we are continuing monitoring our demonstrations around the country tonight. live demonstration in atlanta right now. there seems to be roads closed where there is a bit of a standoff in small crowds and police officers gathered there. chris hayes continue our live coverage now from dallas. >> good evening from dallas, i am chris hayes, it is now 11:00 p.m. we are continuing our live coverage of last night's deadly attack left five dead and seven wounded. largely protests against police violence continuing across the country. this is a scene in atlanta, georgia where a large protest have been met with police for hours now. it had remained peaceful. the mayor reid came out at one

point. and in baton rouge, louisiana, dan sheppard is at the protest and is joining us by phone. dan, what's going on there? >> hey, chris, it is some what a peaceful protest near the head quarters of baton rouge police. police presence is here. we are approaching 1,000 protesters and 200 law enforcement and many of them in riot gear. it is peaceful. law enforcement did show up eye yacht gear. law enforcement are letting protesters having their say. >> law enforcement announced they're going to leave the area.

for the most part, a lot of them have but you can see from our live pictures a lot is happening. it is possible for people to leave but they are not. we are waiting for it to play out >> dan sheppard live in baton rouge. you are looking at live images there. here in dallas of last night horrific attack. in response of the killing of philando castile and sterling. a mirage of gunfire broke out prompting police to seek for cover that it became one of confusion and terror. [ gunshots ]

[ continued gunshots ] [ continued sirens ] >> reporter: the man is a lone gunman micah xavier johnson, they quartered johnson in a parking large and after hours of negotiating, they had no choice to detonate the bomb that killed johnson and ended the standoff >> he was upset about black lives matter. he said he was upset of the recent police shootings. the suspect said he was upset at white people. the suspect stated he wanted to kill people especially white officers. >> according to police searching

at micah xavier's home they found materials and tactics. brent thomason married just two weeks ago and patrick zamarripa, a father of two. >> and michael krol said he only wanted to be a police officer and michael smith and lorne ahrens had been with the department for 15 years, he's a big guy with a bigger heart. >> president obama, we heard his meeting with allies cut short to return to washington to plan his travels to dallas next week. joining me now is correspondence, tammie in dallas. >> tammie, twhawhat's the lates all of the wounded status?

>> reporter: we know there are still victims being treated here and as we know those victims are police officers. there is been a number of police officers coming and going around the back of the er all day and paying their respects. police officers from all over the state of texas and some of them were here last night and was a very emotional moment at one point in time when police officers lined up and two of their police officers came through the er and they sat there and saluted them and paid their respects. we learned of the three officers injured are mcbride and jesus retana. the doctor describes the scene is just as chaotic.

he said they had very little warning and they had no idea how many more patients were coming in. as for the nurse, she's married to a police officer and she described the moment for me when she was treating these victims and she realized they were all police officers. she said it was just terrifying for her and extremely emotional. >> chris, back to you. >> tammie, thank you very much. >> thank you for being was. incredible work we got to say. the folks in the medical field last night, they were working through the nights. a number of people recovered because of their good work. joining me now is nbc's tremaine. we are looking at pictures in baton rouge. people are protesting on the site of alton sterling were killed by police.

i have been watching over social media of i am mamages coming fr baton rouge, it looks a lot like ferguson. >> you think of louisiana being the poorest states in the country and in baton rouge, had a higher poverty rate. these divides of those who have -- it felt like a community beaten. but, also the community rising in the faith of this shooting. what happens is if you see a shift. you have a strong black middle class of the nacp. >> you have the community coming out of where sterling was killed >> folks who are activists and going to protests and there is a whole spectrum of people that

are not and don't consider themselves halvoc and that's wht we saw in ferguson. people who are not paying in politics. i have talked to a guy yesterday named mitch, he said he kno knows -- as soon as the cops pulled behind them, he will put his hands up. >> that's the people we are dealing with every single day that are mobilized. >> what occurred to me thinking of michael brown's death in ferguson and since that time, we had protests and there were two officers that were murdered in new york in 2014, we have these five individuals murdered last night, they have been in that time over a thousand citizens shot by police and a small percentage of those, what has changed. structurally and policy and what

concrete? the task force by the federal government and there is some performances in places. it is hard to point to affirmatively. >> a lot of people were -- we'll get in politics and trying to change things. we have seen that to some degree and we have seen some programs set up and in ferguson, they had the boys and girls club now. that's the part of the new generation, they're tired of waiting and i talked to a minister yesterday who lost his son and killed by police. he said, you know, it reminded him of older -- calm down, you will get himself in trouble. and i don't condone violence bus something is going to change. week after week, we see a new

video of a new young black man and mcdonald that we also forgot about, laquan and now the case in minnesota, enough is enough. >> we have a situation of which has happened is there is reactive politics and calls for charges and calls for changes. those have proved in efficient and there is going to be real structural changes of what we tell police to do as oppose to what we tell them not to do. >> earlier today, i was at a press conference, i asked questions of the lieutenant governor earlier of saying black lives matter where hypocrites were running from ballots. >> texas governor dan patrick, at the same time we were watching the video, people were crying. those officers did not deserve to die. >> always good to have you on the road here.

>> thank you very much >> all right, a short time ago, i spoke to the man that was falsely identified as suspect and he attacked his brother. i started by asking what happened. >> i decided to come to the protest. everything was peaceful and it was a historical moment and then chaos broke out. once chaos broke out, i was thought to be a suspect. >> how did you find out that your picture was circulated as a suspect? >> i received a phone call that i had just been seen on the media outlet because my brother had just interviewed me and i was in the background. i took it as they saw me on the news and they identified me as a

suspect and the shooter. >> you saw that image of your brother circulating. what did you do, corey? >> i went to panic mode number one then i went to defense mode. i thought it was time for me to reach out to authorities that hey, my brother was accounted for the weapon he brought down and he turned it over to law enforcement and chaos broke out. i thought it was important for me to clear his name immediately because i was afraid for his life. again, i have been telling people all day, we were here protesting of a young man killed because he was legally carrying a firearm. with me, let me hurry and let them know it was not him >> what was going when the shots rang out, it seems -- the folks that we talked to and the coverage that we have seen is unthinkable. what was slashing through your mind when you heard that sound?

>> well, i didn't hear the sound. where i was at, the crowd, we could not hear it. we were seeing people running back. i thought maybe a fight happened. i did not hear it. >> i hear them. >> it was quite scary. i was in the front. we were ending the protest and you heard just happened fire, some louder and some quicker and the first thing i thought was orlando, i thought someone had come in and shooting and i didn't know what direction he was coming from. once i got my parents i took off running and people going back the opposite direction. after that, my next thought is let me find him so we can get this firearm in the authority possession. >> you described last night of protests being peaceful.

talk about protests before those shots ranging. >> i think it was a moment of us being in unity and letting dallas know that we stand with ferguson and louisiana and we stand with minnesota because some of the same issues they had there. we wanted to let people know that you know we stand in solidarity with them and that we are promoting changes as well. it was a great time, it was blacks and white as and latinos and different faith. it was one of those moments where the crowds was energized and we are marching and the cops were friendly because they understood our cries and chaos broke out. >> reporter: i want to ask you a question, there is a lot of people -- why would you bring that gun to a protest?

>> because it is my right. i have the right to bare arm. i have a right to put my shirt on. >> exercising our second rights. it is never a threat or a problem. it just seems to be quite a coincidence, maybe so much coincidence that the one black man had a gun becomes a prime suspect of the country >> thank you very much. >> still ahead as protests continuing around the country, we'll talk to the mayor of the atlanta. next. >> i'm alex trebek. if you're age 50 to 85,

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we are looking at live images in phoenix, arizona. as there is been a lot of protests. a lone gunman shot and killed five officers and injured many others in dallas, texas. there are also protester in baton rouge that we just mentioned, there are still protests happening in the streets and atlanta and georgia tonight. although that seems to be thinning. there was a massive crowd blockibloc blocking the female tonight.

joining me now is mayor reid. what is the situation in your city right now? >> i think things are steady and whining down a bit. the individuals blocked an entrance. i think our protests and no arrests. we had 10,000 protesters today from many young people from our university. i think we are going to get through the day with very little property damage and people exercising their rights. it is going to be a long night. >> mayor reid, there is a comment that you made that's sort of flying around social media in which you said doctor king would not take a freeway or block a freeway. there is a lot of folks

responding on twitter, i don't know if you have seen pictures kind of spread and questioning whether if that's really true? > > . >> yeah, those people don't know what they are talking about. there is a great deal of those preparations going in. walk me through the way they protested. wheth they planned their protest thoroughly, they had plan to communicated with the community. that's erratically different from leaving a mark and walking into the freeway. that's the point that i made. anybody disagreed on social

media -- i actually did. >> i think they know more about walking across the entrance and on social media. already, mayor kasim reid of atlanta, i appreciate your time, thank you very much >> thank you. >> reporter: police chief david brown is well familiar. the 33 years o ld veteran of th police department. nbc news has more. >> our professions is hurting. >> david brown, this tragedy is personal. >> there are no words to describe the entrocity that

happened to our city >> i am david brown. >> less than two months after she was sworn in as chief six years ago, he was tested in both professional and personal way. >> i appears the shooter is going to be david o'neil brown jr. >> chief brown's only son was killed after he gunned down two other people. one of them was a police officer. >> i remember sitting at the burial site and everything else is a blur. >> the 30 years police veteran endured the violent death of his brother and his police partner. he's always known for his kindness and often posting pictures on social media showing his dedication to the people of dallas. >> we are not going to let coward who would ambush police officers and change our

democracy. tonight what his city needs the most, he's a strong steady voice of compassion and concerns especially for his fellow officers. >> all i know is that this must stop. this decisiveness. >> chief brown has dedicated his whole life to one job. >> i can tell you, i have never been more proud o f our police officers and be apart of this great noble profession. >> a department that's put to its greatest tests with his chief commanding the way. >> nbc news. >> reporter: joining me now casey tomas. councilman, what are your feelings of the police chief. >> chris, thank you for coming to dallas, i know it is a tough situation for all of us here. chief brown is someone who i considered to be a friend and someone that reach out to me. he was assistant chief and he

wanted to make sure that the naacp and the police had a good relationship. he's someone that i have grown to respect and known over ten years. i commend him for being a stabilizing force and a quiet voice during this crisis over the past 24 hours, can you believe it is only 24 hours? >> reporter: it feels like a week. i can only imagine how it feels for you. >> having this to happen, it is a job for all of us. we are up to the challenge and may mayor rawlings has done a phenomenon job, keeping everybody and keeping everything moving in the right direction. we have seen the lone wolf in this case that did the damage. >> reporter: has there been -- i have been talking to a few people today and it seems like chief brown implemented a lot of

reforms. it seems like there is been some resistance in the department. >> yeah, especially when you have change that, you know, officers -- doing things a certain way for a long time and someone who comes along, this will be better for the community. this community policing initiative that chief background represented have made a world of difference for our community. it has made our jobs as council members easier. >> reporter: has there been a problematic change in how officers are like and issuing tickets or pulling people over or stop to ask questions? >> as far as the standard process that officers do, that has not changed. those relationships, i think that's the difference in what we

are seeing here in the eye of many other cities because police have a leadership and focusing on building relationships with the neighborhoods and the communities and with the kids. >> reporter: council member, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> still to come, black lives matter movement has come under tremendous criticism. fox news declared a "hate america group." >> don't go anywhere.

today black lives matter responded to the dallas shooting with a statement, this is a tragedy. black activists braced the call for an end to violence and not an escalation of it. yesterday attack of a lone gunman. i spoke with black lives matter cofounder alicia garza. >> well, first and foremost, i think it is important for us to acknowledge that any time somebodi somebody loses their lives, it is time. it is a tragedy. black lives matter never ever called for the murder of police

officers. we have said over and over again, it is time in this country for policing to be accountable and transparent and responsible. >> that's not rhetoric. that's what communities in the united states want to see from the people who protect and serve them. we can at the same time grieve the loss of lives of several officers who were kill last night. we can push to demand there be accountable and responsive and transparen transparency and accountable to the communities they are suppose to protect and serve. >> reporter: from your perspective, is the problem that we face of a problem of the police or a problem of policing, meaning is it the individuals that comprised of 1.3 million

law enforcement officials and the folks that are there or is it what policymakers have assigned those individuals of the system, what the system demanded those individuals to do? >> absolutely. the issue that we are concerned with is the hyper criminalization of black lives in this country. and, part of how that happens is through policing and there is an entire system that deems black people as criminals and acts on that assumption. there are people who are tasks carrying out that activity. we are not anti-police. we are anti-our people being murdered in the streets. what happens with alton sterling and philando castile. that's something that we can all agree on of what happened.

>> i think after what happened last night, here is my fear. many of which i spoke to about decisions about use of force, it is a split succession second decision. we live in a country with more guns than people. anyone can be armed. if you make a wrong decision, you are going to be killed. are you worried essentially that the experience last night in dallas is going to be perhaps understandably, i think, scared and more on edge in the weeks and months to come? >> i am. i am concerned that what we'll do with these tragedies is use it as an excuse of civil liberties. last night of a peaceful demonstration happened in dallas. the reality is peaceful demonstration have been happening across this country for years now.

unfortunately, with the characterizations of groups like black lives matter, movement as domestic terrorist organizations, i am concerned that the level of rhetoric that's coming from the far right and the people who are being kind of consumed by a level of fear is that it will curtail our ability to have freedom of speech and our ability to reshape our democracy which is a fundamental right up from every person in this country. what i hope moving forward is start to have real conversations about what needs to shift. we don't need to have more guns than people in this country, that does not have to be our reality. we don't have to live in a country where you are more likely to be shot and killed by police officers then you maybe to graduate from a college university, those are the

dynamics that we need to change. if we want to move in a forward direction, we'll do everything we can to address the root causes of some of the problems we face. >> i want to ask you one question, it is been two years coming up this august as michael brown was killed in ferguson. >> is there something when you started that you knew about criminal justice in this country about policing that you know or now realize that you are wrong about? >> i think in the three years actually since black lives matter has formation, one thing that i am clear about is black lives matter is not just concerns och what happened in policing. the disregard and the disrespects and the lack of dignity for black lives transcends through the fabric of our society and if i am clear about anything today that i may

not be cleared about when we started black lives matter in 2013, i would say that what i am clear about now is we are in for an uphill battle than this country particular is having a difficult time of the root causes of the problems that we face. unfortunately, i do believe that we are going to have a lot of chaos and confusion. >> lisa garza, thank you very much, i appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, the propresumptive nominees responded to the multiple shooting this is week, we'll play you what they said after this break. (lock clicks)

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shoes. i think we have to show our support for our police under very difficult circumstances, particularly as we have seen in the last day of the bravery of police officers running towards danger and being shot down. at the same time we got to do criminal justice reforms. we need national guidelines of the use of force and lethal force. if you see traffic stop, don't escalate into killings. >> reporter: donald trump posted a message on facebook and here is a portion of that. >> a brutal attack of our police force is an attack in our country and an attack on our families. we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement which we must remember is the force between civilization and total chaos, every american has the right to live safety and peace. the death of alton sterling and

philando castile also make clear how much more work we have to do to make sure every american feel that their safety is protected. >> reporter: joining me now is our congresswoman, this is your district and i am so sorry for what happened here. >> thank you for your sympathy. >> how do you think this week is going to be in washington? >> i wish i could predict. i hope it will have some effects, making it very clear that we need more weapons out of the hands of people especially who are not emotions or mature enough to have them. i feel good about a bill that we passed the house this week on mental health, it is not strong enough but it does something. it does more than we are doing now. and it took ieeight or nine yea for me to get it done.

i really wanted to get it done. ted murphy, who was a psych ecolo psycholo psychologyist. i really do believe that that person has post-traumatic stress syndrome. after the fact is what we do all the time. we need to address issues before it gets to this point. >> that's an unknown at this point in terms of our reporting. we know he's a combat veteran. >> it was certainly something that away from emotional health

>> well, as a policymaker when you look at these incidents and i asked jeh johnson today, when you look at an incident of shooter, a lone gunman and a person appeared to withdrawn himself and not unlike somebody on the roof or omar mateen coming from different perspectives and guns whether it is legally or not but we can assume that's a possibility. how is the policymakers addressing that? >> i think we can eliminate with background checks. that's very different from having a gun or protecting property or a shotgun to go hunting. a war weapon has no place on our streets. >> reporter: what i am hearing for you is calling for weapon ban that's passed? >> yes. >> reporter: you think we should

have something like that? >> i really do. i want to call to release the public so we can get it passed. >> reporter: all right, congresswoman, what do you see as your role and job here in the district of yours in the wake of what happened here last night? >> i see my role continuing to work with the leadership here in dallas, we have a strong mayor and we have a strong police chief, city manager and county judge and all were together last night. we can do this in dallas. we have done that here. we have had a past where we work very hard and of assassination of the president here. we worked through the years that i have worked with one police officer chief after another. that -- we don't have a police problem here. >> i cannot say that everybody is perfect but we have a good

police force and a sensitive police force. >> we heard that throughout the coverage, congresswoman, thank you. >> reporter: we'll have much more ahead.

in the three days we saw two killings of two men and last night of the chaotic and horrifying scene here in dallas. joining me now is dean watkins, the professor of the university of baltimore. dean, you and i talked last year or so of what went down in baltimore, how does this look to you and what's going on in the wake of freddie gray in the wake of baltimore?

>> you know i think approaching a similar situation that has just been going on throughout the country. people are getting tired. i just try to use my platform and the power that i have to push unity and how can we connect and build. i would hate to see what happened in dallas happens in baltimore, i just want to focus on things to bring us together. >> has there been any significant change in the way where baltimore police department polices the citizens of the baltimore particularly of the black and brown of baltimore since the freddie gray's death. >> there is a couple police officers will get a lot of media attention who are nice to activists and people who are trying to address these issues. the average everyday, police officers don't get it. they don't understand that they work for citizens.

we have to keep working hard to help them learn how to communicate with the people they work for. >> reporter: yeah, working for citizens is an interesting phrase there. one level of police officers serving and another level of police officers of the state. one of the things we have seen in that interaction is the awful interaction is the sheer fear and terror of that woman in the face of someone who is public servant and a democratic lead, elected government have put that person and it did not look like that. >> we have to take the time and energy to teach them, you know, you work for the people so you should be doing everything in your power to service the people but there is this weird contrary in this country where police officers protect and serve and people who are rich -- we have

to get them to understand that, we as a citizen, we feel bad, we feel bad for what happened in dallas. you know, we don't want that to happen. police officers need to feel bad for what happened in baton rouge and minnesota because it is just as horrible. >> all right, dean watkins, thank you for joining us, i appreciate it. after this week, my interview with jeh johnson, the homeland security, we'll be right back. >> i cannot support him because of what he said about the judge, that was too crazy. >> that was the final straw for isn't it true. >> do you hope what other members of your party are doing what ru doiyou are doing now? >> i do. to learn more.

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secretary, homeland security, jeh johnson, here is part of our conversation. >> it is part of your job and the government and the department of justice and the fbi to protect america from terrorism. there are many people who called after various mass shootings and in orlando and dylann roof and now in dallas, this term, what does it mean to you? >> well, there is many different definitions of terrorism. this is clearly an act of hate of the statement the individual made about himself about police and white people. the investigation is still early, it is less than 24 hours old, we want to know more about

this individual's affiliations and who he may be in contact with. the individual does not appeared to have any links or affiliations with any former terrorist organizations, isil or al-qaeda. it is still an early investigation, we want to know a lot more, federal and law enforcement is working overtime right now to learn everything possible there is about this individual before we put that type of label on this particular act. it is not to say that what happened last night in dallas is any less terrible than an act of terror but there is more to learn, i believe. >> i just mentioned having gone through the massacre in charleston, two mass shootings, san bernardino and last night's in dallas and somebody wanting to kill police officers

especially white officers. >> i have said this for some time now, the global terrorist threats that we face is involving to include terrorists inspired attacks. those who are self radicalized and their own reasons commit actions of mass violence. very often the label which we choose to put on something depends solely on the motive. the action could be the same or the weapons could be the same and so in that respect, it is becoming more complicated to put labels on a lot of the mass violence that we see and reflecting in the law of nature of the threat we face here in the homeland. >> reporter: this guy precisely, your job which is your task preventing and the fbi and many

law enforcement preventing attacks. how can you prevent a lone individual, self radicalized along which ever ideology from carrying something like this out? >> it is a whole government approach. when you were conducting your last interview, i saw one of my vehicles driving by of my backdrop there, one of my fellow protective vehicles. it is a whole approach. we'll continue to do that. we are taking back territories. here at home, it includes the law enforcement efforts and federal states and local and i believe it is critical that public vigilance and awareness is something we continue at, public awareness and vigilance can and have made a difference.

it is important we build bridges across the country and not just the american muslim communities but a number of communities. this is a whole government, we are going to correct to note th the situation and the environment has changed since the department of homeland security was created in 2003. and we've got to adjust to that. and we are adjusting to it. >> all right. secretary of homeland security, jeh johnson, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> all right, live from dallas, that does it for "all in" this evening. but msnbc's coverage continues next. rachel has the night off tonight, but she will be back on monday. now this is atlanta, georgia right now. just a giant protest that has been growing throughout the night, throughout much of the afternoon and the evening. this is philadelphia within the hour. and there are also