but some members of the senate want to impose tougher new sanctions trade what is your take? >> i think you will have difficulty selling this to the congress. for the same reason he is having difficulty having -- selling other parts of his agenda. the question of confidence. it is not just the fact that israelis call this a very bad deal. think it is a bad deal as well. they are saying it in their own way. the president is making the case, wants to make the case that by relaxing some sanctions that you will get some response from the iranians.
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talksary of state kerry about good-faith negotiations. can you really expect good faith negotiations from the iranians? what is the evidence they are negotiating in good faith? the burden is on the administration to prove its case and they're having the problem now because the problems they , it is plaguing everything they want to undertake. this is a crucial area with a rant and i do not think that people think they are stepping up to it. >> the saudis are upset. best for the united states? >> it is a question of whether you are imposing new and increased sanctions or leaving the ones in place while we negotiate. and how long the negotiation is. the iranians have gone back for matter of days. i am assuming to regroup and find out if they can push the envelope anymore. the alternative here is if we do not reach a deal we do come to a
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complete standoff because they will develop a bomb in a short time. problemis the domestic impact on foreign policy? >> i think secretary kerry notke his reticence or does -- his predecessor does not harbor future political ambitions. this is what he sees as his legacy. -- anyone that it is who questions the united states commitment to israel is being silly. the commitment to israel is unequivocal. and to thisas been president as well. i come back to john gardner's great line. the tragedy of our times is unloving critics and we have so
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many in our society and uncritical lovers. you have to defer to that and acquiesce and i think that is unnecessary. >> the israelis were not in geneva. they are not the one that started the gop. was're not the ones -- it the french who stopped it. it is the substance of the deal which effectively weakens the infrastructure of the sanctions without doing a thing, nothing at all about the infrastructure of the nuclear program. plantves a plutonium unmolested and plutonium has only one use, and bombs. it is a bad deal and it has to be killed. >> we realize we have been misled and it was a mistake to include him in our report. for that, we are very sorry. minutes" not "60
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finest hour. the source was a british security contractor who had given differing accounts to his superiors and the fbi about his role in that rate. how does a venerable program get caught in a trap like this one? >> this is every journalists' nightmare. sometimes you say to yourself, this is too good to be true and it is too good to be true. when you're dealing with a mercenary, that is what this guy is is is a mercenary, all your red flags should be up. i can only conclude because it took them an awful long time to retract it. but they really did not have enough sources other places to find out if it was too good to be true. in theused to be security business. they should have checked with the fbi. in the business of journalism, i think we all share this.
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this is a hazard of a one source story. ,f you go with one source you're taking a tremendous risk and they blew it with this and they should have found a way to confirm it or verify it. if they could not they should not have used it. >> the way i get around the one source story issue is i use no sources at all. i just make it up. it works beautifully that way. >> into: nonfiction. -- and you call it nonfiction. how -- i do not know how she got that wrong. it is quite astonishing. what is important in benghazi is to find out what really happened and this is not the way to go, her source. what we really need to do is to hear from the people who are on the scene, evacuated to germany, interrogated by the fbi and the
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first couple of days, from whom we have not heard. we have not seen and we do not even have the transcripts of the interrogations. >> thank you congressman. i am playing congressman cummings now. i will just say this. your point about checking about the fbi. it would have been a good idea. are thece -- they source of contradicting what this man said. and the higher level of responsibility that cbs had. they had a publisher of white -- right wing tracks. there was conflict at the outset. >> that is the last word. see you next week. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org--
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