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so many families only today getting the final certainty of what happened to their loved ones. and some others getting good news with people surviving and coming out and being released from the hospital. i'm going to toss it over to brian williams in new york who will pick up our coverage from here. >> thank you for your coverage from what, as we -- >> and kate snow, thank you for your coverage from what as we've been saying is no doubt the saddest place on earth. orlando, florida. to set the scene as we begin another hour following the worst mass shooting in american history. the worst loss of life on our soil since 9/11. we're expecting several events at this hour. one of them, an expected moment of silence in the united states senate, and at the other end of the spectrum, a news conference
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upcoming at the gun shop where the weapons that were used in this attack were apparently purchased. it appears the senate chaplain is reading from the lectern and we should probably listen in and follow along as the u.s. senate marks this loss of life. >> continue to trust in your infinite mercy. hear our prayers, for those who died and for those who mourn. bring healing to those who were injured. lord, give our lawmakers the wisdom to understand better the causes of violence which exist in our nation and world. use them to bring comfort, hope
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and peace in the midst of insanity. help us to remember the warning of dr. martin luther king jr. when he said, we must learn to live together as brothers and sisters or we will die together as fools. we pray in your sovereign name, amen. >> please join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance to the flag. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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>> we watch the flag in front of the dome coming down in real-time. being lowered to half-staff to join the other flags around the capital and the capital and even vessels overseas. inside the senate chamber as you heard, they begin today's session with a prayer. and they are scheduled to observe an official formal moment of silence. here is republican leader mitch mcconnell. >> the senate will now observe a moment of silence for the victims of the orlando attack. [ silence ]
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>> moment of silence ended. the senate session for today is underway as the senate will now get down to business. as we said, you saw the microphones set up outside this gun shop in florida. we are, we have reason to believe that shortly the owner will come out. is that underway as well? he apparently is speaking to reporters. let's see if we can join that. >> all the atf rules and regulations, we have a good working relationship with atf. they did not shut us down.
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today we decided to shut the doors so atf could complete the inspection without any distractions or delay. as you can see the large group here. we didn't want a bunch of people inside the store while they tried to do their investigations. if you have any questions about the inspection and compliance, you can contact carlos gonzalez in the miami office of atf. i'll say as a former police officer, i would like to commend the orlando police department and all the law enforcement agencies that responded here. they have been following it some of it on the news. i wish them all the best. i personally worked on the twin towers. i retired in march of 2002 and i was a first responderer to the flight in rockaway park. i have an idea of what they're facing in this investigation and it is horrific. so my feelings go out to the law enforcement people as well. i would hike to avoid any political issues. stick to the facts regarding
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this case. an evil person came in here and legally purchased firearm from us. if he hadn't gotten them from us, he would have gotten them other places in the area. i had an armed and unarmed license. he pass ad back ground check that every single person that purchases a firearm in the state of florida undergoes. let me say that again. a full back ground check was performed by florida department of law enforcement with the coordination and agreement of the fbi, however they conduct a back ground. there is no such thing as an abbreviated back ground check even though that has been wrongly reported. i will tell you this for those who don't know. if a law enforcement officer walks into this gun store, full uniform with a firearm on their side, that officer cannot make a purchase on a firearm. if you can believe that. if that officer has a concealed
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carry permit in addition to his credentials, he can make a purchase. there is a full back ground check done on that officer at that time. hard to believe but that's the truth. if the officer has no concealed carry permit, that officer has a three-day wait. and that doesn't include the day he purchased the gun or any holidays and weekends. i have no information regarding where this evil person took his security classes so i can't really discuss that with you. i can tell you, i recommend you contact the florida department of agriculture division of licensing. they're responsible for any security licenses being issued as well as the concealed carry permit in the state of florida. there have been a couple questions directed to me regarding whether this evil person bought body armor here number one, he is familiar to me, vaguely.
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i don't know him personally. he has been here, obviously, he purchased two guns legally. i have no recollection of anybody asking for body armor, number one. number two, we've never sold body armor and we don't currently sell any body armor. any other questions, i don't know what i can tell you. i hope that you do some truthful reporting and get to the facts and stay focused, at least for the incident and say your prayers for the victims. it is horrific. >>, would it be -- >> they, i don't want to answer questions but he did not buy the long gun and the handgun at the same time. they're approximately a week apart. and a long gun is a back ground check in florida. it is a quick back ground check with the drivers identification if you're a florida resident. as long as you clear that back ground check you can leave with that long gun. a handgun as i said, a they have-day wait.
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in palm beach county, it is a five-day wafrlt it is called a cooling off period. i don't know what else. unfortunately, he is evil. we happen to be the gun store he picked. and there's nothing else i can say. it is horrible. >> you said that he had been to your shop -- >> obviously he's been to the shop. he's been here. if a customer saw him and came in here, god bless him. i've seen him. i can't tell you i know him. i would be lying to you. he is a customer. he made a purchase and it is horrible. i'm just sorry he picked my place. i wish he picked no place. >> do you know when he bought the guns here, roughly? >> i believe it was a week or ten days, something in that time span before it happened. >> towed wait -- >> he had to wait.
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sometimes you have a conceal carry permit. even though you have it, there has to be a back ground check done. and they can deny you or give you a conditional hold. there is an issue there. and that has nothing to do with us. we follow the rules. we don't make the rules. i'm sorry to frustrate you. i don't have any more answers for you. i don't know. we do a very big business here. security training facility. civilian stuff and that's all i can tell you. i don't know the exact date. it was well over the three-day period. >> atf access -- >> i'm sorry? by law you have to. compliance for every gun dealer in the state and the country. they always do. they have every right to come in any time. our books are open to the feds and local law enforcement.
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we work with them. we have no problem. say it again? no. i can't give you that. thank you very much. i'm sorry you waited this long. >> how do you spell your name? >> if you've never met a retired new york city police officer before, you have now. that is ed henson. a very familiar character to a lot of us. i was just talking to the response of a retired officer a short time ago. he is, as you heard him say, in an uncomfortable spot here as often happens. the weapons that caused the worst mass shooting in american history, the worst domestic loss of life since 9/11 were sold from his gun store legally. he is a small business owner. as you heard him say. retired new york city police officer. worked at the twin towers at or around 9/11. and now a small business owner
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who does not wish to bear the blame for a legal transaction, a legal sale, including the waiting period and back ground check to the person we now know as the terrorist who caused so much loss of life. and as he pointed out, even if you come in as a uniformed police officer with a permit to carry, a concealed weapons permit, that's still a chain of action that will happen. there have been a lot of incremental developments from the white house, where our justice correspondent pete williams was present today for the briefing by the attorney general. and pete, in no particular order, how did this story, how did this investigation advance today? >> well, let me start with the gun thing. it raises an interesting question. a lot of people have wondered,
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if it is true, that omar mateen was investigated by the fbi, how was he able to buy the gun? well, the law has specifying things where you can't buy a gun. there are a few but it is a very narrow range of things disqualify from you buying a gun and none were present in mat eenl's back ground. if he was investigated, why didn't the fbi at least know about it? here's what we learned today. he was, mateen, these the two weapons. it was referred to as an ar 15 weapon. a generic description, the more popular model. these are pricey weapons that he bought. here's what we're told. he was investigated, full up
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investigation for ten months by the fbi, starting in 2013. after his co-worker said that he had bragged about having relatives in al qaeda being a member of hezbollah and having friends who knew boston marathon bott bombers. so the fbi did the following things them monitored his xhupgss. they put him under surveillance. they checked the terrorism data bases. they put an under cover in to talk to him them interviewed him twice. after ten months they concluded he made it all up. case closed. during those ten months he was pout a terrorism watch list. if during those ten months, if he had tried, if he had gone in to buy a gun. if he had gone into ed henson's store then, he could have bought them. there was nothing to stop the sale but the fbi investigators
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would have been told, the guy you're investigating is buying weapons. once he is off the terror watch list, that system is no longer in place. when he bought the guns earlier this month, the people who investigated him in 2013 and 2014 were not told, there is no system for that. the justice department says they never thought about that before but may now look into that as a result of the orlando shootings. a couple other things, brian that occurred to me. comey said it is clear that mateen was radicalized because of the internet. but this is not a typical picture of that. he seemed to be all over the map. he said in the 911 call he was a supporter of isis. he said in another call that he was fans of, if you will, or followers of the tsarnaev brothers who carried out the boston marathon bombing.
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ander he also claimed to be part of the, interested in the al nusra front. he seemed to be naming terrorists at random that he was a follower of. so it is very hard to figure out what is the radicalizing influence. you put it all together. it is a person who was a hot head. who was prone to violence, who said all kinds of things. it is a difficult picture to follow. also, comey said there is no direction, that this was not an externally directed attack. he was radicalized in some way. they're looking into the question of when and how he xhoes particular target in orlando and don't have the answers to that. >> if anything today, you mentioned this vis-a-vis the disconnectedness with the back
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ground check. we learned if you're a guy with his surname and alleged to have said what he said at work, the lengths to which a guy in florida, the fbi will come in. they put an undercover into his life. they followed him. and after ten months of that, declared the case exhausted with no evidence. correct? >> that's right. and two months later, he was looked at briefly again because the fbi was looking is that guy i mentioned earlier. he was from his home town. i got some training. abu-sala he tried to recrude people. then went back to syria and became a suicide bomber. the fbi discovered that mateen and this guy abu salha, people said they saw them together the fbi looked into it and said if there was a connection, it was
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the most casual and it never even got to the stage of a full fledged investigation. but you know, it raises the question. did the fbi miss something in those two looks at him. what the fbi director said today is, looking back, he doesn't think so. he thinks the agents did all they could have. he said we do this hundreds and hundreds of times a year. we ask people to say something if they see something. we look into it. we chose and it it is a hard decision to make about when to keep them going. he said these two things never seemed to lead to anything. if there is a better system for predicting who will back terrorist, they'll look at it. >> an important distinction, this notion of being self-radicalized. number one, you say his kind of aspirational heroes were all over the place, in several different movements. and number two, isn't it true, for someone to really be
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radicalized on the web, they will see your interest, come to you and take you into a side room, as it were, a dark corner of the internet where you're really brought in. >> right. that's the direct contact. it doesn't seem to be that. at least at this point. they're at the early stage of exploiting his electronic devices. i should say that they say they've got his computers and phones and so forth and they're being sent to the crime lab at quantico. one thing we learned is he doesn't have any apple iphones so we won't go into that big court battle to try on get into a locked phone. they don't see any direct reach out to him into those side rooms. it seems to be, merely, he is consuming mass terror media. >> pete williams, nobody better at this. happy to have you part of our team and have your result of our
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some photos from even before we knew the extent of what won't inside. we are happy to be joined by the former homeland security adviser and counter terrorism adviser and the presidency of george w. bush. held a number of posts before that. among that, a 13-year veteran of the justice department. thank you for being with us. thank you for being patient. we had two live events at the top of the hour. i guess i'll start with the day's reporting. what we know about pete williams reporting, among things you've heard about how this played out, what would you change if anything? >> that's the question that any president asks his national security team after a tragic event like this. what is it that we might have done differently or better to
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have prevented such an attack? first we need to acknowledge, while the fbi may have done things better or differently, they're under tremendous pressure. with the increasing number of threats. director comey has said he has investigations in all 50 states and it requires contact attention about which ones require resources. are they sufficiently resourced to the current threat. the second question in my mind, what would it have taken to disrupt from the closed investigations to the time when he bought the gun? why was that it the fbi wasn't alerted to the purchase of the weapons so they might have reevaluated the case? and had the opportunity on will invest more resources to investigate the attack? i don't think we know that yet. and third, there are these domestic guide appliances do, their internal regulations that
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govern how the fbi conducts investigations and make these assessments. we have to ask ourselves, are they too restrictive? if you and i as journalists could look at my twitter or instagram account, why is it the fbi restricts fbi investigators from looking at what is essentially public information? there again, they may have been able to glean more information. >> back to your second point, the lack of linkage between, you were once the subject of a ten-month undercover investigation but because no evidence was found, fast forward to years later, you successfully buy two womeapon that's are use in the worst mass shooting incident in american history. is that, for all the young talented people in silicon valley, we know there is no mechanism for it right now? is that software, for goodness
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sake? >> i think it is. when i was in the white house, we encouraged and insisted on information sharing. if you're rehighing on individuals to actually look at the information, evaluate the importance, pass it to the person in the other agency, you're bound to fail. it has to be automated and faster. and there has to be a way of prioritizing this information. if a guy was the subject of a ten-month surveillance, he ought to be at the top of the list when he goes to purchase weapons. >> back to your first point, sympathetic to the fbi director and the fbi in general. here's a guy in florida. somebody called him, a security guard aspired to be a cop. tried marriage, turned out to be an alleged abusive spouse. building anger, simmering anger, emotional problems.
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imagine how many of those the fbi is trying to track based on a comment overheard at work. a web search while someone was being watched. it is kaleidoscopic in the post 9/11 era. >> absolutely. but even in that deluge of potential threats, how many of those individuals had even minimal contact with the first american suicide bomber in syria? so there are distinguishing factors about mateen. the answer is how do we better focus the limited investigative resources of the fbi? and let's not discount local law enforcement. there are first responders, the first to the three. are there ways we can get local communities to the local police departments and marry that up to the national level with the information the fbi has access to. >> i asked this yesterday, how
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much of a distinction do you draw between an isis directed and isis influenced attack? >> look, let's be honest. at the receiving end. the tragic end of the victims, they don't care and it doesn't matter. the result is the same. for investigators, the real distinction is the opportunities they have and the likelihood that they can disrupt the cycle of violence. with the self-radicalized, it is. more difficult. there is an opportunity because of communication or training to intervene. so for investigators, that distinction amounts to how difficult is it and how like he is it that they'll get in and interrupt the cycle of violence. >> and as pete williams mentioned, this self-radicalized guy was influenced by group to group. always a pleasure. thank you for stopping by and
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being part of our coverage. we're now joined by chris enzo. his close friend was a bar tender inside pulse. rodney, thank you for taking time to talk to us after the hours and days you've had. tell us his story from the first time anyone knew something was going wrong? >> the first time i knew something was going on was around two or 3:00 in the morning. and then on the day that it happened. i was supposed to go downtown but i luckily didn't. i was work o'some things and talking on a female friend of mine. and we were talking and she said these texts are talking about 25 people are dead at pulse. then i started getting the same messages. and we were getting messages on twitter and next thing you know, that 25 people murdered
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situation became a hostage situation. and that hostage situation later in the morning became 50 people dead. so that caused great concern for me and every one i know. i had people calling me and asking me if i was all right because they know i live in orlando and there was a massive shooting. i wanted to figure out who was on the list and who had been affected by this. what i ended up figuring out is my friend rodney had been shot three times by an assault rifle. he is very, very, very blessed and lucky to be alive right now. >> and you said he made a decision, a split second decision to get out of there. we're hearing reports today that there was a lull while the cops were trying to make contact with this guy. while he was taking hostages. then the firing erupted again. you said that decision to get out of there was probably the smartest of his life. >> rodney made a very bold
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decision. it was a very dangerous time for him. in the time line, he got out before the hostage situation and the cops were not on the scene. when he got shot, and those bullets snapped him on the floor. he was hearing nonstop semi-automatic gunfire. he heard each and every bullet hitting people. he heard the bullets piercing their flesh, breaking their bones, causing them to scream and cry. he was waiting for a cease fire. he never heard a cease fire and heard nothing but constant shooting. so in that time he decided to risk it all and run as fast as he could, knowing fair well he could have got shot. and he did successfully get out. >> it is unbelievable that he chose that moment. because it only got worse. >> it did. and he was lucky enough to run into a friend of his named josh who was able to escort him to the orlando regional medical
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center, only one or two blocks from the incident. so fortunately the surgery that he has undergone today has taken place. i was made aware there was a complication due to a fragment. we don't know the exact status of his recovery but the family is taking time to be private in what's happening in their family and they will reach out. they will share with the news and me what is going on with rodney. and as soon as rodney is able to come out and speak about the horrible terror that he suffered, i'm sure he would be more than glad to educate us on america's largest mass shooting in history. >> think of the fact you're using terminology like cease fire about, a weapon that is normally associated with warfare. these are wounds normally associated with warfare. and this happened in your community. what do you make of that? >> these terms are being used because this is a war zone.
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this was a terrorist attack. if all the citizens in orlando are hearing helicopters, seeing people coming out crying. hive friends call me to tell me they're not going to work because they are afraid to leave their home. they're afraid to be outside. they're afraid to be participant in the night life. because of that terror they're feeling, it is up to me and people in the community want to take a stand as leaders and we want people to realize that we do not accept terrorist attacks. we will not let them have the last laugh and we will not let them live in fearful we've been standing strong since this incident. we've had over 5,000 people don't it a blood to the victimized people of this terrorist attack. >> chris enzo, thank you for what you said and for joining us today and the very best for continued recovery for rodney
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. we are back. bad news for all those who hoped our presidential politics would take a bereavement holiday during this period of mourning after this staggering loss of life. no such luck. we heard first today, a fairly somber speech from hillary clinton. as you may know, her manned campaign outing in green bay, wisconsin, with president obama, was canceled because of what happened in orlando. then later today, donald trump
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gave another speech in a controlled setting, teleprompter, a live crowd was present. it was a speech very much in light of the shootings and very much aimed at hillary clinton. i am told it will be one year on thursday since the very start of the trump campaign. that means that nbc's katy tur has been out on the road covering this for one year. she is with us from the scene of the trump speech. >> reporter: hey there, brian. this was certain they most red meat we've seen donald trump dole out in quite some time and that's saying a lot, considering he has a tendency to hand out red meat when it comes to immigration and terror. this was more addressing what he calls america's general will immigration problem. extending the idea of his muslim
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plan to include people from countries of all countries who have ties to terror. ties to radicalization. it has been pointed out a number of times on twitter. if donald trump is setting his sites on immigration and asking this country to rethink their immigration policies, period, he should note that his own mother was an immigrant. she was born in scotland. being called very much an attack on muslims. recall they say they know what's going on. they see their fellows radicalized in front of them but they're not telling anybody about it. that they are keeping it secret. also saying that he believes hillary clinton is part of the problem. that she and barack obama aren't doing enough to stop this. that she won't do enough to stop it if she gets into office. he also went after her on the issue of guns. take a listen to how he put it.
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>> when i'm elected, i will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the united states, europe, or our allies. >> reporter: and hillary clinton, although he says that she's trying to take away all guns, excuse me, she is actually only called for a ban on assault weapons. so that is a small fact check from that speech. he said the suspect in orlando was born in afghan. he was not born in afghanistan. he was born in new york in 1986 in queens, a mere miles from where donald trump was born. when asked more about that, we talked to some donald trump surrogate who's said ultimately, this is an immigration problem. a problem that should be addressing those that came here even 30 years ago. such as the suspect's parents. >> katy tur covering the trump
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because obama is not letting them do their job. >> this was as they say, a full-on donald trump speech today. one person with this news organization from msnbc tweeted the following observations while it was going on. that was the most important speech of trump's campaign. all sub texts set aside, now pure uncut demagoguery against all muslims in u.s. and out. this is platform of a far right european party. the gop has completed its transformation. trump keeps angrily insissing muslims in america aren't turning in terrorists. he says they come by the hundreds of thousands. and finally the muslim ban is now the number one security priority of the republican party. which brings us to our next guest. even though she would do anything to get out of this commitment right now. we always do this to nicole
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wallace. the communications director in the george w. bush white house and senior adviser to thor mccain campaign. this becomeser the number one priority of the republican party under presumed nominee donald trump. what to you make of that? >> i can't help but go back to what george w. bush did two days after 9/11. one of the first events he did was to travel to a mosque on massachusetts avenue in washington, d.c. before he even visited ground zero which is one of the first things people remember. it makes me think when you think of all the hand wringing and the acrobatic that's people do with the rhetoric in the republican party, about whether they endorsed trump or they're just going to vote for him.
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it is the heart break of what our party stands for. i want to inject a little bluntness about what he's for. there are people out there who are terrified so they are for this idea of banning muslims temporarily. that doesn't make them bad people and we can't lump them into what are bad and irresponsible statements from political leaders. from this point forward we should try to separate out what trump is for and the people who support him. i think the people who support him are justifiably terrified. i watched an embarrassing number of hours of coverage yesterday. i just kept watching and waiting and some answer and some solution. the people that are responding to trump's solutions are not bad for responding to what he's calling for. but as the presumptive nominee of the republican party, general heyden said this morning that his ideas are not making this problem, this long, long war
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that we're engaged in against radical islamic extremism better. it is probably worse. >> when form he communications directors of both parties get together. if there was a manual, a rule book. what is the speech? a challenger gives the day after the worst attack on our soil since 9/11? >> you have to get your facts straight. i think that trump, there is always some kernel of something good. if i had to give him a kernel. by trump standards, he used the teleprompter. there was a script. but the rule book is to leave politics out of it for a minute but that's an fair standard to hold any of them to. hillary clinton was on the phone dialing into the morning shows, as was donald trump. you've covered every presidential campaign i've worked.
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on campaigns are covered in a way that isn't reflected in the way voters make a choice. we talk day after day about the decisions the candidate makes. the decisions the campaign makes. in the end what voters decide is a gut saying. they watch how the candidates respond to outside it happened in 2008 with the financial crisis. what's happening is very important to the political process. but we probably overstate the importance of what candidates actually do. >> i'm also seeing this transference. we saw it in the tweets i just read. people, especially on the other side, are saying to republicans like you publically identified lifelong republicans who have worked for the establishment, this is on you now. are you okay with this? this becomes your policy going forward if he's your presumptive nominee. >> well, i think you know the answer as far as my personal views. i mean, a lot of us are very much not okay with this. the republicans i worked for
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talked about not attending the gop convention. there is this piece and i alluded to it before about not breaking faith with the base. the hard, messy work that isn't going to end in a way that's pretty but is important is to go in, understand why the base of the republican party, some of them support a muslim ban. it is un-american. it is unconstitutional. what's the void being created by leaders on both sides of the aisle. there was a stunning moment this morning when congressman pete king who knows about 9/11. i think he lost more people in his district on that horrific day than anyone else in congress. he and hillary clinton both appeared on "morning joe" and agreed on things. it was like this precious piece of dialogue that's so rare. if you ask establishment republicans what they think about their nominee, they are heartbroken about the things he says that are so polarizing and the opposite direction we want to move. i think it is important that i would be remiss if i lumped in
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all of his voters with that. they're looking for something no one else in my party has delivered. the onus is on the republicans to understand the fear and speak to solutions more in line with our values. >> right or wrong it is the defining theme and defining story of the election cycle. there is also this from donald trump on facebook. seven minutes ago. based on the incredibly inaccurate coverage and reporting of the record-setting trump campaign, we are hereby revoking the press credentials of the phony and dishonest washington post. do you happen to know the back story here? >> i think the washington post was one of the most aggressive outlets in running to ground donald trump's promise to give -- i think he said he'd raise $6 million for veterans. i don't know if this is the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. there may have been another sin in the eyes of the trump campaign. there was a lot of animus toward
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the washington post for, in trump's opinion, pushing a story where he tried to do something good for veterans, raise money and the night he skipped out on the fox debate over his feud with me gyn kelly. washington post deserves the credit for running the story to ground about whether the money was delivered to veterans. that may be the root of his fight with them. i don't know if there was another event that precipitated the revoking of credentials. it's unprecedented that it would happen to the washington post. as a communications director was certainly engaged in feuds with media outlets. i am not aware of a fight going to this level. >> switch sides. what would your advice be to a hillary clinton campaign for the kind of speech to give on this day after? >> well, you know, think she was a more astute student of the republican primaries and some of the republican candidates themselves. what she did this morning -- she
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came out, called it radical islamic extremism, didn't get herself wrapped around an axel the way republicans feel president obama does by refusing to use the term. she came out and projected strength. the way donald trump won the republican primary was by being the strongest leader of the bunch. i may get in trouble with some of the other candidates but the voters saw him as the strongest leader. hillary clinton, if she learned anything from watching the process, i think she learned you have to almost preempt and prebut donald trump on a day like this. sadly, tragically this is not the first terrorist attack in this country. i'm telling the wrong person. you have been in the chair covering them. but the clinton camp studied how trump responded to san bernardino, brussels and paris. they knew what he would do and they got in front of him this morning. i think it affected him. it was one of the first instances where she got ahead of
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him in terms of projecting strength. she has a lot of experience on him. she laid the foundation in the speech she gave about allegedly a speech about national security but really about fitness to serve. the most fundamental gut judgment we make, are they fit to serve? she has strung together strong weeks. if her campaign can keep it up, she's unified the democratic party. if she can bring in strong national security figures with respect on both sides of the aisle she's teed up to string together a strong couple of weeks for her campaign. >> nicole wallace, former bush communications director and an mvp around here. part of our coverage this political season. thank you as always. >> thank you. >> i'm told katy tur is in front of a camera to talk to us about this polling revoking the credentials of one of the larger members of the traveling press
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corps, the washington post. katy? >> reporter: absolutely. tlef threat they have threatened a number of us. they have kicked out a political reporter a number of times, escorted ben schrekinger and given him credentials back. trip gabriel, a reporter for the new york time s after he posteda story about the ground game in the run-up to the iowa primaries. this has been threatened quite a bit from the trump campaign. but to have them totally ban an entire up ins organization certainly is a new development. i can tell you that they have had a tremendous amount of access so far on this -- in this campaign cycle. i'm not sure how they are going to go about continuing with this. >> all right. katy tur with the trump campaign in new hampshire.
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