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really just primarily dictated by corporate greed? that is simple wrong. so, yes, we want to change corporate behavior. we want to do away with these no-poach agreements in the fast food industry and across franchises. it unfairly targets especially low income workers. and we're not going to stand for it in pennsylvania. >> thank you very much, josh shapiro is the attorney general of pennsylvania. we are out of time. >> we hand you off to andrea mitchell. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," wrecking ball. president trump blasts our nato allies, accusing germany of being, quote, captive of russia. >> germany is totally controlled by russia. they're getting 60 to 70% of their energy from russia and a new pipeline. and you tell me if that's appropriate. growing despair. migrant parents pleading to be reunited with their children, including dozens of babies and toddlers, after the government misses the initial deadline to bring them back together.
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and many have no idea when they will see their kids. >> i met with another mother yesterday that has been detained here for almost six weeks now. and she has yet to have a phone call with her son. and victory at last. high spirits in thailand as the 12 boys rescued from the careful recover in the hospital, flashing victory signs today. >> at the hospital, more celebrations. inside, the boys reunited and well. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president trump hijacking the opening of the nato summit today with a blistering condemnation of america's closest allies during an unprecedented exchange with the secretary general of nato in brussels. >> we're protecting germany. we're protecting france. we're protecting all of these countries. and then numerous of the countries go out and make a
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pipeline deal with russia. >> we have all been able to unite around protecting and defending each other. we are stronger together than apart. between two world wars, we are stronger together than apart. >> how can you be together when a country is getting its energy from the person you want protection against or from the group that you want protection? >> because we understand that when we stand together, also in dealing with russia, we are stronger. i think what we have -- >> no, you're just making russia richer, you're not dealing with russia. >> joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker in brussels. maine independent senator angus king. msnbc political analyst andy card, former white house chief of staff for president george w. bush. and the senior director for political affairs under obama.
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welcome, all. first to you, kristen, because we have breaking news as we're going on the air. what seems like a confirmation from sarah sanders, she's going to have a statement shortly, that in his opening remarks today at nato, the president actually toldme the allies he wants them to come up to 4% of gdp, rather than 2% which is the goal. he's accusing them of not paying their fair share. now they seem to indicate there's going to be a white house statement that he now wants even more from them. >> reporter: it is incredibly significant, andrea. it also tracks with what we were expecting going into this summit. senior administration officials signaling the president was going to press allies to commit more to their common defense. what will the reaction be? that's the big question. we're also learning that there has been some type of joint agreement around bolstering
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defenses against russia, against terrorism, and these nato allies reaffirming their commitment to meeting that original 2% of their gdp by 2024. but president trump, andrea, as you have been reporting, in this extraordinary display this morning, really came out swinging against key allies here, against germany in particular, accusing germany of not paying its fair share and then essentially accusing germany of hypocrisy for striking a deal for a pipeline with russia. so really, a tough toe to open this summit. germany's chancellor firing back, saying look, germany acts independently and she's prepared for these types of confrontational discussions. there's been a lot of bluster, a lot of tensions in terms of optics. in terms of negotiables, in terms of tangibles, there may be some joint statement.
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what will be the reaction to that 4%? a number of countries will have to say that's just not realistic, andrea. >> and they will argue they contribute in other ways to their defense. to senator king, as a member of armed services and intelligence, there's an argument to be made about the deals that are made between the former chancellor in germany and russia for natural gas because of proximity. isn't it counter argument we should be exporting more, not getting into trade wars, we should be focusing on the energy sector, and why attack our nato allies, especially germany, as he's about to meet one on one with vladimir putin on monday? >> well, the odd thing to me about it was that it has really nothing to do with nato. this is an eu and in fact a german issue. and i can see discussing it. i think there are legitimate questions about security and not wanting to be overly dependent on russia, although i notice in that clip, the president used the figure 60 or 70%.
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my understanding is the actual number is about 20%. but even that is significant. so i think it's a legitimate issue. but why did it come up at a nato breakfast in the context of how much is paid and who pays what? and by the way, our defense spending is about 3.5% of gdp. so we don't make the 4% either that apparently the president is going to broach today with our allies. but the important point to me, andrea, is nato is about -- it's a treaty organization. it's about unity. it's about presenting a united front to an aggressive, a newly-aggressive russia. and these issues about who pays what, they're significant, but they shouldn't be the dominating issue, where really what we should be talking about is how do we confront the russians in the baltics or anywhere else in europe. >> senator blumenthal said today that the president should be apologizing to angela merkel and to germany. do you agree with that?
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>> well, i don't know if i would go that far. they're going to work this out. the comment about the pipeline, while there may be some substance to it, that's national security issue for germany. and it really -- i don't understand it coming up at the opening session of a nato meeting. >> speaker ryan was asked about this today, and in a rare split with the president, this is what he had to say about the way the president behaved today at nato. >> i subscribe to the view that we should not be criticizing our president while he's overseas. but let me say a couple of things. nato is indispensable. it's as important today as it has been. we're reflecting that in a resolution we're bringing to the floor today and i think the senate has a resolution as well. >> the senate resolution was 97-2, a rare show of independence from the republican-led senate about the president's behavior. andy card, you were a white
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house chief of staff, and you also worked in the reagan white house. and we saw the way ronald reagan led conversations at very fractious times in nato but managed to hold the alliance together. they had their disagreements but to know that the common enemy and adversary was really russia, the former soviet union, now russia, vladimir putin. what's your response to the way the president behaved today? >> nato is the most significant alliance in the history of the world. it's very important that we maintain a good working relationship with our fellow members of nato. it is also important that they increase their capability. so the increase in defense spending is less about nato and more about the capabilities is so that when they become part patterns with the u.s. to meet the military need, they have greater capacity to meet that need. i support raising the level of participation in our nato partners with their defense
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budgets. they've been trying to do that for a long time. george w. bush certainly tried to push them to the 2% point, they're on track to do that. i think we're going to do more like that. but they all pay their dues. i do think it's an important alliance. i wish the president would respect the value of the alliance more than he seems to. it has been a great partner in the war on terror, for example, and we couldn't have done our work in afghanistan if it had not been for nato allies and their partners there. it's a critical partner as we deal with the changing world, especially in the world of terrorism. and it's important that that relationship be respected. and i want the president to respect it. i also understand what he's talking about when he says that we want the partners in nato to step up and do more. we do want them to do more. i think they all pay their dues. but we want them to have greater capacity to help when it comes to providing military assistance than they can right now because they don't spend as much on defense spending and other nations as they should. >> in fact, if i recall
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correctly, it was you in florida on 9/11 who was whispering in the president's ear, telling him that america was under attack. nato's response was to pass an article v resolution coming to the mutual defense of the united states. >> and they did that even before the united states asked them to do it. they stepped up to meet their obligations under that alliance agreement. and we were very grateful. and they were terrific partners and they're still terrific partners in the work that the united states is trying to do to rid the world of terror. so it's important that relationship be respected and be improved. and i hope the president will work to improve it. i understand why he's calling for more defense spending to be made in some of these countries. but i think it's important to recognize that the alliance serves a mighty important purpose, not just in defending what is right in the world, but also giving hope to others that
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they will have a chance to be partners. it's interesting that the nate kn toe -- nato alliance has countries wanting to join the alliance, who aspire to be members of the nato alliance. >> as deputy energy secretary, you were responsible for america's nuclear arsenal. we're now with nato showing a weak hand. the u.s. is undercutting nato as the president prepares to sit down with vladimir putin. >> this is a strategic error on president trump's part, andrea. we need to show a united front because what we do know is the russians are seeking to exploit every division that exists among us in the nato alliance to their advantage. and the countries on the eastern front, which have been under russian subjugation bure tdurin
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cold war, are nervous about this game that trump is playing with the russians. when he comes to nato and attacks nato leaders publicly in the way he has done, playing fast and loose with facts that just don't add up with respect to the numbers, where we see allies making commitments to grow their capabilities, to be honest, it's less about money than it should be about the effects of their investment, how are they spending their defense dollars, what are they spending it on, are they growing their capabilities. and with regard to energy deals, one of the major investments we made during the obama administration was helping europe to become more energy independent, more secure against the use of energy as a weapon, which russia has done frequently. and we urge the chemistry to cancel the nord stream 2 pipeline, what president trump attacked angela merkel about today. the fact is germany is not
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dependent on russian gas and oil exclusively. in fact it gets 20% of its energy from natural gas and 40% of that is currently russian. so as angela merkel appropriately said today, very politely, she lived under russian domination because she grew up in east germany and she knows that a united germany is the way forward in the nato alliance to stand up to russian threats. >> senator king, the senate voted 97-2 to support nato. that resolution that was voted on yesterday, that's an unusual vote, 97-2, in the republican-led senate. >> it's hard to get a 97-2 vote around here on what time it is, andrea. so you're right, it was a very significant vote, totally bipartisan, and basically it was a very strong statement about how important nato was. and andy is right, i think you should go back to the clip of
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ambassador kay bailey hutchison a couple of days ago saying putin can smell weakness. and the most important thing we can project right now is unity. and, you know, let's do the arguing about the dues and the payment in, that's relevant, but it shouldn't overshadow the importance of unity, because, you know, the baltic states are right on the front line. and the last thing we want to do is to invite aggression, because then how do we respond? but andrea, i want back this morning and found a letter that donald trump put on all the major newspapers in the country in 1987, and it could have been written yesterday, because it's a really strong objection to america paying defense -- he was talking about japan and saudi arabia, but it could have as easily been about germany, france and great britain. this is something that's been under his skin for 30 years and he's still stating it. the problem is i think he's
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missing the major point which is the unity of nato is what's kept the peace in europe now for 70 years, and threatening that in the face of a newly-aggressive russia is just the wrong policy at the wrong time. >> and kristen welker, now sarah sanders has apparently confirmed this 4% demand. just look at the pictures, the senator mentioned kay bailey hutchison, she is our ambassador to nato, she was sitting at that breakfast, and we have a still photo of her trying to keep her fails as impassi-- her face as impassive as possible. clearly she and secretary pompeo and john kelly, a retired general, they were pretty stunned. i'm sure they had heard the rehearsal on the plane going over, but the fact that he just took generals -- jens
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stoltenberg on. >> the tone in these summits says everything. that's where some of the nuances and details lie. you can tell how caught off guard some of the president's closest advisers were. it's also significant to talk about defense secretary james mattis. he, according to sources familiar with his thinking, has been concerned about these unscripted, unpredictable moments. he is trying to make a point of staying very close to the president's side during this summit because he doesn't want to roil allies any more so than they already are. that moment undoubtedly will only add to the tensions. as you all have been discussing, the broader implications are the high stakes summit president trump will have in president putin in just a few days from now. if these alliances are weakened, the concern is, it gives
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president putin the upper hand. >> senator king, thank you very much, liz sherwood-randall, and andy card, former chief of staff for george w. bush. coming up, friend or foe? president trump calling russia a competitor. but will he stand up to vladimir putin at their meeting in finland on monday? former homeland security secretary michael chertoff joins me right here on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. wee, until her laptop crashed this morning. you never know what the day's going to bring when you're running a small business, it might even bring a blue screen of death. having it problems? ask a business advisor how to get virus and spyware removal, and 24/7 tech support. office depot now offers on demand tech support for as little as $15 a month. ♪ right now, save $300 on our hp 2-in-1 laptop bundle at office depot officemax
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it just seems like the tone of what we're doing is something that's not good for the alliance. and i'm very concerned that we have a rough meeting with nato and then some kind of conciliatory meeting with putin, and it works against our country's national interests. hopefully that won't happen. >> well, senator bob corker, the chairman of the foreign relations committee, pointedly criticizing the president's stunning comments today at nato. and of course the upcoming summit with vladimir putin. joining me, michael chertoff, former homeland security secretary and author of the new book "exploding data: reclaiming our cybersecurity in the digital age." congratulations on the book, mr. secretary, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. >> i want to talk about that and russia, clearly russia and the cyber world, the hacking of our election. but first, today's events in
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belgium. >> nato is a very important ally for us, it's as relevant now, maybe more relevant, than it's been for the last ten years, because we are facing a resurgent russia. so it's important to establish our solidarity with our allies. i understand that for several administrations now, there has been an issue about encouraging the nato countries to step up their spending on defense. and that's a fair point. but i wouldn't want to let that point undercut the value of what we've got with our european allies. in afghanistan, for example, they were shoulder to shoulder with us after 9/11, actually in the field. we should remember that at the same time that we urge them to spend a little bit more on defense. >> it does seem the president has the balance wrong especially because of the timing of his summit with vladimir putin, which is something he agreed to knowing that he was going to nato first. john kerry issued a statement today after watching the
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president saying why would an american president whose first nato meeting last year was a disaster show up in belgium this year just to prove he does not understand how vital alliances have made a huge difference for the security of the united states and the lives of europeans? i think he might remember that it was nato that stood shoulder to shoulder with the united states after 9/11 among many other contributions, a point you were just making. >> exactly. and again, now with russia actually on the rise and being more aggressive, nato has become more relevant than it's been for a couple of decades. so, you know, even as we prompt them to increase their capabilities, we should make it very clear that we are unified. and i should say in fairness, we do have troops positioned on the borders close to where russia comes up againstar na aour nato allies. so we've put capabilities in the field, an important indication of our commitment. >> in your book "exploding
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data," you point out how easily we were manipulated given the cyber intrusions. russia is a key player here. >> that's right. russia has been engaged in information operations or information warfare for decades. in fact it goes back to the soviet union. but they've become much more capable. and actually it's part of their strategic and military doctrine, to attempt to undermine the unity of effort of their adversaries by deliberately planting stories that will create social disruption, mistrust, and conflict. and we're seeing that in the united states. we've seen it in europe over the last ten years. and we've got to treat this as a major strategic challenge to our mutual defense. >> how important is it that the president bring up the election hacking and not simply accept putin's denials as he has in the past? >> i think the president needs to make it clear to the russians that there are red lines. some of it is the election hacking. he doesn't need to say you
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caused me to win, but he does need to indicate, as the intelligence community and the senate intelligence committee has recently, that we understand the russians have attempted to meddle and are trying to do it again. he's got to talk about their positioning of malware, malicious tools, on our critical infrastructure including our electric grid. he has to talk about how unacceptable it is to try to annex or subjugate parts of the ukraine. it doesn't mean we can't talk to the russians, that we can't find some areas where we can have some kind of mutual agreement. but it does mean we need to understand what the lines are. and remember, andrea, that he criticized president obama for being so eager to have an iranian agreement that we overlooked a lot of what iran was doing. he doesn't want to make the same mistake with russia. >> i wanted to ask you as a former homeland security secretary about the policy of zero tolerance that has led to
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3,000, nearly 3,000 young children, many toddlers, infants in fact, not reunited with their parents despite a court order that they be reunited. only four of the 102 children under 5 that were supposed to be were reunited by tuesday's deadline. how do you justify this policy without there being an apparent way to keep track of the children and their parents and reunite them as hhs and homeland said they could? >> i don't know how this policy got initiated. i'm not quite sure what's meant by zero tolerance. i will say, if you are going to wind up detaining people and you can't do it with their children, you don't have a family facility, at a minimum you would expect to be able to track with great precision which child belongs to which parent because eventually the idea would be you're going to reunite them even if you deport them. so there's clearly been a failure of planning and implementation. and i don't think it's deliberate, necessarily. it may simply be that this was initiated by the justice
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department in it haste. but now they've really got to step up the process of making sure we don't have any lost children. that would be really, as i say, an assault on motherhood, which is something we generally consider to be off limits. >> michael chertoff. the book is "exploding data." thank you so much for being with us on all fronts. perfect segue, joining me from el paso, texas, nbc's gabe gutierrez with the story of two fathers who have been reunited with their kids after being separated at the border. finally, a good story, a small one. >> reporter: hi, andrea, good afternoon. this news conference is about to get started here at annunciation house in el paso. these are some of the first stories we're hearing about these migrant families that were reunited yesterday. i'm here joined by rubin garcia. if we can look at these children that we're seeing for the first time, rubin, tell me a little bit about them, who are they and where did their parents come
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from? >> actually there's not a whole lot that i can give you, because the notification that we received was pretty late yesterday. we were notified at 6:15 that three fathers were each going to be released with -- they were going to be reunited and then released with their child. and so two fathers had sons, one father had a daughter, all of them four years of age and younger. one of the children was 3. after all the paperwork, they were transported to us yesterday evening, arriving here at about 8:30. >> the camera is on them right now, these are the two parents who have agreed to speak to the media. how long were they separated? >> that's part of what we're going to answer today. there have been some pretty extended separations between the father and the child. one of the things that is of concern to us is that we believe
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that one of the parents may have entered through a port of entry and they were still prosecuted, which is something that we have been assured does not happen, because that's the correct way, so to speak. >> reporter: and the department of homeland security says repeatedly that that is the correct way to do it and that those cases will be prosecuted within 72 hours. >> absolutely something we want to look into. >> reporter: i know you're about to get this news conference started. tell me, what's the next step for these families? >> for them, obviously, being reunited with their child is the number one thing, that's already happened, we're very pleased. the next is for them to be reunited with their extended family. both will be departing later today to different parts of the united states where they will be reunited. >> reporter: and the next step, nearly 3,000 children are in federal custody. these are children that are older, 5 years and older. >> right. >> reporter: how is that process going according to what you've seen? >> we're very concerned. we have two other parents that are with us who have older children. they've been able to have visits
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with their children. and we're concerned about all the different hoops that they're going to have to go through to get their child reunited. obviously we're very concerned about the july 26th deadline and whether they're going to be able to fulfill that deadline and return their children to them as well. >> reporter: rubin garcia with annunciation house, thank you so much for joining us. andrea, this news conference is about to get started in el paso. we're hearing some of the first stories of the youngest children reunited yesterday throughout the country. andrea, back to you. >> gabe, i know you've got to go. thank you so much for bringing us the real news before it even happened. thank you. we'll have a lot more on the migration process when we come back. stay with us. capital one and hotels.com are giving venture cardholders 10 miles on every dollar they spend at thousands of hotels. brrrr! i have the chills. because of all those miles? and because ice... is cold. what's in your wallet? and because ice... is cold. you always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed?m
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dozens of migrant infants and toddlers have yet to be reunited with their parents after the trump administration failed to meet a court-ordered deadline yesterday. government lawyers say only four of 102 children under 5 years of age had been reunited with their parent before tuesday's deadline. another 34 were expected to be reunited. joining me is the national correspondent for pbs news hour.
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you've been tracking a familiar that doesn -- a family that doesn't even come under that court order. >> exactly. this is a 3-year-old girl. she crossed legally from mexico with her grandmother into el paso last month. >> legally. >> legally. they made a crossing and sought asylum here. their family has been attacked and targeted by cartels, several family members have already been killed in the last few years. her grandmother has been her caregiver since she was a baby and said that she is her legal guardian as well and has documents to prove that. regardless of that, they were separated at the border. the girl has been in detention in a facility hundreds of miles away from where they were separated, for 18 days. the family has had two phone calls since then, very brief, with the mother. they're now working with the normal reunification process, in no way expedited per the judge's order. sophie, in this case, it looks like, does not fall into that category.
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>> where is the grandmother and the other custodial parents? >> they have all now been reunited together. the grandmother was released from custody. there was no criminal activity or behavior there. so they're all together on the west coast going through this reunification process. andrea, it's important to point out too, it looks like all the stress of the separation and the uncertainty is taking a toll. the grandmother over the weekend suffered a stroke and was in hospital for a few days. >> a stroke? >> a stroke. they say it has to do of course with the stress from all of this, the child she's been raising since she was a baby has been away from her and they don't know when she'll get her back. she's thankfully out of the hospital, looks to be making a recovery. of course it speaks to the enormous stress and toll that this process is taking on families who are trying to navigate it in real time. >> and the little girl, am i correct she's in pennsylvania? >> we believe she is, yes. of course hhs will not release any information about specific cases to us. suffice to say, they are several hundred miles apart in this case, the little girl and the family they're working to get her back to.
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>> i know you're staying on it and with your grace, we'll stay on it with you. thank you very much. it's great to see you. we'll see you on "the news hour" on pbs. in thailand, good news, the young boys are recovering in hospital after spending two weeks trapped in a cave. the doctors say they are in good condition. the thai navy s.e.a.l.s released this new video from the dramatic rescue itself. the operation, which involved 90 divers from around the world, showed extraordinary heroism from all, including the youngest. we'll be right back. because so9 one-way sale fares for travel throughout september and october. so you can fill the rest of your year with amazing trips. from football games to reunions, or just a break from the office. these $69 one-way sale fares are ready to make your september and october a whole lot better. book now at southwest.com. low fares. no hidden fees.
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now starting at $7.99. gillette. the best a man can get. in brussels today, president trump called on nato countries to increase their defense spending from 2% to 4% of their gdp. president trump has been accusing his fellow nato members of not pulling their weight. in technically none of them are in arrears because they're not supposed to reach their higher spending goal until 2024 and they are up to date on their yearly dues. the president does not mention any of that. and the fact that the allies paid the u.s. $2.5 billion for keeping their troops in europe. joining me now, congressman adam schiff. welcome. in watching his performance at nato today, we're struck at how the u.s. is the outlier, in all the pictures he's standing looking off one way, they're looking in another.
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we used to be the glue that held together this alliance. >> that's absolutely right. it's so striking to look at comments like that of the european council head, donald tusk, saying america, you should cherish your allies, you don't have any left. imagine we're in a world where america doesn't have many allies left and where we're alienating our strongest partners and embracing some of our most bitter adversaries. it's head spinning. and more importantly, it's really dangerous for our country. it's dangerous for our collective security. this proposal of doubling our nato partners -- >> what do you think of that? >> i think that our nato partners have to presume that this is a president who just doesn't want a good relationship with nato. they haven't met the 2% goal yet, so he's upping it. he's challenging them, saying no matter what you do, it's not going to be enough. and i have to think that putin must be celebrating, it's great
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news for him, great news for russia, great news for author tarri awuthoritarians around th world. >> what should he be saying? >> you have to come clean about what you did to meddle in our election and if it happens again, you're going to pay a heavy price. that's the conversation he should have. i don't think anyone has the expectation that he will. for the president to be chastising germany as being to beholden to russia when this president seems more beholden to putin than any in memory is really hard to digest. >> why is president trump so admiring of vladimir putin? have you figured this out? you see all the intelligence. >> you know, i think there are at least three possibilities.
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it's either his general fondness for dictatorial figures, or it may be that having been criticized for this, he is in trumpian fashion doubling down, tripling down, just compounding the error. or it may be that the russians have something over his head, that the russians have been laundering money through his businesses, or there's some other leverage the russians have, which is obviously the subject of our investigation. any of those are possible. all of those are possible. >> secretary mattis seems to be walking a tightrope now, because he is trying to reassure the allies that we believe in collective security, this is the most important defense treaty that's ever existed. and at the same time, he can't offend the boss. look what happened to h.r. mcmaster, by trying to speak truth to power. >> that's very true, he's in a very difficult position. i think he's walked that line very well. but look, he is not -- secretary mattis is not going to be able
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to persuade our allies that donald trump believes in our collective security because he doesn't. and that's all too clear. what i hope general mattis can persuade our allies is that, sadly, the president is an outlier in the united states. on a bipartisan basis, we do support nato, we do support our collective security, we recognize how this has improved the quality of our lives, our economy, and our security. that's the most he can hope for, to impress upon them that in this respect the president of the united states does not speak for the united states. >> he seems to have also confused our trade issues around the world with our security issues, because nato is a defense alliance. it's not the wto, it's not a trade treaty, it's not the g-7. >> i think this is part of donald trump and his whole aura of victimization. everybody's out to get the united states, everybody's taking advantage of the united
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states, america is a sucker on trade, america is a sucker on defense, everybody's eating our lunch. >> those sound like good bumper stickers for midterm election getting out the base. >> it is such a negative vision of america. i think frankly americans respond much more powerfully to a positive vision of our place in the world, of our future in the world. americans don't like to view themselves as victims. and the irony of course is, as the head of a party, the republican party, that has always attacked the idea of vick -- victimization, the prime practitioner of victimization now is the president of the united states. >> adam schiff, thank you. we're waiting for the president to arrive at tonight's nato dinner. what will he say next? we'll bring it to you live when it happens. i was just finishing a ride. i felt this awful pain in my chest. i had a pe blood clot in my lung.
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after this morning rallying against germany, accusing them of being controlled by russia. let's get the latest from yam mish. welcome to both of you. first to you phil, you've been following nato and the president for quite a long time. watching this today was pretty head-snapping. >> reporter: it sure was, andrea. a pretty remarkable day here and it began with the breakfast where president trump launched that attack against the german chancellor angela merkel. they met face to face hours later. trump had happy talk in the meeting and talked about a tremendous relationship with the country. it clearly is not. a lot of those gathered were.
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merkel has been chancellor for many, many years and is regarded as a leader, a consensus builder within this al leans. >> is he doing this, yamiche, for political consumes back home? is he trying to show how tough he is before he goes to the uk where he's expected to face protesters? he may not see them. but to be isolated on his visit because of the protesters in london where he's very unpopular? >> reporter: president trump blasted his way into nato, using the words that germ many is controlled by russia. people saying he, himself being controlled by russia. there's the mueller investigation looking into whether or not his company was controlled by russia, there's an idea he was using those words and projecting the issues he has with himself back at angela merkel. i think what's important here is a lot of the sources i talked to including german sources were
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surprise bid the ferociousness of the attack. they understood president trump would come out strong, talk about defense spending. to then go after germany and say specifically you are being held captive by russia is really something that is really startling. nato engages, which is a conference happening outside of nato but has to do with think tanks across the world and government officials, i talked to a source there who say they should president trump brought a wrelking ball and people there are were disgusted and concerned about the things that he said. >> phil rucker, one of the things so remashable was watching the president's advisers and president's secretaries at that breakfast. if you looked at john kelly, the retired general, he kept taking glasses of water. pompeo watched as impassively as he could. kate bailey hutchison looked as if she was wanted to be anywhere
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else but sitting there, watching them be berated by the commander-in-chief. >> reporter: that's right. we know the advisers will try to steer trump or to speak to a set of talking points. that's what he wants to do. he improvises. he has faith in his own gun and what he wants to do. he came to brussels to try to shake things up, determined to take it to germany and angela merkel. he thinks it's working politically at home. remember the campaign rally in montana last week, he attacked merkel. he attacked nato. he's trying to turn his political base against nato. he thinks it plays to his advantage politically back in the united states. >> earlier that breakfast which was so controversial and offensive was tweeted out by the white house on the official account. so they were promoting it almost immediately afterward. now the president has tweeted,
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and this seems to be his tweet, phil. you're better trump whisperer than anyone. he tweeted what good is nato if germany is paying russia billions of dollars for gas and energy. why are there, misspelled, five of 29 countries that have met their kmimtment. the u.s. must pay 2% of gdp immediately, not by 2025. that doesn't seem like dan scavi scavino. >> reporter: es somely i think he's someone who sees this message and wanted to double down. it wasn't enough for him to come out swinging. he wanted to remind people of it. he wanted to highlight that as what he was doing at nato. i think it goes back to what phil was talking about, he thinks it works for him. when i was in duluth talking about trump supporters, they were praising him saying he's making america look strong, this is what they wanted in president
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trump. i should say this is something we should expect because that's what candidate trump says. a lot of times he gets pushback about changing his mind, but in this case if you saw president trump on the company trail, you knew european allies would have a mouthful from him. that's what he did today. >> thanks to both of you. you have a big trip coming up. yamiche alcindor and phil rubbing kerr, th rucker, thanks very much. more ahead. it's time for your business of the week. this plant-based burger looks, feels and on tastes like its beef-made twin. and it's taking the culinary world by store. impossible foods is changing the way carnivores thinking. for more, watch "your business" sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. 'a . . the world is full of more possibilities than ever before.
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