>> i love hillary. >> i learned that -- i really -- i'm actually going to be honest with you right now. i learned nothing. >> i taught the tonys were fantastic. bryan cranston was a class act. it was nice to see sing on broadway. >> i love him. fields of goal every gold, baby. >> what time is it? >> time for chuck. chuck, i'm really sorry. i had a lot of coke. >> good-bye. >> you need to go do like 18,000 pushups. culture clash. integration is the single biggest battle in the fight between the tea party and the establishment, and it's creating southern discomfort for republicans like lindsey gram and eric cantor ahead of tomorrow's primary. nine days after bowe bergdahl's release from the taliban, new details are emerging about his time in captivity as bergdahl opens up to military officials about his ordeal. he is not yet called his

parents. hillary clinton's next chapter. there's no read to read in between the lines anymore on her future, and if you are not ready for the book bonanza, you should probably start your summer vacation early. good morning from washington. it's monday, june 9th, 2014. this is the daily rundown. all that, plus tdr 50 heads to virginia this week ahead. why the old dominion is a new battleground. let's get to my first read of the morning right here on your 2014 election headquarters. the real fight for the soul of the republican party is happening in the south. less than 24 hours from now voters in two more southern states, south carolina and virginia, go to the polls. south carolina senator lindsey gram and eric cantor haven't exactly been shy about criticizing the president. you wouldn't mistake either one of them for an arlen specter or susan collins, and yet their conservative credentials are being challenged? yes, they have to contend with a washington establishment label. ultimately, the sin for both of them, could you argue, is really

on one issue. it's on immigration. on tuesday republicans will compete to see if they can draw lindsay gram into a runoff and send him packing. that field includes state senator lee bright. businesswoman and the first woman to graduate from the citadel, nancy maize. attorney bill connor and benjamin dunn and minister. fwram fended off attacks from the republicans in the only debate of the primary. guess what the main topic was? immigration. >> in 2007 they became known as graham-nesty. >> we tried amnesty. >> if you did not support amnesty, if you did not support much of obama's agenda, we wouldn't be here tonight. we would much rather be out waving signs. >> the reason i'm going into the

primary overwhelmingly, i hope, is because i'm a ronald reagan republican. i like rand paul, but i'm not a rand paul republican. i'm a ronald reagan republican that believes it's not good to get to the left of obama on foreign policy. immigration is a problem that's not going to get fixed by yelling about it. i'm a good conservative. check my record out. i'm also a problem soller. this country needs to solve problems. in virginia senate candidate ed gillespie beat out three rivals over the weekend, and he won the right to face democratic senator mark warner in the fall. it's the down ballot challenge to aircraft cantor that he is getting from a tea party backed challenger named dave brack that appears to be more interesting for tuesday's purposes at least.

cantor has spent more than $1 million in this race against a college professor who has tapped into discontent in the suburban richmond district. the central policy issue has become cantor's -- cantor is the number one cheerleader in congress for am nest where i. is that really a believable statement? on defense cantor has sent out mailers boasting that he killed ledges laying to give illegal aliens a free ride. he has run ads trying to tie brat to senator tim kane saying he worked on his -- as fact check.orlg, he serve odd a large board of unpaid technical experts to help with providing economic forecast. not really an advisor. cantor defended his immigration views in the ad to our nbc

affiliate wwbt. >> i've always been for the kids. they didn't break any laws. never changed my position on that. >> my opponent had the opportunity to speak out, to step off that board if he disagreed with what governor kane did in raising millions of dollars in taxes. he chose not to. >> here's one important point that has gotten lost in all the coverage of this year's gop establishment. it's really been taking place in one region, and that's the south. south carolina and virginia are just the latest example. primary season kicked off in march in texas where the senate's number two republican john cornyn ended up not even breaking 60%, and he ran against nobody. he spent millions. his main challenger didn't even campaign. the anything but john cornyn movement won 40% of the vote. dewhurst was forced into a run jofr, and then he was defeated by conservative state senator

dan patrick. as republican voters make it clear they were eager to embrace the shift to the right, particularly on immigration. check out congressman who became the first congressional -- senate republican leader mitch mcconnell beat back a challenge from -- not without spending more than $11 million and brandishing a rifle. even though he knew he had a fierce general election challenge ahead. mcconnell said he felt he needed spend his primary accusing conservatives. in mississippi six -- thad cochran -- mcconnell, by the way, headlines a fundraiser tomorrow. even in the races that the gop establishment has won in the south, the tea party has worked to push the party even further to the right. it was certainly on display at the texas republican convention over the weekend. more than 7,000 delegates gathered. does anyone think this is john conin's party in texas? rick perry's? not at all. it is currently in the hands of ted cruz. the texas gop supported gay

conversion therapy, which is opposed by the american medical association and the american psychiatric association. new jersey governor chris christie signed into law banning this for minors. he was booed in texas this weekend, by the way. republicans dropped moderate language approved in 2012 as a texas solution on immigration that had called for a national guest program. instead it adopts a hard line immigration stance that includes in state tuition for illegal immigrants. remember the issue he took out of rick perry. state senator dan patrick running for lieutenant governor led the charge on that one. >> we're not against legal immigration. we are against illegal immigration, and so are millions of hispanic-americans. people coming here illegally keep their wages down. they see the impact, in their crowded schools and overcrowded emergency rooms. they are with us on securing the

border, and we as a party must be respectful. we must reach out. talk about issues. we must not step back from being bold on the issue that impacts this country and this state, and that's people pouring across our border every week. >> former republican senator kay bailey hutchison of texas joins me now. senator hutchison, good morning to you. happy monday. >> i got to ask you this, this state republican platform, in your state of texas there, besides the two that i pointed out in immigration and this gay repairtive harp, it calls for repeeling the voting rights act, supports an open carry of firearms, supports the repeal of the minimum wage, backs a u.s. from the muggies united nations, prohibits the sale of the morning after pill, demands the repeal of the affordable care act known as obama care. is this the republican party you

were a leader of back in the 1990s? >> well, for sure the platform is very conservative, and i think from the straw poll that you answered earlier, ted cruz won it handily. i think the party is very, very conservative. i will say that now we have more of the wing of the party in governance, and i think we need to give them a chance to govern and to see that we stay on the right path. i think texas is a model for business in america. we don't have a state income tax. we have a right to work law. i think that we will keep that, and i'm hoping, of course, that we elect people who can govern that we mom nature people who can win. >> you know, as you know, texas republicans, he would argue, going back to the rise of texas

republicans really beginning with your election in 1993, then george w. bush in 1994, and moving on, one of the staples of your success was doing well with hispanic voters. it was never a 75-25 proposition. many i think a couple of times you probably got a majority of hispanics. >> i did. >> rick perry, over 40%. george w. bush, majorities when he would run for governor. are you concerned that this push very quickly to the right, particularly on immigration, gives an opening to democrats? >>. >> i'm very concerned about some of the rhetoric. you are absolutely right. i got a majority. george w. did. rick came very close many competitive races with hispan s hispanics. we want to reach out to the wonderful hispanic population in our state. we're not for amnesty.

we are for making sure that we do the right thing in dealing with the toughest of issues. i am worried about some of the rhetoric i'm hearing from kadz. they will come back and bite us just like it did in california. >> what advice would you have for -- in many ways i talked to some republicans who are quietly nervous, dan patrick, if he is elect lieutenant governor and controls the agenda for the state of texas and in many ways the way the system works in texas, the texas lieutenant gov has that set of power. what advice do you have for him to try to make sure he doesn't alienate you? >> well, i think that he is very smart, and he needs to make sure that he can govern, work with

the republican majority in the state senate to move us ahead on the issues that people are concerned about here. education, higher education, making sure that we properly prioritize our funding. i have to say our lieutenant governor wants businesses to move here not for subsidies and corporate welfare, but with good governance and policies. i think the governor is on the right track. i think he and dan patrick will be able to work together, and that is our hope. we have a great house peek speaker, joe strauss, who is absolutely right on the education issues. that should be our priority. lower taxes always. we are a low tax state, but we need to make sure that education is our priority. higher and secondary, and i think joe strauss, greg abbott

have shown that leadership, and i think dan patrick can work with them to do that. that's my hope. >> you said you want to give them a chance to govern. so far you feel you're going to support this entire republican ticket for now? >> yes. >> but if they govern in a way that's too conservative, you with leave open the possibility that you would speak out on this? >> you know, my state is the most important thing in the country. i hope we can nominate and elect republicans who will govern in a responsible way and so far we have. we've had good leadership, and i hope we stay on that track. texas is ahead of every state in the economy and jobs, in prosperity. now we've got to make sure we have the infrastructure to hold that, and that's what i'll be looking for. >> all right, senator kay bailey hutchison, former senator from texas. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you, chuck. >> all right. up ahead, a changing of the

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in just a few hours in the east room the president will announce a new set of executive actions that are intended to ease the burden of college loan debt. potentially for millions of students. here's what they would do.

expand on a 2010 law that currently caps loan repayments of 10% of monthly income. extending the relief to what the white house estimates is five million people with older loans. given the long rule-making process, the new program would not take affect until december of 2015. now, the white house estimates 71% of fwrad wat with a bachelors degree carries debt. $29,400. the president also plans to announce support for a more sweeping student loan measure sponsored by massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. joined now by the president's nestic policy advisor cecilia munoz. good to see you. >> good morning. >> good morning. hopefully it's still dry there before the spring thunderstorms roll in. let me ask you, if this is something that was necessary to do, why did it take four years? why not -- why wait until now? >> well, congress passed a law a you foo years ago that applies this tropical depression to students that are in school now. what the president is doing is making sure that we're making it available, as you said, to students with older loans, about

five million people are going to benefit from this. in addition, we're collaborating with people like h & r block and turbo tax to make sure that students are a wear that this is available to them. people who are paying off student loan debt are aware that this is available to them. this is part of a package of thing that the president has been engaged in for multiple years now, and to make sure we are both driving down the cost of college and helping students manage their debt. we can see these kinds of provisions that do not end up costing funds in the end. this is both good for the government programs, and especially good for students in helping them manage their debt. as you said, the average student graduates with about $29,000 of

debt. that has a big impact not just on them and on their futures, but on the rest of us economically. we now owe more in student loan debt than in credit card debt in this country. in excess of $1 trillion. it's time to get that under control. >> the reason for this, though, is not because of high interest rates. the reason for this is the ridiculous cost and the escalation in tuition costs at universities both public and private that have taken place over the last two decades. obviously there's not a lot that can be done with an executive action on that. i know the president has had these trying to come up with a college affordability scale and different things that you have tried to do. this is the real problem here, is it not? >> well, the president has been concerned about this, and, in fact, a year ago you made an announcement about the college rating system, that's shaking up the higher education sector. he is basically insisting that everybody across higher education start looking at what kind of value they're providing for the money and that we start providing better data to students and to parents as they make these decisions. we're also putting forward what

we're calling gainful employment rule on nonprofit colleges to make sure that we're holding them accountable because the rates of default from students that go to those schools, the amount of debt that they owe, and the level of preparation that they get from some of those programs are not in line. we're operating on multiple fronts to make sure that we manage the question of a rising college costs and helping students manage their debt. >> well, is there a way to get to a point where you can't get a student loan for some universities because, say, they are charging too much? you're not getting your best bang for the buck so the federal government says, you know what, we're not going to give you a stupt loan to go there. we'll give you, though, a loan to go and say in this category of schools. are we ever headed a process like that? >> that's exactly the point of the rating system that the president announced and that we're putting forward. the goal is to establish a rating system, which is a challenging thing to do, but then to ultimately tie federal aid to what the rating system shows so that more dollars go to the places that are providing more value, that are graduating

students on time, that students are able to repay their loans because they're getting good jobs. the proposal is not exactly that. the federal government puts in $150 billion in student aid. the goal is that that money should be -- we should be holding colleges and universities accountable for how we spend that money and we should dedicate those resources to the places that are really delivering results. >> how soon will we have actual -- something that is in law that does do that? i know that's the ultimate goal. is this something that's at the next two years. is this something that's going to take five years. what's the hold-up? >> tying student aid to a rating system will take an act of congress so, what the administration is focused on is making sure we build a rating system which is credible, which uses data wisely, that can begin to change behavior in the higher education sector so that ultimately congress will take steps to tie student aid to other rating systems. >> got the big preview of the big announcement later today. thanks for coming up. >> thank you. >> time now for our first data bank item.

the number is two. it's the number of presidential inaugurations that took place in critical regions overseas this weekend. first it was ukraine. petro poroshenko was sworn in. in his inauguration address, the bell yon air confectionaire said he will never accept russia's amnexation of crimea. he asked them to drop their weapons. he won by a landslide victory with 97% of the vote. those are mubarak-like numbers, folks. after he ousted the nation's first freely elected president, mohammed morrissey. got to ask yourself, is egypt essentially back to the -- >> administration officials will be on the hill today and tomorrow. ahead we have new details of the five years bergdahl spent in captivity.

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the latest on the release p.o.w. bowe bergdahl. still holed up in a u.s. hospital in germany, unable to come home and unwilling to talk to his own parents. meanwhile, the firestorm in capitol hill promises to grow larger. administration officials head to the house of representatives tonight to brief members on the controversial prisoner swap. u.s. officials tell nbc that bergdahl is allowed talk to his parents, but so far has chosen not to. local police say his parents are now receiving death threats in

idaho. bowe has also been cut off from the public and political controversy that's surrounded his release. he has want been looking at any media. u.s. officials confirm that bowe bergdahl is in good enough physical condition to allow him to return to the united states, but that he is "not ready psychologically or emotionally." over the weekend the "new york times" reported that bergdahl says the taliban kept him locked in a cage for weeks in total darkness as punishment for trying to escape. the developments add a new wrirnkle to questions about why the administration decided move so quickly to release five taliban prisoners in exchange for the p.o. wmp. the senate armed services committee will hold a closed door briefing with d.o.d. officials tomorrow. in his first public comments about the exchange secretary of state john kerry defended the process that freed bergdahl. >> what i know today is what the president of the united states knows. that it would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an american

behind no matter what, to leave an american behind in the hands of people who would torture him, cut off his head, do any number of things, and we would consciously choose to do that? that's the other side of this equation. i don't think anybody would think that is the appropriate thing to do. >> the administration is now facing a wave of bipartisan criticism. senate intelligence chair dianne feinstein called the deal a mixed bag at best and questioned the assurances that the former taliban prisoners would not pose an imminent danger to u.s. troops. >> haired john kerry this morning say, you know, don't worry about them in doha. you can't help but worry about them in doha. it's hard to be comfortable when you really haven't been briefed on the intrick a instrument int

>> the question is at what cost? whether it would put the lives of other american men and women who are serving in had danger and in my view clearly this would. >> i'm not telling you they don't have some ability at some point to go back and get involved. they also have an opportunity to get killed doing that. i don't think anybody should doubt the capacity of the united states of america to protect americans. nobody. >> joining me now sheef pentagon correspondent jim mick mick. i want to go to the last comment because i've had officials behind the scenes tell me this a lot. what kerry just said. the ability to get killed essentially what i have been told is, hey, don't think there aren't drones ready to go if these guys get back into the fight. is that what you are hearing behind the scenes? >> well, we're talking about a year from now if, in fact, they stay in doha forever. they're not going to launch drone strikes against these five

taliban inside doha. the intel and military officials we're talking to don't have any doubt that these five, while they're in doha, will somehow get back into the fight. it's inevitable. >>. >> let's talk about bergdahl and his condition. we're hearing more with more details from the "new york times" report, finding out -- i don't want to call it an integration of bergdahl, but some of the initial interviews of bergdahl starting to leak out. what more can you tell us about what he is telling u.s. officials about his time in captivity? >> well, defense and military officials are treading very lightly around bowe bergdahl right now. they don't want to do anything that could derail his psychological treatment and recovery, but they have no argument with reports that bergdahl apparently told his -- the doctors there in germany that he was tortured after he had attempted to escape a couple of times. now, one official said the only

detail they have here is that he was deprived of sleep over a long period of time, held in a confined place, like a cage or a small cell, but details of his incarceration are not being shared. i have to remind everybody that as he is talking to these doctors and explaining his captivity, it's not clear and he is not being asked any questions about why he left the base, what was his thinking, and what was his intention at the time he left that base, and he has, in fact, been assigned a military lawyer so that if bergdahl gets into a sensitive area in which he could incriminate himself, the doctors say hold on, bring in the lawyer, and then they work through that process so as to protect his rights. >> and he is not chosen to call his parents yet nor return a letter. i believe he has received a letter from his sister as well,

correct? >> that's right. nobody is going to speculate about why that may be. they're pretty much putting it on the fact that he is still going through this -- recovering from whatever psychological trauma he suffered in five years captivity. >> all right. swrim at the pentagon for us. been quite a busy ten days. thank you, mick. >> virginia is for the tdr 50. rolling into the old dominion. dramatic resignation is about to flip control of the state senate today. just in time for us to take our tdr 50. timing is everything. we'll be back in three minutes. , he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? and that's how you'll increase market share. any questions? can i get an "a", steve? yes! three a's! amazing sales! he brings his a-game!

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democratic bastion. lately it seems like neither. from reconstruction through 1948 sla have a voted for the democrats in the presidential election every year but once. in 1952 it flipped. it went to the republican presidential candidate every year since 1964. what happened in 1952? well, nafs the culmination of years, the growing distance between the democratic presidential candidates and petition members in virginia. a group of that headed by then harry byrd, former governor, who spent nearly 50 years in virginia politics. the growing rift between himself and president truman, bird gave his approval to the republican dwight eisenhower, giving democrats the okay to support him. ike won the state and the president. then it was 1970 lynn holt became the first republican governor. william scott became have virginia's first republican senator in that time.

it seemed like local politics zigged while national politics zagged. in the 1980s they dominated state politics. even as president reagan spent two terms in the white house and carried the state. then virginia elected the first african-american governor in the country. an extraordinary development for a southern state, no less. state control flip-flopped through the 1990s and into the 2000s. republican control giving way to a string of democratic control. large part would change demographic. specifically in northern virginia 1970 just about one in ten virginia residents lived in the region. the majority were in more rural communities. by 2010 one-third lived in northern virginia. over half the state's residents have moved to urban areas. what has been the side effect? the state has lost some of its southern flavor. i like to say that virginia

seceded with -- we know why west virginia was established. the shift had a dramatic impact on state politics. over the last 30 years the region doubled in size. we're talking about counties of fairfax, prince william, and it supports the city of alexandria. it wasn't just the growth. it was the political shift to the democrats. in 2012 northern virginia went to president obama by an average of 25 points. used to be a 50-50 region. never the less, there are still indications that virginia remained a swing sfait state. while its governor is a democrat, the statehouse is controlled by republicans. the virginia state senate was a 50-50 split, although that's going to change today. democratic state senator phillip puckett is expected to announce his resignation giving the gop a temporary 20-19 majority. we get more into that resignation here in a minute with founder and director of the university of virginia center for politics. larry, always good to see you.

we're going to talk virginia i got to start with you. >> good morning. thank you thanks. >> is virginia culturally a southern state anymore? >> no. it's a middle atlantic state. there are parts of virginia that are still very southern, like southwest virginia, like south side virginia, but northern virginia, the richmond area, hampton roads and virginia beach area, these are more culturally middle atlantic. they're more like the rest of the country. >> let me ask you this. if we were to move the mason dixon line, where do you put putt it now? put it south of richmond? >> well, it would be south of richmond. there would be skwigley lines all over virginia. they're still southern in character and nature. it's the urban areas that dominate. really the two-thirds to three-quarters of virginia could be classified as urban, suburban, ex-urban. they're the counties, they're the cities that run virginia. >> all right. i wanted to go more into this, but the resignation over the weekend or announced resignation

seems very transactional in nature. there's a lot of fall-out here. this is a democratic state senator who is resigning. apparently some republicans have a good new job for him lined up. explain that. is this a good transactional move here? what's going on? >> well, chuck, it sure looks like it. you know, the republicans, of course, are thrilled because this changes the calculus for governor terry mcauliffe and the big fight about the budget in medicaid that's going on now, and it tilts the playing field in their favor. the democrats are furious. i've learned some new curse words in the last 24 hours even at my age. 67% of the vote for romney here in 2012, democrats are going to be hard pressed ho told it. i don't think they can. obviously this is a major change

at least in the current battle. wronk it changes everything about the direction which virginia is moving politically. >> there's no doubt, but this really does -- i guess i ask you this. was he blind sided, or is this brewing for a while? >> oh, he was blindsided. >> look, what this is really about, it's happened before. the democratic state senator who took a state job in order to raise his pension. we have a strange law that helps you get a pension based on the average of your last three-xwreer salary. he took that job and the senator who replaced him was -- it sent the senate to the republicans. same thing is going to happen this time. >> medicare expansion in virginia's debt?

>> you know, mcauliffe could still hold on. it's going to be tough. he could veto the budget if a budget is, indeed, passed by this new republican general assembly. it was a coup for the republicans to do it. it's raised a lot of wez about thousand business operates in virginia. >> well, that it's been that way for a long time. both parties have a machine-like atmosphere it seems on the state level. is that a fair way to describe it? >> yes. they do. they can't control all their members, as we learned today and yesterday. >> yeah. that's for sure. larry, always great to check in with you. thank you, sir. >> thanks, chuck. >> doing a lot of virginia all weeklong. tomorrow is primary day. wait until you look at the difference between a campaign in virginia 7 congressional district during a campaign in virginia 2008. it tells you everything about

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as its budget sky rockets over a roughly 30-year period, and while the agency of the species doesn't technically exist, of the spending and waste outlined is based on actual government abuse and highlights how simple ideas and good intentions can sometimes be misused over time becoming more of a problem than a solution. what can folks here in washington learn from the book? we're joined now by the novel's author of the weed agency, the national review's jim kerry. a novel. >> yes. >> explain why you wanted to do this as a novel. you could have done this book and basically taken the tom coburn -- >> yes. >> you could have had some fun with it and done that. why do a novel? >> there are a lot of people who would never read a book about submarine warfare who read the hunt for red october. there are a lot of ways to get people -- brad thor wrote a book about the federal reserve. i like most other people, you read like page three of the book on the federal eserve, and you

start slumping over into your chair. if you put an action novel format around it, people will read it. you end up digesting -- >> accidentally teach people. you are accidentally teemping them about the federal bureaucracy. >> take a topic that most people find very bothering. if you are not reading about the federal budget, i can't blame you. it's not thrilling reading. if you are not interested in -- people think it's about marijuana. it's about -- >> it's a big disappointment. i thought the same thing, and i thought, oh, wow, is he jumping on the marijuana bandwagon. >> confused owners are -- they'll buy it and forget to return the book when it's not about what they expected. >> you know what's interesting is the thesis of your book about sort of a government bureaucracy out of control. seems to have a new endorser of late, and it's the current president of the united states. whether it's been the issues behind the v.a., talks about bureaucracy that they can't get their arms around, the issues of technology challenges that had he with health care, talks about the procurement process and the

inability to get his arms around that. there was the gao. you name it. it does seem as -- it does seem as if as some more watched by this federal government and they would try to cut back on some things, they real realize that you can't control this bureaucracy sometimes. >> yes, the democrats being the p party of government are starting to realize that the way that the federal bureaucracy operates is getting rid of the stuff they want to enact it. >> if they want to do some things and create an activist government, get rid of the wa e waste. >> and it is one of the things that i suspect if you take a -- i'm a guy who is always going to complain about the government b few you give democrats sodium pentathol, and you say, we sent them to this website, a it does not work and they will admit it. and so the debacle is the information not going up the chain. fine, fine, and the website

looking good, and the va, the backlog is getting reduced, but then we find out it is not. and the traditional response is, well, we have a big mess and we will spend more money and throw more money at it, and the bureaucracy absorbs it to assimilate people to the way that it is supposed to be spending the money the way it is supposed to, but it is not the matter of spend, but accountability. >> and i don't believe one agency could withstand ten days of media scrutiny like the v.a., and yet there are parts of the government that do work well sh, and do you think that you will feed into the cynicism that all government does not work when frankly a lot of it does work or there would be riots in the street. >> and the simple measuring stick and one of the kascharact talking about it, if the consequences of failure are dire enough, then people are on the ball. i feel good about the fbi doing a good job of arresting crimi l

criminals and the cdc does not knock over and spill the smallpox sample and kill iing a of us or something, and if the consequences are that people will die -- >> those agencies are run well? >> well, there is no culture of complacency, because you realize that if you screw up, people will keel over and die, and maybe in the case of the v.a., you do have fatal consequences for this stuff, but generally, if the stakes are high enough and that human being with the urge to say i will take care of tomorrow, it will erode. >> and jim, wash out, christopher buckley. >> well, i don't mind that comparison. >> and the "weed agency" and again, stoners, it is not what you think it is. >> buy it anyway. >> and make a rolling paper. >> thank you. trivia time before terry mcauliff's 2013 win, richard nixon with was president in 1973 the last time that virginia's off year governor race was won by the same party controlling the white house. congratulations to today's winner robert george.

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it is takeaway time and i went 54 minutes without menti mentioning the book, but the book extravaganza has begun. hillary clinton beginning the book tour for the book titled "hard choices" this week, but here is the lack of news in the book is the news. meaning that "hard choices" was expected to be an important tell about the 2016 ambitions. but she would not air the dirty laundry if see was going the run, but if it was positive, maybe looking at a run, but the book is far from a tell-all and more of a defense of clinton written by someone who is still involved in politics and not an ex-politician ready to dish and

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