feet. wow. that's the first guy to ever skydive without a parachute and survive. what is the emoji that produces in us? you know your phone and list of them. come on. it's shock. shock? i guess that's what that is. i'm shocked. i'm happy the guy survived. luke akin, congratulations. i'm steve kornacki. "mtp daily" starts right now. >> if it's monday, donald trump in battleground ohio today ignores the elephant in the room. his controversial fight with the parents of a fallen muslim army captain. instead, trump trying to turn the page saying he fears the general election will be rigged. it's "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. i'm kristen welker in washington in for chuck todd. welcome to "mtp daily."

at this hour, the republican party is trying to douse the flames of the latest trump controversy that has set the political world ablaze. veterans groups are demanding trump apologize for criticizing the parents of a fallen muslim soldier. khizr khan and his wife who are speaking out against the republican nominee. just moments ooh trump helihis first rally since firing back at what he called vicious attacks from the khan family. but he steered clear of the controversy instead warning voters of a rigged election in november. it comes after obama addressed a group of disabled veterans making these comments about military family who lost loved ones. >> as commander in chief, i'm pretty tired some of folks trash talking america's military and troops. no one has given more for our freedom and our security than our gold star families. >> house speaker paul ryan and mitch mcconnell have both put

out statements in support of the khan family. neither statement mentioning trump. john mccain a veteran and former p.o.w. taking a more aggressive tone saying while our party has bestowed upon donald trump the nomination it is not accompanied by unfettered license to defame those who are best among us. the vfw, the nation's oldest veterans group coming out just as strongly saying, election year or not, the vfw will not tolerate anyone berating a gold star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression. a group of gold star families wrote a letter to trump demanding he apologize. your recent comments regarding the khan family were repugnant and personally offensive to us. to discuss all of this, i'm joined by someone who signed that letter and member of a gold star family, stephanie fisher who joins me from california. she lost her son army staff virginia thomas foegerty in afghanistan. thank you for joining me. i want to thank you and your son for his service and his

sacrifice. we really appreciate your being here. >> thank you very much. it's my pleasure. >> so let's just start right there. tell us what you would like to about your son and any reaction that you have to these unfolding events. >> well, of course, i'm very proud of my son and his service, and i stand beside his service and those of his fellow soldiers who are still in the service and serving across the world. i think it's very important that we remain solid in our support of them. yes, that's where i am as far as my son is concerned and his fellow soldiers. and as far as being a gold star mother, i took great offense at the comments made recently toward a family who was expressing their opinion. >> is there anything that mr. trump can do at this point to

make this right, if he were to apologize, for example? should he apologize? >> i think he should apologize. i would like to see a genuine apology from him with the realization of the hurt that he has caused. and this goes across party lines. i would never want to see any gold star family criticized for exercising their opinions on any sort of platform at all on either side of the parties. i would also like to see the leadership, the gop leadership come out and make stronger statements to and about mr. trump to repudiate what he has said. it was very unnecessary the way the mother of captain khan was insulted, and as a gold star mother, my friends and i who are

fellow gold star mothers, we absolutely abhor this type of tactic and going beyond the pale in this election cycle. >> let me follow up with you on that point. we have heard a number of the gop leadership, mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, come out with sistve strong words saying this is a hero we're talking about and this is not the way we speak to gold star families. are you saying that's not strong enough and more needs to be done? >> i believe what he says that captain khan was a hero, but he made no mention of mr. trump in that statement. and that is what i think myself and the people who are also gold star families are looking for. we would like to see this behavior recognized and chastised and stopped. it demeans our process.

it demeans our election process. and it demeans the sacrifice of our soldiers and those that are serving now. >> is this actually disqualifying, do you think, as a voter? >> pardon me? >> is this disqualifying, do you think, that donald trump would make these statements? does this disqualify him, in your eyes? >> through my eyes, i would rather say that i think he is a long way from being a diplomatic leader at this point. i don't want to politicize this issue. to me, this is about a gold star family that was taken out into the media and mistreated by a political candidate for their own gain. fd and to me, that is what the real issue is and voters will have to

decide for themselves whether mr. trump needs to be disqualified for this. i have my own personal opinions, yes. >> would you vote for mr. trump given that he's made these comments? >> not at this time, no. >> because of these comments or separately? >> as a whole. and that's just -- that is a personal opinion. >> okay. let me just play you very quickly something that sam clovis said. he is with the trump campaign. i want to gettior reaction on the other side. >> you really put yourself in a very vulnerable position when you politicize something that is so very private. i think what happens is a lot of this, as the dust-up that we see inside the beltway or inside the new york media circles. >> to that point, does the khan family run the risk or the clinton campaign who has been weighing in on this of overresponding and of politicizing it, doing exactly

what you say you don't want to see happen. >> no, i don't want to see it overpoliticized. i do want to see it addressed as a separate issue. i think mr. trump has politicized it. and i believe that that is the problem that i personally and most of my other gold star mother friends agree with. and that prompted our letter. >> all right. stephanie fisher, really appreciate your coming on this evening and again for all of your sacrifice. thank you. >> thank you for having us, and thank you for letting us have our say on this issue. >> indeed. i'm joined now by the host of the hugh hewitt show on salem radio network, nbc news political analyst hugh hewitt. >> good to be here. very difficult subject. >> i appreciate your coming to talk about it. >> the veterans family group with which fisher is affiliated, thoet vetote vets, called trump

comments un-american. are his comments un-american, hugh? >> it is my view that gold star families, there are 6,000 of them, whatever opinion they hold, is not to be challenged by a civilian like me. so if gold star family likes trump or doesn't like trump, likes secretary clinton, doesn't like clinton, i do not criticize them. they are their opinions. i separate and do not react to it because i believe very strongly about this. i've had gold star mothers in my studio. i've helped gary sinise raise money for the fund. i keep the badge of j.b. blacksmith in my studio in california. his father, he was killed in the first battle of fallujah, november 11th, 2004. his father is a friend of mine. each of these family members, fathers and mothers, sons and daughters, husbands and wives have their own reaction and the only reaction for a civilian is to listen very careful and empathize and try very much to

understand the death apth of th sacrifice. my advice for mr. trump is to meet with the families of the fallen. i point to george w. bush's statement today. he doesn't want to be involved in the race but put out a statement today that he prays for these families every day. that's the right response. >> i want to unpack your answer. there's a lot there. would you go so far as to call the comments un-american. >> i don't call any comments un-american. we have a wide and robust spectrum. they certainly were awful. i would not make them. i have rebuked them. i was here with alex witt yesterday. i said pretty much the same thing. the khans are american patriots. mr. khan is very eloquent on the set with chuck on sunday and very gracious to mr. trump. and he has to practice with the empathy and he ought to sit down with gold star families. >> do you have any indication baseod what you're seeing with mr. trump and the tweets he's putting out. that he would meet with them? >> it's my recommendation.

if i were him, i'd call up gary sin ise who is the bob hope of our generation and spends time with these families. i'd ask gary to come to my campaign and sit down and counsel me on how to do this. it's hard if you are a civilian like me. i married into a military family. i learned via my wife and her family how to deal with this. if you are a civilian, it's hard to learn how to deal with it. sometimes you don't know how to do it. he began in his interview with george stephanopoulos to start off the right way n then veered off course and dug deeper. it should stop. >> you raised the example of former president george w. bush who a lot of folks have talked about today in terms of how this situation should be handled. president obama. both of them criticized by veterans families, gold star families. when you make an enemy and wage a war in this way with a gold star family, can you be commander in chief if you don't understand that unwritten role? >> george w. bush had a

longrunning disagreement with cindy sheehan. i believe one of the code pink pounders. she was adamant against the worry. even at the height of her criticism of him, president bush treated her with respect. i'm quite certain dorothy woods who is the surviving spouse of ty woods killed on the roof in benghazi has put out a hard-hitting video directed at secretary clinton for telling her to move on and dorothy wood said, i don't have to move on and you don't get to tell me to move on. i think they are both civilians who don't really know what they are doing. they should listen to their crit ics. >> i wonder what extent you're concerned about down ballot races when you see yet another controversy surrounding the trump campaign. let me read a few comments from folks up for re-election. kelly ayotte said i'm appalled. roy blunt, stop responding to every criticism. rob portman does not agree with donald trump's remarks. marco rubio. it's unfortunate, sergeant khan is a hero.

t pat toomey. captain khan is a hero. you have people put in a tough position of figure out how to respond to donald trump. >> let me draw the line between gold star families and politics. i have worked for years. goals star families are different. i want to put them over my assessment of the politics has nothing to do with how i believe they ought to be treated. on the political side, donald trump's running a volatile campaign. he is counting on the vandals overrunning rome. he's counting on massive turnout, previous that have not previously voted, winning pennsylvania and ohio and people that feel left out, disappointed, disengaged. i do not believe this episode or any one episode that does not involve race would cost him the election. the judge curiel comments were the ones where i thought republicans were about ready to abandon him in droves. he's moderating. he's a learning machine, learning how to navigate politics. i don't think this will have a lasting impact on the election.

it ought to have a lasting impact on how america treats gold star families. >> what about down ballot races. i understand donald trump. you don't think it's going to hurt these down ballot races? >> if those candidates treat gold star families with respect, and they all have. john mccain's statement was the hardest hitting of them all. kelly ayotte has been a force for great good on the armed services committee for soldiers, sailors, are amen and marines as is rob portman. i don't think it will have an impact on them. but every one of them, and most of them already have, learned how to talk to gold star families. >> i want to read you from your column over the weekend of donald trump. he has many flaws and some strengths but he isn't a racist or dangerous demagogue a mussolini. i guess my question would be what proof do you have for all of that, and is there anything he could say that would make you say, you know what, i'm not

going to support him. >> the george curiel comments had he saying that. he learned from that and backed away. i have great -- i taught for 20 years. i have great belief in our constitution. i don't think paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are easily rolled. i know both men very well. i don't believe for a moment he's a dictator in waiting or a demagogue. the line about him being a demagogue crossed a rhetorical line. he is simply strong wild and different, outside of our ordinary politics. and he's different. but, no, i don't worry about that. i'm going to vote for donald trump because the supreme court hangs in the balance. if hillary clinton gets one selection, it goes left and conservative is done and you can't believe anything she said. yesterday to george steph -- to chris wallace, she out and out lied again about comey. coming up, is russia trying

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it's still too early to really say whether hillary clinton is getting a post-convention bounce, but the clinton folks are probably feeling good about these numbers. this poll just in from cnn shows clinton leading trump by seven points in a four-way matchup including gary johnson and jill stein. a new cbs poll shows clinton leading trump 46% to 39%. a week ago after the republican convention the two were tied at 42 apiece. in a morning consult poll, clinton is up three points after philadelphia. last week trump was up 40% to 36%. up next, we'll talk to someone

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get back to great. this week, these items just one cent each. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. first she lost her job as chair of the democratic national committee. then lost the convention gavel. could ousted dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz lose her seat in congress? after the worst two weeks of her political life, she's facing an increasingly tough primary battle. internal polling from her democratic challenger shows wasserman schultz leading but by just eight points. canova's camp says that's been striking distance. he saw a fund-raising boom in the days following the dnc chair's exit from her post. canova who has been endorsed by bernie sanders says he is the true progressive pick in the race. today is the last day for voters

in that district to register as democrats, if they want to vote in the august 30th primary. joining me now is tim canova, the law professor and candidate who wants to unseat debbie wasserman schultz. thanks for joining me. >> nice to be with you. >> let's look at the bigger picture. debbie wasserman schultz still leading in that poll. she has more money, more name recognition. she is favored to win, but she also has high unfavorable numbers at this point in time. you don't have a whole lot of time. is it too late to come back in this race? >> not at all. we've been gaining a lot of ground in the last few weeks. of course, the wikileaks revelations and her fall from the dnc has really undermined her credibility and her favorability ratings in the district. so we're doing fine. we're very well positioned. we've got a great feel operation. we've got all the issues breaking our way. she's made a mess of things in a lot of ways here in the

district. she's neglected her constituents for a long time, and a lot of these votes she's taken have come back to haunt her already. she's been taking a lot of money from special interest and these special interests are raising concerns among voters in the district. her ties to big sugar when at a time when the big sugar companies have contributed to an environmental disaster with the blue green algae tide. something like 70% of voters have doubts about her because of her ties to big sugar. and she's got ties to the pay day lepding industry. a big issue here in florida. where these predatory loans are trapping a lot of folks in a cycle of debt. she's neglected senior citizens on -- >> let me ask you about one of your challenges which is name recognition. >> yes. >> and you are appearing on shows like this, but in addition to that, what is your strategy for getting out there and introducing yourself to voters

when you don't have a whole lot of time? >> i'll tell you, we've raised more than $2.5 million and we're spending it in a number of ways. four field offices. a lot of canvassers knocking on doors. since i've not been calling for -- dialing for dollars the way most candidates, do i've been raising money online, it frees me up to get around the district and meet with folks. of course, we're spending money on direct mail, tv commercials, radio ads. our name recognition is rising rapidly. and i feel good about that. >> your district went for hillary clinton in the primary. you have been endorsed by bernie sanders. so could that actually be a liability? >> you know, i would have seen that side of it a few weeks ago. but at this point, bernie sanders' favorability rating in our district is now over 80%. and voters see that this man could have blown up the party. bernie sanders could have really walked away from the convention and hurt the party. instead he did the honorable

thing, according to many. he did a very patriotic and selfless thing by endorsing hillary clinton. and his favorability rating is over 80%. that's more than 30% higher than debbie wasserman schultz's rating in the district at this point. one wonders whether hillary clinton would even want to be seen publicly with debbie wauserson schultz the way she'd probably drag down the ticket. this is -- >> we should be clear there's no indication. she's never said anything to that effect. we want to be clear about that. >> to what effect? >> that she doesn't want to be seen with debbie wasserman schultz. >> no, no, that's my speculation. i'll admit that. but the point is that bernie sanders is very popular in the district right now, and debbie wasserman schultz resigned in disgrace. >> is he going to be out campaigning with you? what's the plan? >> he's been very busy with the convention and that just ended. this district and broward county are the bluest areas in florida and have among the lowest voter

participation and turnouts in the state. my campaign is attracting a lot of new voters. today is the last day that independents and republicans can register democrat to vote in this primary. according to the broward county supervisor of elections, over the course of the last few months, thousands of independents and republicans have reregistered democrat just to vote for me. that will help her win broward county and the state of florida. >> let me just ask you one more question because we're running out of time. i understand your lawyers are preparing a claim with the fec against debbie wauserson schultz alleging she was unfairly using resources to influence this election. do you have any hard proof of that? you say those leaked e-mails are a part of that. >> sure. the wikileak e-mails are the big part of this case. my lawyers have been going through these e-mails.

19,000 e-mails. we're not rushing to get the complaint together. it's a treasure trove. and it's very clear that wasserman schultz was using the dnc resources to monitor my campaign and strategize on how to crush the campaign. that's a violation of federal law. so we're preparing a complaint to the federal election commission on this. that's just the tip of the iceberg on what she was doing at the dnc. a lot of folks are very unhappy with her. she'd be a drag on the ticket at this point. she was neglecting the interests of this district for a while. the highest absentee rate in florida's delegation last year against senator marco rubio. she's not been attentive to the needs and problems of this district and folks loorking for a change. >> we did reach out to the dnc and to debbie wasserman schultz for reaction to the suit you're file, and we haven't heard back yet. tim canova, thank you -- >> may i just say we have that in common. i've reached out to her to get her to debate me and she keeps

dodging the question. it will be interesting whether she comes out on to cable as well. >> we will continue to monitor that. tim canova, thank you for your time. and to discuss all of this, i want to bring in our panel, susan page of "usa today," national review's ileana johnson and ruth marcus of "the washington post." thanks to all of you for being here. a lot to unpack. let's start with this race in florida, debbie wasserman schultz facing a real challenge. he's fired up, but she has the name recognition, the money and has been there since 2004. can he really win? >> i think he could because i don't think he needs to have name recognition because his name reck nis is inition is i'm debbie wasserman schultz. bernie sanders is not just going back to new york and cleaning up the house after the campaign. he has a political operation that he's launching. he wants to help a lot of

candidates. one of the candidates that seems to be at the top of his list, what a surprise, is tim canova. >> and to that point, you expect he'll be out there quite a bit? >> in an ordinary year, debbie wasserman schultzs would be easily re-elected but this may not be a regular year. if people are looking for change and are disgusted with the way politics is working, that could help a candidate like him against someone so identified with the power structure in the democratic party. >> this is an election cycle that favors outsiders. debbie wasserman schultz ea's problems aside. >> if conservatives were smart they'd be running a keep debbie wasserman schultz campaign. she was meeting with joe biden, trying to get him to raise money for the dnc. asking him to film a video for her daughter's bat mitzvah.

conservatives should be trying to keep her in office if they had a strategic vision right now. >> i want to shift gears and talk about this controversy with donald trump and the khan family. we have a mash-up of some of the back and forth. i'll get your reaction on the other side. take a look. >> if you look at his wife, she was standing there. she had nothing to say. she probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. you tell me. plenty of people have written that. >> the way he showed disrespect towards the gold star mother of this country, that says it all. i cannot say what i feel. that proves the point. he has not read the constitution of this country. >> he said you have sacrificed nothing and no one. >> that sounds -- who wrote that? did hillary's script writers write that? >> this person is totally incapable of empathy. he is a black soul. >> hugh hewitt was here and said

you don't pick a fight with a gold star family. is this the controversy that does it? >> we've been saying for a year this is the statement that will finally undue donald trump. this is a point he's talking not to a republican primary audience but a general election audience. he's talking to suburban women and college educated voters, and this is very dangerous terrain for donald trump that offends a lot of people. >> susan hits what the issue is here, which is that this is a general election. n that's the real challenge for him in terms of dealing with this. we thought we'd see a trump 2.0, that he would recalibrate more quickly after these controversies but that's not really what's happening, is it? >> i think donald trump stepped in this the day before we officially entered general election season. i think we know by now he is not going to pivot. he's not going to change.

he's not going to modify. he cannot be reformed. he is who he is, and, you know, if he loses on november 8th, i think this is the clip that will be played first in the highlight reel of why he lost. and also, i think the democrats deserve credit and did a fantastic job in fielding quite a talented speaker and spokesman for their cause who has been doing a great job making the rounds on cable television. >> hugh hewitt says it won't hurt the down ballot races. but you've got to be jittery if you are a republican locked in a tough re-election battle. >> you are a republican locked in a tough re-election battle and you look at donald trump say this and say, oh, well, it's not a problem for me. no republican in a race, tough or not tough, wants to see this. no republican wants to have to justify this. no republican that i've seen who is not working for donald trump really is justifying it because

read mrs. khan's op ed. >> it's gotten a lot of clicks. people are flocking to the website. >> it is one of the most viewed op ed pieces eave ever run. probably the most viewed op ed piece we've ever run. >> ruth, eliana and susan, stick around. we have a lot more to talk about. and we want to show you some live pictures now. omaha where hillary clinton will be campaigning. we're keeping a close eye on that shot. we're expecting her to take the stage very shortly. still ahead, how donald trump's comments on russia are playing on the world stage. stay tuned for that. when it comes to healthcare,

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welcome back to "mtp daily." the russian government is again deny anything involvement in the hacking of the democratic national committee. today a kremlin spokesperson called the accusation absurd and accused hillary clinton of being, quote, emotional. he went on to say, quote, russian state agencies have never done any cyberterrorism and are not involved in it. it is out of the question. democrats including the clinton campaign say the hack and leak of the information is a sign russia is trying to influence the u.s. election. joining me to discuss all of this, former u.s. ambassador to russia and clinton supporter michael mcfall. appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> i want to start right there and get your reaction to what the kremlin is saying, that they absolutely are not participating in any cyberintelligence gathering. what do you say to that? >> well, it's very common for senior officials in all countries to deny doing

espionage and intelligence so these statements happen all the time. but let's be clear. russia has tremendous capability when it comes to this kind of intelligence gathering. and they've done it many times. and in this particular case with the dnc hacking, most experts, including our own intelligence officers have concluded with high confidence that these were the russians. >> and there's also this sense that they are doing it for political purposes, to influence the u.s. election. do you buy that, and what is their main motive? is it because donald trump has made these positive statements about vladimir putin? >> let's be exactly clear what we know and don't know. we know with a lot of confidence that it was the russians that stole the e-mails. we know for certain that it was wikileaks. by the way, a foreign entity in and of itself that released the data in order to influence our democratic process. what we don't know precisely is if the russians gave the data to

wikileaks and wikileaks nor the russians will ever tell us but nobody else has said they've done that. that's the circumstantial part of it. in terms of policy, it's very clear to me that mr. putin and the kremlin would prefer mr. trump for very rational reason. mr. trump says things that the russians like. he says things like we should reconsider whether crimea should be recognized as part of russia. he says things like we should reconsider our relationship with our allies. he says things like russia is not in ukraine. most surprising thing he said recently about foreign policy yesterday. those are all things the kremlin supports so, of course, they want to see trump as the next president of the united states. >> since you raised some of his recent controversial comments, ambassador mcfaul, let me read you some of trump's latest tweets trying to walk some of that back. one of them reads, when i said

in an interview that putin is not going into ukraine you can mark it down. i'm saying if i am president. already in crimea. so clearly trying to walk back that first statement where he seemed to muddle that. so with all the obama tough talk on russia and ukraine, they've already taken crimea and continue to push. that's what i said. so he's trying to turn this around, trying to walk it back. do you buy it? >> well, that's not what he did say. he didn't add that dependent clause, if i were president. and that's -- maybe everybody makes mistakes. if he wants to clean it up and say he has no intention of recognizing crimea as part of russia, that would be fantastic. he has no intention of relitigating our relationships to our nato allies. that would be fantastic. but there's a deeper problem. when you're president of the united states, you don't get to say one thing that has giant implications for our national

security and then say, oh, i really didn't mean it. i'm glad he's cleaning up the record but i also think it underscores just how either how little he knows about foreign policy or how sloppy he is about it when he's talking about it. let's not forget he's also the guy that encouraged the russians to conduct espionage against the united states of america. >> i want to just finally ask you about this issue of the republican party's platform. trump's campaign manager paul manafort was pressed about this over the weekend and whether or not he had any influence over shaping the platform which ultimately saw softer language in terms of sending weapons to ukraine. he was very adamant. he had no influence and said no one in the trump campaign had any influence. some have said that's not quite accurate. what is your take, and do you take him at face value that the trump campaign didn't have any impact over the party's platform. >> let me be honest. i have no special knowledge

about the deliberations over the republican party platform. all i would say is this. for years now, it has been a position of most prominent republicans in the congress to advocate for lethal assistance to ukraine. ando obama administration has resisted that. and now that they've changed that, that's a major policy change with respect to the republican party and mr. trump. >> all right. just finally very quickly, does the clinton campaign, obviously secretary clinton has been criticized for some of her decision-making while she was secretary of state. donald trump has jumped on a number of different points, benghazi, for example. does she run the risk of using this against him and opening up those old wounds, if you will? >> you know, my own view as an american voter and national security expert is, let's debate the policies today. let's debate what we're going to do about the russians and then

the voters can decide, do they want a president that adopts a lot of views the kremlin is advocating or do they want a president that is going to stand up to the kremlin. that's the issue at the end of the day. not what happened several years ago. >> michael mcfaul, thank you for your insights. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. as we wait for hillary clinton to take the stage in omaha, questions about her private e-mail server continue to follow her on the campaign trail. find out why her latest claim is being flagged by fact checker. stay tuned for that. it's not a banner that goes on a wall. it's not something you do now and then. or when it's convenient. it's using state-of-the-art simulators to better prepare for any situation. it's giving offshore teams onshore support. and it's empowering anyone to stop a job if something doesn't seem right. at bp, safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better.

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clinton is just taking the stage. what you just heard was clinton's interview with fox news, where she claimed fbi director james comey backed up her public statements that she did not send anything marked classified at the time from her private e-mail server. "the washington post" fact checker gave that claim four pinocchios. comey said some e-mails were already classified when they were sent. let's bring in the panel once again. thanks to all of you for being here. let's start with this e-mail controversy. it doesn't go away. this weekend she got four pinocchios. why not just apologize, i made a mistake which she has said but she always does this sort of trying to turn the page to explain it away. >> it's been just this lingering scab that won't heal and that keeps on getting worse and she keeps putting her foot in it. it's just, it's inexplicable that at this point in the campaign she just keeps digging

the hole deeper. i think she will say it was a mistake and i wouldn't do it again, but then she has to say something to defend herself and that something just has this unfortunate tendency to go a shade too far. >> several pinocchios too far. >> this is the one issue i think that continues to feed voters' lack of trust in her which is her biggest issue. >> you know, with donald trump, i think people look at him, people who don't trust him look at him and think there's something mental going on. they don't know is he a little bit crazy. hillary clinton truly cannot open her mouth about an issue people don't trust her about and sound like she is calculating in her head there's no craziness going on, she knows exactly what she's doing, she cannot open her mouth without lying. and giving the impression to people she thinks she can outsmart them and she can't. >> she always sounds like a lawyer which is not a good thing for americans. talk about if donald trump hadn't gotten into this dispute with the khan family, how much attention would she have gotten

for her answers on fox news sunday? there would have been a lot of focus on whether she had told the truth, whether she was honest and trustworthy. instead, the big story coming out of the sunday shows was about that dispute. >> it's opportunity caused on both sides because the democrats have had an extremely successful convention which i'm not sure that hillary clinton was humanized enough to get everyone to vote for her, but it wasn't the crooked hillary, we didn't hear about e-mails. we heard about her lining chelsea's drawers at stanford because she's super mom. all of a sudden she reminds us, reminds voters of why they have concerns. >> we do know she did get a small bounce so far out of the conventions. it's not labor day yet, though. what do you make of this polling? >> i think she got a bounce out of the convention because it was a very well-run convention, unlike with donald trump. hillary clinton actually had

people outside her immediate family members and her powerful political associates who could testify she had done a nice thing for them, which was to her great credit. and i think come november, however bad republicans might think it's going to be, it's going to be worse. >> i'm being told by my producer that warren buffett just challenged trump to a dual release of their tax returns. what do you make of that? talk about this strategy of secretary clinton campaigning wi warren buffett? >> i can pretty much guarantee trump wouldn't take the challenge. >> wouldn't it be great. >> warren buffett, huge standing in the business community, traditionally republican. why is she in omaha, nebraska? because it's one of two states that distributes electoral votes so there's a chance for getting one electoral vote in this omaha district and that tells you that while some people think this will be a blowout, the clinton campaign is preparing for this to be close enough that one electoral vote from omaha, nebraska might make the

difference. >> can i say one thing about warren buffett's tax returns? even without him releasing them which i would be delighted to see, we know something about his tax rate. he's told us he pays at a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. why can't donald trump tell us if he's not going to release them what his effective tax rate is? there's a challenge. >> they are both under audit. we know donald trump will get plenty of questions about this during the debates and is making a big issue of these debates. two of them fall on the same night as nfl football games. he's saying i'm going to talk to the commissioner, try to get the dates changed. is that realistic? has that ever happened before? >> trump is making a controversy to further his point the system is rigged, the powerful people, not him, of course, are conspiring to prevent americans from seeing the debate. i think in the end the trump campaign and clinton campaign will end up negotiating the dates of the debates. who knows when those will be. in the end the campaigns will decide. >> they are not committed to the debates. the party has negotiated them but that doesn't mean you can force a candidate to be there.

i assume trump is starting a negotiating process where maybe we don't end up with two debates. maybe we will end up with one like we had in 1980. >> that would be too bad. >> ladies, great conversation. thank you so much for being here. lot of fun. that does it for "mtp daily." we'll be right back. ures with toothpaste or plain water. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture, and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day.

you know what they used to do with guys like that when they were in a place like this? they'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks. and you can tell them to go f--- themselves! i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? it's like incredible. when mexico sends its people, they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever...

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you're looking live at omaha north high school in omaha, nebraska. warren buffett is onstage

introducing hillary clinton. let's listen in. >> no member of the buffett family has gone to iraq or afghanistan. no member of the trump family has gone to iraq or afghanistan. we have both done extremely well during this period and our families haven't sacrificed anything, and donald trump and i haven't sacrificed anything, but how in the world can you stand up to a couple of parents who have lost a son and talk about sacrificing because you were building a bunch of buildings? when i heard that, my mind went back and this goes back before most of you were born but they went back to the mccarthy hearings. at the time of the mccarthy hearings, at the time of the mccarthy hearings with the army, joe welch had a young assistant of his