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what to make of the political position they're in right now. but this hasn't brought them to a place they would have been. a loss last night would have. >> you have a president calling it heartless and mean. >> there are some expletives. >> thank you to all my panelists. >> that does it for this hour, i'm nicole wallace. "mtt daily" starts right now. >> are you upset about sport again? >> but alas, hey, it's more fun to show passion about that, than talking for a living. >> hug it out? fair enough. it is wednesday, it's the longest day of the year and democrats are isn'tly feeling it for sure. >> tonight the rules of engagement. >> a special thanks to the president of the united states of america. >> what happens when the base of both parties are fired up? >> we find common ground to move forward. plus the blame game begins.
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>> ossoff with nancy pelosi. >> democratic leader nancy pelosi takes heat for the loss in georgia. >> we clearly need to have the right method and the right messengers. >> can democrats win in 2018 with the republican's favorite spoil the ill at the hem. pulling back the curtain on the republican health care bill. i'll talk to senators from both sides of the aisle, including one republican, who might actually know what's in the bill. this is mtb daily. a -- mtp daily and it starts right now. and good evening, i'm chuck todd in washington. welcome to "mtp daily" one political party is banking in the rays of victory the other is feeling burned. the democrats feel the notch of the needed sixth district yesterday. republican karen handel topped
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john ossoff by four points and last this race by three points. i kept warning you, don't be shocked if that one slips under the radar. georgia is the race that really stings with the democrats. with millions of dollars to spend. it could not be a candidate in a highly educated district where donald trump stumbled in december. it wasn't trump by a boogie man that looms large in this race. here's what we know after last night. first, republicans know how to defend their turf. democratsed a their sights set on this seat for months, the national apparatus, dug in, warned. got the base engaged through everything they had in ossoff. they found something that stuck, they kept sticking. they tried kathy griffin, osama bin ladin and eventually nancy pelosi. here's something we know for sure after last night. it is pelosi that remains a big drag for democrats at the polls in certain districts, she had a much bigger presence in this
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race than president trump was and you can argue with the republican's most potent attack. 98% name i.d. when this race started for nancy pelosi. look at this maimer from the georgia six sent out by a republican group. the pelosi strategy is nothing new, of course. it's been happening every cycle since 2010. take a look. >> chris carney is voting with nancy pelosi over 90% of the time. >> we can't send barack obama and nancy pelosi a rubber stamp. >> simpson voted with nancy pelosi to bail out wall street. >> she'll vote if lock step with pelosi. >> ossoff will vote with nancy pelosi for more spending, bigger government and a weaker military. >> yes, we know there is a slipped in ad there, where even a republican primary campaign somehow used nancy pelosi as an attack vehicle and it was somewhat effective. look, if you are republicans today, you are thinking if the playbook ain't broke, don't fix it. for the democrats, they got to start thinking how hard it will be to sell voters on a changed
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environment, in a change election, if the answer to the question of okay, who is democrats going to put in as speaker of the house if is answer is still nancy pelosi, democrats have very little to show for their anti-trump resistance and it will only likely embolden republicans on the hill, particularly with health care. president trump has yet to be a tangible drag on the polls. he may not look good and be an asset per se, but it's too early to call him a liability. you can make an argument the grievance issues, this complaint that he is under assault fires up parts of his base. the bottom line georgia wasn't a must-win for democrats to be looked at this from the prism of the entire landscape. but in this environment, it was a must-win t. final election we know of so far this season. democrats found themselves out match and out strateat guised s by the gop. any coach will still you, those
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don't show up in the standings. joining me now is the chair of the national committee. rana mcdaniel. thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me, chuck. >> let me start about this. i know you guys feel goods about winning. you are 4 and o on which you put in there. on the congressional 4 and o. but the democrats will argue, you had to spend a lot of money, a lot of resources to make sure you won all of those. how cautiously nervous are you about 2018 going forward, even though you are winning, you had to basically drag candidates over the finish line? >> i feel really good about the four specials and a strategy that we've employed. listen, these are special elections. it is harder to turn out your base in these elections. you got to keep them interested. you got to make sure they know about the elections. you have to spends more money. in georgia six, you saw the democrats throw from 23 million for john ossoff, from california
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from new york. they were bringing everyone they could. they brought in hollywood. they threw everything at this race and we were able to hold firm. a win is a win is a win and we won four in a row. i think it's a message to our voters and across the country that people want to see things get done in washington. we're running on jobs, we're running on wages. we need to but a vision forward. >> what do you take away from the fact it's been interesting to watch, montana and georgia win, there was a little of a panic button pushed by republican leaders. you know, the party kicked in. voters got engaged and you won. in the kansas and south carolina specials, what's been fascinating about those is neither party made a large effort in it and so with less attention, democrats are more fired up than republicans in those districts. you still won them. what does that tell you? are you constantly engaged enough in your base if ways that you need to be? >> yeah,er with managing every
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election. so i think it is a tribute to the rnc data program. we were looking at our voters and we knew our likely university. we knew how engaged they were. we did throw some money into south carolina, because a lot of them didn't know about the election. they weren't paying attention. we wanted to make sure we turned them out. we are putting the resources in to win the race. i think that's a good use of resources. all you want in the end is a win. i'm not running up the margins. we could do that in all these races, that wouldn't be a great use of the your resources, it does show the data game and how strong it is, we knew last night in our data models, karen handel would win, we were predicting a 250,000 voter turnout. we were pretty much right at the top of that. when have you your data correct and you put a ground game in to turn them out, you are going to win elections. that's what the rnc has been doing successfully. >> i know you have been around politics a long time. conventional wisdom is the party
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in power, going into a mid-term election, they want to localize the race. you hear that a lot. oh, no, no, no, these will be individual races. it's the party out of power that wants to make it a national race. but i feel as if the biggest difference between georgia, montana and kansas south carolina is the more nationalized the race got the better it was for your base. does this mean you are going to be comfortable running sort of a more nationalized campaign in the mid-terms, hey, this is about the trump presidency, this is about the republican agenda? are you comfortable having this be a sort of national referendum on the trump presidency in 2018th? >> president trump energizes our base. he gets republicans out. they are 100% with him. they are following his agenda. they want to see congress help the president accomplish his agenda we are peel and replace of obamacare with tax reform. we saw that message in november. now we see that message in these four special elections and bringing the president into these races has only energized
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our base more. so i think that's a good strategy. >> so you would advise candidates, don't run away from the president, even few think he's unpopular in districts, run with them? >> i think you should bring the president in. i do. he's energized our base in all of these specials and our base notices if you walk away. so we want to support the leader of our party and people want to see things get done. i mean, this obstruct/resist message the democrats are running on is not working. it's not a 56. republicans are talking about jobs, wages, health care reform. we got to fix our naming health care system. >> that's a good vicious circle. i remember when democrats were in power them saying hey, this obstruction process of republicans aren't working, eventually, republicans won elections that way. you could make a political argument that obstruction over time can work, no? >> i'm not seeing it work for the democrats right now, obstruction, resist, not working with the president on anything,
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you saw people pulling out of ohio and we're seeing obamacare stail fail state by state. democrats are sitting on their hands. i don't know how that will work with the american people going forward when they don't work with republicans on anything. >> rnc chair, thank you for your first appearance here. hopefully not the last. thanks, for coming on. >> not last. great see. >> you appreciate you being on. as we said, republicans made house democratic leader nancy pelosi a big part of yesterday's race in georgia. i asked her about the prospect, that very prospect of that happening when she appeared on "meet the press" a couple of months ago. take a listen. are you at all concerned you could play an outsized role, if you are more unpopular in a specific district, you could contribute to the loss of a democrat? >> well, when republicans put forth these ads that show the bankruptcy of their own initiatives, they should be, voters in their district want to know what they are going to do for them. but since you brought it up and
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i'm glad you did, i think it's really important for the voters in those districts to know who the candidates will be voting with. >> and joining me now is the democrat charged with running the democratic house campaign to try to win back the majority, new mexico congressman benefit hunter-reay luhan. thanks for coming to the show. >> thanks, for having me, chuck. >> is there anyway to spin a loss? i know you have come close in a bunch of places, at the end of the day, bill par cells a former coach says you are what your record says you are, you are o and 5? >> a win is a win, a loss is a loss. we wanted to win and win last night and these specials. make no mistake, when you look at the gains that have been made from the performance in all of these districts from last november to today, there have been reductions by double digits in all of these races and by the very nature that we're talking about deeply how red republican
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districts across the country, that my republican colleagues had to spends over $23 million defending should concern them. and so because of that, and the polling that we have, that shows how competitive districts are across america, the 71 districts that are more competitive than georgia six alone, it gives me kind of optimism as well. so we will be leaning in. it's clear to say the house is in play in 2018. >> the state of my football metaphor. this was short of a scrimmage, but a real time scrimmage. you got to find out. you tested some messaging. they tested some messaging. each party find out what works, what doesn't work. there's an old play in the playbook on the republican side that seemed to work here again. and that was tying john ossoff to nancy pelosi. this has been used in the 10, '12, '14, and now in '17. i've asked leader pelosi about this before. she says, oh, it's a worn out
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playbook. well, it's a worn out play that works. how much of a problem is this for your members and your future potential members? >> look. all of these special elections were really tough elections and anyone that suggests that they know why we weren't successful in these races does not make or is not making decisions based on data as well. we will be get tack data soon. look, john ossoff's message resonated with independents and republicans, which is why he came so close. in south carolina, there was a different approach to turn out african-american vote erms. so i would say that going forward by the sheer nature of how these margin versus reduced gives us a lot of optimism going forward. >> i understand that. let's say you are dealing with a change electorate, a skeptical republican voter here in georgia six and they're looking for new and they're looking for clang and john ossoff, oh, okay, he seems change. then they realize, oh, if he wins, there's going to be nancy pelosi, she'll be speaker. don't you understand, the voter
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said, i already said no to that change. i voted that out. i want something new. i want something different. does nancy pelosi send that message for the democrats in 2018? >> well, look, republicans starting attacking john ossoff with leader pelosi early on. what we saw with the early vote, early in-person voting and with vote by mail, our modeling shows john ossoff was winning 18th% of those republicans. something happened in this last week as well. so we're going to try to understand what happened. but clearly john was winning those moderates and moderate republicans democrats early. so we understand what was resonating. what was not, make sure we are able to repeat what works. >> was john ossoff anti-trump enough or did he play too safe? >> look, i think john ossoff had a message talking about jobs and the economy down in metro atlanta that clearly resonated with a lot of voters. he was clear that he would stand up to president trump. he would work to always put the
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people in georgia first. he talked about a ro bust economic message. i think that's where democrats need to be. >> that didn't win. so i ask you, was it trump? should he have done more health care, less health care? do have you any idea what you think came up short here? >> we needed to get more votes, that's where we ultimately were. when you look at the district that is predominantly registration advantage, chuck, we were able to reach out to all the democrats we could, all the independents, we saw we needed to find a way to resonate with more republicans and afternoon up voter participation. there were more people that voted in this election than in mid-terms. we saw presidential performance in this district. we need to go in, see what worked, see what didn't work. we will see president trump paint and be a part of that national narrative. we know his numbers are in the mid-30s, if not mid-40s depending on who is measuring. >> that does not bode well for
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the party that holds the white house in the mid-term. no president under 50% has won seats on average they lose 28. >> the man in charge of the d triple c for the cycle. it's only beginning. that's for sure. it's the end of the beginning not the end of the beginning for sure. what does all this mean? you we heard a lot of spin on 2018. well, we'll try to sift through it. ahead, i'm hoping for a sneak peek at the secret senate health care bill from one of the few people who may know what's in it. >> that guest is coming up in a minute.
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states and of members of the finance committee where the premiums have gone up and he said in missouri that premium versus gone up on obamacare 145%. the implication is where have they been and he singled out only states for members on the committee, essentially asking, where has senator mccaskill been? where have all these senators been in trying to fix obamacare in the last three, four years. how would you have answered him if you have been on the floor when he said this? >> i would have said i have been right here trying to get fixes for obamacare. i have asked different times different colleagues for various things to strengthen the individual marketplace. keep in mind thatting in is so misleading because only .5% of missouriens are buying insurance on the exchange without subsidies, so that is a very misleading figure in terms of premium increases. we wanted to fix problems, but nobody on the other side wanted
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to fix the problem because they were too interested in using the health care bill as a political 2 x 4. nay weren't interested in fixing it. they wanted to when elections with it. now here we are. i wish we could all quit worrying about elections and work together to fix the system we have. what they're proposing is not going to help missouriens. it just isn't. >> look, are you pretty blunt on this stuff when it comes to sort of the how much politics in play in this. do you have the room in your base? or the base of your party with the leadership of the party, if you said, chuck schumer, i'm going to go work with orrin hatch. i know you guys don't want me working on this bill. but he invited many tow help him. would you do that or do you want all the democrats in there doing it as well? i mean, that's what it feels like here, that both sides are afraid of bucking leader slpd and their base and actually trying to work with the other side. >> listen, i'm not afraid of bucking he'dership.
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i voted for harry reid publicly. what i'm most interested in is fixing this health care system for missouriens and we're not going to do it bypassing a big tax cut for wealthy people and cutting medicaid by $840 billion. that's what they're proposing to do. they have not invited us to participate. but if they did, i'd say, let's start with the premise that the wealthy people in this country don't need another tax cut. let's start with the premise that cutting medicaid, which really hurts royal nursing homes and rural hospitals and frankly 64% of the people in nursing homes are using medicaid right now. so let's focus on fixing what we have. >> that is showing up the individual markets, so that the premiums are more competitive for those who don't qualify for subsidies. >> is it possible for government to control the premium issue or not? do you think this is something that can be done whether it's under the obamacare model or
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under the senate republican plan? >> i think the more options we have, particularly of -- i put in a be ill that would give people in my state the option of buying insurance where we buy insurance. if there is a bare county in missouri, why can't they buy the same insurance that my staff and others in my office get to buy through a national plan that is based here in washington? there's options we can give people. >> it sounds like a public option. so you think there should be a public option that wasn't included in the original obamacare? >> how much of an option is the same as we get. i kind of dare my colleagues to vote against giving people in missouri the same opportunity to buy what members of congress can buy. there are subsidies like members of congress used their employer subsidy. >> that makes sense, common sense to me. i'm hoping eventually i will get a vote on that and i think a lot of people will be afraid to vote no. >> i will give you something that senator hatch said on the
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floor, he was making the case that they don't need any more hearings on health care because he says the following. the truth of the matter is this, senate committees, including the finance committee have had literally dozens of hearing wherein the failings of obamacare and the instruction of the law and its implementation have been thoroughly examined. he says committees have held countless oversight inquiries into these matters of the years. then he says the very definition of well covered territory. >> he knows better. >> very fast then we got to run. >> i love orrin hatch. he's my friend. he knows better. this is not the way we legislate. we don't do it with a group of guys in the back room. we don't find out by lobbyists on k street. that's the only way we give information,. this is not the way we legislate in the united states senator. orrin hatch knows that. >> i got to go to an fbi presser right now in flint, michigan. >> might have been able to do had we done this an hour or two ago. so before i start, though, i
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just want to say that you all are aware of the incident we had out here today where leiutenant jeff neville was stabbed and before we get to any details of the investigation and what happened here today, i would like to turn this over to chief chris miller of the bishop international airport public safety department to give you information on what's most important and that's the current health condition of leiutenant neville. chief. >> good evening, everyone. leiutenant neville is in satisfactory condition. you all we heard what happened to him. he is doing fine. he is residing at a local hospital right now. he's resting comfortably. and we just would like to thank everybody that came out to support us here in this trying time. so, and that's all i have.
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>> and we'll introduce others of the partners here today. as you can imagine, this has been a great joint local state and federal operation since early this morning and we couldn't have done it without all the partners here and we'll give them each an opportunity to introduce themselves, but i will just go into the facts of what we have been investigating today. i will tell you that we are investigating this incident today that happened at about 9:45 this morning as an act of terrorism. we have just filed a complaint charging an individual by the name of amore fatui. he's a 50-year-old resident of canada who legally entered the united states in lake champlain in new york june 16th and made his way to flint and today arrived at the flint international airport. obviously, i know a lot more about this.
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we are sort of at zero hour of this investigation right now. since it is a pending investigation, i'm not going to go into great detail as to what we do know. we know he entered the airport. he spent a little time on the first level. then he went upstairs, spent some time in the restaurant up there. then he came out. he was carrying baggage. he went into a restroom. he spent a little time in the restroom, dropped both bags and came out, pulled out a knife yelled allow akbar and stabbed leiutenant neville in the neck as was mentioned by the chief. she in stable condition and is expected to fully recover. that's the most blessed thing i think we can say about this today. it's a good outcome. we had some incredible acts of heroism up there today and in questions key can perhaps talk about the efforts to take mr. fatui into custody t. complaint
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that's been filed is chargeing a violation of 18th u.s. code 37 a-1 which basically is violence at an international airport and just to give a ill will more background that is when someone unlawfully uses an act of violence at an international airport that could have or did cause serious injury, which we had in this instance. there is a 20-year penalty with that. this is very, very early in the investigation and as we progress and take this matter to indictment, other charges could be pending later on. as i mentioned, it's an ongoing investigation. there is joint operations going on in canada as we speak. we want to thank our canadian partners helping us further investigate this attack. and with that, i would like to defer to some of my partners here to make previous statements
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as well. >> the name is amore amo amor ftauhi. it's approximately a 50-year-old canadian. pardon me. he entered the country on june 16th. as i mentioned. it's a pending investigation. we know he came to the airport this morning we're trying to develop further information as to his time line, where he went after he entered the united states in lake sham plain, new york. we'll take questions the end i will describe the weapon. >> just to let everyone know, we will do a question and answer session at the end, ten minutes worth. first we will have our local state and federal partners here with us.
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>> special leiutenant david kaiser, with michigan state. first and foremost, michigan state police would like to extend their thoughts and prayers to leiutenant neville and his family during this very difficult time. the michigan state police supplied many resources here today to work with our local, state and federal partners. some included officers, detectives, bomb sniffing k-9s and our michigan state police crime lab. they were all involved in this investigation and worked well with the partners in this. i'd also like to mention governor rick snyder has been in contact with the michigan state headquarters today inquiring of the status of the injured officer as well as the status of this investigation and the michigan state place i police is very appreciative of this contact. thank you. >> good evening, everyone, my name is timoney johnson police
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chief. i just want to thank everybody for your concerns. we have our jurisdiction police here trying to get to the bottom of this and we have the mayor of flint that's here also. she's going to come up and make some comments. thank you for your concerns. we appreciate everybody coming out to be concerned about what happened here. it's bishop international airport. a tragedy, but thank god the officer is alive. he is doing well now. he is out of critical condition. so, you know, he's recovering right now. thank you for your concern. >> all right. you have been listening to initial reaction and initial investigation on what happened there in flint. obviously as we get more on this investigation, we will pass it along. i now want to get back to what we had scheduled here with the reveal of the senate republican health care bill set for tomorrow morning. i want to bring in a senator who
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may know more about this bill than anybody else right now. he's one of the 13 lawmakers involved if drafting legislation, he's had a career in medicine for many years. so i wouldn't surprise if he was the guy in leadership, senatorer barasso. >> thank you, it's great to be with you. >> well, let's talk about some specifics here. there has been a lot reported about what's in it. what's not in it. so help me out. let's start with what can you tell us that's in it as far as it's been reported? supposedly he's going to repeal the individual mandate around the employer man state. one thing we don't really know is the issue of medicaid expansion. one report indicates the entire thing will be phased out by 2023. another report indicates that it may go longer to 2026. what can you tell us about medicaid expansion? is it totally going away? is it a phase out? what can you say? >> well, what i can say is we have to act urgently.
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you may a have seen today the anthem insurance company has pulled out completely today from wisconsin and from indiana on the exchanges. so there is an urgency that we do something and, yes, the hated individual mandate where the government steps in and says you have to buy a government-approved product. that's going away. with regard to medicaid, i am a doctor. i practiced medicine for 25 years in wyoming and was in the wyoming state senate where we dealt a lot with medicaid. i always felt if the states could have more authority, we could use the money much better than one size fits all from pawing u washington. with regard to the expansion, what is planned is a more gradual landing for the states that expanded. they can still stay expanded, but they're just not going to get all of this additional medicaid bonus money that president obama included in the medicaid, in the obamacare law which encouraged many of them to expand. when it expanded, they got 100%
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on the dollar. but medicaid was set up as a match between states and the federal government and we're just returning to that. >> you're getting rid of that funding, the incentive to expand. >> the bonus. >> i want to go back to that. you say there is an urgency. part of the reason anthem, themselves, put out a press release. they said one of the reasons and the bigger reason why they dropped out of wisconsin was due to a shrinking and deteriorating individual market as well as continual changes in federal operation, rules and guidance including cost sharing reduction subsidies and the restoration of fully insured coverage. bottom line, they got out because hhs under the trump administration will not guarantee basically those extra risk dollars that the obama administration was guaranteeing insurance companies and it is that. >> of course were illegal. >> so you don't want -- well
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first of all that made it way, there have been court, it is fought yet illegal. we don't know the answer to that question. it hasn't made it wait to the supreme court. let me ask you that specific question. why not allow that so that you don't have the panic moment? it gives you more time to pass this bill properly, maybe with committee hearings and mark-ups and things like that? >> well, as you know, president trump has continued making those payments every month, but the insurance like anthem before the election, before we knew who was going to be elected president said they were thinking of pulling out by 2018, they saw a death spiral happening and across the country. companies have been pulling out to the point we have over half the people have one or two choices we have 40 counties where there are no choices. even if if you have obamacare and no subsidy, nobody is selling on the individual market. >> there is one of the reasons that you acknowledge that one of
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the reasons, though, is hhs is accelerating this process? >> in the state of maryland, they said rates were going up over 50%. it was rated to the uncertainty. they said of the 50% requested increase up to half of that, they said, was related to uncertainty. well the other half of it over 25% of the increase, an increase of 25% is due to the death spiral of the obamacare market as more and more people especially get rid of the original mandate. people act as free sids and decide they're fought going to buy a government mandated product. >> all right. so 50%, though, you acknowledge has to do with that created uncertainty. let me ask you this, senator orrin hatch, who is the senator pro temme, the post-senior republican. he's making a case today on the senate floor that you don't need hearings because you held obamacare hearings in the past s. that really the defense of no hearings and no markups on this bill that because you had hearings on another piece of
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legislation, passed by another congress, that that applies to this bill? >> there is going to be a huge, a big markup on this, the whole process of the voter owe glow after the bill passed? >> no, on the floor of the senate. there may be 50 to 100 amendments offered. this is an amendment process before we vote yes or no on the entire bill. let's face it, dra itself said from the beginning they weren't interested in working with us on the changes. i we heard that, president obama instead to the democrats all the way through, forcefully defend and be proud of obamacare. they're wearing blinders. they were offering plank checks. the american people deserve better. i hear about it every weekend at home in wyoming. >> are you comfortable defending this process? are you comfortable defending this process, senator? it's been and the voter-ama you are talking about, it's possible all those amendments all get replaced when you vote on the
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last bill at the end? >> well, there's going to be votes. people will be able to watch it on c-span, every member will be allowed to offer amendment amendments. price versus doubled in the last four years the choice versus gone down. people are very concerned all across the country that they've lost insurance they have, they lost the doctor they liked. all of the promises, so many under the obamacare plan have failed and the democrat's plan is single payer health care, they've just passed the california state senate has and the 23is cal note $400 billion the more than twice the cost of the entire general fwund for un for the date of california. >> that's the democratic part plan? >> that's the democratic senate in the state of california. now we have a majority of democrats in the house of representatives. >> viet. >> who have co-sponsored similar legislation in the u.s. congress. that's what the democrats are offering. >> okay. the last i checked i thought it was obamacare. >> the, well, i'm seeing, you
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said working on both sides of the aisle, which is what senator mccaskill talked about. i'm willing to do that, their asproech a single payer health care plan. >> i will leave it there. we'll be watching next week. and we'll search to see if these other bills exist on that front, thank you, sir. >> thanks. >> and we're going to sneak in a quick break, come back with the georgia six.
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so let's take a big pick look at the special elections this spring. there have been four democratic losses, what lessons can we glean from all of these race, the starter democrats should see the tiny glimpse of a silver lining. it's an argument that the man who is mr. house race for political dave wasserman, welcome, sir. >> thanks so much. >> let's make the reason why, where is our little thing here, make sure everything is working. the reason you made the case, democrats are o for 4 but they have reason for hope. here's what it is, house republicans won it by 21 points, republicans won it by 2347 a special. montana at large 16, 21, they win the house race by six t. two last night georgia 24 on election day one and of course four last night. south carolina five. there is a pattern here. democrats are over performing. yeah, that's nice, but, but why
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is that a silver line something. >> yeah, hand em's win is not necessarily a disaster for democrats. if you take the average for these races democrats are over performing what a generic candidate in a neutral year would get by an average of 8 points. if you apply that to the entire house, then 80 republican seats would be in play. a lot of finger point. ing about that georgia six. when you add up the results, will you see what happened in south carolina, 18th% of eligible voters showed up compared to 66% in georgia. it turns out you ends up wake up the other side's base up. >> in some rates, democrats overperformed came up short. so what is our strategy? do they want to not tell republicans when the election is or do they want to not quite fire at their base so much? >> look everyone thought ossoff could win. no one thought rg parnell would come this close in south carolina. it's because the race flew under the radar t. good news for democrats going forward is that
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turnout in 2018 is not going to be as high as it was in georgia. so that enthusiasm gap could be wider and benefit democrats. >> that i don't quite believe. i think we will head up to a quick turnout. you said if the democrats can do this, 8 points better, like they've done before, we'll put as many as 80 seats in play. we know there is a lot of caveats there. walk me through the big things, under that scenario, where are the big targets. give me the states here. >> california is on seven of the 23 districts that republicans hold in one. so seven there. you go toing the, three more in texas. >> okay. >> florida, four more in florida. then you get to the northeast. >> okay. you got between long island and upstate new york, five races there, you got two in new jersey. >> all right. >> three in the philadelphia suburbs, you move to virginia where you got two more. >> okay. >> you got two more in the chicago suburbs, two more in the detroit suburbs. >> so that's where you see. so what you are saying is in
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2018, these are about, we're up to about 25, 30 districts here. detroit, chicago, dallas, houston, the border, miami, orlando, orange county, this is, we're going to see, those are the major markets, we will see a lot of advertising. >> absolutely. it's not just white color educated districts, democrats have proven in these special elections, even though they're not winning them, they're overperforming just about everywhere. that's what republicans have to be concerned about in all corners of the country. >> right now it looks like we have an l-shape of the country. i'm sure there are sporadic ones there. >> we'll get there as well mr. wasserman. thank you as always, only beginning. what it means for 2018 in the lid.
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stephanie you have to defend the loss. we we heard a lot of the spin, a win is a win, a sloss a loss. how many buts do have you in there? >> none. are you right, a win is a win, a loss is a loss. but we just we heard from the political report that this is not a district that democrats should even be competitive in. yet, we were competitive in and forced republicans to spend tens of millions of dollars. the outside money that came in in the last weeks of this campaign were two-to-one for hands el against ossoff. so look i have been through these cycles several times, including when we took over in 2006. in 2005, we weren't winning special elections, but we saw the same size we saw now. that's the jenngeneric ballot. democrats are way up in the republican districts, we've invooes creased our margins by double digits. there is enthusiasm.
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you know, we have a lot of work to do, absolutely, including understanding it's not just about being against something. you have to be for something. you have to be the plausible alternative. so we have to lay that out. we've got time to do that. >> you know, michael the thing that surprised me the most is not that it was competitive, it was just that look, trump is sitting in the mid-30s, but his base feels so attached to him they felt compelled to get out. >> that mattered too. >> it did. i think what people are overestimating, underestimateing, this wasn't so much about trump. democrats made it about trump. >> did they? that's actually up for debate. >> the bottom line in 2010, we've declared to the country 5 fire pelosi. in 2016, '17 and now '18 going into '17 e 18th, we're going to say to the country, there is no need to rehire her. >> that will be the seminal argument. you saw it begin to take shape in this election.
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i've said for sometime, even on this show, if democrats going into next year make it about trump, they will have eight harder sell than they think t. elections are showing that. >> it hopes to have who can vot himself in the district. that may help too. >> it's very early days. i got back from georgia this morning. you're right that i think democrats got a hard reality check to their notion that's been a huge backlash against trump. there's not by any recession this terms of actual voting numbers from the level of support that trump showed in november. that being said was a lower vote this a lot of these kinds of districts. he underperformed the local representative, tom price in this case. it's really early. if trends continue sand we don' know. it's a year and a half. there's a lot of time between now and 2018. i was talking to a lot of republican voters in that georgia district and what a lot of them were saying was not rah,
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rah trump, screw liberals. i'm still giving him chance but i want to see this and this happen. >> before i get you to talk the pelosi question here. one member of congress from texas, here is what he had to say. >> as long as nancy pelosi is the leader of the democratic party, it's going to be very difficult to win the house seats that we need to win in 2018 to take the majority back. >> stephanhe said we need a gen new message. a bigger tent, not a smaller one. focus on the future. there's a lot of hand wringing about this. does she symbol too much over the past? >> we do need plan for the
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future. elections are about the future. we know what the republican play book is. mike you just laid it out. >> it's worked so far. >> it's worked in this election. we haven't really, we don't really know the trump hangover on these candidates yet. the difference in the special election versus the election in november of 2018 is that you have incumbent republicans all over this country who have been this lock step with trump and went to the rose garden to celebrate a health care bill that he turned around and called mean. there's a different type of race that democrats are going to run in the fall of 2018. th we know what republicans are going to run on. now we have time. let's stop debating the leader of the party and start focusing on these races. >> the lead eer of the party do
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matter because they will help send a national message. you put your finger on enough of the republicans, happy days are here again. we won those four races. >> they barely run in places like kansas, south carolina, montana, georgia. it's not like they barely won in new york, pennsylvania, wisconsin. >> you'll have republicans on the ballot who will be going trump who. i don't know trump. that's going to be -- >> she was practically doing that. she felt she had to do that to survive already. >> she said, by the way, she may not be wrong. you have to be careful. you may have more to loose being against him but for him. >> what karen handel did was not take a side. i talked to voters, some were pro-trump. i even met a couple of hillary clinton voters who were republicans at her event. republicans may have to thread that needle. i don't think it will be as simple saying you're fully in the president's corner. unless things change in really
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big way. that's going to be something they'll have to orient themselves. >> you do this for a living. in jon ossoff said i'm going to be asked the question who am i going to vote for speaker. this is a question every local reporter ask. how would you advise a democrat to answer that question? >> do what's best for your district. >> if it's hugging inging pelo hugghug her? >> yes. >> what about the messaging front. what was he running on outside of stopping trump? >> i talked to jon about this. i see it playing out on twitter. jon had a choice to make. he could try to be the generic democrat for people who want to
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cast a message against or try to embody something a little more colorful for. he chose not to go that route because of the nature of the district. >> that's the thing. we don't have a control group on that. until we meet again. after the break the women of congress take on the press core and this is for a good cause. ♪ art. it can be sculpted, bringing to life beautiful detail. or painted in luxurious strokes.
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