i flew four times on the space shuttle. it is just an incredible experience. i'm very grateful toward having that opportunity. >> captain mark kelly, a big day for you, your family, the space program, and science. thank you so much for joining us. that is our show for today. alex wagner will be back monday. i'm ari melber. you can find me on "the cycle." "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. tonight, discrimination and religious freedom. >> if i thought it was about discrimination, i wouldn't have done it. >> we will defend the united states of america. plus harry reid calls it quits. >> don't be too elated. i'm going to be here for 22

months. and a twin experiment that's ouch out of this world. >> the space environment is pretty severe. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start with discrimination in the state of indiana. on thursday republican governor mike pence signed a so-called religious freedom bill into law. the bill was signed in a private ceremony in pence's office. no members of the public or press were allowed to attend. here it is. senate bill 101 prohibits state or local governments from sub substantially burdening a person's ability to exercise their right to religion. sounds like a lot of

gobbledygook. when you break it down, it is a whole bunch of discrimination. opponents say it provides the opportunity to discriminate against gay and lesbian americans. the law could also provide the opportunity to discriminate against any faith. on thursday pence came out and defended the law. >> this bill is not about discrimkrimcrimination discrimination. if i thought it was about discrimination, i would have vetoed it. it doesn't apply to private disputes among individuals unless government is involved. i think there's a lot of misunderstanding about this bill. >> there's a lot of explaining that has to be done. pence was asked if there was any specific instance that would justify the law. >> i'm not aware of cases and controversies. i mean, as i travel around the state, one thing i know for sure.

hoosier hospitality is the greatest in the nation. people have strong hearts strong values but this isn't about any present controversy. >> the governor said he wants indiana to have the same protections as other states. pence is rumored to be interested in running for president in 2016. a lot of people are thinking this law is going to boost his street cred with the conservatives across america just ahead of the primaries. people are outraged. montel williams george takei, miley cyrus, they all oppose the law and are speaking out. cyrus called pence an a-hole. there could be some serious economic consequences for the state of indiana as well. sales force ceo cancelled all company events in the state of indiana. is that a misunderstanding?

the christian group disciples of christ has threatened to boycott anyone over the law. organizers of gencon have threatened to move their convention out of state. they pumped $50 million into the indianapolis, indiana economy. how about the ncaa? they are concerned. expressing concern over the law. next week's final four will take place at the lucas oil stadium in indianapolis and of course ncaa president released a statement saying this. we are especially concerned about how this legislation could effect our student athletes and employees. moving forward, we intend to closely examine the implications of this bill and how it might effect future events as well as our work force. we're not done, folks. here comes the national football league. they are responding to the law. after saying that they had no

comment, a league spokesman has said we're in the process of reading the law. now these groups are the groups the governor must reach out to. salesforce, gen-con, disciples of christ and the nfl. he was a right-wing talk show host. i don't know if he did any sports radio or not, but somebody ought to tell him in the final four and the nfl are big. why does he have so many groups to explain things to if the law

is so correct? one thing i think we have found out with this law the bible belt starts in indiana and goes west. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question -- has mike pence legalized discrimination in indiana? text "a" for yes. text "b" for no. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i want to welcome my guests. great to have you gentlemen with us tonight. professor, you first. what are the dangers of this law as you understand it? does this open the door for discrimination? for instance, if i owned a business and decided not to hire black people or jewish people

how do you interpret this law and how dangerous it is? >> i think anybody who follows the proliferation of these laws around the country is going to understand that the impetus for these laws is precisely that gay, lesbian, and transgender are starting to participate equally in the economy and the work force. there are people who want to have special privilege to deny them service from a business. it's a very serious and important question. in a whole bunch of ways this law has been crafted specifically to get rid of some of the limitations that existed in the laws of other states that courts have relied upon to say discrimination is not allowed

with these laws. i don't know what part of the law governor pence points to when he says this law doesn't license discrimination. >> it prohibits meaning it doesn't want states or local governments from substantially burdening a person's ability to exercise their religion. that means if someone thinks gay americans are living a lifestyle, as they would say it and they don't approve of it and i'm a business owner, i would be able to get rid of these folks in the employment arena. isn't that discrimination everywhere else but indiana?

>> exactly. whether or not it is discrimination, is it up for debate? it certainly seems that way. what is not up for discussion is it is not christian. there is nothing in the gospels where jesus ever condemned eds gay people. you can't deny service to gay people as well. if you're a christian, it's not your job to judge gay people. it's your job to love gay people. a lot of businesses are going to be staying away from indiana after this. i kind of want to go to indiana just to sell rainbow flags to all the non-bigoted businesses so they know where to shop. sfl >> how influential do you think they can be in this state and in this situation? >> huge. that's why this guy is going to back down. the ncaa is dead serious.

back in 2001 they told south carolina until they took the confederate flag from the top of the state capital, they would never get any ncaa event. the nfl 20-something years ago kept a super bowl out of arizona because it refused to pass the martin luther king jr. holiday. my parents live in indianapolis. i can tell you something here. the only thing that people as a whole in indiana love more than right-wing conservative politics is basketball and getting stuff. i'm talking about stuff from the ncaa. one of the biggest critics of this is right there in indianapolis, the mayor of indianapolis.

greg ballards, who is a republican he is screaming like crazy. mike pence is going to back down. >> the culture of the nfl is they have the best attorneys around. when they say they're studying the law, i take that as they already know the law, but they're running up the flag pole so everybody knows that they're not going to approve of this down the road so they're not going to get too heavy-handed because they don't want that bad pr being heavy-handed, but they know what the law is when they say they're studying it. >> they're serious. we've seen a precedent for that. just kind of a quick putting this into perspective, indiana back in the 1920s got a reputation for being the most northern southern state in the union. to date the largest clan rally in the world took place near indianapolis. it took until the 1970s to erase

that image. the guy who built the stadium built the mall and airport. people are not going to allow this one governor to take indiana back into the 18th century. >> here's a clip. >> people don't know this has been federal law since 1993. people don't know that this is already the law in 30 states. people think this somehow limits individuals' freedoms limits the freedom of the government to intrude upon people's deeply held religious beliefs. that's what teddy kennedy supported it. that's why president clinton signed it. that's why barack obama voted

for it in the senate state in illinois. >> your reaction to that? >> well for starters governor pence just has his facts wrong. this is a very different statute. if he really believes what he says, that he doesn't want to license discrimination that he would never sign this law if he thought it was going to result in discrimination, there's a very simple solution to this whole problem and here it is. indiana does not currently have statewide discrimination protections for gay lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people. if governor pence will take the leadership role in seeking to enact statewide discrimination protections for lgbt people that solves the problem. if he would take the lead in doing that and make it a priority of his caucus in the state legislature, i think the

business community would respond very positively. >> considering the definition and the description we got from terrence moore on exactly what indiana is all about, how is pence going to retreat from this? >> he's not. he signed it behind close doors. i think it was a calculated risk that he took that is going to blow up in his face and i think he's already realizing that from the reaction of the business community. i'm waiting for the media to jump on this to say this is unchristian. if you want a government based on christian values, you take care of the poor, you are kind to those in jail you let private charities have a bake sale to bail out wall street. this has nothing to do with christianity and i'm waiting for people to wake up and realize christianity does not cover for

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re-election. it should come as no surprise. he's 75 years old. the nevada senator announced his decision today in the youtube video. he's endorsing senator chuck schumer. she's endorsing schumer from new york to take his leadership spot. schumer's is currently third in command behind senator dick durbin of illinois. reid says his decision has nothing to do with his eye injury or the recent election back in november which makes him minority leader today. he has served in the congress since 1982. >> i don't want to answer that question. that's a clown question bro. >> pigs are a little slippery to begin. senator republicans are addicted to coke, two very wealthy brothers who intend to buy their own congress. they cover this little animal with tons of grease. it is a greasy little pig.

brad pitt said okay stand for pictures. how are they going to tell us apart? when i ran in 2004 it was like i had taken a bath and felt so clean. then comes 2010. back into the sewer. goes on about its business. republicans are all in with their billionaire friends. there's no painted pig. it reminds me of chasing one of these little pigs. >> joining me tonight john raulston. good to have you with us. i was in nevada back in 2010 when it was sharon angle and harry reid. if he were to do it again, would

he be re-elected? >> he probably stands worse than he did in 2010. his numbers aren't good. you have half or more of the people here who are dissatisfied with him. he's a very pollarizing figure. he would have been a slight favorite for re-election. i don't think he's not running because he's afraid of losing. the republicans, if they had run brian sandoval against harry reid they would have been the favorites. republicans are second-tier candidates. i said it was 55-45 he would have gotten re-elected. >> are we going to see sharon angle again? >> we can only pray that sharon angle appears on a ballot out here. >> what's this going to do to

democrats in the state? this is something they haven't worried about in a long time. harry reid has done a lot of good things for the state of nevada so where does this leave democrats in the state? >> there is a caveat. former attorney general has long said that she wants to run for the u.s. senate. harry reid called her this morning. he has already anointed her as his successor. she has not made a public announcement yet, but i have talked to her about it. she is now working in the higher education system here, but she's only had that job for a few months. i think she'll be ready to start a campaign. she'd be a formidable candidate. she's a la teetina. she made a lot of headlines fighting sex trafficking here. i think she's the favorite to

win the race if she runs based on the reid machine helping her run here. if she doesn't run, there's a huge dropoff for democrats. their bench was decimated in 2014 here. the republicans took over all the statewide offices. there are a couple of congressman that could run and might be good kthdcandidates in that race, but there are a lot of republicans who will want to run. >> the rnc released a statement today. they think this is because things aren't going well. it's not surprise that harry reid is going to step aside. when you look at harry reid now he's going to retire. barbara boxer barbara mckulsky.

what do you think harry reid's departure -- his leadership has been vital in recent years. he oversaw the passage of health care. we know that had to go reconciliation. that was a bold move on his part. he followed through legislatively for president obama. he got the stimulus package through when we were really hurting as an economy. there have been some things that harry reid has had his hands on. how does this bode for the democrats nationally as you see it? >> it's a really good question ed because your description of harry reid is what he loved about being a u.s. senator. he loved to legislate. he loved to be in the back room putting together deals that and attacking republicans and the

coke brothers whenever he got the chance. we don't know how chuck schumer is going to do in that position. we know chuck schumer loves tv cameras. we don't know if he's going to be as good as harry reid at legislating. you have a lot of these senators now who are leaving essentially because the senate has become a toxic place. it's dysfunctional. we have heard all this. i think harry reid loved that part of it. he didn't care about the criticism. you really need somebody like that with that kind of thick skin. i'm not sure chuck schumer or anybody else is that person. >> all right. always good to have you with us here on "the ed show." appreciate your time tonight. coming up, ted cruz and his hawkish allies. plus twin astronauts are taking someplace exploration to new heights. keep it right here. we're right back.

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welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. nasa's one-year mission has begun. this is a one-year mission on the international space station. it's scott kelly's fourth space mission and the longest for any american astronaut. back on earth, scott's twin brother mark is also playing an important role in the one-year mission. the information collected from this research could have a major impact on future space travel. >> to boldly go with no man has gone before. >> captain scott kelly is preparing to spend one year in space. >> kelly has launched into space three times before. >> i have a desire to fly in space again. >> it is twice the length of a

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welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. john bolton was dead wrong when it came to invadeing iraq. the only person who takes bolton's opinion seriously is the guys over at fox news. the 2016 election will have to focus on foreign policy no doubt. the middle east is in a freefall. the united states has taken the lead with air strikes on isis targets throughout iraq

conducting 17 air strikes on thursday with our allies around. this weekend is critical for the iranian nuke deal talks. ted cruz doesn't have a whole lot of foreign policy resume to tackle these issues. it's red meat for the gop hawks. bolton suggests throwing diplomacy out the window. he sounded like a broken record defending the controversial column on fox earlier. >> there are those who say you're painting a picture of immediate war. >> the arab states would welcome a successful destruction of iran's nuclear program. i think you would see popular

opposition to the regime if only the united states and others would help it. >> joining me tonight is the president of plow shares fund and a former rnc chair and a professor of politics. great to have all of you with us tonight. a lot of people in this country think that john bolton is off his rocker and dangerous. is it cruz's inexperience that takes him behind bolton or do you think this is the guy he really is? >> john bolton is calling fire in a crowded theater in the middle east. we should be taking a careful look at what john bolton has been advocating. he has gotten it wrong almost every time when it comes to war.

he was wrong about iran the first time around. under his watch, iraq now has 20,000 centrifuges. he has made a real problem for ted cruz. i can't wait for the microphone in front of ted cruz. do you want to start a big war in the middle east bigger than the last two we're trying to finish up? >> does john bolton have any credibility in the republican party. >> i think he does. there's nothing to disprove that otherwise. i think you look at the success that he has had in sort of galvanizing discussions. whether you agree or disagree with the discussion, that's another matter. but he is effective at raising

issues and generating, at least within the party and i think we'll see more broadly during this campaign, discussion about these issues. i think the premise that you have set out here ed is a little bit off. he did not call for bombing iran. that headline is done by editors. that's not necessarily his choice. >> his name is on it michael. his name is on it. >> your premise is my view it's off. you read the article. he did not call for bombing iran. he referenced the two times in the past where israel has done similar strikes in 1981 and 2007 against iraq and syria and what about those events led to war? nothing. >> so would you agree, michael -- >> what about this -- >> michael, would you agree that there really isn't anybody in the republican party like john bolton when it comes to

international intervention? >> i don't know what that means. what do you mean like john bolton? define that for me. >> he's as radical as they get. every solution is that we have to be there boots on the ground. we have to take military action. he's not your next-door neighborhood diplomat so to speak. >> that's a good line. a, he's not as radical as they can get. i think he's a seasoned and well established diplomat. you have a policy disagreement with him and that's fine. to the question i think it will be important for ted cruz to answer that question ultimately but not necessarily now. >> caroline he was asked the other day in an interview, ted cruz, what have you accomplished? what is his foreign policy

resume? does he need john bolton to take a position? >> i think he's taking this position for political reasons to stand against the president. i think it looks way too much like what happened in 2001 with a very flimsy premise suggesting we go into a country with military intervention. i see this as being very politically opportunistic on his part because it is a terrible policy. >> can i say something? >> yeah sure. go ahead. >> everyone is reading this as if this is coming out of the mouth of ted cruz. ted cruz has not espoused a policy on iran. he has not espoused a policy on dealing with the middle east. that is to come. john bolton is one of many advisers that ted cruz has in his campaign. he wrote a piece. it was his opinion. ted's opinion may be different. i'm not going to draw the link that because john bolton says

it, ted cruz is going to act on it or believe it. i think it is false to do that. that's why i think your premise is false. >> how much of an influence do you think bolton is going to have on cruz? >> i think bolton represents a wing of the party that is in a ascendance right now. you saw a similar article a couple of weeks ago. you heard lindsey graham talking about war with iran just last week. i have great respect for you, steele. i disagree. he double downed on this. he started to articulate how our allies in the region would applaud a strike. >> he's right about that. saudi arabia wouldn't applaud that? come on. >> saudi arabia wants us to take

strong action against iran but this is a region that's now in chaos and you want to now take on one of the most powerful military forces in the middle east. this would definitely unleash a regional war with unintended consequences, including, for example, driving up the price of oil. this would be a catastrophe and the u.s. and israel would suffer most of all. >> i think there is some validity in terms of what you're saying. the region will have a play there. it is not just the u.s. or john bolton. >> all right. i wish we could talk more but we have some things we have to get to. great to have you with us tonight. we have to turn to breaking news. the court has ruled to overturn both convictions against amanda

knox and her italian ex-boyfriend. meredith kercher was found dead in 2007. knox and her then boyfriend were convicted of murder in 2009. they were acquitted by an appeals court in 2011. knox has maintained her innocence all along. she is now back in seattle and has vowed to never return to italy willingly. let's go to rome for more on this. what is the latest? >> reporter: ed this is a huge turnout for this story. their sentences, amanda knox and her former italian boyfriend, their sentences have been annulled by the supreme court here in rome. amanda knox was still sentenced to three years for slander. that was for falsely implying someone else was there and

committed the crime earlier on. she will have time served from that, but the big point is they are now free. there will be no more appeals for this. the supreme court has said they did not commit these crimes. this is actually a very rare occurrence we were told. it seemed the most likely outcome would be they would send it back to appeal or confirm the verdicts, but they have decided not to send it back to the appeal. they have annulled the sentences and they are now free. no more appeals. ed? >> that is the story from italy. the supreme court ruling today that amanda knox and her ex ex-italian boyfriend, they are free to go. that is the story. coming up, new details emerge about the motivations of the co-pilot in the germanwings crash. we'll be right back here on "the

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arizona makes its third trip to the elite eight in five years. and the road to the elite eight continues tonight. ucla takes on gonzaga. nc state facing off against louisville. duke takes on utah. go utah! if that's okay. and michigan state takes on oklahoma. now, the women's tournament is also heating up. they go to the third round with a face between north and south carolina. university of iowa takes on number two seed baylor. arizona state plays florida state. and stan fortakes on notre dame. women's action continues this weekend with four more games. stick around. lots more coming up on "the ed show" we'll be right back. oose any car in the aisle i want. i could choose you... or i could choose her if i like her more. and i do. oh, the silent treatment.

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and finally tonight, we are learning more about the mental state of andreas lubitz who killed 150 people in the french alps in the germanwings plane crash. there was a doctors note torn up saying he was unfit to work for days. doctors had treated the 28-year-old within the past two months. they would not confirm a diagnosis citing privacy reasons. nbc's katy tur has more from outside the lubitz home in germany. >> reporter: the german prosecutors office has released findings of what they were able to find within the childhood home of lubitz and the

dusseldorf apartment. they did not find evidence of a suicide note or any note claiming responsibility for this crash. they found no religious or political affiliation either. but they did find evidence of illness. they wouldn't say what sort of illness exactly but german media has been saying he suffered from depression. he was being treated presently for that illness. there are doctors notes as well. exhuming him from work in the past few days including the day he was flying that plane and crashed that plane into the side of the mountain. that he was ignoring doctors orders not to be at work. also evidence he was hiding this from his employer which would coincide with lufthansa has been telling us. and we're hearing from neighbors they didn't see anything wrong with him. >> i could not imagine that he had done it this attention.

it does not fit in this picture. >> reporter: or from people that knew him during his flight club days. they didn't see anything wrong with him. investigators will now be looking at whether or not they can find any reason this was premeditated, any motivation for this crash. >> dr. janet taylor psychologist, joins us tonight here on "the ed show." appreciate your time. i think the american people and people around the globe are asking the question what is the fine line between privacy and public safety? i mean if the doctors said he was unfit to work but they couldn't stop him from working, that's where i think the question comes in. your thoughts on all of this. >> there's no doubt this is a tragic accident. i have heart felt sorrow for the families, but the fine line is the fact that our medical information is protected. and stigma and blame are powerful against individuals with mental illness. there are a number of people with mental illness who take their medicine who are treated

and work. and no one knows as they should. but in this case if he were in fact hiding it from his employer, the blame goes with him and not with his employer. >> could he have been so depressed that he was disconnected from reality and had no concern for anybody else but himself and that's why he flew 150 people into the mountain? >> well there's no question. depression is a consolation of symptoms that you can find if you have a major depression you could have psychosis with it. depression is part of bipolar disorder of manic-depressive illness. all of those can contribute to psychosis which means we don't know what he was thinking. he might have been paranoid. he might have felt like he was doing everybody a favor by getting rid of them. no one ever knows. but the fact is if you are depressed, seek treatment. certainly if you are not living in reality, hearing voices feel paranoid talk to your medical provider, psychiatrist, or therapist and get the help you need. so you won't kill or injure

innocent people. >> so it seems now that the aviation industry connected with the medical profession is going to have to come to some conclusion on how to deal with mental illness and aviation. i mean if the doctors said he was unfit to work but could not stop him from working, where do we go with that? >> well it's communication between the doctors treating him and his employer. clearly i'm sure if the aviation company knew he was not fit to work because we're assuming it's for a mental illness. we don't know in fact he could have had a medical illness. but there's a lack of communication. most places of employment have -- especially when you're dealing with people who are operating machinery, people who may be around children who are in positions where their mental state can incapacity them or other people there are safeguard methods to stop them from working. >> well, the safeguard methods

need to be looked at because not many people would want to board a plane knowing a pilot is dealing with depression. we will have you back to talk more about this because it is such a riveting subject. no question about it. i appreciate your time tonight, dr. taylor. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton begins right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight in tampa, florida. we start with breaking news. claims that the origins of that racist frat chant caught on video extend far beyond a single campus chapter. that's according to the university of oklahoma president who announced results from the school's investigation. >> it was learned by chapter members at a national leadership cruise sponsored by the national