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good morning, it is thursday, november 14th, i'm yasmin vossoughian. amin is on assignment. it has been quite a 24 hours or so. we begin with that major revelation in the impeachment probe that directly implicated the president in thepr ukraine scandal. it came from ambassador bill taylor,ll who testified alongsi state department official george kent inst the probe's first pubc hearing yesterday. during his opening statement, ambassador taylor testified about a july 26th phone conversation that happened just one day after trump's controversial call with the president of ukraine. watchth this. >> in the presence of my staff, at o a restaurant, ambassador sondland called president trump and told him of his meetings in kiev, and the member of my staff could hear president trump on themp phone asking ambassador sondland about the investigations. ambassador sondland told president trump the ukrainians were ready to move forward. following the call with

president trump, the memberfo o my staff asked ambassador sondland what president trump thought aboutso ukraine. ambassador sondland reporting that president trump cares more about theth investigations of bidenab which giuliani was pressingia for. >> so two sources telling nbc news thatin the aide who overhed the phone call inside that ukrainian restaurant is david holmes, the counsel for politicalho affairs at the u.s. embassyir in ukraine. he is expected to testify behind closed doors tomorrow. president trump was asked about thepr new allegation during a ns conference with turkey's president yesterday. >> i know nothing about that.ab first time i've heard. it butfi one thing i've seen th sondland said was that he did speak to me for a brief moment and i said no quid pro quo under any circumstances. and that's true. the other, i've never heard veis. in any event, it is more secondhand information. butse i've never heard it. >>bu do you recall a conversati with -- >> i don't recall, no, not at all.

not even a little bit. >> and democrats were kbik to weigh in on w taylor's bomb she testify concerning ambassador sondland's phone call with president trump arguing that it meansth the impeachment investigation must continue without any obstacles. >> what this call indicates, as other testimony as likewise has indicated is that instructions are coming from the president on down. i think ambassadoriden taylor m it abundantly clear, when taylor testified that he wanted sondland to push back on trump's demand for these investigations, that is not asking sondland to change his view, it is asking sondland to help change the president's view, the president's demand, and so i think this witness is potentially very important, and of course, we are moving to depose this witness and we have already scheduled the deposition. >> the new revelations show exactly why the investigation must continue unimpeded, so all

the facts come out. and why every senator should not pre-judge until all the facts arepr out. >> during yesterday's hearing, dm deputy assistant secretary george kent testified that president trump's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, was damaging america's relations with ukraine, with quote politically motivated investigations. >> over the course of 2018 and 2019, i became increasingly aware of an effort by rudy giuliani and others, including his associates lev parnas and igor fruman to run a campaign to smear ambassador yovanovitch and other officials in kiev. . i became alarmed as those efforts bore fruit. they led to the ouster of ambassador yovanovitch and hampered efforts to establish rapport with the new zelensky administration in ukraine. in mid august, it became clear to me that rudy giuliani's efforts to gin up political investigations were affecting

u.s. engagement with ukraine. u leveraging president zelensky's desire for a white house meeting. >> the attorneyte representing republicanne lawmakers at the hearingbl attempted to discredi bill taylor's assessment of the shadow foreign policy team working with the trump administration. >> in fairness, this irregular channel of diplomacy, it's not as outlandish as it could be, is that correct? >> it's not as outlandish as it could be, yeah, i agree. >> and the second member of the irregular channel is ambassador sondland, who is senate confirmed, ambassador to the eu, so his involvement here, while not necessarily part of his official duties as the ambassador to the fieu is certainly is not outlandish for him to be interested and engaged pursuant to the president or secretaryte pompeo's direction, correct? >> it's a little unusual for the

u.s. ambassador to the eu to play a role in ukraine policy. >> okay. and it might be irregular but it is certainly not outlandish? >> so republicans at yesterday's hearingan defended president trump, in his dealings with ukraine while chastising the democrats over the impeachment process. watch this. >>tc ambassador taylor, and mr. kent, i'd like to welcome you here. i'd like to graduate you for passing the star chamber admissions held for the last weeks in the basement of the capitol. it seems you agreed wittingly or unwittingly to participate in a drama. but the i main performance, a russia hoax, has ended. and you've been cast in the low rent ukrainian sequel. >> not talking to any country. we're talking ukraine. ernst and young said one of the

three most corrupt countries on the planet and our president said time-out, time-out, let's check out this new guy, let's see if zelensky is the real deal. president trump said let's just seede if he's legit. so for 55 days, he checked him out. >> in this impeachment hearing today, where we impeach president force treason or bribery or other high crimes, where is the impeachable offense in that call? are either of you here today to assert there was an impeachable offense in that call? shout it out. anyone? >> so gop lawmakers also argued that the evidence provided in witness testimony largely amounts to hear say. watch this. >> officials alarmed at the president's action was typically baseden on secondhand, third ha, and even fourth-hand rumors, and innuendo. >> ambassador taylor recalls that mr. morrison told mr. taylor that i talked about this

with a meeting with president zelensky. we have six people having four conversations in one sentence. and you just told me this is where you gotan your clear understanding. >> we're not in a court, gentlemen. if we were, the sixth amendment would apply and so would rules on hear say and opinion and most of your two opinions would not be medicalns whatsoever. >> president zelensky confirmed there was no pressure, there were no condition, there were no threats, on military aid, there werery no conditions or pressur to investigation burisma. or the 2016 election. that there was no blackmail. that there was no corruption of any kind during the july 25th call. unlike the first 45 minutes that we heard from the democrats, today, that's not secondhand information. it's not hearsay. it is not what someone overheard ambassador sondland say. >> over the next few weeks we will have more witnesses that we've had today that the democrats will parade in here and they will say so-and-so said such and such to so-and-so and therefore, and we got to impeach

the president. >> let's talk about some of this. and joining me on the set, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos and with us from washington, congressional reporter for the daily beast, sam brody. sam, good morning to you. i want to discuss some of your major take-aways first and foremost from the first day of thef public impeachment inquir hears and also this new information included in ambassador taylor's testimony with regards to this phone call between the president and gordon sondland, in this ukrainian restaurant. >> yes, i think it is going to be here this morning, few people including somefe of the lawmake i spoke with were surprised that bill taylori would show up and ultimately drop a really new piece of information that isn't necessarily a game changer, but really has a significant impact on themp case that democrats ar trying to make here. he tooifed another person with apparently first, he identified another person with apparently firsthand knowledge of the president'sfi direct involvemen

in a plan to get ukraine to investigate his political rivals.in that person, bill taylor's aide is going to come in on friday, for a closed door deposition with impeachment investigators. so that's a really big deal. and you know, you just heard congressman jim jordan and other republicans during that hearing yesterday, lay out one of their big elementsye of their defense which is this is all secondhand, thirdhand, fourthhand, there was a moment in the hearing where he kind of drew out one of those examples, talked really fast, and started just theatrically broughtca it out to make his pot and bill taylor just identified a person who was there and he could speak to some of this firsthand and then of course nextfi week, gordon sondland whe central in all of this is going to come in, likely, and give his firsthand testimony. so, go ahead. >> go ahead. >>, go ahead, continue. >> just that this this is, this piece of information really is

goingpi to bolster democrats against this notion that somehow this is all kind of, you know, second, third, fourth-hand knowledge that is fueling their impeachment inquiry. >> danny, sam makes a really good point, there and i want to get to thean republicans defens of all of this inge a moment bui want to concentrate first on this phone callwa that i just brought up that bill taylor identified just yesterday. he didn't identify in that deposition the closed door deposition that he gavede but i was just yesterdaypo that he identified this. you haveti the president denyin any knowledge of this phone call. denying any knowledge of this phone call it connects the president to how close he could have been to this scheme to ukraine. how does this further implicate the president, if in fact this phone call did take place? >> before there was evidence of this phone call, the president's defense was developing into really two major prongs. and is' very typical of this,

it's very typical of this president. and to all things that happened with other people, his defense was i don't know nothing, i don't know nothing about that, i have no knowledge about that, i don't even know that guy, and then, as to the four corners of the statement, or memorandum, or tran script, or whatever you want to call it, that he essentially adopted, he is on the hook for whatever words are in that statement. . so his approach is going to be, and we've heard it, that part, that's a perfect statement. because those are my words. but everything else, i don't know nothing about that. this phone call changes everything. because now, you have evidence of a persipient witness, someone on the call asking about the corruption investigation. >> this is no longer hearsay. through another person. this is a person who was in the room and overheard the phone call between sondland and the president. >> and it changes the theory of defense, and i don't know anybody else and my statement is the only thing i know and that is fine. and shy add when we talk about

hearsay, hear say is a rule of evidence, it applies in court, an even then, as someone who tries cases, it almost never applies. there are so many exceptions, they swallow the rule. and in this case, one of the exceptions would swallow the rule, because we're not asking for people to believe the actual truth of what the president said on a call, instead look at the effect that it had on everybody, and when the president makes a call, it has a wide-reaching effect. >> sam, i quickly want to get to the republicans pushback, as you saw, as we saw a little bit earlier, from yesterday, we have heard hearsay over and over again, we have heard that defense a lot. this new defense from jim jordan which we heard which is basically trying to see the president basically vetting the president of ukraine for 52 days or so, and this is kind of this new defense, trying to make sure he was actually legit, that's not necessarily something that we heard before. do you think that that pushback, that defense, was effective in

overall the republicans pushback yesterday? >> yes, no, you're totally right, that was new from congressman jordan, i think it is a sign that republicans feel that as this develops, they are going to need to come up with some new points of defense that could possibly resonate with people that they're trying to reach here in the middle who are trying to figure out what to make of all of this. you know, i think it is something that sounded good in the hearing but if you go back to some of the notes of the depositions, for example, laura cooper who is an official at the pentagon, testified in front of investigators that, you know, d.o.d., which was responsible for giving out, you know, $200 million of this security aid, had their own process for vetting whether or not they should give ukraine this aid, based on corruption concerns. this was a process that they had, so during this point, that the president just needed to figure it out, you know, officials had doing that for months. >> danny cevallos, thank you. sam brodey as well, thank you. we will talk to you again in a little bit. still ahead, president trump

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welcome back. the "washington post" is reporting that a federal appeals court order indicated yesterday that congress can now seek eight years worth of the president's tax records. the court order comes on the same day the house held its first public impeachment hearing. in response to trump's request to have a panel of judges re-hear last month's three-judge decision to dismiss his lawsuit to block lawmakers from subpoenaing his accounting firm, the u.s. court of appeal force the district of columbia let the earlier ruling stand, confirming congress's investigative authority, trump's lawyer jay sekulow responded to yesterday's

decision saying that the president's legal team quote will be seeking review and the supreme court. and since his heart attack, last month, senator bernie sanders says he is living a totally different campaign lifestyle, changing his diet, his workout routine, and even his wardrobe. sanders who used to frequent outback steakhouse on the campaign trail has opted for more nutritious options like grilled fish and a soup and a salad according to the "new york times," the reporting says sanders has also been more active, frequently asking staffers to schedule times for walks at campaign stops, and the vermont senator even switched up his look, some allies have urged him to maybe tame his signature unkept hair and to dress better. he has been seen sport more stylish sweaters, even with these changes, following his health scare, sanders and advisers are acutely aware he is under more scrutiny than ever and will release his health records bit end of the year. let's get a check of the

weather with bill karins. >> the occasional blooming onion. not a bunch in a row. okay. so let's get into this forecast this morning. still layering in the northeast, we broke the record low, and the arctic air mass left but not like yesterday. records from texas all the way to the northeast yesterday. there was easily over 100. we're still trying to add up how many exactly. 30 in new york. the record is 20. we're warmer but not warm. and dc, 29 this morning. buffalo at 30. and today will feel a little better this afternoon. let's go to the next weather story. not a bad one, it is just going to rain out some people's weekend plan, especially our friends in the southeast, coastal areas of the carolinas down to georgia, and a chilly light rain over areas moving on to the texas shore, and louisiana, and straight through mississippi, and there may be a tiny bit of wintry precipitation here, you have to look outside, if you're in between jackson and montgomery on the border of alabama and mississippi, our radar is showing up some snowflakes on the map there. who knows. take a look outside and maybe see some rare snow. the forecast travel impacts on

friday, minor airport problem, charlotte all the way down to orlando, orlando, again, delays shouldn't be cancellations and anyone driving the roads in these spots. the weekend forecast, in the rainy weather, it lingers, it is going to be ugly from the outer banks through jacksonville, to wilmington, and myrtle beach, included, and we may be get some minor coastal flooding too, and into saturday, we continue with the rainy, windy weather here, and if you're in the northeast and new england, it is sunny but saturday morning, is going to be cold of the wind chill will be down there in the teens. so yasmin, bottom line, nothing too horrendous this upcoming weekend, we are done with the arctic blast but southeast coast, not ideal. >> thank you, bill. still ahead, we have a lot to talk about when it comes to president trump's meeting with the president of turkey yesterday. despite turkey's offensive in northern syria, president trump said he believes president erdogan has a quote great relationship with the kurds. that story and more coming up. that story and more coming up. these days, we're all stressed. (honk!) i hear you sister. that's why i'm partnering with cigna to remind you to go in for your annual check-up,

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>> thank you very much. and i will say that we've had a great relationship with the kurds. and we fought with them very successfully against isis, we fought together, we had, we have great generals and we have great equipment, and it certainly helped a lot. but we were very, very successful. and we captured, as i said before, 100%, i was going to, when we were at 97%, i was going to say, well, that sounds pretty high to me, and i was thinking about stopping at that, and a lot of people said, please go to 100. and very quickly, very rapidly, the military got the 100. i wanted to have that. but we have a great relationship with the kurds. we have had, we're with them now, we get along with them, and by the way, i think the president, he may have some factions within the kurds, but i think the president has a great relationship with the kurd, many occurreds live currently in turkey, kurds live currently in turkey and they're happy and

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so here's the deal. trump didn't know nothing about the pressure to investigate biden. but today, taylor said this. >> last friday, a member of my staff told me of events that occurred on july 26th, in the presence of my staff, at a restaurant, ambassador sondland called president trump and told him of his meetings in kiev. and the member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador sondland about the investigations. >> so this staffer overheard trump asking about a foreign nation investigating his political opponent. that's like if they had a picture of nixon breaking into the watergate. schiff followed up on the overheard phone call. >> and as your staff related the event to you, your staff member could over hear mr. sondland on

the phone, co overhear the president on the phone with mr. sondland, is that right? >> that's correct. >> so the president must have been speaking loud enough on the phone, this was a cell phone i take it. >> it was a cell phone. >> the president must have been speaking loud enough for your staff member to be able to overhear this. >> it was. >> okay. this is very sensitive information. i want ukraine to investigate my political opponent. wait a minute. am i on speaker phone? why not? i want the waiter to hear this. i would like dirt on joe biden and fully-loaded nachos. >> the impeachment hearing is where we begin this half hour. welcome back, everyone. i'm yasmin vossoughian. amin is on assignment. during yesterday's hearing, ambassador bill taylor tied acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney to the quote irregular diplomacy team actively working between washington and ukraine.

the group that was spearheaded by president trump's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, also included, as you see here, european union ambassador gordon sondland, former special envoy kurt volker and secretary of energy rick perry. >> i encountered an irregular informal channel of u.s. policy making with respect to ukraine. unaccountable to congress. a channel that included then special envoy kurt volker, u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland. rick perry, white house chief of staff, mick mulvaney and as i subsequently learned, mr. giuliani. >> so interestingly, this is the first time that mulvaney was actually mentioned as part of the group within the trump administration working on ukraine policy arms. now republicans argue that ukraine ultimately received u.s. security assistance without carrying out investigations desired by the president, one

exchange during yesterday's hearing highlights that the aid was only released after the white house came under scrutiny. >> my colleagues also say that the hold on u.s. security assistance was lifted on september 11th without any investigations happening on the part of the ukrainians and therefore everything ended up fine in the end. however, mr. kent, as you know, the house intelligence, foreign affairs, and oversight committees, began this current investigation leading to the proceedings today, on september 9th. in fact, it was only two days after this particular set of committees began their investigations that the trump administration eventually released the military aid, correct? >> that is the time line, yes. >> so democratic congressman peter welch quickly shut down republican congressman jim jordan why he questioned why the

whistle-blower would not come forward and testify. >> there is one witness, one witness that they won't bring in front of us, they won't bring in front of the american people, and that's the guy who started it all. the whistle-blower. >> can i say to my colleague, i'd be glad to have the person who started it all come in and testify. president trump is welcome to take a seat right there. >> what a moment. it gained so much traction online that jim jordan became the second most trending topic on twitter only behind hashtag impeachment hears and the rebuke earned its own catchphrase, getting welched. >> president trump took to twitter to declare that the two senior foreign policy officials testifying were quote never trumpers. well, yesterday, both bill taylor and george kent were able to directly address their status on the matter when asked by congressman eric swalwell of california.

>> mr. kent, are you a never trumper? >> i am a career nonprofessional who serves whatever president is duly elected and carries out the foreign policies of that president in the united states and i've done that for 27 years for three republican presidents and two democrat presidents. >> ambassador taylor, are you a never trumper. >> no, sir. >> president trump weighed in on the hearing on twitter and quoted evang litch franklin graham calling this a time of shame for our country and adding that quote the democrats know what they're doing is wrong. >> speaking to reporters yesterday. the president said he didn't watch any of the hearing. >> did you watch the hearing today? >> no, i didn't. i did not watch it. i'm too busy to watch it. it's a witch hunt. it's hoax. i'm too busy to watch it. >> are you talking about the witch hunt? i hear it's a joke. i haven't watched. i haven't watched for one minute because i have been with the president which is much more important as far as i'm concerned. this is a sham. and shouldn't be allowed.

>> i'm pretty sure he knows what they're talking about. while president trump claimed not to have watched yesterday's hearings, trump actually tweeted and retweeted complaints about the inquiry more than 30 times by late afternoon and could not resist taking a swipe at intel committee chair adam schiff. according to nbc news, multiple sources in and around the white house are reacting to yesterday's hearing, with a sigh of relief. the consensus so far, was that ambassador bill taylor was credible but the testimony probably did not move the needle for most republicans. one person close to the white house said quote this, not one senate vote was changed. back us with, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos and congressional reporter from washington for the daily beast sam brodey. sam, i will start with you, danny, i will start with you since you're in the chair sitting next to me. i want to get your overall take and whether there was any needle moved despite the white house says they don't think so. >> probably not because the

republicans stuck to some of the core themes which were sometimes inconsistent. when you defend a case, you can throw out different alternative theories but sometimes they can be confusing. republicans didn't stick to a consistent theme. instead, they have jumped around from ukraine is very corrupt, burisma is very corrupt, corruption needs to investigated, to something inconsistent which is oh, none of you are credible anyway, we don't believe what you said, not because you're bad people, there is no question these witnesses had plenty of integrity and character, but instead, they were relying on double, triple, even quadruple hearsay, which while it is not a rule of evidence in this hearing, it is just inherently unreliable. so the republicans had several different themes that they all threw against the wall, some may have stuck, it may not have moved the needle ultimately. >> sam, i want to talk a bit about the whistle-blower, jim jordan leading up once again that he wants the whistle-blower to testify which is sounding to me, when you know that jim jordan knows the protections in

place, for someone like the whistle-blower, there is that, there is also the fact that both of those witnesses have corroborated the whistle-blower's story without any testimony from the whistle-blower. >> right, i mean and this has been what we've heard from republicans for week, and i think it's important to view the whistle-blower and those arguments around the whistle-blower as kind of the republican skeleton key to somehow discredit this process. they've been talking about process for the last few weeks, have been comfortable with that, they point to the whistle-blower and say look, this is an anonymous person, who came forward, we don't know them, we don't know what their motivations are, and started this whole thing. and as you point out, obviously, there's several people who have corroborated elements, and you know, they don't need to hear from the whistle-blower for any kind of fact-based inquiry. what republicans want is focus on the whistle-blower, so that they can draw attention away from the substance really and draw attention to who is this

person, what are their motivations, because they view that as a way to, in the minds of the public, discredit the inquiry, which is their goal. >> what do you make of the republican defense that at the end of the day, ukraine got the aid that they wanted, and no investigation was subsequently launched? end of story. >> not good. at least from a criminal legal perspective. because it ignores the law of attempt. what we call incomplete crimes. the mother fact that the crime may not have been completed, that the aid was not held up, doesn't necessarily mean that a crime wasn't committed. it's the threat. and even from the four corners of the memorandum that we have all read and seen released, there is arguably an implicit threat in there, to withhold aid, or to demand something, and sometimes, in criminal law, the threat to, whether it be withhold aid or do something bad can be implied from the circumstances. hey, that's a real nice restaurant you have there, it would be a shame if it caught

fire, and the implicit threat there is that if you don't pay some money or do something to pay off these corrupt people, then something bad will happen. and if you do what's asked of you, the bad thing doesn't happen. so that theory, that the bad thing, the withholding of aid never happened, isn't going to carry much water. it carries a little but it really ultimately ignores the law of attempt. >> and quickly, sam, while i have you, what do you expect will be happen when we hear from marie yovanovitch tomorrow. >> yovanovitch will offer a different take on all of this than some of the other witnesses, she wasn't around for the july 25th call, and the aftermath, but what she can really speak to is we talk a lot about the irregular policy channel. she really represents the regular policy channel, can speak to what the sort of bipartisan policy consensus with respect to ukraine was, before rudy giuliani and these folks came in, trying to implement a certain agenda. so that's going to kind of

provide, for democrats, this is what used to be the case, and why it was agreed upon by everybody, but also, you know, she is synthetic here. she was railroaded from her post by a group of people who are peddling debunked information, and that is going to allow democrats to kind of point to somebody who really paid the price for this campaign beyond some of the other things that we've been talking about. >> appreciate it. thank you both. still ahead, new developments on two of the democrats considering a late entry into the presidential race. we are told one has made up his mind while the other is dropping hints about his potential strategy. we will be back in a moment. ...depend® silhouette™ briefs feature maximum absorbency, beautiful colors and an improved fit for a sleek design and personal style. life's better when you're in it. be there with depend®.

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the year but 13 degrees warmer. down along the gulf coast, not only still chilly but cloudy and we've got some light rain and drizzle over the area. and i was looking at report of freezing rain or snow in mississippi and alabama, there are echoes reporting now, with the echoes, when it falls out of the clouds and the radar hits you, we call that an echo, and it is reporting on the radar but we don't know if that is quit hitting the ground. regardless, a chilly rain, along the texas coast that spreads through the southeast. tampa and jacksonville, florida, tallahassee, gainsville, it slides up into the carolinas, it is going to be a wet, cool, raw friday all along the southeast coastal areas here. anyone driving along i-95, be prepared for that. it will be a very chilly, even saturday, because this storm sits here and stalls. not like we're going to deal with a lot of damage or anything. but it will be windy. it will be minor beach erosion problems. that's about it. rainfall totals anywhere between one to three inches for coastal locations. along with thoeft gusty winds.

notice atlanta, charlotte, ral raleigh, not the heavy rain but cloudy and cool. forecast, cooler but much better, and yesterday it was in the 30s. and today in the 40s for the big cities in the northeast. we're still chilly with the next cold shot coming down from minneapolis to chicago. by the time we get to tomorrow, a rather cold saturday. enjoy your friday afternoon. 50s going to feel pretty warm in many areas of the northeast all the way down through atlanta. >> thank you, bill. still ahead, a google checking account, we get the latest reporting on the tech company's latest endeavor, plus axios takes inside yesterday's impeachment hearing with interesting nuggets you didn't see on tv. the first look at "morning joe," back in a moment. using my old spice moisturize with shea butter body wash... all i wanted was to use your body wash and all i wanted was to have a body wash.

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welcome back. time now for business. google is now looking to jump into the banking business and the fed chair is pushing back at the president's repeated calls to slash interest rates into negative territory. villain marx is joining us live from london. good morning to you. want to start of course with the president's main ire, jerome powell, someone he consistently attacks and what he told lawmakers just yesterday. talk to us about what you know. >> so he was up on the hill for the first of two days of testimony. he talked for more than an hour. he talked about the idea that the u.s. interest rates will be kept where they are right now. he said that they are, quote, likely to remain appropriate

where they are now so long as economic data is consistent with the current outlook. he talked about the fact that the outlook remains favorable. he said that he expects the u.s. will see sustained economic reaction and he pushed back on using negative interest rates, something that president trump earlier this week had called for. you mentioned that development, google get being into banking. it's the latest example of big tech getting into that banking space. we've seen it with apple and facebook to some extent. google looking to get into the current account state. bit of a bold move. what's interesting to see is the reaction from consumers. more and more people getting concerned about handing over personal data to these big tech firms. >> all right. thank you. great seeing you. coming up next, a look at axios's oning i big thing. and coming up on "morning joe," the key moments and revelations from yesterday's pooeimpeachmen

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>> announcer: axios one big thing is sponsored by bp. welcome back. joining us from washington, we want to look at axios a.m., political reporter for axios, alexei. good morning to you. >> good morning. you're solo today. >> i am solo today. it has been quite a 24 hours or so. talk to mow about axios's one big thing today. >> an oval office meeting yesterday that took place between president trump, a small group of republican senators, and turkey's president erdogan took a dark turn yesterday when the turkish president whipped out an ipad and made the group of folks in that meeting watch a propaganda video that depicted the kurds as terrorists. according to three people

familiar with this situation who told axios this information. and all that matters, because the five republican senators who were included in this meeting are some of the folks who have been some of the most vocal critics of turkey's invasion of syria as well as its attacks on the u.s. kurdish allies on the fight against isis. those included senator rick scott of florida, lindsey graham of south carolina, among others. >> that we heard them say that the president was a big fan of erdogan and he just saw it from the president himself. >> that's right. i saw you covering that earlier in this hour and i thought exactly what you just said, that the president's statement on this issue is empa threat cal to the reporting that we have. before you it matches from what we have inside the room. all the republican senators in this meeting took their turns pushing back against president erdogan, whereas trump only intervened in a way that was more like a traffic cop as one

sort of described it. and we also confirmed with senator lindsey graham via phone conversation last night that he clashed with erdogan in the oval office yesterday, pushing back on this claim that the turkish president made that turkey has been leading in the fight against isis and he also took issue with the way the kurds have been treated. >> axios is covering impeachment hearings in a different way than how they're being covered on cable news. talk to us about this new reporting. >> you don't have to look too far on cable news to see the echo chambers that are being created around the impeachment public hearings. w we've seen the way the left will cover it saying it was damning for president trump and ties him closer to the ukraine scandal. but then if you look on the right, fox news and other publications online and the way that conservative media is covering it by doubling down on the questions by jim jordan and devin nunes who they claim crush

democrats main rmts arguments i of this. and when you look at what these all create is an opportunity where there are few opportunities to present conflicting information and will make them more difficult to stick with voters and people who are watching because of the polarization of the way it's being covered. >> you have some reporting of what it was like inside that room during yesterday's hearing. pretty tense i can imagine? >> it was tense. it was also an interesting case in which there were a number of people who were dozing off during the second half of the hearing because it went so long. there were err number of seats that were left vacant who were not there. many republican members who weren't on committees actually senate to hear it than democratic members. there were four massive tv screens that showed text message exchanges between witnesses, a match ukraine, various excerpts from president trump's call with

the ukrainian president all as a way to provide visual aids to the folks in that room. a tense meeting but it felt like people were kind of losing energy even among the members on the committee. >> wow. thank you as always. we're going to be reading axios a.m. in a bit. you too can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me. "morning joe" starts right now. i think that william taylor was a very impressive witness and was very damaging to the president. first of all, as you pointed out, he took very copious notes at almost every conversation when he put quotes in his opening statement, he said those were direct quotes from what was said. it also doesn't hurt that he has a voice like edward r. burrow, so he's a pretty impressive presence up there and very nonpolitical. he went out of his way to talk about what he kn