for a border wall, they couldn't comment on the border wall nor the tunnels go under it. >> jacob soboroff, as always, thank you, sir, i appreciate it. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," state of the union. day 26 of the historic government shutdown and the speaker of the house with the power to invite or disinvite the president for the annual address two weeks from now tells him not to come until the government reopens. >> this requires hundreds of people working on the logistics and the security of it. most of those people are either furloughed or victims of the shutdown, the president's shutdown. deadly attack. less than a month after donald trump declared victory over isis, a suicide bomber kills four americans in northern syria. >> reporter: witnesses tell us this is what happened. a group of coalition forces was on foot in the city of menbij.

a man approached who was hiding an explosive vest. he was a suicide bomber. in the light of day. the president's nominee for attorney general will not promise to let the mueller report go public. >> under the current regulations, the special counsel report is confidential. the report that goes public would be a report by the attorney general. >> so what we will be getting is your report of the mueller report. is that what you're telling us? >> i don't know what -- at the end of the day what will be releasable. and good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell, back in washington, where nancy pelosi has just raised the stakes in the shutdown fight, calling on president trump to delay his state of the union address, citing security concerns until the government reopens or

deliver it in writing to congress. her top deputy, with a different tone, congressman steny hoyer is taking a stronger stance, saying the president has been disinvited altogether. >> reporter: what do you make of the speaker disinviting you for the state of the union? that's the way i read it. >> that's the proper way to read it. to pretend we're going to have business as usual is not what we think is the proper way to proceed. >> this is a housekeeping matter in the congress of the united states is that we can honor the responsibility of the invitation we extended. he can make it from the oval office. >> the letter to the president from republican senator lamar alexander, signed by some of his colleagues, calling for the government to reopen while talks continue on the wall. and the growing economic toll of the shutdown has hit the military for the first time. 42,000 active duty military

coast guard members missed their paychecks, the first time an entire branch of the military has gone unpaid. joining me, nbc's garrett haake, fresh from chasing everyone on capitol hill, and indica. garrett, this sounds like the speaker has the power to invite or disinvite, it's always been pro forma, agreeing on a date convenient for both sides, it sounds like he's disinvited from giving the state of the union unless the government reopens. >> it's pretty clear that's the overarching message. it was interesting to hear how differently democrats spun the way this is being sent out. speaker pelosi was very careful to say this is about security, the state of the union is a special security event, it's designated that by the department of homeland security, and she said it would be irresponsible to have so many

protectees inside the united states state capitol while the secret service isn't being paid and the department of homeland security is shut down. and then you had steny hoyer saying this is a disinvitation to the president. a lot of senate democrats talking about how to get the president to see the shutdown as a real thing affecting real people when he's essentially surrounded by people who agree with him, he watches only one form of news. this is a way to make the shutdown real to the president certainly. to pelosi's point, the president may very well find another way to communicate to the american people on that night, but it seems very clear he won't be doing it mere. >> garrett, let me quickly ask a followup and get kristen's reaction from the white house's perspective. there are a couple of scenarios here. he could do it in the white house, that would be something kristen will be checking into. there's also the possibility mitch mcconnell could invite him to come to the senate chamber, which would not be, notably, a

joint session of congress. >> i'm not a constitutional scholar here, but the speech itself isn't mandated. the president has to give some kind of update to the united states congress, that's in the constitution. but how he chooses to do it is a little more broad. he could submit it in writing as has been the case in the past. or we could very well see the president show up anywhere else in the country to give a speech or do it from the oval office. his options to communicate are his. but the actual notification to congress on the state of the union isn't specified in how the president chooses to do it. >> and kristen welker, the white house just getting this news in the last hour or so, but the fact is, the president does have lots of venues. it doesn't have the broad sweep of of the state of union address before congress, but it could be done in the senate chamber, which republicans control. >> that's right, andrea. i can tell you that white house officials right now are still processing this information. so we anticipate we'll get some type of reaction soon.

this is a president who is also a former reality tv star, so he understands the power of the optics of addressing a joint session of congress, and nothing quite comes close to that. but you're right, look, he's also a master communicator, someone who has reached out to the public via twitter, through social media. so could he find another venue, might he hit the road like garrett suggests? undoubtedly those are among the options that are under consideration. andrea, it does come as this standoff is deepening. i was speaking with some senior officials overnight who basically indicated that there's no real discussions going on right now at the highest levels about how to reach a deal, how to end this standoff. and i pressed some of these officials on the fact that recent polls say that the majority of americans hold the president and hold republicans responsible for this shutdown. but this is a white house that's essentially saying, look, polls are different when it comes to this president, take a look at

what happened during the 2016 election. so they are tuning a lot of that out, andrea, as the president digs in. for him this is about his base and this is about that key campaign promise of building a wall, andrea. >> but kristen, what about the possibility now with lamar alexander, a republican, circulating this letter, that he gets enough support to have a veto-proof majority in the senate, what about mitch mcconnell being pressured by his own colleagues? >> he is getting pressure. but andrea, he certainly hasn't given in yet. and he has been very clear, he's not going to bring a bill to the floor that the president won't sign, and he's not going to support a veto measure of this president. the president will be huddling with a bipartisan group of lawmakers here. that meeting likely has already gotten under way. will there be any discussion that comes out of it? it's possible. yesterday the president huddled

with republicans, he invited democrats as well, they didn't show up. it's significant there will be democrats today. we hope they come out and talk to us and answer our questions afterwards, and that we'll get to see if they were able to find any areas of compromise. >> a lot of democratic freshmen in that group scheduled to come. cathy park is with the coast guard families in cape cod. you've been talking to people who have within really affected by this, the stories from there are pretty extraordinary. >> andrea, that's right. we're at a smaller coast guard where we're feeling the impact of the government shutdown. the harbor master told me activity has gone down since the shutdown began. yesterday was significant because thousands of families went without paychecks. the coast guard, something to point out, is the only branch of the military going with this shutdown, without pay, because the department of homeland security.

we had an opportunity to sit down with the wives, some of these coast guard members, who gave us a reality check, who told us they're budgeting, they're scaling back. they're entering into a financial crisis that they have never been in before. let's take a listen. >> we're really scrimping. we're not leaving the house if we don't have to, because that's gas money. we are not going out to eat. my anniversary is today, we've been married 19 years. we're not doing anything for our anniversary because it just seems like such a waste to spend money to go out to eat when we don't know what's happening in the next few weeks. >> we want to buy a house. one of the things we have intentions on doing in our near future was purchasing a home. well, if we're missing credit card bills, if we're not able to make these things, it's going to affect our credit, and that potentially can prevent us from being able to buy a home in the next few months. that's scary too. >> for these people it is completely coming home to them,

it's so real. thank you so much, kathy park, kristen welker, garrett haake, thanks to all of you. joining me now is democratic congressman james clyburn, third ranking democrat in the house. a lot to ask you about today. which is it, what speaker pelosi said, that it's for security reasons that she's suggesting the president not come, or is it more than a suggestion, is she disinviting the president from the state of the union if the shutdown still going on, as steny hoyer said? >> well, thank you very much for having me, andrea. the problem we've got here is whether or not we are going to act as if this is a usual situation. we're in a very unusual situation. and we have to conduct ourselves that way. now, we have a lot of government employees who are working and not being paid. that raises all kinds of

security issues involving the government. and government personnel. and we are concerned about that. so i support the speaker's letter. i think we ought to conduct ourselves as if we are in an unusual situation, and that is why i support her. i think that we have to get this government open again. and we should do that right away. and the president can do that. the senate can do that. we've passed four pieces of legislation designed to open up the government right away. and we think that the senate ought to act. and we think that the president ought to call for the senate to act. let's open the government up. let's have these debates later on. but the american people should not be put at risk at airports, their food supply should not be put at risk, their safety in traveling to and fro should not be risky. and we can do that if we just

open the government up, get people back to working. then let's sit down and try to work out what our differences are about how to secure the southern border. and i think that can be done within hours if they develop the will to do so. >> he is refusing, and we know that mitch mcconnell is refusing to take up the house bill. so if this still is continuing, going up to january 29th, the day of the state of the union, less than two weeks from now, is there not going to be a speech? is he not invited? >> well, that's what the letter seems to indicate to me. and i don't think we ought to conduct ourselves that way. look, i seem to remember in my lifetime that we had the president taking obligation in writing. it is not unusual for this report to be made without us

going into a joint session. i've seen that -- i think that's happened in my lifetime. sometimes i have problems with dealing with history that i've read as opposed to history that i've lived. >> we all do, congressman. >> but i think that's happened before in my lifetime. >> well, let me also ask you about a very important story, which is steve king, your republican colleague, i use that term very broadly, from iowa, of course for his racist comments and the fact that he was criticized by the house but not censured, as i understand it. >> right. >> do you think, as bobby rush said in his one vote against this, that he should have been censured, that it should have been a stronger punishment? >> i understand bobby rush's feelings. bobby is a very good friend. we talk often. we discussed this at length before the vote. and we had discussed it since the vote. the fact of matter is, i hesitate to go as far as censure

for anything that's done outside the realm of our official duties. this was a conversation taking place with the reporters at a newspaper. it was not done on the house floor. it was not done in can you teon house business. that's why i thought a resolution of disapproval would be more appropriate in this instance. now, a lot of people think otherwise. two newspapers in his home state now think he should resign. some of his own colleagues, republican colleagues are calling for him to resign. so all of that is appropriate. i just don't think in our official duties and responsibilities here, we ought to move to the point of censure when it looks as if someone may be expressing free speech. >> thank you very much.

it should be pointed out he's lost his position on all committees, according to the republicans in the house. >> right. >> so he no longer can effectively represent his constituents. thank you so much, congressman, thanks for being with us today. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. and coming up, breaking news from syria. terrible news, an explosion killing american service members. isis already claiming responsibility. richard engel brings us the latest from syria next. us the latest from syria next the expert rootmetrics say is number one in the nation? sure, they probably know what they're talking about. or the one that j.d. power says is highest in network quality by people who use it every day? this is a tough one. well, not really, because verizon won both. so you don't even have to choose. why didn't you just lead with that? it's like a fun thing. (vo) chosen by experts. chosen by you. get six months apple music on us. it's the unlimited plan you need on the network you deserve. now buy the latest galaxy phones, get galaxy s9 free. i was thinking...d clot could there be another around the corner? or could it turn out differently?

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and breaking news from syria, americans have been killed in a suicide bombing in the town of manbij were coalition forces were conducting routine patrol. isis is already claiming responsibility. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in syria with new details about this attack. we don't know how many, we don't know the breakdown, military versus civilian, but americans have been killed here. >> reporter: the military has said that multiple service members have been killed. but it hasn't described exactly where they're from or how many, just that it was service members, plural, that there have been a range of numbers that have been put out there. but we do know more details about how the attack happened. there was a patrol of sorts in the city of manbij. the patrol had stopped in front of a restaurant. they were on foot at the time. the restaurant is a well-known

restaurant in manbij, called the prince's palace. i've been to a restaurant just down the street from it. it is considered the best restaurant in town, right in the old city. and witnesses tell us that u.s. forces would routinely go to this restaurant to pick up food or even to go inside and to eat. and this attack happened at 1:00. two witnesses told us, they live right across the street, that some u.s. forces were inside the restaurant at 1:00. some others were outside, talking to people. and that a suicide bomber dressed in civilian clothes blew up his device right at the door, killing some people on the inside, killing some people who were on the street as well. the total number of killed, according to kurdish officials, they're not distinguishing which were american forces, which were coalition forces, which were locals, they're saying that 24 people in total have been killed.

but we don't know the breakdown of that. >> richard, it's all extraordinary. of course this is only, you know, a month after the president said that isis has been defeated, and on december 19th declared there would be the withdrawal, and we saw all the back and forth on that. i also wanted to bring up and play for you and get your reactions on the other side, this incredible exclusive interview you had with christopher clark. i'm sorry, i have his name incorrectly, i think it's warren clark from texas. >> reporter: warren christopher clark. >> warren christopher clark. this interview was amazing. let me play part of it and ask you about it. >> i want to actually go see exactly what the group was about and what they were doing. >> when you went in the spring of 2015, it was already pretty clear what isis was all about. they had already committed atrocities that they were putting out in video after video. >> yeah, of course i saw that, i saw the videos.

you know, umm, the beheadings, that's execution. you know, i'm from the united states. from texas. they like to execute people too. >> richard, sit across from him, he was there for three years. he even -- you showed that he sent his resume to isis, applying to come there. please, can you explain or understand this? >> reporter: he explained to me that he was a curious soul, someone who had a political science major, studied in texas, and that he wanted to experience life under the islamic state, that he himself is a muslim convert, that he thought he wanted to live there and that he crossed over the border from turkey with the aid of a smuggler, linked up with isis, that he was inside isis territory when he applied for a job. he had he went to the isis

coalition, the isis government at the time in the iraqi city of mosul and said, i have a certificate for teaching english as a second language, do you need any teachers. and they said, well, we do have an english department at the university of mosul, send us your resume and a cover letter. he did that. but he says he never got the job and that he ended up spending most of his time falling back with the group from place to place as isis was being attacked. he says he was homeless for a while, was living in mosques, that he was making a living selling candy, selling pringles and snickers to other people living inside the caliphate, inside the isis territory. he claims that he was never a fighter, that he was never actually a member of the group, was just there to experience it. now he's been detained by kurdish forces. he's been briefed, he said, by the fbi. and his future is uncertain. we will see if he gets deported to the united states, if u.s.

justice accepts that argument that he just went there as a tourist. >> richard engel's exclusive reporting. please be safe, my friend. thank you so much. thanks for everything you're doing, richard. >> reporter: thank you. joining us now, republican congressman adam kinzinger who served in the air force in both iraq and afghanistan. this is extraordinary. we've lost more service members, we don't know how many. this is from the terror group that supposedly was defeated so we could withdraw our troops. lindsey graham i think agrees with you that that was a precipitous announcement from the president. let me just play what senator graham had to say today and get your reaction. >> my concern with the statements made by president trump is that you have set in motion enthusiasm by the enemy we're fighting. you make people we're trying to help wonder about us. so i would hope the president

would look long and hard befoat syria. >> who withdraw sould you say t president about this withdrawal timetable? >> it's fair to say isis exists and they're going to exist for a while. liberating the caliphate is important and we've done that in big way. but the group doesn't go away because you've taken their territory. it's a mindset that has to be defeated both militarily, by finding people who exist and killing them and capturing them. but it also has to be won in the mosques of the muslim faith where they have to have that next generation come along and reject this kind of ideology. it's similar to the cold war. you know, it took decades to win the cold war. there was a military component, but there was a component where the people behind the iron curtain rejected the philosophy of communism and that's what ultimately overthrou througthre.

this is a fight we cannot retreat from, because choosing to fight terrorism is not a choice. the only choice we have is where we fight them at. >> i want to bring to your notice what the vice president said today at a global chiefs of mission conference on syria. let's watch. >> thanks to the leadership of this commander in chief and the courage and sacrifice of our armed forces, we're now actually able to begin to hand off the fight against isis in syria to our coalition partners. and we are bringing our troops home. the caliphate has crumbled and isis has been defeated. >> as you pointed out, the caliphate has crumbled. but that doesn't mean that the risk to american security at home and abroad is over. and i just returned from riyadh where we were talking to the secretary of state, and he's been saying all over the middle east that we're going to eliminate iranian boots on the ground in syria even after we withdraw our troops. how do we get rid of the

iranians and the russians from taking over syria if we're pulling our troops out? what's left? we have to diplomats there. we have no intelligence there. once we take out our troops, we've got nothing, and the syrian kurds will be slaughtered. >> that's right. having troops in syria gives us a seat at the table for negotiations. when negotiations are ultimately done in syria, every war ends that way, no iran. if you take the troops out, you don't have a seat at that table. you know, look, the fact is isis is crumbling, the caliphate is crumbling. but if you look at what we actually have postured in syria, this is exactly how we should be fighting wars. it's not 150,000 troops occupying syria. it's special operators among others that are working with indigenous forces, with coalition partners to do the bulk of the fighting. we can do air strikes. most of the fighting on the ground is with our coalition partners. to walk away from that very successful model would be a massive mistake especially in light of today's news. >> congressman kinzinger, thank

you very much, appreciate it. meanwhile, kenya's president says today the gunmen responsible for a horrific attack on a luxury hotel complex killing 14 people, including one american citizen, have, quote, been eliminated. the extremist group al shabaab, responsible for an earlier attack in nairobi, is claiming responsibility for tuesday's deadly assault, sending hundreds of kenyans racing from the terrifying scene. cameras cause citizens escaping down ladders, hiding from gunmen during the incident. red cross officials in the country say there are still 50 people missing, we don't know what's happened to them. the mother of the american victim, a former peace corps member and survivor of the 9/11 attacks, tells nbc news her son was trying to make positive change in the third world. a british national was also killed in the attack. the american would have been 41 years old next week. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. i don't keep track of regrets.

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punished for russia's hacking of democrats in the 2016 campaign. 11 republican senators joined chuck schumer's resolution in a successful test vote tuesday. but to become final, schumer needs three more senators, three more republicans to shift. today's action follows a senate confirmation hearing for attorney general nominee bill barr, dominated by the russia probe. joining me to talk about both, nbc justice correspondent pete williams and white house correspondent ann gearrin. it looks like barr is headed towards confirmation. while he said he wouldn't be bullied by congress, editorial writers, or the president, so he tried to strike a tone of independence, he refused to say he would release the mueller report. he refused to say he would follow the ethics guidance of the staff at doj if they say he should be recusing himself. >> right. so on the mueller report itself, i think there's been somewhat of

a misconception about it. we never thought we would see, quote unquote, the mueller report in detail. it's going to contain grand jury information, intelligence. but i think many in the public and in the congress had thought what we would get is a redacted version of it, once all that stuff was taken out. what barr said yesterday is, he's not sure how this is going to work, he said i want to release as much information as possible, but he noted, correctly i should point out, that the special counsel rules say that mueller's report to the attorney general, which is required when mueller's work is done, is confidential. so barr said basically, i'm not sure what that means, whether we release the report in some form. he also suggested a couple of times that what might come out is his summary or his report about the mueller report. and members of both parties urged him not to take that later course, to put out the mueller report in as much detail as possible. now, he did say that -- or he was asked, rather, i think by

pat leahy, leahy had read that rudy guiliani, one of the president's lawyers, wanted to basically edit it before it comes out. barr said that's not going to happen. >> they're doing a quorum call to make sure everybody is there before they start this final debate. ann gearrin, while i clear my throat, oleg deripaska was sanctioned, the president was forced to accept these sanctions because a bipartisan congress forced him to do this. now the treasury unilaterally lifting sanctions just on this one bad actor, someone very close to vladimir putin, at the same time as we get new information that the president wanted to withdraw from nato, which would be exactly what putin wanted. with all of this swirling around him, how does it make it look that the president is doing what

seems to be vladimir putin's bidding on point after point? >> right. there are so many threads that do knit together around one central thing, which is that time after time the president defaults to a position that is close to or aligned with the things that putin wants. you're absolutely right about nato. there would be no greater gift, geopolitical victory for vladimir putin than the u.s. withdrawal from nato. he's already scored a de facto political victory by the things that president trump has said about u.s. commitment to nato and the fact that the president clearly does not think that the nato alliance is beneficial, as beneficial to the united states as it should be. but what the senate vote already does, regardless of whether or not enough republicans continue to break ranks, and a lot of

them already have, that should tell the president something, but what this entire exercise does is undermine the president's one defense that he goes back to over and over again which is, i've been tougher on russia than anybody else. any other administration, i've been tougher. and the main thing that they have to point to on that is sanctions, is the main lever of power for this administration and previous administrations when it comes to russia, this administration has added sanctions and hasn't removed them. if they are now moving to remove them against this one very central actor, that undermines that argument. >> and the other reporting in the last couple of days has been that the president hid the notes, took the notes from the translator in helsinki, which is unprecedented. not only did he not have a real note-taker, he just had a translator there, one on one, he did not brief his intelligence officials as i know from dan coats in real time, but the fact is he took those notes and maybe

destroyed them. let me ask a quick question of pete williams before we have to run. pete, is there anything that mueller would be investigating about this? we don't know that, i guess. those are official records, the note of the state department translator. if the president took them and destroyed them, isn't that terribly suspicious? >> i don't know whether mueller is looking into any of that, whether that goes beyond his mandate. barr was asked about this yesterday, senator kamala harris said doesn't the presidential records act require those documents to be saved. and barr basically said, you know, i used to know all about the records act when i was attorney general 27 years ago, and i can't remember what it says now. but he said he would look into it. >> well, that's interesting. i was just asking that question, i didn't know that, but i'm glad it was asked by the senators. pete and anne, thank you so much, on a business day, thanks for coming by. coming up, trailblazers.

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this is going to be a very different campaign. because we're willing to take on those systems of power that do not want americans to have that

opportunity. only light can drive out darkness. only what's right can defeat what's wrong. and i feel very called at this moment to make that difference. >> new york senator kirsten gillibrand opening her 2020 presidential bid this morning in her hometown of troy, new york, which will also serve as her campaign headquarters. gillibrand is the sixth democrat now to officially launch a campaign to take on president trump. there are a lot more standing in the wings. nbc's morgan radford, msnbc contributor jonathan capehart, "washington post" opinion writer mike menoli is here with me. gillibrand first declared on the colbert -- no, it wasn't colbert. excuse me. last night, yes, on colbert.

>> andrea, that's right. she came out swinging this morning. as you mentioned, this was her first public appearance in her bid for president after announcing it last night with stephen colbert. she came out swinging, andrea. this is the country view diner in troy, new york. she lives just a stone's throw away. she made it very clear what her platform was going to be. she said it is about creating greater access to education and health care and it's also about fighting institutional racism and special interests. i have to say, andrea, the announcement that she was making her bid, it was met with some mixed reviews. some question exactly what her status would be in terms of where she would fall on the political spectrum. they cited the fact that back when she was in the house, she was a centrist figure but then changed her tune on key issues like gun control, elements of immigration reform, once she got to the senate. in the past nine years in the senate she's been pretty left-leaning. but the question now for a lot of people who are considering whether to cast their vote for her is what type of candidate

she would be for the country, not just when she's appealing to the constituents here in new york, but what will her tune be when she makes her bigger bid to the rest of the country coming up, andrea. >> and jonathan capehart, her record, as morgan was just saying, in the house, she represented her district, which was a pro-gun district. >> right. >> she replaced hillary clinton in the senate. and then with a lot of support of the clinton team, got to the senate, but then went after bill clinton on the sexual harassment, lewinsky issue, also was a leader of going after al franken which basically doomed him in the senate. but she was a really well-known leader on the armed services committee. she was one of the strongest senators on armed services, going after sexual harassment in the military, really had widespread support among women for that. >> right. that's going to be the one thing that helps her. but you did just hit on two things that are going to be a problem for her, particularly

among democratic party primary voters. it's the senator al franken issue and the bill clinton issue. no matter what we say here in washington about the clintons, when it comes to the democratic party, they are still held in high regard. and she is going to have to explain more fully how it was as a member of congress, a member of the house, she was pro-gun, but then once she went to the sena senate, her views on that sort of diffused. i understand what that's about, when you're in the senate you're representing the entire state, and so her explanation could be, i had wider -- a wider constituency to represent. but those are all things that she now has a full year to talk about, explain, and meet with people to discuss. >> she's a formidable campaigner and fundraiser. she says she will not accept pac money as well, that's becoming -- elizabeth warren has

sort of set the stage for that. mike, we don't know what joe biden is doing, we don't know what a lot of the other senators are doing, but she is absolutely a major player. among the women, elizabeth warren, amy klobuchar standing in the wings. >> that's an important point in terms of the women in the race, obviously a crowded race, we talked about maybe 20 candidates. we'll have kamala harris, tulsi gabbard as well. she nods to her gender as a factor in the race, elizabeth warren, "nevertheless she persisted" is a slogan for her. for kirsten gillibrand, obviously a record number of women candidates ran in 2018, a record number of women in the house. i know she's reached out to new women in the house, freshman members, to begin a courtship there for the delegates. we know the power of women

voters in the democratic primary, a real potential avenue for her. >> jonathan, when you look at the number of women, you have to rank elizabeth warren in terms of name recognition and money. i would say gillibrand and klobuchar are coming close behind in terms of the major women who are probably going to get in. >> yes, but mike just mentioned a potential female -- >> kamala harris. >> yes, kamala harris will be someone who will win a big constituency in the democratic party. african-american women are a big backbone of the party. when slash if she comes into the race, it becomes an interesting -- not only a battle for constituency but a battle of ideas. if you have senator gillibrand who comes in with a very strong record and you have senator harris who comes in with a strong record, both with very strong support in their respective constituencies, that's going to be a really interesting battle to watch.

>> and ultimately i think the real litmus test for a lot of democrats is can you beat donald trump. she's trying to signal with her announcement in a red area in a blue state she represents that she can bring the country together. she needs to convince the rest of the democratic party she can do that as well. coming up, may day. can british prime minister theresa may survive a no confidence vote after her brexit plan got crushed in a humiliating defeat? ♪ [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪ i have... ♪

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and we have new reports now from europe that the european union is examining plans to delay a brexit, the divorce with the u.k., until 2020. giving them about another year. this after the british parliament rejected may's brexit deal by more than 200 votes, the biggest margin of defeat for a prime minister in british history. theresa may's likely escape from losing her job today is only because the opposition party leader jeremy corbin is famously unpopular with both sides. joining me is bill neely in london. fastbreaking events here, but what are the chances now of another referendum? is that the only way out?

>> reporter: no, i don't think you can rule anything out. we had a referendum obviously that was 52-48 for leaving the european union. theresa may noted that today. but she didn't explicitly rule out a second referendum. three quarters of the opposition labor party's m.p.s would like a second referendum. three out of four of britain's prime ministers would like one, too, but it is one of a whole range of options. the future is uncertain. what is certain is that on march the 29th, whether britain strikes a deal or there is no deal, it will leave the european union by law. but as you mentioned at the beginning, there are indications today that the european union may be prepared to move that deadline. now, we knew that they were thinking about it. they had been open to negotiating again next week with theresa may. but according to the times of london, bloomberg and other sources, european union

officials are examining plans to extend the negotiating deadline up to 2020. apparently french and german officials are happy about that. previously there had been talk of extending by three months beyond march the 29th. now it could be right up to the end of this year, and possibly into 2020. so, there is some movement and there will be a little bit more movement in the story in about an hour and 10 minutes when m.p.s, lawmakers behind me in parliament, vote on that motion of no confidence in theresa may's government. as you said, an absolutely historic humiliating defeat last night. theresa may woke up this morning with another fight for survival. every day is a bad day for her, but she is expected to win this vote of no confidence simply because of the parliamentary arithmetic. she has a narrow majority, and that will mean that tomorrow she can begin those discussions with opposition parties and then go

to brussels probably next week to talk to european officials. either way, by monday, she has to come up with a plan b. not with a deal, but with something that will move this forward, andrea, but we are still looking at a very dark future for britain and the complete political mess. >> indeed. bill neely, thanks very much. more ahead. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. with my hepatitis c, i felt i couldn't be at my best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured and left those doubts behind.

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