meeting with the attorney general and her e-mail server. >> let me just repeat what i have repeated for many months now. i never received or sent any material that was marked classified. >> donald trump wants criminal charges for clinton. how he may win on message, regardless of the fbi's decision on clinton's e-mail server. president obama set to hit the campaign trail this week with hillary clinton. can he get his supporters fired up for her? and new day, new terror attack. the death toll at more than 150 dead and rising. this time a crowded baghdad marketplace targeted. zwl . clinton emphasized she continued to be forthcoming. her camp saying the interview was voluntary. >> it was something i had offered to do since last august.

i've been eager to do it and i was pleased to have the opportunity to assist the department in bringing its review to a conclusion. >> then there's the unplanned meeting between former president bill clinton and attorney general loretta lynch. both sides saying it did not include any discussion about the current investigation. casey hunt joining me now with the latest on that. what are the next steps you're seeing here for the clinton campaign on this? >> nice to see you, richard. as you heard hillary clinton talking there about how she feels about this and how she was eager to get this over with, i think that gives you a little window into how the clinton campaign is hoping this might resolve itself sooner rather than later and of course result in no charges for her. the challenge is how this feeds into the overall narrative we're

seeing in the following, that is how voters are struggling to trust hillary clinton. she is addressing it on the campaign trail. she talked about it yesterday in that interview with chuck todd. >> how does it feel to have voters believe donald trump is more honest and straightforward than you are by nearly a 2 to 1 margin? >> chuck, look, i have said that i'm going to continue to put forth my record, what i have stood for, do everything i can to earn the trust of the voters of our country. you know, when you've been in the eye of the tornado for as long as i have, i know that there's a lot of incoming fire. i accept that. but i'm going to, you know, keep standing up and talking about what i have done and what i will do. >> so there you have it.

she of course has talked about this particular issue that she faced over her political career when she was campaigning on the trail earlier this week. her husband bill clinton also had that impromptu meeting with attorney general general loretta lynch. both say in hindsight they wouldn't this done it, but it contributes to this overall perception of hillary clinton as untru untrustworthy. >> after the news casey was just telling us about, the meetings, donald trump responded in a series of tweets going after the secretary and her husband. katy tur has the latest on that. trump was back on the campaign trail on tuesday. how is the campaign planning to respond to the headline this is weekend? >> he's back on the campaign trail in north carolina of all

places. that is where hillary clinton will be campaigning with president obama for the first time, so a whole lot of secret service in that one state. we can already see how the campaign will be responding to this hillary clinton meeting with the fbi as well as the meeting with bill clinton and loretta lynch, the personal meeting they're calling it in the clinton campaign. they're trying to say the system is rigged, that there's one set of rules for politicians, people like the clintons and another set of rules for regular folks. we've already seen them put f d forward this argument that she's not trustworthy. what's interesting is after this meeting with the fbi, i'm told the trump campaign came up with a pretty hard-nosed statement responding to this meeting. they were going to run it by donald trump himself, but for some reason that statement never came out, only the statement from the rnc. it's interesting that they

didn't capitalize on that momentum yesterday. it could be that they're waiting until tuesday to really go after her for this meeting with the fbi. again, the meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch and also her submitting to a meeting with the fbi plays into the narrative that donald trump has been trying to paint, that hillary clinton is not somebody that can be trusted in politics, that she cea's only in it for herself, not the american people. >> the trump campaign saying -- he teased us that his list of speakers will be released next week. >> he says he's going to be releasing the list of speakers on wednesday. we've been told over and over again it will be winners that they're going to have on stage. so far the winners that we've heard specifically will be members of his family, his kids and including melania trump. there's also talk about it being potential sports figures, people that have endorsed him so far

during this campaign season.tkag he would not be a part of this. he wants to make it more of a show, something that's not boring, something a little bit more hollywood pizazz on it. things are plugging away at the convention right now, but there has been some upheaval over there and we're continuing to chase story lines on that at the moment. >> we're talking about it being hollywood or pizazz, the vice president announcement. of those that are being talked about, makes us kind of wonder who might be that one we're not talking about that could be that pizazz. >> i've been told by sources close to the candidate and the campaign that it wouldn't be surprising if donald trump was head faking us all with this idea that it could be newt

gingrich or mike pence or chris christie. while they add legislative experience, they could out shine him in a way. they add something that donald trump doesn't have. that's not necessarily what he would want in a partner. i'm told to look for somebody a little less political but more somebody along donald trump's personality. somebody that would work with him, something that is less of a partner and more of a figurehead in the office, something that will go to things like funerals and act as a yes man to donald trump, an ed mcmahon to his johnny carson. ultimately this is donald trump's decision. i don't think anybody has any idea of who it's going to be as donald trump could change his mind at any moment. >> thank you so much, katy tur in washington, d.c. appreciate that. joining us now is the

executive director of the new york state democratic party and tomorrow former senate aide to hillary clinton. also adam goodman and eleanor clift. eleanor, i want to talk to you. with your wide group of sources here, we have clinton surrogate senator sharon brown from ohio saying today on abc an indictment is unlikely, this going back to the fbi interview that had happened yesterday. what are your sources tell you? >> people who know far more about the law than i do have basically said that the statute under which this investigation is being conducted having to do with classified e-mail on this personal server, that it requires for an indictment for there to be kuculpability. there has to be malice

aforethought, a willingness to cha share classified information willingly and that the culpability falls on the person who sent the classified information, not the receiver. so that would seem to vindicate hillary clinton to some extent as well. when you look at the law, it's very difficult to come away and think there's an indictment here. but the fact that the attorney general has kind of taken herself out because she doesn't want the appearance of political interference, i do remember when eric holder was attorney general, he reduced the suggested penalty that the fbi wanted for general petraeus from a felony to a misdemeanor. if loretta lynch tried to reduce any kind of suggested penalty, there would be a huge out cry. she knows that especially in the aftermath of her social meeting

with bill clinton. >> right. the rnc as katy tur was alluding to earlier responded to clinton's meeting yesterday and wrote in part, the fbi wanted fer hr questioning reinforces her central role in deliberately creating a culture which mutt her own political ambitions above state department rules and jeopardized national security. if that ends up being the case, does it weaken the republican nominee's attack line here? >> well, first of all, the meeting between former president clinton and attorney general lynch, that was lousy. it's politicized the situation beyond what it should have been. it involved a person hillary clinton that the american public just simply don't trust. my theory about why hillary clinton does this or doesn't do this in terms of speaking out, being square, telling people the

truth, is what i call the paranoia of imperfection. she fears imperfection, which is why she had an e-mail situation months and months ago that she had addressed and directly addressed. could have been a challenge she could have over come. she has the benghazi -- >> i'm waiting. i'm hearing what you're saying but i do want you to answer my question if you can. >> i'm sorry. her situation right now is to try to show to the american public that the perception of fairness is in play here. this e-mail situation -- remember, richard, her own i.t. dr director who goes back to the 2008 presidential campaign, in deposition pled the fifth 125 times in 90 minutes. there are a lot of unanswered questions. i think the secretary's unwillingness to be more direct and forthright with the american public has exacerbated a situation. i, like eleanor, can't speak to

the law. i can speak to what people are feeling. we're seeing that in the public polling that says we simply do not trust hillary clinton. >> lots of questions surrounding the meeting between bill clinton as adam's bringing up and loretta lynch and our own chuck todd had that exclusive interview with her yesterday afternoon. i want to play a little bit of that and her response to it. >> it was a short chance meeting that occurred and they did not discuss the department of justice's review. and i know that some nonetheless have viewed the meeting in a different light. and both the attorney general and my husband have said they would not do it again. >> so really tough questions from chock touck todd here. how did she handle the interview? >> she handled it just fine. it was a chance meeting and she said that.

i think she was very clear about that. loretta lynch was appointed by bill clinton in 1999 to the eastern district here in new york. i don't think there's anything untoward here. and i think hillary clinton is right to say whatever you feel about these e-mails, we're not consistently engaged in these situations where you can create all these conspiracy theories around it. i think part of the challenge for her is unwinding that narrative. and i think she's done a good job of that. >> the narrative is really long here. over the campaigns that you have covered over the years here, you know the unfavorables as well as the trust question, it's an unfortunate venn diagram from secretary clinton. the numbers are not necessarily getting better, or are they here? >> going back to 1991, just think of all of the scandals,

the pseudoscandals, the made-up scandals -- there's not any there there. the clintons do have this sort of unfortunate pattern where they look guilty even when they're not guilty. i'm getting tired of everybody saying it feeds into the narrative that she's not trustworthy. not trustworthy about what? to do what? as the media we have a little more responsibility to dig into exactly what that means? do they think she's going to be lining her pockets as president? i mean, what exactly is at the heart of this? or are we all just kind of falling victim to a lot of sludge that's been thrown at her over 20-30 years. >> maybe that's really it there. these are poll numbers that we're bringing up. it really is those who are out there in america saying they do have this question about

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an update on breaking news we're watching. iraq, now the number dead in an attack there, at least 167 just a couple of hours ago, about 150. terrorist attacks in a baghdad shopping area, it is the deadliest attack in baghdad this

year. >> so many families torn apart by this two separate bombings. isis claiming responsibility for the biggest one. it took place in the neighborhood of baghdad, an upscale area full of. sh shops, restaurants, hotels. this was outside of a busy shopping center. a powerful blast tearing down multiple buildings. the attack was timed to have the deadliest impact. this blast going off just after midnight, which meant families were out and about. they were breaking their ramadan fast. they were also celebrating the end of the school year. so it would have been a very busy time at this hour. the explosion was so strong, in fact, that iraqi firefighters were still trying to extinguish the flames in the morning. rescue workers were pulling bodies from buildings.

families were trying desperately to find their loved ones. this was the deadliest attack in iraq this year. it is so significant. these aren't soldiers who are dying on the battlefields. they are ordinary families enjoying their weekend, very much like americans might be on this fourth of july holiday. unfortunately one thing that experts keep telling us is that as isis loses ground in parts of iraq and syria, the group is very likely to keep lashing out with attacks like these in order to stay relevant. >> of course we'll be following that breaking news story throughout the day. baghdad is the latest in a wave of terror attacks in just the past month. we've seen attacks in bangladesh where 20 hostages were killed in a cafe in dhaka. security around that attack site was tightened today as officials searched for evidence.

authorities released photos of five attackers along with their names. according to police, their families say they had not heard from them in several months. a makeshift memorial was set up today near the bakery to honor the victims. three u.s. college students were among them, including one u.s. citizen. and the deadly airport attack in istanbul investigation continues. i want to bring in general mark kimmet. as you have looked at this over the recent weeks and in this latest spate here, how do you think about this? >> there are two things i think we need to focus on. number one, isis is going to attack the soft targets. when you've got a million and a half people inside of a city as you do in baghdad and elsewhere,

there are a lot of soft targets. second, it shows that isis is metastasizing unlike what the administration said that they have broken the pack oback of i. we're starting to see isis in places we didn't expect such as bangladesh and istanbul and the sinai in egypt. isis is growing as a threat and the soft targets are becoming even sottefter. >> are we moving fast enough in termscreative thinking? we've talked about increasing the zones around these soft targets. >> i think isis and its affiliates and franchises are moving faster than us. if you go to dulles airport or national airport, they have less protection at the front

entrances than istanbul airport. there are no walk-through metal detectors. there are no baggage screeners. second, this is fundamentally an intelligence problem, not a defensive problem. as long as we continue to have this debate over privacy versus security and not get on with what is needed, i think we're going to see more of this as john brennan said at the counsel on foreign relations the other day. we are not immune to this type of attack. >> what would be the number one thing you'd do? >> increase our intelligence efforts. >> who needs to do this? >> the director of national intelligence and for foreign intelligence, certainly the director of the cia. >> what about country-wise? >> that's what tsa is supposed to be doing. >> should the united states lead more on this as some might say? >> i think it's got to be both.

there is an international terrorism network. there needs to be an international network against terrorism. we don't really have that. ten years ago, sentcom was talking about the long war. it takes a network to defeat a network. >> stronger this july 4th weekend, 2016 than july 4th, 2015? >> well, i think so, but not strong enough. >> thank you so much. we're following a developing situation this afternoon as welcoming out of new york. an explosion has seriously injured one person in central park. police say the 19-year-old man was hurt just before noon today. he friends say he stepped on something that exploded. according to the fire department the man suffered an amputation and was taken to the hospital. a source familiar with the

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let's just put you in the scrum here. what do you tell the president's teams here that he needs to say to help clinton's unfavorability. that whole narrative of her being untrustworthy. >> well, to be honest, i wouldn't tell him to focus on it. the voters that have doubts about secretary clinton, about trustworthy or honesty, i have a ten dency to believe most of thm are republicans and aren't going to vote for her anyway. there's a stark contrast between her vision for the country and donald trump's vision for the country. what i would say to president obama is come out there and make it very clear why she is the right candidate at the right time to lead this country

rward given the challenges that we face. sell her on experience, sell her on her strengths. don't get into some endless debate that feeds into a narrative that republicans want to fixate on. >> obama when he's on the campaign trail and you've seen him, folks on both sides by most accounts say he does really really well here. as a republican strategist, what would you like him not to do for instance if he hits the midwest, he's in wisconsin, he's in ohio. he can be very effective. >> he can be. the upside of the president campaigning with secretary clinton is obvious. he's great on his feet, great on the stump. the only burden right now is his legacy. i think what he also brings to the table good or bad is his whole legacy and his record.

she now undeniably is going to be there campaigning on the obama record. that means on the downside she has to now be held somewhat accountable and has to explain her position on things like national security, domestic security, income inequality. you might say it's a challenge and a mixed blessing. i think the upside is a more popular president than he was six months ago. on the downside you have history. only once since 1950 has ra pa y succeeded in holding the white house more than eight years since the passage of the amendment that limited everything to two terms. >> let's build on what adam is saying there. even though president obama's approval rating is at 50% right now according to gallup which is

for instance better than president bush's was at the same time. the point might be made is this the third term? she's got to run on that. plus you add all of the other years that she and her husband have served in public office. >> yeah. i think it's more asset than negative. if you look at recent history, this is the first time we've had a sitting president who's out this campaigning. it's the first time we've had a sitting president who's popular enough and who's wanted on the campaign trail. elections focus on fundamentals. and two, the president's approval rating. getting over that 50% mark is really important. and all of the issues we just cited, well hillary clinton shares the basic premises that

president obama has run his presidency on, she's tougher on foreign policy. she's really addressed the income inequality issue. in the end, it's the contrast with the other candidate. on so many of these issues, i think hillary clinton does better once it's a on the traco >> there is a good number who are not happy despite the approval rating for the president right now. and move onto this, though. chris, you might call vice president biden getting out there with clinton in pennsylvania, he less polarizing to moderates here? >> well, he speaks to a different audience. he speaks to that middle class, working class audience. through the rust belt, the industrial part of the country. the reality when you look at the

economy, there's good news but there's also bad news where you have a significant swath of voters. i think the vice president gives secretary clinton someone who is a powerful surrogate that not only speaks to that voter but connects with them on a visceral level. i have a feeling that you may see in a very strange twist -- because you don't often see the vice president and the president out there during an actual presidential race. but i think you're going to see biden and obama out there more frequently that you have in the past in any other kind of historical context. it will be unique because of the ability to speak to different audiences. >> with potus out there and v potus out there for secretary clinton, he's got some strong

voices, different voices to get out there and address the diverse america that america is. when you look at donald trump, he doesn't have the same sort of bench. >> well, anyone that tries to put a filter of analysis on donald trump on anything that bears on the conventional of course has to go back to the drawing board. >> this is true. >> i think first of all, let me just address what you just talked about with joe biden. it's a great show. i think that's what democrats decided to do. they are all in for hillary clinton and they're going to show that on the trail. donald trump is going to run a different kind of campaign in an environment, that despite everything that's been said by a huge factor americans are really down on where we are right now and where we're going. we have a wealth gap that's increasing. we have a middle class that's shrinking. people are looking for change. the challenge for secretary clinton in this campaign is to show without the crutch of surrogates whether or not she can be an agent of change.

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on this fourth of july weekend, a community of world war ii vets is taking pride in their bravery and service to protect america's freedom. they are filipino americans who played a critical role in the fight against the japanese during world war ii. more than 200,000 were called into action to protect the united states. promises of benefits and citizenship only partly

fulfilled since then. now, there is a bill going through the house to get the vets what supporters say is due to these veterans, the congressional gold medal, the highest civilian honor. a group of airmen received the same recognition in 2007, something the african-american community applauded. retired major general antonio taguba. help us understand this. how much of a difference did filipino americans play in world war ii? >> first of all, richard, thank you very much for inviting me to your program. it was a great contribution. the filipino veterans of world war ii, 200,000 fought in the philippines to defend the united states. it's deeply rooted in the u.s. history. and for the past 70 years, after the passing of the rescission

act in 1946 that deprived them of their citizenship and also their benefits, have played a large concentration of getting our community to elevate this for their recognition since most of them are passing away today. a group of us as you mentioned took action to seek the help of senators and representatives to get us through this passage which is forthcoming, we hope. >> major general, tell me about how many there are that are still alive. when you talk to them, what would this mean to them? >> we think there is between 15,000 to 16,000 remaining today from the original 260,000. and we talked to them, one in

particular, asked me last month before he passed away, how much longer do they have to wait. that question has resonated with our community. that it would take them over three-quarters of a century to wait for a country to give them their recognition that they richly deserve. and we don't know if any other veteran organizations or veterans like them that would have the patience and the perseverance to remain loyal to our country and wait for recognition. >> major general, we think of the armed forces. we think of service to our country. but somehow we don't put filipino americans into that same bucket of the veterans that we often talk about. what don't we

>> they have always shown honor and devotion to what they did during the war and today. and it's hard to fathom that they would have to wait. >> you are history making as a major general and being filipino american. why is this personal to you? >> my father was captured and escaped after the third day, as he tolme.

>> and then later fought as a guerilla and never mentioned any of this until 2011, four months before he died. after seeing and supporting our filipino americans since world war ii since i was on active duty, i think it's time for our country and community to be able to recognize that they did contribute to our country's defense, to our country's ability to progress and for our nation to be recognized for what they did for our country. >> again, you're hoping that after the july 4th holiday that this will move forward in congress. thank you so much, major general. next, the company that's melting down weapons of war, trying to prove the pen is more mighty than the sword.

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expected to hit the how is this week. it's believed to be similar to one they already proposed and rejected by democrats earlier. this one would require the notification of law enforcement if a suspected terrorist tries to buy a gun. the attorney general would have three days to prove in court that the individual should not purchase a firearm. democrats say the measure does not go far enough, this after their sit-in on the house floor last month aimed at a ban on weapons purchased by people on the government's no-fly list. california is not going to wait for federal action. governor jerry brown signed six new gun control bills earlier this week. they called for a ban on so-called bullet buttons that allow this user to quickly reload. meanwhile, one business is taking on the issue of gun violence. they're saying the pen is

mightier than the sword, or in this case a gun. they're taking assault rifles like the ak-47, melting them down, then resmelting them into pens, pens that cost $350. the guns come from africa and they're hoping to take at least 5,000 of them off circulation. what's the desired outcome? >> so at cross is 170-year-old company. we've always believed in affecting social change. guns are a big problem across the globe, of course. and we were out there looking for partners. and we ran into a gentleman named peter who's breaking down assault riles fles in africa an making fine jewelry and watches.

and we partnered with him to make these pens. >> it's coming out in the fall. you take one ak-47 or that type of gun off of circulation. you turn it into one pen. >> correct. so for every pen purchased we take one gun out of circulation. and every the gun out of circulation is less deaths. >> what's on this? what we see here -- >> that's a serial number of the ak-47 that was destroyed. >> and these etchings on it. >> it's designed with the design of an ak-47 that you can see there. it's got accents of 23 carat gold. >> why would business get involved in this very very contentious issue? >> we've always felt that corporations have a responsibility to society and guns are killing people across this country and across the world. >> have you gotten any blowback from this? >> we haven't. we want to take the first step. i think other corporations should get involved as well and

affect chan effect change in this country. i hope to sell 5,000 this year but i think the sky's the limit. >> when you're looking at these numbers, 350 bucks, some say it's a little expensive. but you are taking one assault rifle out of circulation. >> correct. and over time we are partnering with peter with a company called liberty united which is basically melting down handguns in the usa right now, also making jewelry and pens. >> you want to save lives. how many do you think you'll be able to save by taking these guns out of circulation based on what you've seen so far in your research? >> thousands. each assault rifle is killing people out there and we're delighted to get it out of the world and destroyed. >> when are you going to do this in the united states? >> next year. liberty united. you can look online. basically melting down handguns. there's 35,000 deaths a year

from guns. working with police forces, melting down guns that have been seized, illegal guns that have been seized. >> fantastic. thank you for coming today on this very topic because it is so important. will you expand the product line at all? >> we will over time. if i can make a statement, i'd like every senator and congressman to have one of these pens as that daily reminder that we've got to stop gun violence in this country. >> thank you. they hope to make a difference on gun violence. you will be doing this in the united states starting next year. that does it for this hour. i'm richard lui live at msnbc world headquarters in new york.

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