good morning. it is monday, july 11, 2016. welcome to cbs "this morning." thousands take to the streets to protest the shootings of two african-american men by police officers. in baton rouge you dozen were arrested in confrontations with police in riot gear. and police say a larger attack was planned before fast-tracking his assault on officers. questions about how the dallas police department ended the standoff with the gunman. did they go too far delivering a bomb by robot. but we begin with today's "eye-opener" -- your world in 90 seconds. >> this suspect had been practicing explosive detonations. we're convinced that this

suspect had other plans. >> more details emerge about the dallas shooter. >> use a bomb at the end to kill the shooter. tell us about that. >> we asked him, do you want to come out safely or do you want to stay there and we're going to take you down, and he chose the latter. dozens of protestors in baton rouge. >> more than 100 protestors arrested in st. paul, minnesota, sunday morning. >> rocks and fireworks were thrown at police. >> and turned in criminals, and i'm absolutely disgusted by the acts of some. not all. >> president obama cut short an official visit to spain sunday so he could personally honor the murdered dallas police officers. >> whenever those of us who are concerned about fairness in the criminal justice system attack police officers, you are doing a disservice to the cause. a bull gores and kill as matador on live tv.

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welcome to cbs "this morning." new and larger protests against police killings erupted in cities across the country. they followed the deadly ambush of police in dallas. hundreds of people formed a human peace sign overnight across a los angeles intersection. demonstrators in memphis blocked traffic for hours yesterday on the interstate 40 bridge. and in baton rouge, louisiana, heavily armed police arrested dozens of protestors overnight. they were protesting the killing of 37-year-old alton sterling. >> always calling it a showdown. outside the police department way controversial end to the protest. good morning. >> reporter: gayle, good morning. here at police headquarters we're hearing 50 people were arrested last night and almost all were from out of town. it started with a call the protestors were about to walk

onto the interstate and then told protestors hurled bottles at riot police. a woman in baton rouge offered peaceful protestors on her first yard and watched as they were arrested on her property. the actions, calling the police department appalling. heavily armored riot police moved in sunday evening. some pushed back by an armored vehicle and arrested. >> you are the only ones armed in this crowd. [ chanting ] >> reporter: demonstrating the death of alton sterling nearly one week ago. he was pinned to the ground and shot during an encounter with two baton rouge police officers last tuesday. [ chanting ] for more than an hour police ordered the protestors to leave. >> you must leave now. >> reporter: when they didn't,

even those invited to stand on private property were led away in handcuffs. the confrontation came to lisa batiste's doorstep. is it your belief once in your yard they no longer allowed to arrest? >> yes. i was appalled. they came on to the porch, and i said, this is my home. i don't want you here. please, get out of my home, and they were pushing. it was wrong. it was not their right to do so and i'm not okay with it. >> reporter: but the lieutenant with the baton rouge police department says those protestors broke the law. >> so the crime was trying to get on to the interstate. >> the crime was blocking the roadways. you don't break the law and then try to retreat to a safe space. there's no safe space. >> reporter: one of the best known voices in the black lives matter movement deray mckesson arrested saturday night.

he was standing in the street. he was ordered to leave but didn't. he calls his arrest unlawful. this morning we've learned alton sterling is plans his funeral-for-friday officer. the two responsible for his death on paid administrative leave this morning. and a broken vertebrae after weekend protests turned violent. at least 20 other officers injured during saturday night's unrest in st. paul, protesting the deadly shooting of philando cass still by jgeronimo yanez. they say had had nothing to do with race. castile's fee francee is calling for a lawsuit. police headquarters in dallas has become a center for healing. people are leaving notes and flowers at two cruisers parked in front of the department.

michael smith, lorne ahrens, michael krol, brent thompson and patrick zamarripa all killed in thursday's sniper attack. investigators are combing through items belonging to the g gunman, working on a cryptic message he wrote before he died. as the city recovers, manuel is tracking the investigation. manuel, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. thursday's rally began at a city park down the street from where we're standing. police thought it would remain there, but demonstrators began an impromptu march downed main street. at the crowd moved, the shooter stayed ahead of them, finding an elevated position to launch his attack. >> get back! >> reporter: police are convinced micah johnson planned and practiced thursday's deadly military-style assault. the army veteran so-called move and shoot technique puzzled

responding officers. >> we got a guy with a long rifle. we don't know where the hell he's at. >> reporter: while trying to negotiate with johnss for about two hour, police say he was laughing, singing, and asking how many officers he had killed. dallas police chief david brown confirmed johnson would only speak with a black negotiator. >> but during that talk it didn't matter whether he was black, because he was shooting at us. >> reporter: unable to reach a resolution, officers armed a robot, similar to the one seen here, with about a pound of c4 explosive to end the standoff. >> the suspect is deceased as a result of detonating the bomb. >> reporter: police say johnson wrote the letters r.b. on a wall in blood during the standoff. investigators are searching his suburban home which he shared with his mother hoping to decipher the initials. items recovered include a

journal containing impact tactics and an arsenal two years in the making including guns and bombmaking materiels. enough, police say, to cause devastating effects to dallas and the surrounding area. >> we're convinced that this suspect had other plans. >> reporter: chief brown says johnson had been practicing explosive detonations. >> we believe that the deaths in minnesota and the deaths in louisiana just sparked his delusion to fast-track his plans and saw the protest in dallas as an opportunity to begin wreaking havoc on our officers. >> reporter: investigators are searching for johnson's laptop and cell phone trying to figure out if anyone else may have had prior knowledge of this attack. johnson reportedly trained at a local self-defense school in tactics like hand-to-hand combat. so far, investigators say they have found no links between johnson and violent extremist groups. charlie? >> manuel, thanks. dallas will honor its fallen

heroes at a vigil tonight at city hall. victims and relatives will join their extended police family to mourn the lost officers. the sniper's shootings mark the deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11. omar villafranca is at baylor university medical center where some victims are still recov recovering. good morning. >> reporter: one thing emerging from the afterattack, family, wives and daughters and sons, and to police officers rallying around their own. living the american dream. he's a teacher. he was a police officer. on thursday, hide's the worst nightmare came true. >> the hospital chaplain put hit hand out to me and i knew -- >> reporter: sergeant mike smith was dead. before he went to work, without fail, mike always said good-bye to his daughters victoria and caroline. >> i would always at least give him a hug before he left.

>> reporter: but on thursday, something was different. >> and he said to me, what if this is the last time you ever kissed me or hugged me? >> reporter: did he always say that? >> no. it just felt different to me. i thought something bad was going to happen. >> reporter: 32-year-old patrick zamarripa, 40-year-old lorne ahrens and 43-year-old brent thompson also killed in the attack. dallas police officer, seeing three members of his unit shot down. >> i had people very close to me, people in my unit, friends, brothers, go down next to me. within feet of me. >> reporter: the officers died doing what they had sworn to do. to protect and serve. >> they had no regard for their own life. they stayed there with us. they surrounded my son and i.

>> reporter: ms. taylor is one of two shot during the protest. nearby officers ignored the danger to rush to her aid. >> i'm so sorry that they lost their lives. but i'm thankful. i'm -- so thankful. >> reporter: late last night, el centro college confirmed two of their officers were injured in that deadly attack. corporal brian shaw and officer john abbott both sustained injuries from the gunman. shaw had bullet fragments lodged in his stomach and abbott injured from the flying glass. despite their injury, both officers went back to the scene to try to help civilians and fellow officers. gayle? >> omar, thank you. a lot of pain. we're thinking about caroline and everybody else in dallas today. president obama will speak tomorrow at a dallas memorial service for the five officers

killed. former president bush and the vice president will also attend. ed president returning earlier than planned. he will focus on addressing the disparities in our criminal justice system. flags flying at half-staff until tomorrow night. we have the president's response to the dallas imbush. >> reporter: good morning. the president in europe over the weekend trying to alleviate tensions between nato and the european younion. now he'll try to alleviate tensions here in the u.s. president obama touched down at the white house late sunday night cutting short a foreign trip to address america's latest tragedy. >> i'd like all sides to listen to each other. >> reporter: after meeting with spain's acting prime minister, mr. obama called on black lives matter activists to reject violence, calling it counterproductive to their cause. >> i want all of them to

maintain a respectful, thoughtful tone, because as a practical matter, that's what's going to get change done. [ chanting ] but the president also said law enforcement could help alleviate tensions by acknowledging protestors' frustrations. >> there are legitimate issues that have been raised, and there's data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protestors. >> reporter: the president said the nation has come a long way since the civil rights movement, and gave much of the credit to basic american values enshrined in the constitution. >> because of that ability to protest and engage in free speech, america over time has gotten better. >> reporter: the president also once again brought up the issue of gun control. he said, if americans care about the safety of their police officers, they can't pretend that that issue is irrelevant.

>> thank you, clip. vice president joe biden talks tonight on "face the nation." accusing the black lives matter movement of doing what it wants to stop. >> when you say, black lives matter, that's inherently racist. >> well, i think -- >> black lives matter, white lives matter. asian lives matter, hispanic lives matter. that's anti-american and it's racist. >> reporter: cbs news political moderator john dickerson joins us now. >> good morning. >> what did you make of the former new york mayor. >> depends what he means by black lives matter. there's the movement and the larger movement for social justice and they get mixed a lot. the protest in dallas was called black lives matter, and the protest itself wasn't. it's not clear what he meant. seems to me he meant the black lives matter phrase is about black lives mattering more. the black lives matter matter

phrase is about black lives should matter as much as, and that's the disconnect, and that's not an uncommon disconnect that he was speaking to there. >> and that's why it's so frustrating, john. anybody in the black lives matter movement has never said that black lives matter more than yours. they're just trying to bring attention to the cause a lot of black, unarmed men are being shot by white police officers, and it's frustrating, people think dylan roof, killed nine people in south carolina. the 12 killed in colorado, wounded 70, both white people, were both arrested, and not killed. you're thinking, how are these people able to survive, and unarmed black men being killed? very difficult. >> i think newt gingrich is the one who in the last few days said there is -- that white people thinking about this idea instinctively underestimate that sense of threat that comes, and that it is -- in order to have this conversation, both sides

need to understand the other, and that if you take the gingrich approach to black lives matter and this idea that you are instinctively underestimating the threat from the police, then you can begin a conversation that understands that in certain communities, young, black men in particular, feel a sense of threat. that's what gingrich was talking to. rudy giuliani more broadly trying to push back, feeling there's been an overfocus on the police trying to paint with too broad of brush. of course, that's also what those in the african-american community feel, also too broad a brush in defining the black lives matter movement. >> is there a certainly responsibility by politicians, former politicians and those of us in the media to make sure the facts are clear? giuliani said on your show yesterday the real danger is 99 out of 100 times it's other black kids who are going to kill them. that's not true. >> yes, there is a fact issue in this entire conversation. i think what ends up happening is, you know, rudy giuliani was

trying to push back against the idea -- well, mixing, also conflating. it's possible that violence in certain neighborhoods can be bad and it can also be possible there are racial disparities in the criminal justice system. those two things can happen at the same time and he was kind of mixes them. >> according to fbi statistics, 90% of black people are killed by black people and 80% of white people are killed by white people. those are the facts. >> and that needs addressed, too. >> where does that conversation come from? >> where the conversation comes from, at least from rudy giuliani, his argument, if you care about black lives, focus on this other thing. the response is, you can focus on both. >> yes. >> and that when you talk about the police, you're talking about a specific instance in which people are given the authority to use force by the state and that that requires certain limits, and that's a separate conversation from the violence happening in african-american communities and mixing them only clouds the issue, some people argue. >> talk about politics as well.

one question. what about the president -- well -- is this going to be a political issue? is this going to sharpen, and people responsible? all of us are frustrated. not just you, everybody. >> yes. >> what's the president going to try to do this week? >> well, the president, you know, this is a -- very tough for him, because he's trying to do two things. yesterday when you saw the secretary of homeland security with commissioner bratton in new york, they were sending a clear message, we're not anti-police. so the president wants to send that but also speak to the legitimate fears he sees in the african-american community. >> good to have you here. thank you so much. >> to be continued. dallas police face criticism after killing the man with a debate over whether

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this was an incredible time to be in a theater and see this play. >> there had to be the feeling, charlie, everybody knew think was the last time we'll see this, this way. >> the man create d alexander hamilton. he may drop in now and then, but this was an torrent date that play is going to live on. got to see it if you haven't already. welcome back. coming up in this half hour, dallas police questioned for using a robot to kill the ambushed sniper suspect. critics say the technology is a step towards making police into a military force. we're going to take you to a training center where instructors say that these robots can save your life. well, if you're walking around playing pokemon, go, stop and watch this. could be waiting for you to make one wrong move, and that's not the only safety worry. that's ahead. heim to show you headlines from around the globe. "the washington post" says defense secretary ash carter is in iraq to help plan a new attack on isis.

during his unannounced visit to baghdad, he met with forces and sea think are ready to accompany iraqi troops, if needed. the "new york times" says ruth bader ginsburg blunt comments about donald trump. supreme court justices are rarely interviewed and the 83-year-old judge was very candid. said she can't imagine what the country would be under a trump presidency, believing her late husband would have said this, now it's time for us to move to new zealand. two campers arrested for allegedly starting the cold springs wildfire. the fire destroyed three homes yesterday and burned more than 600 acres in boulder county. more than 2,000 people evacuated. the campers from alabama failed to make sure they're fire was put out properly and now face felony arson charges. dallas police face questions over the way they took out the suspect in thursday's ambush.

police sent a robot armed with sdplo explosives the kill the gunman and now criticized for using the military-style hardware. >> reporter: good morning. bomb squads will tell you these robots can do pretty much anything a person can do. go up stairs, have cameras and speakers to communicate, and also have these arms. and those arms would typically be used to investigate a suspicious package, but some police departments used them to do things like deliver tear gas. but for a police department to use a robot to kill, that was unprecedented. hours after micah johnson opened fire in downtown dallas he was cornered by police and told negotiators there were bombs around the city and threatened to kill more officers. the dallas mayor says there were no other options than to send in a robot strapped with the explosive c-4.

>> we asked him, do you want to come out safely? or do you want to stay there, and we're going to take you down, and he chose the latter. >> reporter: last june dallas police use add similar bomb disposal robot to detonate pipe bombs inside a suspect's van. models like it can use es explosive, blowing up suspicious devices. operating one of several bomb squads in the washington, d.c. region. chief scott goldstein. do you feel these things save lives? >> these things clearly save lives. they can be repaired, replaced. can't replace a highly trained an experienced member of the squad. >> reporter: but critics say robots like these were designed for military combat. >> it raises a lot of concern about the increased weaponization of robots that police use. >> reporter: peter lasarro is with committee for arms control. >> once i think police departments have these weapons in their arsenal, it provides an

opportunity to use them in a lot of different kinds of scenarios. >> i thought ingenious. >> reporter: this 54-year-old police chief compares the dallas police department's use of a robot to a high-tech version of sniper fire. >> you have a robot with c-4 explosives, someone's got to detonate that. so it's the same as pulling a trigger. >> reporter: montgomery county is one of about 40 fire departments in this country that operates its own bomb squad. chief goldstein says he doesn't see these as killer robots, in part because they're operated by a person back there in that truck and they don't come weaponized. also, they can cost in the vicinity of $60,000 apiece. charlie? >> chris, thanks. brent thompson was the first dallas area rapid police officer ever killed in the line of duty. he was married less than two weeks before he died.

j.d. spillit joins us. good morning. >> thank you. >> as you know, the whole world mourns for what happened in dallas and sends condolences. help us understand how all of dallas and especially its police and d.a.r.t. police are coping. >> you know, it's -- words cannot describe what we're going through, but i must say that the outboweri outpouring of support in the communities and the cities throughout the united states and in our case as far away as canada, london, england, has been absolutely outstanding. i can't say enough about the dallas police department, how we're working together to get through this traumatic event. >> i know, chief it is a very traumatic event. a lot of people, still trying to wrap our brains around what happened. i understand your department was very close. brent thompson had just married a fellow officer two weeks ago. what are you saying to your troops to get them through? how are you -- what is your message to them and to the rest of us?

>> you know, the message is, keep your head up. remember brent. remember how he would want us to carry on, in his absence. a smile, a hug, always a kind word. let's go do it. last night at a candlelight vigil, his partner got up to speak and he considered brent to be a big brother to him, because he didn't have a brother. and as he was preparing to make his speech, it was tough for him to get through it, others were going to assist, he said, i can do it, because that's what he would want me to do. >> the president is headed to dallas. what steps do you think need to happen to help heal the community? >> you know, the president has, he form add task force several months ago, and they came up. it was the president's task force for 21st century policing. in there are numerous recommendations. one of those things is use of force, training, what we have to change our mind-set about use of

force. the other is about training. but then it's about the community. how we relate to the community. the different ethnicities in the communities, and, also, how they relate to us. and, you know, that's a process that we're all going through. we're not there yet. but i can tell you that we are seriously working on that here in the state of texas, and especially here in dallas, and the north texas region. >> have you any understanding of the anger that drive as man like this to do this? >> you know, i really can't, and i was thinking about that this morning as i came in. he was a veteran. i'm a veteran. some of those officers that was killed were veterans. brent was a veteran. three of the dallas officers i know were veterans. that is just incomprehensible and i just cannot wrap my brains around veterans doing that when

we have gone all over the world to put our lives on the line protecting other countries, ensuring their freedoms, and we come home and another veteran kills other veterans who are yet protecting and serving as police offic officers. >> it's also raised very ufr comfortable confess about race in is country, what we need to do and how far apart we still are. what do you say about that, chief, today? >> you're exactly right. this isn't just a dallas issue. >> right. >> this is a societal issue, and it's something that we have got to figure out how to address. i don't have the answers, but i know mayor rawlings here in the city of dallas, as well as my present ceo all the way to our governor, that's something that we don't take lightly, and this is highly unusual for dallas. this is the no the dallas that we know. >> all right. >> chief, thank you so much for

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this morning, missouri police warn a new hugely popular video game is helping criminals lure unsuspecting victims. pokemon "go," wandering through areas to work the characters. it could lead you into a trap. good morning. sounds ominous. >> reporter: it is.

pokemon "go" released last wednesday and quickly soared to the top of charts, designed to get game players off couches and explore interesting players in their homes. robbers targeted them using one of the game's built-in features. pokemon "go" advertised as a carefree way to use your smartphone as part of a modern day scavenger hunt. you capture, train and battle pokemon characters that appear in the real world. it's not unusual to find groups of players gathered all on the lookout for pikachu and his friends. >> trying to catch him for a while now. >> reporter: police say criminals are also taking advantage of the game and its players by using a feature of the game called a beacon to attract multiple people to one location. in a st. louis suburb, police say these three teens along with another juvenile were arrested after luring players and stole a phone and wallet early sunday

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humidity wednesday, thursday looks lick it will likely produce couple of showers and thunderstorms, meisha? >> more than an awesome monday, thank you so much. looking outside, guys, still looking pretty darn busy 95 cottman around the s curve. still not traveling at posted speeds, just below, the boulevard, same story here, you can take a look, moving in the southbound direction, on the boulevard, as you head toward the schuylkill. looking a lot like there is as you jump on the schuylkill at city avenue, you're no longer traveling at posted speeds there, accident overturned dump truck. route 55 north off ramp through 322, jim. >> thanks, meisha, a next update at 8:25, coming up on cbs this morning, facebook and the future of live streaming. i'm jim donovan, make it a great day. creamy swirls of pure indulgence.

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it is monday, july 11, 2016. welcome back to cbs "this morning." more real news ahead, including dallas mourning its. >> moderator:erred officers while other cities protest violence by police. we asked congressman elijah cummings how to bring both sides together. first, here's today's "eye-opener" app8:00. started with a call protestors hurled bottles at police. trying to figure out if anyone else had prior knowledge of this attack. >> what is emerging, family, wives and daughters remembers loved ones. police officers rallying among their own.

>> outpouring throughout the community and the united states has been absolutely outstanding. >> the president was in europe to try to alleviate tensions. now he'll try to alleviate tensions here in the u.s. >> the secretary of homeland security with commissioner sending a message, we're not anti-police. the president wants to send that. on the other hand, he wants to also speak to the legitimate fears he sees in the african-american community. >> some police departments used them to deliver tear gas. for a police department to use a robot to kill, that was unprecedented. >> take a look at the count in the stands today. -- got it. [ laughter ] i got it, i got it! >> i told you we should have brought the glove! >> pictures worth 1,000 words. [ laughter ] i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. dallas investigators are combing through evidence this morning. they're learning more about the

sniper who killed five police officers. notes and flowers fill a memorial site outside dallas police headquarters. prayer vigils took place over the weekend in the city. the gunman was 25-year-old micah johnson. police believe he had plans for a larger attack. they suspect he acted because of last week's deadly police shootings of black men in minnesota and louisiana. >> and the dallas police chief says that johnson taunted officers during a roughly two-hour negotiation. officers armed a robot with c-4 explosives to stop the standoff. he wrote the letters r.b. on a wall before johnson died. police officers are searching johnson's home trying to figure out what those initials mean. they found a journal containing tacticing and a journal containing arsenal and bombmaking materiels. and the first officer ever

lost by the rapid transit police. all served in the dallas police department. wounded in the ambush, he saw three members of his unit killed. >> being there and watching people that, you know, we see every day. people that we get to know their families. we get to know them personally, at a level that you can't even imagine. we ride around in the car eight, sometimes more hours, stinky, sweaty -- you know, everything. and then we go through things that most people don't see in they are entire life. you get really close to people. and these were my brothers, and i -- i hate to say that there was -- i -- frustrated, because

i couldn't do more. >> saying officers zamarripa bought a homeless man food during a protest. that was just before zamarripa was gunned down. he said it represents the character of his colleagues who were killed. >> protest over police killings of black men grew and spread over the country. demonstrators blocked traffic from los angeles to memphis. police in batten rouon rouge, louisiana, protesting the death of alton terrill nearly a week ago. and sunday's protest over the deadly shooting of philando cass still were peatile castile, in contrast to what happened over the weekend. president obama cut his foreign trip short after the killings. he said all sides need to listen to each other. >> everybody involved in the black lives matters movement or

other civil rights organizations or who are protesting, just as i want all of them to -- maintain a respectful, thoughtful tone. i would hope that police organizations are also respectful of the frustrations that people in these communities feel. >> tomorrow the president will deliver remarks at the dallas memorial service for the slain officers. maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings is with us now from baltimore. his city faced riots last year after a young black man, his name, freddie gray, died of injuries received while in police custody. congressman, thank you for joining us. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i heard you say yesterday we don't have time to turn against each other. we have to turn towards each other. we just heard the president say, we all need to listen to each

other. can the country listen and hear at this particular time, at this moment? >> i don't think we have a choice. i think we are at a very critical moment in this country's history, and with what is going on with people -- everybody's upset and concerned, but i think we need to try to do what newt gingrich said he's been trying to do. that is, he said as a white man, he tries to put himself in -- said it's very difficult in the place of african-americans, and african-american men like me, i'm 65 years old, i know what it feels like to, every time you get no your car, to worry about being arrested by the police. even now as a congressman. but at the same time, on the other hand, people seem to think that when one asks for accountability, transparency and good policing, does that mean that they are not very sympathetic and very concerned

and upset when police officers die and are ambushed the way these officers were. or any armed consequence against them. it's a mutual respect. one of the things as i was leaving to come to this interview this morning, one of the guys in my neighborhood, i live in the inner city of baltimore. a guy said, mr. cummings, tell me something when that boy dylan roof down there in south carolina killed those people at the church, they went in and got him a burger, at burger king, but yet, still, the man in baton rouge, and minnesota, died. so we have to look at both sides of this, and try to put ourselves in the place of the other, and i think that -- people just assume that you're going to go to one corner or go to another and then you start talking past each other. this is a critical moment. i'm glad that president, former

president bush, will be joining the president tomorrow, and in dallas, to address these issues. i think it's so important that we talk to each other, and that we continue -- there's absolutely nothing wrong with peaceful demonstrations, but i am not going to sit here and beat up on the black lives matter young people, because all they want is what our constitution has guaranteed them. and they simply want respect of the police. >> congressman -- >> and, by the way, there are a lot of great police, and i -- so i want to make that clear. okay? >> yes. a very important point. >> how do we make it different this time? how do we make sure it goes beyond dialogue? >> well -- well, i think it's got to be a multifaceted effort. number one, we have really got to look at and accept the fact that there are the young people

in the african-american community have a lot of legitimate grievances, because of basically what they see. this thing called the cell phone is -- and being able to take pictures. they now see more of what is happening. so we've got to deal with things like, making sure, addressing recruitment. i talk to police officers every day and they tell you that there are people on the force they know shouldn't be on the force. so we've got to deal with recruitment. we've got to deal with making sure that there is training with regard to de-escalation. a lot of times we've seen situations where folks, police come along, and actually make things worse. i saw that as a trial lawyer. and then we've got to make sure that people give the same kind of respect to the police. and by the way, going back to what newt gingrich said, there are a lot of people who have biases and don't even know they have biases on our forces. so we have to begin to, again -- i think the more each side says,

you know what? we're going to sit down. we're going to talk. we're going to be honest with each other, and try to put ourselves in your place. i mean, that's going to be the key to this. the other thing we're going to have to do is, i think it's one songwriter has a song that says, it's the soul that needs the surgery. we have to really come face to face, both police and citizens, and say, we need each other, and for a policeman to do his job, he needs the cooperation of the public, but you know what? the public needs the police to protect them and serve. so we need each other. that's why i say we have no choice. we've got to make this work. >> yes. the public also needs the police too. a very important point. the president said america is not as divided as some suggested. briefly, do you agree with him on that? >> yeah. i don't think that america is divided as a lot of people think. i mean, the idea that -- when i was growing up, i never

imagined, never even imagined, that i would see a man of color in the white house. i still have to pinch myself. and i see and i look at the young children, and they don't say, a lot of them don't say black, white, they say that brown person that yellow person. in other words, they don't see black and white. i think a lot of our younger generation is getting past the whole race issue. i think some of us older folk, we need to catch up. >> yes. we could look -- congressman, you're right. we could learn from the children. you are right about that. thank you for joining us this morning, all righty. >> as a congressman, and vice president joe biden will join the president in tomorrow's service in dallas. before that, scott pelley talks to the vice president tonight on the "cbs evening news." and live video, playing a crucial role in life and death scenes from minnesota to dallas. ahead, serious new questions for social me

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facebook live, now one of the go-to places for anyone to stream newsmaking video. in minnesota, the girlfriend of a man shot to death by police used her facebook live feature to show the aftermath. the video has more than 5.5 million views this morning. and michael bautista used his smartphone to stream the dallas ambush. his facebook has about the same number of hits. nicholas thompson, editor of "the new yorker" magazine's

website, new yorker.com. good morning. >> good morning, norah. >> at first facebook removed that video of the shooting of philando castile, wa went slew their thinking? >> we don't actually know. facebook live as a medium for news happened incredibly quickly. facebook live launched three months ago and initially people putting rubber bands around watermelons and a chewbacca mask. funny, frivolous stuff. suddenly it became real stuff. facebook wasn't anticipating this. they tried to apply this to the situation and are a little confused as company now. >> might what with this? >> it will become a big news event. now when people think about facebook live they're going to live streaming and live streaming is much more visible than taped video. even if you see it when not live, there's something about the fact it was broadcast that makes you experience it in a more intense way. i mean, you watched that

minnesota shooting and it is extraordinary, the emotions you see as you see that. add in the fact as you watch it, you're seeing commentary of your friends and other people thinking about it, makes the whole experience much more intense and will mp pla phi every news event as we go forward. >> what are the dangers of that? people had a visceral reaction, especially those who knew this man seen literally dying right before our eyes. how can you censor something like this? >> it makes us more impassioned and does that in part because of the experience of watching with your friends. you can imagine situations where people become more impassioned isn't necessarily a good thing, seeing things without context or without the filters you've normally had. in the future, that can -- >> a lot of people say thank goodness she was able to do that. people argue, this is going on for years now the cameras are allowing us to see it.

>> that is absolutely true. you can have situations like that. undoubtedly a positive, and imagine situations in the future it's not clear it's quite as positive. >> you think a catalyst for a lot more of this? >> tons more of this, i think. and situations where we have rational effects, one person streaming it, doesn't really give you the whole truth? right? getting a live stream without context at that moment is a difficult thing. moments where people get enflamed and inpassioned and other moments, where it's the only way to get the story in realtime and that's an incredible thing. >> how do you contain that? >> no idea. but we're going there. >> we are there. thank you, nick. a group of prisoners escape but didn't run for freedom. how they turned from suspects to heroes, coming up flex on cbs "this morning."

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culture. we explain why, this is cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >> good morning, i'm brooke thomas, demonstrators here in philadelphia, are calling for racial justice, and protesting near city hall right now. chopper three, live, over the demonstration organized by the philadelphia chapter of showing up for racial justice. right now, the group is blocking traffic at 15th and market streets, group says they're conduct ago memorial service for lack lives lost to police violence, now a look at the eyewitness forecast with meteorologist, katie fehlinger. >> oh, looking fantastic, perfect weather, to be outside, for anything you've got going on, because we don't have the winds, we don't have much humidity, we have nothing but full sunshine, and it is nice and pleasantly warm later today. so really is a fantastic looking day, we'll tack you on out to the today forecast, a sense of what you can expect throughout the day here, specking temperatures that

reach 86 degrees, beautiful, seasonably warm, bright, sunny, doesn't get better than there is dropping down to 67 tonight. under the clear sky, it will be nice, comfortable, if you doesn't with a to for go the air conditioner, i think you can get without it here. eighty-seven tomorrow. once again in full sunshine first few days of the week looking good, how much, we start to see an up tick not just on the thermometer but also the humidity factor, in the next couple of days, beyond that point, thursday looks to bring in couple of showers or thunderstorm, and staying awfully warm in the 90s on friday, as well. meisha? >> beautiful day to get outside, thanks, so much, katie. looking outside, actually looking okay. however, do have couple every accidents there is on the schuylkill westbound at conshohocken, see the left lane block, you also have people out of their vehicles, so it is causing single file lane. it will slow you down just little bit because the volume levels are still thereto hold, that also, eastbound 422 before trooper the right shoulder you have dent there, as well as another accident overturned dump truck route 55 north to off ramp to 322 ramp closed we have debris spill on route 322 eastbound, the ramp should be opening between ten

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welcome back to cbs "this morning." coming up for you in this half hour, bryan stevenson of the equal justice initiative is here in studio 57 talking to michelle miller. he helps innocent people get out of prison. how the nation can move forward after last week's shooting and the impact of the black lives matter movement. >> a remarkable man. plus, wounds that have not healed. michelle miller takes us to a university crossroads, after a controversial deal to save itself. come to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. britain's daily maris says thousands mourned a matador buried in central spain. 29-year-old victor gorio, his

wife in the crowd. the first killed since 1980. >> hard to watch. joe perry recovering today after collapsing during a show. videos show him stumbling around back stage last night here in new york city while playing with the band hollywood vampires. perry reportedly lost consciousness. the 65-year-old was take ton a hospital. perry was sick before the show but is in stable condition right now. and calling the soccer final portugal's greatest night. it didn't start well after portugal's start player renaldo was knocked out of the game with an injured knee. he went from despair to jubilation after his teammates scored the win in overtime. portugal stunned france 1-0 winning its first major championship. the country is reeling from police killings of two black men

and the murder of five police officers in dallas. bryan stevenson is founder and executive director of a nonprofit group dedicated to overturning wrongful convictions. his team represents clients whose cases may be marked by racial bias or prosecutors' misconduct. it helped more than 115 wrongly condemned death row prisoners. stevenson won awards for fighting poverty and fighting discrimination in the criminal justice system, and we are pleased to have him. welcome. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the presumption of guilt. >> yes. we have in this country a history of racial inequality that we really haven't adequately acknowledged. it began during the time of slavery when the great evil for me was not involuntary solitude or forced slavery but a narrative of racial differences. ideology of white supremacy we created and burdened black people with these presumptions, with these prejudices, and we never really talked about it.

the 13th amendment doesn't deal with that, and it was fueled by this era of lynching for decades we tolerated victimization of black and brown people who were terrorized and then we codified a racial hierarchy through segregation and today black and brown people in america are burdened with a presumption of dangerousness and guilt. >> and you believe it has a direct link to slavery? >> well, i do. >> and that inability to somehow come to grips? >> i think our failure -- >> the not understanding of the ramifications of slavery? >> i think our failure to take seriously this problem is rooted in our unwillingness to acknowledge all of the damage that was done by slavery, and the damage that was done by lynching and the damage that was done by segregation. look, i am 56 years old. i've got a law degree from harvard, honorary doctorates, argued in the supreme court and have been pulled out of my car

and police officers have threatened to blow my brains out because of this presumption. it doesn't matter how smart you are, places in this country you are presumed dangerous and this culture is created by a history we don't acknowledge. >> you're saying, bryan, it's so much bigger than we're seeing. people say, that was 400 years ago. why do you keep bringing it um? it's much bigger? >> it is much bigger, yes. she's shootings are symptoms of a larger skidisease. there are few places you can deal honestly with the history of slavery or terrorism. we actually haven't dealt with this and indifferent to victimization of black and brown people, and that problem is a larger problem. it's not just the people shot and killed by the police. it's the people who are beat by the police. it's the people who are menaced and targeted by the police. the people humiliated by the police. there are hundreds of thousands of black men and women and

children in this country that have stories to tell about how dangerous it is when they are encountering police, and it's unfair, to burden black and brown people in this country with the obligates to navigate police encounters' safety. the onus is on you as a black and brown person to say and do things that avoid tragedy, and that's not right. >> when the president says we're not divided as some people think we are, is he wrong? >> no. there are differences and have a real problem and we've got to change -- listened, what happened to the police officers in dallas is unquestionably horrific, and there will be no debate about the wrongfulness of that act. i grieve for those officers and their families, but there should also not be a debate about the wrongfulness of what happened in baton rouge and in minnesota and in too many other places, and there will be a debate. >> is that conversation happening now? when you see tens of thousands of people, people in protests,

in all of these different cities. is there a movement afoot, though, to address that? >> well, there is movement, there is reaction. we have to change the culture of policing. >> how do you do that? >> begin talking differently what a police officer is. too many police officers in this country think of themselves at warriors, not at guardians. you've got to change that culture. if 90% of police training in many of the departments is all about shooting and fighting at not impolicive -- >> do you think that's the issue? a matter of training? >> training is the beginning. our police officers ought to be the most sophisticated people in society when it comes to not being directed by implicit bias, because they're armed, they have responsibilities. they have to be the people we trust the most. not to presume others dangerous and guilty, but that's not what's happening. we have to do training and change that culture. create accountability. >> how do you change somebody's bias? >> you actually get them to

acknowledge when they see someone of a particular race, they're prime to think things that are unfair. and, you know, we've had to change our bias in the climate control area. we used to think it was appropriate to spray things and use fossil fuels but we've learned things and changed our behavior behaviors. i think we're equally at risk by the smog created by our history of racial inequality we've all been breathing in made a sea of black and brown people threatening and menacing when we're just trying to live our lives like everybody else. there are ways if we begin to acknowledge that, we have to create more shame about the police misconduct we have tolerated. create more shame about segregation, more shame about lynches and terrorism, and when we feel that shame, we feel the act to do something remedial. that's not happening in police culture as much as it needs to. >> it's important also not to paint the police with one brush either. the blacks are being painted by

one brush, i think it's important not to paint the police departments with one brush, too. >> i don't think there's no question about, we have thousands of black police officers in the country. there are thousands of police officers who very much of committed to public safety, and that commitment has to be honored by changing the culture in a way that we can trust one another. we've done so little in this country to hold police officers accountable. good police officers want to be held accountable. but when you have the court saying it's okay to lie and cheat, tolerate deception and don't respond as a community, black and white, brown and others, to these horrific shootings of young men of color, we're going to foster this continuing divide. >> thank you, bryan, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for being here. the louisiana and minnesota police shootings have people talking about the future of race relations, but one university is also trying to answer for its past. up next, the school that survived by selling off slaves

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more than 150 years after america banned slavery with battle with its legacy. the conversation over race extends to every level of society and includes some of the nation's most prominent institutions. to louisiana in search of the troubling history of georgetown university. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. 178 years ago georgetown was

free to everyone who was able to attend. it was also massively in debt, and to pay that debt, the university sold 272 slaves. the very people that helped build the school itself. today, its leaders, students and alumni are grappling with that history. you have not attempted to open it? >> no. not in a number of years. >> reporter: >> we record marriages. >> reporter: so every important date in a family. >> right. >> reporter: once generations ago, to the whitewashing of history. >> that's what i'm thinking, but i don't know. >> reporter: a history for many african-americans can only be traced back a few generations. the branches relied on tales

told by elders, like this one. of great-aunts traded as the currency of nation-building. >> it's told very young she waved good-bye to her mother on a shore and watched her mother get on a ship or boat, and so she never saw her again. so how did that happen? when did that happen? where did she go? >> reporter: these missing pieces. >> definitely missing pieces. >> reporter: until a phone call from a stranger started to fill in the holes of her family tree. >> so what did you say? >> i listed the names. i said, i'm an alumnus of georgetown. >> reporter: were you suspect at first? >> i was not, because i didn't give him information. he gave me information. he came up with names that i knew from my grandmother's side of the family. >> and like that she said, let's start the whole conversation over again. >> reporter: richard told

branche her great-great-grandparents were part of a group of 272 slaves who in 1838 were sold by georgetown university to three plantations in southern louisiana. near where branche and her brother still live. >> was this the piece of the puzzle you just didn't have? >> well, certainly, my entire identity is wrapped up in the folks who came before me, the things that made us family, the traditions that were handed down. >> this church in particular ministered to their needs. >> reporter: he isn't a historian, he run as software company. after researching his alma mater he happened upon a georgetown slave sale which settled a debt and saved a university. >> sold in 1838 money, which is about $3.3 million today, and that money was literally used to help georgetown avoid bankruptcy.

>> well, hello! >> reporter: he hired baton rouge genealogists to help track down the descendants of those original 272 slaves. she pored through meticulous records kept by louisiana clergymen, priests who baptized, marrieded and even buried slaves who stayed true to the faith. >> your 1847. >> yeah. >> baptized, son of henny. >> right. amazing. >> reporter: lineages in black and white. he estimates there are between 10,000 and 15,000 descendants list living today. >> there's only one thing that separates these benefactors from most of georgetown's other benefactors. >> and what is that? >> it's race. i can see that if somebody had written a check in 1838 that wiped out the university of debts, there's no doubt in my mind that buildings would be named after that person. that person would be celebrated,

and his descendants would have no problem whatsoever being admitted to georgetown, even down into this day. >> we're saying what is our responsibility today, in this moment? >> reporter: john dejoya is georgetown university's president. >> slavery, part of why it was so awful, was that for 200 years people could not pass on any form of wealth to the next generation. >> right. >> and here is an institution on the backs of 272 people, certainly the debt was paid. could the university offer, you know, legacy status? >> sure. >> it's a tough question. >> it is. these are complicated, for a number of reasons. >> why? >> i believe the fundamental question that we're wrestling with now is, how can we contribute in new ways to ensuring ever-more access and afford ability to higher

education in america for the hundreds of thousands who are not able to access it? >> reporter: he convened a group of students, alumni and professors, which will make several recommendations on how the university should best recognize its role in slavery. he's even plet with some of the descendants themselves, asking the question they've faced for generations. how to pay back that human investment. >> reporter: do you feel as though georgetown owes these families a debt? >> well, certainly. how to collect on a debt from however long ago wouldn't be my purpose, but if georgetown wants to do something, it maybe the benefit for my nieces and nephews and great-nieces and nephews would be wonderful. it would be fantastic. >> reporter: the university is hoping that by the fall they

will have concrete ideas about how to memorialize the 272 original slaves. some early ideas include memorials, campus dialogues and scholarships, but most importantly, this story is part of a larger conversation about equality, and they really hope it will continue. >> uh-huh. i read in the paper that historians say this is the first time the president of an elite university has met with the descendants of slaves in this particular case t. is the first time, and jack and john dejoya is adamant about making sure these conversations are, one, heard, and that have a process beyond this. >> two georgetown graduates sitting right here. a great story. thank you. we'll be right back. yo

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>> i'm jim donovan, protesters are blocking streets in center city philadelphia right now, including streets around city hall. chopper three, live over 15th and market, where demonstrators gathered within the hour. the philadelphia chapter of the group showing up for racial justice is calling for a police accountability, and an ends to police violence. similar actions are taking place across the country today. now, let's turn katie for a look at the forecast. >> hey there, jim. once again, looking ahead to absolutely beautiful day, minus the breeze that we experienced yesterday. today, we ends one low humidity, once more, and full sunshine, plus, pleasant warmth. it really does check off all of the boxes, on the list of what you would want for a pretty perfect day. let's look at storm scan three devoid of any storms right now, beautiful day, with high pressure in control.

now, eventually, we start to see the humidity ramp up. it it will be a little slow creep. so it only just creeps up on us, as a result, by the time we hit wednesday, especially thursday, you will really begin to notice that humidity, but for now, it is beautiful. mid and upper 80s, today, tomorrow, full sunshine, flirting with 90 by wednesday, this will be the day that we start to transition, bit more toward that humid pattern, and, we start to see couple of showers, thunderstorms nudging our way, as will for the ends of the week, meisha, a over to you. >> beautiful forecast, katie, thank you so much. and looking outside right now, you guys, on this monday morning, you can see, we do have accident, looks like just clearing here, 422 eastbound before trooper. right shoulder, you can see it there, maybe causing little bit of gaper delay, overall looking okay. ben franklin bridge, very, very slow moving from jersey into center city. take a look at this, all lanes, almost completely down, to around five, 10 miles per hour, crawl. then we have an accident, overturned dump truck still out there, here route 55 north, off ramp to 322, ramp closed, there is debris spill

on 322, that ramp should be opening between ten a.m. and noon today. so, it will be lingering out there for little while now, jim, back over to you. >> lots going on, thanks, meisha a that's "eyewitness news" for now. join us for "eyewitness news" at noon, i'm jim donovan, make it a great day.

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