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>> dickerson: sat down with mr. trump at his home in beverly hills on friday that's where our in ii view began. on thursday hillary clinton gave speech very tough on you said that you wanted to bring back waterboarding, go after the families of terrorist, she says you've said that you no more about isis than the generals, what policy of yours did she mischaracterize. >> it was really trump policy. she had it all wrong. first of all, she talked that i wanted to nuke all of these countries is ridiculous. i want these countries to pay for protecting them. we have 19 trillion in debt very soon going to 21 trillion in debt i want these countries to reimburse us at least for our cost. she made many statements that she knows were wrong. >> dickerson: do you feel like you know more about isis than the generals. >> they don't know much because they're not winning, i you this they're not winning for a different reason. i think obama is hurting them.
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>> dickerson: how so? >> from what i hear it's being run from the white house. it's all being run from the white house. i've spoken to certain generals i'll keep it quiet, highly respected people. we could knock them out fast. >> dickerson: in office now generals? in. >> one case in office. one case out of office. they said, both said the same thingf we had the leadership, mean can the go ahead, could knock them out fast. for some reason obama is not doing that. >> dickerson: let me ask you about libya you've been highly critical of libya. you were also for military action to oust gadhafi and take action in libya, you supported this. >> you say supportive, i supported libya? >> you supported -- did i? where do you see that. >> dickerson: in video blog from 2011 you said -- >> we should go in, we stop this guy which would be very easy and very quick, we could do it surgically. stop him from doing it and save these lives. >> big difference from what we're talking about.
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i'm only one, i made lot of money with gadhafi. he came to the country and he had to make a deal with me because he needed a place to stay, they paid me a fortune, never got to stay there it became a big joke. but the fact is, that libya was a disaster from the standpoint of way it was handled. >> dickerson: for intervention? just to clear that up? >> for something, but for what you have right now. right now isis has their oil, john. ice is selling -- among finest oil in the world. isis has taken over the libyan oil and we don't do blockades or anything, making a fortune with it. we go out, we do libya, we do it poorly as poorly as you can do it. you can't do worse. and then now if you look at what's happened, the end results isis is selling the oil and it's a total mess. >> dickerson: this is one of the things that confuse some people about your position you said you weren't for intervention but you were for intervention. >> i didn't mind surgical. i said surgical. do you a surgical shot you take them out. but i wasn't for what happened.
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look at the way -- look with benghazi all of the problems it was handled horribly. >> dickerson: you said you were never for intervention. >> i was never for strong intervention, i could have seen surgical where you take out gadhafi and his group. >> dickerson: you said hillary clinton should go to jail. if fbi which is investigating if there's no indictment, will your attorney general go -- >> so, i have spoken to, i've watched and i've read many, many lawyers on the subject. so-called neutral lawyers. not even on one side or the other. everyone of them without a doubt said that what she did is far worse than what other people did like general petraeus who got two-year jail term. general petraeus and others have been treated -- lives have been in a sense destroyed, she keeps campaigning. what she did is a criminal situation. she wasn't supposed to do that with a server and e-mails all of the other. now, i rely on the lawyers. these are good lawyers. these are professional lawyers.
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these are lawyers that know what they're talking about and are very well versed they say she's guilty as hell. >> dickerson: sounds like you're making promise for attorney general that if you were electet you were making. to have -- >> very fair. but i would have my attorney general look at it. >> dickerson: even if it investigation -- >> you have a five maybe six-year statute of limitation. >> dickerson: current investigations don't find anything you'd have your attorney general go back? >> yes, i would. everyone knows that she's guilty. now, i would say this, she's guilty. but i would let my attorney general make that determination. maybe they would disagree i would let that person make the determination. >> dickerson: what for you is she exactly guilty of? >> she's guilty of the servers, guilty of you look at confidential information, i mean all of the information that probably has gotten out all over the world. and then you know what she's also guilty of stupidity and bad judgment. >> dickerson: if that were criminal -- >> i'm not saying that part is criminal. but certainly guilty of that. in terms of this country, she is guilty of having just bad,
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bad -- how could she do it -- >> dickerson: what gets to jail, though? what what's the difference between rhetoric and law? >> what the lawyers are say can what she did in terms of national security, very strict rules and regulations, she's broken all of them. >> dickerson: classification issue? >> course it is. but she's broken so much. but she's so -- if you look at -- from the standpoint i don't have did she do it? judgment, the word judgment, this is not criminal judgment you make bad judge the. actually under those rules and regulations judgment even criminal. weren't supposed to do it. if you make a mistake they don't take that into account, why would a person and how can a person with this kind of judgment become the president of the united states? now, think of this. in a cyberworldn is a very complex, we're in world like we've never been in before. if we were in cyber-world she can't even handle her e-mails how can she be president? we're being hacked all over the place by russia, china probably.
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i mean, to the best of everyone's knowledge it seems to be. listen to this, we're in a cyberworld and she's playing around with servers and e-mails. how can she be running this country. she doesn't know what she's doing idea move on to another development. paul ryan now come out and endorsed you. you've talked to him several times. which of his ideas of the famous ryan ideas are most appealing to you? >> he's most appealing. he's a good man. he wants good things for the country. we will agree on many things, we're not going to agree on all is things. we'll agree on many things. i think we'll agree on, as an example he really focuses on poverty. he wants to take people out of poverty. so do i. we're going to come up with a plan. >> dickerson: why do you think people are poor? >> because they don't have jobs. poor in many cases because they don't have jobs. i will tell you will bring jobs back to this country like nobody has ever seen before.
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and people like carrier and ford and nabisco leaving chicago and moving to mexico. they're all moving to mexico. i will stop that very quickly. >> dickerson: do you see yourself as implementing paul ryan's agenda as president or is paul ryan implementing the donald trump? >> i think compromise, honestly. i can see a proceed mice. >> dickerson: on issues of trade, entitlements, you and -- immigration, trade, entitlements, immigration are no small issues you are on exactly the opposite end -- those aren't differences. >> i don't know. to be honest. we've spoken about it very briefly. they are big subjects. what my deal is on trade i want good deals. somebody said, what is your position on trade n i said, i want good deals. whether it's free trade, not free trade, i want good deals for our country. we don't make good deals we have a trade deficit with china with mexico, we're have trade deficit with japan. we make bad deals whether it's the military, whether it's trade, we only make bad deals.
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>> dickerson: he was asked by cnn, two things. one about deporting of the 11 million undocumented immigrants which the president by the way called a fantasy. he said if you asked him to do that he'd say, no, don't do it. also said about temporary ban on muslim integration, no, don't do it. based on these promises. how are you going to get past the establishment to keep those promises? >> you have to watch and see. i've done a lot of things nobody thought i could do. >> dickerson: you're not backing down on the promises based on -- >> we have to do something. we have a problem in this country. we have a radical islamic terrorism problem in this country. by the way, throughout the world. throughout the world. it's a problem. it's a temporary thing i'm not talking permanent. we have to find out what is going on. >> dickerson: what does the members cab heritage of the trump -- heritage. jump university case? >> i've had terrible rulings forever. i had a judge previous would have been a very quick case. this is a case i should have won
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own summary judgment. this is street case, nobody writes this, they don't like to write it, the plaintiff in the case is a woman. she was so bad that under deposition it was over. she couldn't have been -- it was a disaster. they went before the judge, they said, we don't want her to be the plaintiff. we want to put somebody else in. we said, well, that's fine. dismiss the case. you have to dismiss the case. wait a minute. she gave letters, the most incredible reviews that you've ever seen, of the university. she had most incredible. on top we have a tape where she's talking about it in the most glowing terms. you wouldn't speak about your college -- >> dickerson: but the judge from mexico -- >> we're getting terrible rulings. we go to the judge, say to the judge, you can't let her out of the case. he let her out of the case. she's the plaintiff. the case is over. the case isn't over. now, give me --
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>> dickerson: but -- for him, how is his mexican heritage have to do with him not ruling -- >> he's a member of a a club or society very strongly pro mexican. which is fine. but i say he's got bias. i want to build a wall. i'm doing very well with the latinos, mexicans, very well with them in my opinion. and we're going to see -- you're going to see, because you know what i'm providing jobs. nobody else is giving jobs. but just so you understand. this judge has treated me very unfairly. he's treated me in a hostile manner. and there's something going on. when a woman can be a plaintiff in a case then say, i don't want to be -- you know why they don't want to be a plaintiff, they didn't want her, lawyers asked that she not be a plaintiff because they boo have lost the -- >> $. dickerson: if his members an heritage is bear -- dash members an heritage, why would any mexican voter vote for you when they be -- >> they're going to vote because i'm going to bring -- >> dickerson: the same problem because you want to build a wall?
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>> by made speech last night, hundreds of signs, latinos for trump. all over the place. you know what, they are here legally. they don't want their homes taken away, they don't want their job taken away. they like what i'm doing. people can come in but they have to come in legally. >> dickerson: what if he was a muslim. you've been tough on temporary muslim immigration ban. would a ms. limb judge be allowed? >> tremendous numbers of people coming into this country that we know nothing about. we have a problem in this country, we're going to have big problems. i've been good at predicting thing, john. we'll have people coming into this country totally undocumented they don't know anything about them. they don't have paperwork. i interviewed talked to the best law enforcement people in the business, no way of knowing where they come from. and we're taking them in from the so-called migration. they are being sent all over the country. we have people that don't know --
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>> dickerson: my question is different. would a muslim judge not be able to treat you fairly because of that policy of yours? >> it's possible, yes. that would be possible, absolutely. >> dickerson: isn't there sort tradition in heck that we don't judge people by who their parents are? >> i'm talking about common sense. he's somebody is proud of his heritage, that's great that he's proud -- >> dickerson: you're saying barrier to him doing his job. >> he's in the treating me narrowly. >> dickerson: not because who his parents are? >> i have a case where thousands of people have said it was a great school. they have written reviews where they say it's a great school. not a good school, like great. gave highest marks. i have thousands of these papers. should have been summary judgment case meaning the case should have been dismissed. i had a judge who was very fair. a lawyer that came in when he came in. the lawyer on other side sort of entered the case when did he, trying to figure out what that is -- >> dickerson: throw this out because -- >> now that we didn't know before. >> dickerson: because of his
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mexican heritage? >> because of other things. dickerson: you said you want to -- >> how do you allow a case to proceed when the plaintiff asks to be dismissed from the case. the plaintiff, the one that brought the suit, said, i don't want to sue any more. then you know why they didn't want to? she can't win the case because she was a disaster. the the lawyers want her dismissed. they go before the judge he let's her out? well, he can let her out but you have to dismiss the case. >> dickerson: i guess i'm confused what his mexican parents have to do with that. >> excuse me, i want to build a wall. i don't think it's very confusing. has nothing to do with anything except common sense. we have to stop being so politically correct in this country. we need a little more common sense, john. i'm not blaming, i'm proud of my heritage, we're all proud of our heritage. but i want to build a wall. hispanics, many of them like what i'm saying they're here legally they don't want people coming taking their jobs and their house and everything else. they don't want that. >> dickerson: let me ask you
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about trump university you're going to reopen it, anything do you differently when you reopen it? >> look, i guess in life you always do things differently. the thing that we did very well we had evaluation reports done by all of the students. without that, it would be my word against their word i guess. or somebody's word against their word. we have evaluation reports where we have thousands of them. thousands of them. and these reports, very detailed reports. what did you think of the instructors, what do you think of this. one to file. mostly five. five being excellent. it's from one to five. five being the best. people circled, i'm being sued by people that have given this tremendous -- they're going to say, they were forced. who forced them? nobody forced them. they forced thousands of people to sign reports? nobody forced them to sign reports. many says remarks, many have been handwriting, beautiful statements about the school. look, it's very simple. it's called if i have chance to get my money back let me get my
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money back. >> dickerson: last question, should the u.s. go to the olympics with the threat of zika in brazil? >> the answer to, yes. but certainly as an athlete wouldn't want to do it. >> dickerson: thank you very much. >> thank you very much. dickerson: we'll be back in one minute with a look back at the life of muhammad ali
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