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solidify women where they are which is not in his favor. saying about this recording, this was locker room bander and a private conversation that took place many years ago. bill clinton said far worse to me on the golf course. not even close. i apologize if anyone was offended. that will do it for this hour. next we will pick up continuing coverage of hurricane matthew. welcome to our continuing breaking coverage of hurricane matthew. the sterm up the southeast coast after leaving severe damage across the caribbean. there are two confirmed deaths in florida.
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meanwhile, the civil protection agency confirming 283 deaths on the island nation. over a million people without power and in floater alone, thousands more. it's dipping down to a category three made late last night. high winds continuing to lash many parts of the east coast. president obama said they should not fool anyone into thinking conditions are calm. >> this is a dangerous hurricane and the potential for flooding and loss of life and property damage. pay attention to what your local officials are telling you. if they tell you to evacuate, you need to get out of there and move to higher ground. >> storm surge can move quickly. and people can think that they are out of the woods and suddenly get hit and not be in a
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position to which they and their families are safe. >> the storm continues to scrape florida's coast, georgia is preparing for the worst. >> there comes a point where we cannot jeopardize the lives of our first responders any further. at that point we will all just have to hunker down and wait for the hurricane to pass. >> this hour we will be covering the hurricane as well as news from politics. i want to go to bill for what is happening right now on the storm's path. >> we got a new update and for the first time in literally a week, we are no longer watching a major hurricane and we are not going to see a landfall in our country and that continues the drought going off years women had a lot of destruction on the coastline of northeast florida and we will be showing you the pictures throughout the evening here at msnbc.
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winds are at 110 miles per hour. as strong as you get for a category two storm. moving to the north and we will bring you over here and this is a brand-new path. the areas around savannah. if you are in the brunswick area or charleston to georgetown, you are staring at this saying this is going to be a close call. it's not a major hurricane, but even a category two with a wind of 90 to 110 miles per hour. that's what we saw during the day. the storms on the track northward by 2:00 a.m. at the closest point from savannah, georgia. we don't know if they will go through the western eyewall. if it does, you will have significant power outages and problems in the area. we will get the storm surging into the area and that will be bad in the bruniswick area. it will be worse this afternoon into this evening all the way through the coastline of georgia and through there into south
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carolina. if we had to pick a location with the best chance of getting landfall and maybe right in the area of charleston and the storm goes off the coastline of north carolina and saturday night, the outer banks is mostly okay, but heavy rain. i want to bring you to the other computer. the big issue is the potential for the storm surge. this happened and almost over with, but this is the area of greatest concern from hilton head to savannah down to brunswick. they could be close to ten feet of storm surge that will be life-threatening over six to 12 hours. >> thank you very much. while there is plenty of good news and not in the clear and for more we turn to reporters on the ground. in jacksonville as well as savannah, go ahead. what are you seeing? >> hey there and good afternoon. steady rain all afternoon and pounding the area in the downtown area. we have seen storm surge only
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about two or three feet. more serious to the east at jacksonville beach. as we have been seeing over the last few hours, a lot of storm surge and pounding the coastline over there as well as the saint august seen area. tens of thousands of people without power and the mayor of jacksonville had evacuated nearly half a million people in this city. thankfully they said since the storm tracked east, they tamped down expectations and were able to say they were expecting less wind and said they went as planned. we have been seeing steady rain and trees we see toppled at the debris. people are told to hunker down for the next few hours. the story today in the area from jacksonville beach is storm surge. we are seeing the heavy rain pounding the city. unlike anything the city has
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seen in a while. >> thank you. in georgia, go ahead. >> i can you that the rain just is increasing in intensity. just as you heard from florida, we have similar conditions here. steady rain and it comes in these bands and sideways. it's heavy at times and then it abates and it's heavy gain. this is the savannah river and part of what people worry about. when the storm is at high tigde all of this water will surge up and get the high tide and heavy rain and that makes for a perfect storm that will flood into the downtown area of savannah. he has always told the first responders to leave the area. they told people if they find themselves shelter and call 911,
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>> and two days ago i ordered an evacuation in coastal areas and other low-lying areas and yesterday i had evacuations because of the storm surge and we see exactly that right now. that's flooding in parts around the coastal areas and we are anxious for this thing to move on and we can get our public safety teams in effect and make sure that people are okay. >> how will that process work? jacksonville over the next 24 to 48 hours? >> well, just a matter of safety for them to get into those areas. the reason i ordered the
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evacuations with the wind speeds and the storm surge. and some folks decided not to listen to the evacuation order and that's behind this now. my biggest sees that we can't be clear appears to be leading out. we need to get in and make sure people are getting out. it's the most important thing and we can rebuild damage in homes as painful as that will be, but lives are number one. >> what day of the week do you think it will bring back normalcy to your community? >> i know residents that evacuated will be anxious to get back in. with public safety being the pop concern, we will pursue tomorrow with the safety issues and get people back in their home.
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the governor has been phenomenal. the president signed an order yesterday to make sure we have access to federal health. it has been a demonstration. we are in the storm. that's what we are going do. >> it makes sense. >> it has been a busy couple of days for you. i will turn and speak also by phone with saint augustine, florida. what you can tell us about this situation? >> these are people who chose not to evacuate.
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they are i hope hunkers down and they are in a relatively safe place. they have food and a place to sleep. there are a number of folks like that in our city. our advice to them is basically to hunker down and wait until it is safe to come outside. to take the next step to where they might be going. >> as a practical matter these are people in your view miscalculated? >> i wouldn't say miscalculated. we have many hotels in the city where people chose to stay and many people who chose to stay home. we swept the city with trucks making people aware of what the situation was.
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huge part of who we are. we want to make sure visitors are comfortable and we have a lot of work ahead of us and our primary concern is the safety of the people who are here and making sure it's safe for people to have a return. we have turned off the water system and we have a lot of work to do and understanding that will have a lot better idea. >> what are people drinking in the water is off? and people know what the checklist is. bottled water was flying out of the stores and if they have gas
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and they can boil water and if they chose to stay, they can do that. we will be there to help. and finish your thought and time for you. thanks for spending time with us. >> we will continue to have updates on the progress throughout this hour a& politic and if you the potential bombshell that dropped on donald trump's head. it is related to him and something he said in his own words. you want to hear it for yourself. a battle ground map with both preparing for the debate. all eyes on that sunday debate. donald trump said it's his last
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only 32 days left until e legz day and hillary clinton holding a decisive lead. first the toss ups. they are on nbc political units and has moved to toss up. georgia is no longer a toss up. it is leaning trump and virginia, pennsylvania and colorado are not on the map. they are all states that are likely orleaning in clinton's
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direction. two shy of 270. if you fill in the states that are likely orleaning in the red, that brings trump to about 190 that means he would have to sweep every other toss upstate to win. that's not a hospitable environment for the path. if he lost any of the state, clinton wins. there is no room for error for team trump as he takes the debate stage. that looks like it got a lot more perilous after the bombshell audio on trump. we will show you and play it for you straight ahead. blan
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bill clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course. not even close. i apologize if anyone was offended. >> this is horrific. wie cannot allow this man to become president. i will bring in our panel with former white house director. vice president from the "new york times." sarah, your thoughts. >> i don't know what to say beyond who knew furniture shopping was such a romantic gesture. there is no defending it. it is horrific. >> daniela. >> she is right. it's horrific and you department even play which is i think is the worst part. he talks about assaulting people which is okay because he's famous. it is not surprising given everything we know about donald trump. >> we will repeat the warnings
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from earlier, this language is not something everyone wants to hear at home. i am warping you that it's not something in the public domain will be sanitized. it is part of the issue in this race. we consider it legitimate news, but we want to warn viewers. i want to play a little more of that audio. >> i gotta use some tic-tacs in case i want to kiss her. i'm attracted to them like a magnet. when a star, you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> that's the last that we will play, but daniela, you were referencing that part as well. >> absolutely. when people talk about rape culture, this is a part of it. because he is famous, he can treat women's bodies like possessio possessions. for people on the fence of whether or not they want to support him for president, read
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the other things he said about women and other people. is this a person you want to sit in the oval office and be a role model forever your children and your family? it boggles my mind that people are undecided about this. >> i will ask you as part of the journalistic and political questions, does this do the things we just said by it criticized by a republican and analyst, do they reveal something else? about women or anyone else. it's just a total breech of the usual encasement of politics. even with donald trump we haven't earned anything like this in the rally or speech. would you want this guy in a room with your daughter or sending someone into the white
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house to work for president? >> i want to ask you. this is accurate that we haven't seen this audio about a candidate, but there are trump supporters and historians argue that there are other presidents, nixon and lbj come to mind who had recording devices in the white house who had very objectionable things on tape said about different groups of people and about women and about jews and about african-americans. >> sure. >> a range of horrors. i don't know how much politically that would help donald trump because lbj said a democrat said terrible things. i don't know who is defending that. what would you say to the argument and statement i said earlier? he said look, you take anyone's private locker room bander, you can find something objectionable. >> that may be true, but it doesn't make the fact that he said these things okay.
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of course timing is everything in politics. you are approaching the next debate. this is something a voter is going to ask him about and you have to address it on sunday night. the timing of this could not be worse for donald trump. the bigger issue here is donald trump said many things in the campaign that offended people. in that regard this is not new and i don't know that there is a wide group of voters that ultimately changes their views because of it. they suggested that. i do think that the challenge for that group of undecided voters and those people that he needs to move the hillary supporters and he needs to move off of her candidacy on to his, this becomes more of a window into the soul than any one offensive comment. i think it is just another problematic thing and he is now on defense again one more day
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that he needs to be talking about hillary clinton's e-mail problems or the clinton foundation challenges and where the world stands from a foreign policy perspective and her role in this. we are talking about something that is not befitting of a presidential campaign. or of anything. >> he has to change minds. he can't become president if he doesn't change minds. it is impossible that this will push him in the direction of winning more votes and not less. >> that's exactly right. his challenge may not move supporters off of him. i'm sure it won't, but he doesn't have enough supporters to win the presidency. he needs to do everything he can to move independents and people who are not decided to him. these comments are not going to help and i'm very curious to see how this will come into play
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during the debate on sunday. >> you mentioned that conservative reaction and potential supporters. a long time critic of trump with him over the red state conference and their dealings has a direct appeal with insighting the remarks that he never felt he asked for forgiveness on anything. he claims he never needed to ask for giveness for knowingly trying to sleep with a married woman. that's a part of this that can you get lost amid the objectionable language and the story line here. that's him seeming to brag or take a positive association from the story which is that he was pursuing this woman he viewed to be married. how would you approach that? >> evangelical camp is split. with folks like eric erickson who has been strong for most of
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the campaign. not all of it, but he is strong against trump because of the way he conducted himself. there are others that tell all of this believing that hillary clinton is so bad for america that even an imperfect donald trump means the potential for a supreme court and the conservative philosophy and they are willing to take that risk. both sides are dug in. it's going to be interesting to see if some of the evangelicals come off that. i don't think they will. what donald trump needed to do and needs to do after this assuming it's true is to come out and more forcefully apologize and say look, this is unbecoming of a president. you cannot talk about people like this. i think that would help him with a lot of people who understand
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that everyone has things in their past they are not proud of and things they said they are not proud of. he is basically apologizing for this, although i think it needs to be stronger. >> it may dove tail with what daniela is saying about the way that the culture deals with language about women and hostility towards women for being women. when barack obama was in jeremiah wright's church, days of demands and hoe had to give an entire speech about it. here you have a brief apology from donald trump and are these comments that merit a deeper reckoning from a candidate? thank you all for being with me. we will talk about the shut down
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. >> marco rubio speaking out. one of the reasons is having a potential to help save people who are stuck behind rising waters after the fact and that's the most immediate thing to make sure they have resources in florida and orlando area and they are beginning the process of what they need with the tarps and the generators and everything it will take to begin to respond to the individual
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charleston. it likes like savannah is at great risk. >> category four is very rare and it seems to be moving at its own pace. and it might be up the coast. >> it has been moving at 10 miles per hour and that's close to normal. this is not unusual. the good news and bad news when it's moving slowly with more time to prepare, it lingers longer. author for the storm surge and that's a big concern this time.
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>> thank you very much. we will turn now to jacob in jacksonville, florida. >> all day long, it has been raining consistently and raining enough that they are standing with the water like this one are popping up around the city. this by far is not the most dangerous thing around the storm. we saw the massive storm surge about 23 miles from here. and up and down the coast and up and down the middle, that's creating dangerous conditions for low-lying areas. as windy as it has been.
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and far away from the coast and they have to look for not only rain and wind, but the beach and the river. >> thank you very much. now we turn by phone to savannah looks like the place where the hurricanes can come closest and what is your view and how is it going? we had great results for people who left town. we had 75% participation and we feel good with the numbers and we are trying to make sure about the ones that are here understand we need to hunker down and get a grip and find the safest place with you can.
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we stopped all emergency calls because of the weather and we will wait until the storm passes between the times that are 6:00 in the morning. we have the surge based on like you were talking earlier. we are concerned because of that. that's on the earlier side and we are not sure about the surge. they moved them out of the lower areas and hopefully we will be able to take care of them tonight. >> you are advising them to hit hardest around 6:00 in the morning on saturday? >> we are looking at more of the 2:00 time.
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that's the same time our eyes are working in the same time period. the roughest will be from 2:00 to 4:00 and tropical stuff from 10:00 to 6:00. that's what we are an 'tis waiting. >> we have seen a lot of coordination from the local and state and federal and we saw marco rubio teaking and are you getting everything you need from the state and local authorities at this time? >> i have never seen a group of people cork from the emergency homeland security. every one worked to make it as easy as possible. it's something to be proud of if
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you are a sides. you have people in places that can do that job. it has been great. >> a lot of resolve. that's good to hear. thanks for joining us on a busy day. >> glad to be here sir. thank you for your time. >> we will continue to update throughout the evening and income up back to 2016 with interesting political developments. stay tuned. he has a sharp wit, a nng smile,
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we have been following this for a while. they publicly blamed russia for the election-related hackings that occurred here in the united states. they are confident russia is behind the hacks that include breeches from the democratic campaign committee. they said the steps and disclosures intended to interfere with the u.s. election process and we believe based on the scope and sensitivity of the efforts that only russia's senior most officials could have authorized the activities. they believe the system is essentially to decentralize them and suffer from disruptions in hacking that could affect the election in november. they came at about the same time that president obama stopped by his holding place in downtown chicago to cakaftan early vote.
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i had a problem with the mike. we had a guy oscillating my mike. i went there a little bit before and i said the mike is so great. unfortunately when i went to talk, they turned the mike up and down and you saw it. everybody in the room saw it. we had a real problem. >> he is still talking about the mike from the last debate. donald trump there last night and that is new sound in case it sounds like old sound suggesting it was sabotaged by microphone oscillation. just purr porting what he said. the practice may not be going to play. the story out today saying trump continues to push back against the notion of traditional preparation.
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trump resisted suggestions from advisers to practice exhaustively for the skds debate. he flat out refused to participate in mock sessions saying play acting was annoying. on the stakes for the trump campaign on sunday night are massive right now. there are republicans who are basically signaling they are looking at an off-ramp. the battleground map tilting towards clinton and so are the national and state polls and "the new york times" reported just this week that gop operatives telegraphing, quote, should mr. trump falter badly, republican congressional candidates may take it as a cue to flee openly from their nominee. let's bring back our panel, daniella fairman and nick confesso confessore. sarah, there are plenty of republicans who say, that's "the new york times" grabbing an anonymous quote here or there and trying to spin it into a bigger story. no offense, nick. you don't have to rebut that if you don't want that. and they would say, my point, about any newspaper that has a
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couple of quotes. is this a media narrative, or in your view as a republican in touch with a lot of people, is this a real problem for trump? >> i think it has a real potential to be a problem for trump. and look, the proof will be in the pudding. look, we'll certainly know how donald trump does after sunday night anwe'll see within a week to ten days after the second debate if republicans do, in fact, start running "i'm a check on hillary clinton," as if the presidential race is a foregone conclusion. but i think these conversations are happening. i don't think this is just the media narrative. it's a tricky situation for republicans. because, you know, by saying or telegraphing this, you think that the republican candidate isn't going to win, it can have a dampening effect on turnout, it can have a lot of factors that can be negative on one's candidacy. >> it's demoralizing. >> yeah, it can be -- it's not just an easy slam dunk, it can cause more damage than just, you know, running the "i'm a check
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and balance on the democratic president." >> no, it's a message that admits a problem, nick, put aside your msn credentials, you mainstream media establishment reporter, there's someone else that might agree with this narrative. and we'll put up on the screen in the four-way race, just since september. so just looking at the arc here, as we're now in the home stretch of october, hillary clinton, overall, up four. donald trump, up one in what he had before. and gary johnson losing seven. so in whatever sort of mood there is, the mood is third party candidates waffling. that's not necessarily good, if hillary seems to be picking up some of what they had. >> look, two things are happening. one is the block of voters who are considering johnson and stein, right, are now moving in some large degree towards hillary clinton, and not trump. so, yeah, it's typical to see third party candidates waver and
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lose steam at the very end. it is happening, it is happening to hillary clinton's benefit. second of all, you can see in polling that a lot of senate republicans are having trouble separating from donald trump. not all of them, not bob portman, you know, but most of them are finding that he drags them down. that as he suffers, trump suffers, the senate candidate suffers, and we even had a house strategist in that story, saying that even house candidates are suffering. so the top of the ticket does matter. it can drag the whole thing down. >> i think that goes to the question if donald trump is any good at outreach. he has had a real sort of proud attitude about any aspects of the general election, when we're accustomed to nominees trying to do bridge building. i'm a little reminded of when jay-z said either love me or leave me alone. i think that's how a lot of people feel. but you can't build a 50% coalition with the feeling that people should either be in your corner or go away.
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and he has to have that kind of scorn for people who don't want to get behind him. >> absolutely. for the past year and a half, donald trump has been saying, i'm the best, i am tremendous, i have the best words and the best brain. and nobody is going to tell me how to win a general election. and what worked in the primary is obviously going to work now. so i'm not surprised that "the new york times" said he's not doing debate prep. and i wouldn't be surprised if he does poorly again on sunday, that he still rebuffs and says, you know, a mike was broken, or something else happened, and not listen to the people around him. >> daniella, it was not broken, fact check! it was not broken, the mike was oscillating. that's all he said. be fair. >> sorry, it was oscillating. it was oscillating, my bad. i don't have the best words. >> i mean, sunday night is a big night for him and donald trump needs to do two three things, regardless of whether he's prepping or not. he needs to not miss opportunities. he needs to be talking about hillary clinton want hillary clinton's e-mail scandal, about the way the clinton foundation has conducted its affairs, and
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about her performance on the world stage. he missed opportunities in that first debate. he cannot do that again. second, he needs to have strong answers on policy questions. people understand he is not a policy wonk, and to some degree, they like that about him. but he's got to have a strong, solid answers. and third, how does he interact with these voters? the human dynamic, i think, is going to be a big part of the discussion on monday, for both of these candidates. and he's going to have to do well in that regard. >> because you're eye to eye with real people. nick? >> look, prep is not just about having facts and figures at your fingertips in a debate. it's not being prepared for lines of attack and how to avoid walking into traps, how to control the tempo of the debate and talking about things you want to talk about. what happened to him last week was at almost every stage for the last two-thirds of the debate or more, he was talking about things that hillary clinton wanted to talk about. >> exactly. >> it was conducted on her
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internship terms. if you don't prep, it will happen to him again and she will win the next debate. >> and that's what makes a town hall a little trickier. because these are voters you're talking to. you can't talk down to them, you can't interrupt them. if you don't like their question, you really can't blow them off. these are the people you're trying to convince to vote for you. >> that raises the final question, daniella, do you think he will interrupt any voters to say "wrong"? >> i wouldn't be surprised if it happened. i would like to think that he would not do that, that he would understand that that would be really, really bad to tell a voter that their question or their premise is wrong. >> well, we will find out. that's why we will be watching. sarah, daniella, nick, thanks for joining ours panel here. i'm ari melber. we'll have more on 2016 and on hurricane matthew, so keep it locked right here on msnbc.
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hurricane matthew watch continues. friends, the storm, has for now, stayed far enough offshore to spare central florida, the direct hit many had feared. it is not over yet. the city of jacksonville, areas of georgia and north carolina are still on high alert and we'll be tracking that throughout the show. meanwhile, just 48 hours before the second presidential debate,
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