♪ welcome to "kasie d.c. "responseible for the deaths of hundreds of americans. but what will iran do in response? now iraq wants american troops out, as thousands more to the region. and i'll talk to republican congressman and former cia officer, will hurd, about how little we know about intelligence. and talk to representative

maxine waters. and in iowa, democrats use iran to cast doubt on judgment. we have new reporting as polling shows the race tightening in the closing days. we're going to open tonight with the fragile state of affairs in the middle east, defined by contradictions. iran no longer restricting youranium enrichment or research and development. thousands of american military personnel are headed to the middle east on the same day iran's parliament voted to expel u.s. forces. thousands took to the streets in solidarity and mourning at a time when iran-been politically divided. at the same time there's been mixed messaging whether this is an attempt to deescalate or intensify pressure.

and whether americans are safer or at higher risk given the warnings to leave iraq and from homeland security department? and the secretary of state sought to iron some of this out this morning but offered little evidence beyond what we already know. >> we would have been culpably negligence-we not taken this strike. >> are were the attack soez big and imminent it would have been at the kind of negligence? >> made the right decision. the death of the american on december 27th. and the president made the right decision. >> how imminent were they? days, weeks? >> you're an american in the region, days and weeks, this is not relevant. we have to be prepared and ready.

and we took a bad guy off the battle field. >> in kenya al-shabaab killed people at a facility shared with the kennian military. the co anchor and associate editor and msnbc contributor and an msnbc national security analyst, jeremy bash. and news executive, shauna thomas, who i'm happy to announce has been named an msnbc contributor. we're thrilled to have you back to the nbc news family. >> thank you as well. >> the news never stops. i've missed everything and nothing at all. let me start with you on this conversation about iran. the latest reporting.

i've been reading emails all day long about what the state of play is. clearly our allies in the middle east are vested in figuring out what happens next. what do you know tonight? >> let me give you a quick update on the diplomatic updates. from a few different sources, there's been a tremendous amount of pressure to escalate with americans as well as the iraqi prime minister calling for the expulsion of american forces from there. we know the saudis have been trying to work their backder contacts and the king himself called the prime minister. all in an effort to try and deescalate the situation. but we know at the did not happen. you-the foreign minister yesterday in teheran meeting with his counterpart to try and get a sense of where the iranian thinking on all of this was.

the saudi defense minister is arriving in washington. he is holding high-level meetings today and the day after with all members of the american government. and already they've been reaching out to all of the allies in the region to quell tensions. right now, as america's trying to do at the, and mike pompeo goes on all the networks, the reality is tensions continue to escalate. as you mentioned there in other areas, including the horn of africa with the latest attack on u.s. service members there. the situation on the ground remains tense because everybody is waiting to see what happens next. iran is in a state of mourning the next couple of days. red banners, the symbols of revenge have been flown on iran's mosques and

demonstrations and funerals. so the mindset is an escalation is inevitable. the timing and scope of how at the may look remains donetermined. >> you tweeted earlier today, and it stood out to us, an eery feeling reading this news, reminiscent of when the u.s. invaded iraq in 2003 to top albrutal dictator and set in motion of a chain of consequences for which america was utterly unprepared. how do you see this ending? >> i can't give you a good answer. the lack of clear strategy has been a concern about trump administration, iran policy for more than two years. and it's especially true as we think about the killing of qassim suleimani. hard not to think he deserved

his fate after so many attacks on americans. it's hard for me to defend the statement at the world is safer for americans today after the attack at the killed suleimani. the iraqi parliament has voted to expel american troops. our troops in iraq and elsewhere have essentially stood down from the fight against isis, announcing at the campaign is going to stop. we're not training the iraqi security forces anymore. iran announced it was suspending its cooperation with the nuclear agreement. so lin these different ways, i have this terrible feeling at the qassim suleimani, on the other side of martyrdom, as he would call it, is thinking of his goals for iran are being achieved; at the american interests are under attack.

>> do you think it was essentially inevitable? or not? >> i sometimes think at the. and that's part of what i wanted to say in my tweet and what i wrote this morning. it's been, in some ways, been coming at us for 40 years. the iran hostage taking. since the revolution itself, we've been moving in slow motion towards war. i've written so many times we were close to war, on the brink of war. now it really seems to be here and iran is a problem that the united states, since 1979, since the revolution, simply hasn't found a way to solve. we've found different ways, talking to them, making deals with them, attacking them and nothing seems to work. >> what's your view from more tactical perspective?

we know it's something every administration has dealt with in different ways, been challenged by. at the end of the day f this sets off the chain of events, we think it could, trump administration is going to shoulder at the responsibility. do you think there is solid evidence at the this attack, they say is imminent, was? >> i remember ten years ago being in a senior government meeting in which the question was posed what would happen if qassim suleimani was neutralized and taken off the battle field? my question is why now? i think the answer lies in what's happened the last six months. president trump called off a proportional military response. and clearly the iranians felt emboldened. then they attack saudi arabia brazenly.

crickets from washington. we open the door for turkey to invade syria. again, iran is emboldened in syria. i think the last six months have been of weakness, vasilation and abandonment and now we have to over rotate with an extremely escluatory move at the was not precipitated by anything we know is necessary. >> how do we calibrate what the response is going to be? losing suleimani is a blow for iran and too, some extent, limit their ability to respond because he was the mastermind of their foreign operations. on the other hand, we know three consequential things have happened at the make america and the allies in the region less safe. the pulling out of the iran nuclear deal.

the voting to throw american forces out. and the fact they're no longer training iraqi forces to take on the attack against isis. we have been reporting for the last few weeks at the isis is resurgeant in northern iraq. now, along side the american forces, uk forces are no longer training. so isis, has to some extent, give an free pass in northern iraq. at the can't be good for american interests and allies in the region. >> i assume over the years people have said hey, can we take out this general? they decided not to because there was not enough of a coalition, other partners. but in this case we have now gone on our own to do something and we have already pissed off so many other countries who were our allies. so now the iran deal has totally fallen apart. so the european allies are

wondering how do we contain iran and we don't really have any friends in this right now. >> if the intelligence is there, and it should be shared in some way with the american public, if the intelligence is there there was a massive, imminent attack and neutralizing him now was necessary to stop it, i think we could agree it was potentially justified and smart. but without at the intelligence, it's hard to make at the claim. >> i'm interested in your take, david. why do you think they suddenly trust the intelligence community? >> it's a great question, kasie and the administration, on the networks said the intelligence community said the risk of doing nothing outweighed the risk of doing nothing. the intelligence community doesn't speak in at the way.

at the is a false characterization of what the intelligence community laid forth. we need see what they produced. >> i've done my own reporting. and the president was presented with a series of options after the attack on baghdad embassy. and one of those was a strike against suleimani. i think it is accurate to say at the our military leadership was surprised at the the president chose it. it's not as if this is what they were recommending. and as jeremy says, this has come up repeatedly. and again and again the answer has been the risks are not matched by the potential benefits. i fear we're seeing at the analysis now playing out in fact. >> the question of whether there was an imminent strike, the

problem with this administration is it hasn't been particularly candid with its foreign policy options. so when it says to the world we-evidence there was a strike imminent, there's doubt at the they can trust what the white house is saying. and so if you have a background not always telling the truth -- this is where it comes back to hurt you. >> small point. they have a real need to get confidence to the american public and allies. if there is such intelligence, it's so sensitive it could limit our ability to get it. they may not feel they can disclose the information. >> quick last word to you here. what's the next thing here? what are you looking for in term oc s of the iranian response?

and how we do or don't share at the with our allies? >> by a lot of people's akountsz, the anticipation is iran is going to respond. the iranian ambassador told msnbc at the iran is not going to target american civilians but left the door open on all other possibilities at the may exist and iran is likely to respond by the end of the year. americans are heading to an election season. there could be a possibility donald trump is not reelected. the iranians are going to make a statement to this administration. so there is analysis by some in the region at the an attack should be taken place in the next year. it does keep the situation extremely tense for everybody across the middle east this evening. >> thank you so much, sir, for your reporting. and for holding down the report. i really appreciate at the.

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calls between president trump and president zelensky. this has been a great time for me to be here. >> well, almost. almost everything. >> following the call with president trump the member of my staff asked ambassador sondland what president trump thought about ukraine. mr. sondland responded at the president trump cares more about the investigations of biden, which giuliani was pressing for. >> huh. anyway, this all comes as congress prepares to come back next week with the senate impeachment trial still up in the air. like i said i hardly miss anything the past four months. shauna, let's start with senator lindsey graham, who, of course, was on the shows today talking about what happens next. let's take a look at what he urged the senate majority leader to do if, in fact, they don't

get those articles. >> the founders never envisioned you'd have a speaker do something like this, with hold the articles, demanding the senate bend to her will. i hope she sends them over soon, so we can get on with the trial. if not, i would urge my colleagues to change the rules of the senate so we could proceed to the trial without nancy pelosi be nothiing involv. my goal is to start the trial in the next coming days and not nangsy pelosi take over the senate. >> so how does this play out? sources at standoff. there is a certain level of expectation to speak with. >> nobody knows. and we went into christmas not knowing. we know the ball was in pelosi's court. but we also know how this is going to end. in some ways i feel like does this conversation actually

matter? the house did what they needed to do. they impeached the president of the united states. they created a historical record. that's what the democrat wanted. whether the trial happens or not, she doesn't get a say in how it looks, actually. so she can hold the articles and the senate will go butd their business and talk about iran. but -- and i've been thinking about this a lot. i don't see how she gets mcconnell to do what she wants. i think senator graham is in some ways right. not about changing the rules every time you're mad about something. but this is senator mcconnell's deal now. >> this is a much different senate than others we have seen. they started with a clinton trial vote 100-0. never going to happen in today's universe. but do you think at the there is

something to gain from schumer and pelosi holding back and potentially never sending over these articles? >> i wouldn't say never sending them over. but it's clear from the frustration of lindsey graham at the the republicans just are from the,ed by pelosi. they want to get on with it. they were rolling on this is a witchhunt, outrages. and then all the sudden they were stopped. and i think the issue at the we should focus on is whether, as chuck schumer said today on television, there are four republicans willing to join the democrats in saying we want witnesses. we want aspects of an impartial process of trial, the opposite of what mcconnell seems to be talking about. and if at the happens -- >> it's not impartial. >> we know how this is going to turn out. but if it looks like a trial, that's rrt a different outcome

than a quick, slam, bang, partisan bon fire we were expecting. >> and if you did have a process in which pompeo testified or mulvaney or john bolton testified, perhaps at the does sway those republican whose are in difficult seats to change the way they're going to vote in the long run. a slim chance but clearly what they're aiming to get and hoping at the, by delaying, they have a chance to build pressure on those republicans to say can you vote with us in changing the rules? >> and my sources are saying republicans are looking at republican voters. they're not looking at anything else. and the argument from the leadership to these four senators possibly on the fence is if you don't win those votes, you're lost regards all of what happens in your race. do you think that's an argument

ultimately susan collins, murkowski are going to buy? >> i think the senate has a constitutional liability here. i think they are the triers of fact. the house impeached the. only the third president to be impeached. this is extremely significant. we have no playbook for this and now the senate have to hear as much evidence as possible and they have to rend arfair virkt. this doesn't happen every day. not just another political calculus. so i think the more information the better and threat chips fall where they may. >> and of course just weeks before the iowa caucus. jeremy bash, shauna thomas, thank you all so much for your reporting and insights. a new poll shows him at the top

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welcome back. the idea of bombing iran has long been fodder on the campaign trail. >> when do we send them an air mail message to teheran? at the old beach boys song "bomaran." >> vice president joe biden was added to the obama ticket to deepen the then freshman senator's foreign policy. but in his memoir, defense secretary gates said i think biden has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades. this weekend in iowa, the top tier of candidates are campaigning on biden's record.

nbc news correspondent is on the campaign trail in iowa. mike, it's good to see you. you've been work pg as hard as anybody out there over the holiday season and on the road. and this, obviously, has taken a significant turn. the biden team looking to capitalize on it. >> reporter: absolutely, kasie and welcome back. you're back just in time because with 29 days until the iowa caucuses, the candidates are nearly tripping over each other. suddenly foreign policy has emerged as a frontburner issue. call it a january surprise. but could it be a caucus curveball? for months battling it out on health care, immigration and climate are facing the very real possibility of war time election. >> more dangerous because of this president.

>> this is a major, major, major event. >> we are in a state of war. >> reporter: and a potential opportunity. the former vice president. >> i told you in the beginning it's front and center issue from the beginning. 2004 when iowa voters-a veteran senator to take on a war time veteran. >> if george bush wants to make this the national issue of the campaign, i have three words for him. we know he understands. bring it on. >> but other contenders see a chance to channel 2008. barack obama used his opposition to the iraq war. >> i was opposed to iraq from the start. the next president has to show is the kind of judgment at the will insure at the we are using

our military power wisely. >> reporter: and now pete buttigieg taking a play from the president's playbook. >> this is about experience and judgment and approach. >> reporter: elizabeth warren tells me she's focussed on president trump. >> this administration just keeps telling a lot of different stories, like they did in ukraine. >> reporter: can you win a foreign policy debate against joe biden? >> i will put my judgment on the line against donald trump, which is what matters most. >> when i voted against the war in iraq in 2002 i feared at the it would result in greater destabilization. at the fear has unfortunately turned out to be a truth. >> reporter: are you going to use this moment to question your judgment on iraq? bernie sanders, in particular, talking about how he was right and you were wrong.

>> i don't respond to bernie. bernie's gaurt enough baggage. >> reporter: kasie, the enemy of any campaign is the unknown, the unforeseen. we already had the uncertainty. you saw john kerry in at the package. guess who's coming to iowa this week to campaign for joe biden? john kerry. expect iran will be high topic for him. >> it all comes full circle. following all of your updates with interest. thank you again. it's great to see you, my friend. you've been on the trail as well. i've been digging into this with sources over the past few days, the biden campaign does seem to believe the experience argument is the winning one against the rest of the field. my question is how much does the democratic primary electorate

potentially punish him for the iraq war vote? >> i'm heading to iowa and it's something i'm interested in asking voters. even before this latest series of international events has been he's the calm, steady person in the field. at the he has this lengthy experience in washington. they're banking on at the to carry them through. they're seeing good signs. and their hope is depending on what chapter we see next is they'll see he's sbun with experience to win a foreign policy debate against president trump and who can restore. >> what's your sense of how the argument is going to cut? because the reality is biden does bring more foreign policy experience than almost anyone else in the field can argue they have. >> elizabeth sanders and bernie sanders whose campaigns are

focussed more on domestic issues. it's pretty slim compared to the body of joe biden being in the room, making those decisions on crit critical, national security issues. i think the culmination of joe biden and john kerry on the campaign trail in iowa gives him the national security credentialal. and is it still the defining issue when it gets to caucus? >> the big question, assuming we don't see a seismic break out of war here, for exampleful we continue with the shadow war p rirltsds not going to matter at all. democratic voters -- >> it's been issues like health care, gun control, immigration. foreign policy has not taken center stage.

iowa, new hampshire and north carolina. these town halls were driving conversation. it's not what we've asked about. >> what else are you seeing on the campaign trail? what are you watching fly under the radar we should be paying attention to? >> the way they're talking about his son, who has been diagnosed with autism and he's using at the to connect to voters. i've spent time with him in new hampshire last week. how many people are conelkting over this issue and coming up to him in events to talk about their responsible stories and being disabled or a care giver of someone disabled. and how they'll be doubling down and spending time in new hampshire. >> certainly interesting

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how you ultimately make remarks, having entered solely. >> first of all, we were ready to go, as you may know, a year ago and three weeks before thanksgiving, 2018, my wife was diagnosed with cancer. and that's the sort of thing at the brings your feet back to ground. and we thought the better thing to do was to pay attention to at the and to her. she is cancer free thanks to surgery. great care and a little radiation. and i continue to watch a field at the i think is really talented. it contain as lot of friends but is missing the moment. we have a lotf great ideas, coming from a number of candidates. and i have a record of results, and frankly, a broader range of life and leadership experience than any of the other candidates. i also look at new hampshire and other places where most voters

are, in fact, undecided. >> i'm very glad to hear your wife is, of course, on the mend. how do you, as you look at the field and pribring us back. you say your life and leadership experiences are broader. compare to joe biden, long tenure as the senate foreign relations committee. what has he not brought to the table? >> look, i'm not going to tear down any other candidate in order to lift myself or our campaign. the point is we're talking about, for example health care. you were talking about it earlier. >> you just said there are flaws in the field. you wouldn't be in the field if it wasn't flawed. what exactly is flawed about it? >> i can talk about my strengths and i will. i don't think we need, at this moment, as angry and agitated

and justifiably so, at the we all feel about the incumbent president, simply to remove him and go back to doing what we used to do. we have to have leadership that's right for right now. and i think we've got the best opportunity in a generation or two or three to reinvent america so at the the american dream is in fact available to everyone everywhere. at the has been my work in the public and private sector. and i have results to the # to show for at the work unlikeby a of the other candidates in this race. >> do you thing you have to win in new hampshire to have a viable campaign going forward? >> we're going to win everywhere. we're up and fungctioning with team in everyone of the four states. in new hampshire and south carolina are going fags and purposely. but we'll be up in each of the four states. we have another volunteer call

tonight with house parties all over the country. thousands of volunteer whose signed up up for every one of the 50 states. we have work to do. we need to earn the vote. but to presume it's done after months and months of candidates j no one has locked it down with 60 or 70 undecided i think is a misrepresentation of what is happening on the ground. the people in new hampshire, south carolina, iowa, nevada have been very open to a message of real leadership with real results. and a willingness to be open to the ideas and perspectives of others to accomplish those things. >> let's turn to the news we've been talking about already through this evening, which was the death of general suleimani at the hands of a u.s. drone and at the order of president trump. you have said quote, he's not

someone whose loss i mourn. and senator mark warner in the senate said this morning, to my colleague, chuck todd, at the he isopen on the idea there is intelligence at the showed a threat, although he's not sure how imminent at the threat was. is there a world the trump administration was justified doing what they did or do you think what they did was reckless? >> i think america reserves the right to protect our interests anywhere, anytime. but at the right has to be bound by international norms, by law and by forthought. frankly, we have a president and administration that has never demonstrated a respect for any of at the. so i in -- am skeptical at the the president did not consult

intelligence or allies, did not consider the impact on our own troops on the ground in the region, on our ally's troops on the ground in the region or other allies, most especially israel. so i think this administration, this president has a lot of explaining to do. but the skepticism i have and ulgters share is justified by three years of carelessness by this president. >> do you think democratic primary voters should be thinking about how candidates voted on the iraq war in the context of what we know now about iran when they cast their votes? joe biden's team is arguing he's got experience. and ulgteothers are saying he v for a war with bad judgment. >> it's a factor in the sweep of our expeer yngs and perspectives and what we bring to bear. nobody gets it all right. but thinking a step or two or

three ahead, taking a long-term view of how we make political decisions, how we make foreign policy decisions, economic decisions and so forth. governing for the next generation, not just the next election cycle is a difference i'm about and frankly a difference america needs in the white house and all leadership positions in our government. >> thank you very much for joining me tonight. be safe on the campaign trail, sir. appreciate it. >> take good care. when we come back, i spent four months away from work. what i learned and what the united states still has to learn. what the united states still has to learn. when liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wow. thanks, zoltar. how can i ever repay you? maybe you could free zoltar?

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for new parents. in 2018 only 16% of americans in the private sector said they had access to paid leave. the ma material morality rate is the highest in the developed world and it's rising when it's falling almost everywhere else. it's 2019 -- i'm sorry, it's 2020 and women are still dying needlessly in childbirth. this is a global embarrassment. we're barely able to have a conversation beyond that about paternity leave. even though they are give iing benefits that last four years after their lee ends. now there are some signs that things are changing. while i was away kronk passed 12 weeks of paid leave for federal workers and it's about time for that. but this is not a new problem. you are a work mom. you fought battles way harder than i have ever had to fight. this is why i wanted to talk about this. we need to talk about it over and over and over again or the message is never going to get

through. how do we fix it. >> we need to keep reminding americans they are an anomaly. 1 in 4 women go back to work two week was a giving birth. imagine that. >> to all of you who do, they are saints. i can cannot believe they do it. >> they do it because they have no choice. you are this weird anomaly that doesn't give parents paid leave when they have babies. it's not good for the children or the parents. it's not good for relationships. you're right that the key no the future is paid paternity leave. fathers have to stay home. it's very good for the children and i'm sure it was good for your relationship with r your husband too to have father staying home as well. that mommy gap that you spoke about in terms of the mommy penalty in terms of when we earn as mothers, how we lose our earnings, that's not going to change until fathers stay home with their babies. this is no way it will. we have to start pushing for that. >> i completely greet great. just to underscore as it stands now, our systems are failing families. that means we're failing our

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welcome back to the second hour of "kasie d.c." joining me live in a few minutes is chris coons. and we'll talk to will had herd about why americans are likely

to be conservatiskeptical aboute in iraq. you won't want to go to bed before my conversation with maxine waters. that's coming up shortly. but just in tonight, the president spoke to reporters off camera, but on the record, tonight aboard air force one. of note, he doubled down on his threat to attack sites of cultural importance to iran should they retaliate. te said, they are allowed to kill our people, they are allowed to torture and meme our people and blow up our people and we're not identity lowed to touch our cultural sites, it doesn't work that way. here's what secretary of state mike pompeo said earlier a about that issue. >> our own dod discussed protection of cultural protection. why is the president threatening with war crimes? >> we'll behave inside the system. we always have. and we always will. you know that. >> and with that, here with me

is bureau chief for "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst phillip rucker, susan page, former senior adviser to jeb bush, michael steele, and senior foreign affairs analyst brett mcgerk. and most recently as the president's special envoy leading the global campaign against isis. sir, let me start with you. can you walk us through, first of all, we had a wow at at the table as we were talking through what the president said. and that's something that's clear ly on how the president hs framed this and how damaging it could be.

>> thanks. i just heard that in my ear piece and i have a similar reaction. when this happened about 96 hours ago or so, my immediate reaction was number one, someone who served in iraq, there's an immediate sense of justice for the removal of sqasem soleimani. but we need to presume that we are now at war with iran. i don't say that lightly. we can hope for the best, we're at war with iran. and what has happened since then with the statements, the tweets, the reporting, the shifting narratives from the administration, just shows a decision that would clearly was not gamed out, not well thought through and for the president of the united states to say that we are r prepared to strike 52 sites inside iran with to congressional authorization including cultural sites chrks is clearly a violation of international law, stretches the boundaries of our republic. it's almost unprecedented. there's no congressional authorization for war with iran.

and i thus he needs to go to the congress and explain what he plans to do and seek an authorization. this is not a limited strike like he did in syria this is a big piece of business and it means war. >> you made a pretty strong statement there at the top. you said we need to presume we are at war with iran. how should americans understand what that means, what it's going to look like and how it may impact them. >> this is an extremely serious situation. we have been in a covert shadow r war with iran for 40 years. but the prosecute made the decision to remove qasem soleimani. and when i say to presume we're at war, we have to presume a war footing in the middle east. let's kind of rewind the tape. how did we get here? when the president left the iran nuclear deal, there was a debate within the administration. one camp said really sanctioning

iran to try to just smother their economy. they will come to the table, will be able to negotiate a better deal and behave better in the region. another camp said a lot of iran experts actually they will fight back. they will do provocative things and draw back to the middle east in a way we don't want to be buzz the overall strategy of the administration is to reduce commitments in the middle east. for the first year of this strategy, iran didn't do that much. starting in may, targeting tankers in the gulf, saudi arabia, shooting down american drone and then two months ago beginning attacks in iraq, the kind we had not seen in eight years. they had not attacked us in eight years. so since may of last year, president trump has now acceptability almost approaching 20,000 american troops in the middle east. that's not what was advertised when the iran policy began.

we have been in an action and reaction cycle that shows a policy not well gamed out and we are in this thing. i had hoped after this a x was taken last thursday night that the administration would seek to deescalate that we have an off ramp or thought this through. but what has been clear since this action was taken is that none of that is in place. our allies are, treatmently nervous. and soleimani now may gate in his death what he wasn't able to get when he was ike. he wanted to reduce our influence in the middle east and also for the regime in iran to consolidate his grippe on power. that is what's happening. it's really spiraling. and potential ily out of control. >> rather dire a way to frame everything. phil reductiucker, you were lis to what we were outline iing ab

how the president was talking about the cultural sites. let's think big picture here for a second. this idea that there were a a series of hostile acts from the iranians over the course of several months that we didn't actually respond to at least not necessarily in a public way until all of a sudden we took this action that clearly you cover this president, seems to fit with what we know about his personality and how he reacts. why did it take so long for the president to get to that point and are we in a more dangerous situation because of that? >> the secretary of state said today he thinks americans are safer because of what president trump did. but it seems that there's a lot of uncertainty here. not only abroad with allies in the region, but here at home about what could be next. in part because there doesn't seem to be a grand strategy at play. it seems as if the president is reacting ta today to what is

happening to what the iranians are doing and threatening from half wway across the world. and the president over the last week as he was seeing footage on television outside the embassy in baghdad was really fume iing about that. he was upset about that imagery and fearful as a weak leader, of not being able to defend the american embassy. he took one of the most extreme actions he could have taken in ordering this assassination. his military leaders brought him a menu of options that ranged in severity and the president surprised some of the pentagon leaders, according to the reporting, by selecting this assassination plan and that could have rather dire consequences in the days to come. we're going to have to see. >> is that the same phenomenon playing out in the comments about the cultural sites? clearly the president doesn't know the deal? he is seem to be on a different page. >> it's a merit of international law he doesn't seem to be bound

by international law, at least according to what he's been saying publicly. there seems to be an escalation in the rhetoric. he's effect i-ly warning iranians on twitter and then this conversation this evening with the president pool traveling with him before air force one he will strike cultural sites in iran, that he will retaliate with brute force and hit iran harder than whatever iran has planned to hit back against the united states in terms of retaliation. >> speaking of those comments, there's another piece of news we want to highlight. a reaction to a vote by the iraqi parliament to expel u.s. troops. the president saying, quote, if they do ask us to leave, if we don't do it in a friendly basis, we will charge them sanctions like they have never seen before, ever. it will make iranian sanctions look tame. how do you interpret those remarks? >> pretty remarkable given our recent history with rooiiraq.

we have invaded and tried to establish democratic government there with some success, but a weak government at the moment. now we find ourselves through our own actions with the iraqi parliament after this history of the investment of american money, with the parliament voting, that's one of the things that prump talked about as wanting to do. but to leave on this basis is a huge opening for two forces. iran in iraq and isis. two of our big enemies would benefit from us doing an action like this. and the president's provocative comments on air force one can only fuel the anger that iraqis are feeling now and their desire to see the end of the american president.

>> how is this defensible from a republican foreign policy perspective? >> let's be clear. there's long been a greater willingness among republicans in general to take a hard line against iran. we all remember john mccain, bomb, bomb, bomb on iran. there's been a a difference of opinion on this. so i don't think it's society toeltly surprising to see democrats expressing skepticism. i think how that plays out politically will depend on how what happens next. how effective the response is. how damaging the iranian response is. and what the president does in response to them. >> let me just ask to pick up on the point about iran and isis and potential added space. this is an issue you looked at. you focused on a lot of americans thought that there was a point or the administration was trying to convince everybody isis has been vanquished they were on the defensive. how dig of an eping is this for them? >>. >> if we leave, it's huge. we return to iraq in the summer of 2014. not just with us, we went with a a big coalition almost 80

countries around the world. a total of 10,000 from all these countries under our umbrella and we are trining security forces. we are helping with intelligence. we have a presence all throughout the country and provide a long-term balance against iranians. there's massive influence inside iraq. but if we were to leave, the vacuum will be filled entirely by shia militia groups and extremist groups including isis in other parts of the country. we'll be right back to where we were. that's a total disastrous outcome. and to a all of our allies who have their forces with us on these and we're taking these actions without much consultation, i just know they are extremely concerned. i hope in the middle of a spiraling national security crisis, i have been in some of them. you want to escalate by yourself, get some time, get through the passionate period.

but everything president trump is saying and doing is making it worse. and the iranians will respond. it might come in a week, a month, or six months, and we'll have to respond. we want to try to make sure we don't get to that point. >> an dwlad why we end up leaving iraq as well under these terms. maggie tweelted over the weekend. i noted that the president ran on ending the war, but it's accomplice the indicated. he also said he would bomb the "s" out of isis. he didn't run as an isolationist or interventionist. he ran as both and still does. thr a lot of contradictions on how he's looking all the this situation. >> it's really through himself and his own self-image. and on the one hand, he wants to be the guy who brings troops

home and withdraws from the foreign conflicts and invests back home in rebuilding america. on the other hand, he wants to be the wartime commander-in-chief and be the one to authorize the strikes and be the one to have the biggest historic military actions under his bhelt. he cares a lot about that. and one through the way he's been talking the last couple days about tlars and sense, it's a huge waste of money to be invading iraq and rebuilding so much in iraq. he talked tonight on the plane with reporters about how much money the u.s. invested in building the airfield in iraq and how if the u.s. were to withtrau from iraqi would expect them to repay the united states. the money it cost to build that airfield and so he's thinking a lot about money too. >> susan page? >> what he's also thinking about is benghazi. one of the reasons it's a trig

tore see the protesters try to break into the u.s. embassy in baghdad was a reminder of both those episodes, which were hugely damaging to the two presidents involved. >> thank you all for joining me. i'm going to talk live with maxine waters about how congress tried to stop actions like the one in iran. plus republican congressman will hurd, how much intelligence americans will ever get to see. but first chris coons is standing by to talk about whether the senate will pass a war powers resolution among other things. back after this. rs resolution a other things back after this. cond chances. but a subaru can. (dad) you guys ok? you alright? wow. (avo) eyesight with pre-collision braking. standard on the subaru ascent. the three-row subaru ascent.

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welcome back. "the washington post" points out that there's one particular word the trump administration is using to justify friday's drone strike. eminent, some analysts say it appears unsure how to legally present its case for the killing of soleimani. by repeatedly describing the plot against personnel imminent, they are making a more persuasive argument. it was an act of self-defense, not aggression. joining me is senator chris coons of delaware. it's great to have you on the program. >> thank you, great to have you back. >> let's start right here with this question about whether this plan was imminent. i know we're still waiting for

an all senators briefing coming up this week about the background here. your colleague mark warner told chuck todd this morning he does potentially buy into the idea there was a threat, but he's not convinced whether it was imminent. what's your view about the legality of what the administration did here and whether you have any questions about that. >> of course, i have questions about what the administration's strategy is going forward and whether the intelligence that they will be presenting to us this week justifies this strike against general soleimani. first, let's be clear. no american should mourn the passing of this iranian b military leader who has been directly involved in planning and carrying out dozens, if not hundreds of attacks across the region b that have killed thousands over many years. this is not a good person. he has been a very malign influence in the region and is directly tied to the killing of

hundreds of americans throughout the war in iraq. but we don't know whether there was evidence, cred evidence because general soleimani have been involved in plotting attacks against americans in the region for many years. there's other things i am concerned about. public reports that are close ally the united kingdom wasn't briefed or informed beforehand. evidence that we are now facing a a real threat of american forces being expelled from iraq. and that iran abandoned any of the limitations on its nuclear program from the iran teal. so as former vice president joe biden has recently said, this remarkable etc. ka la toir step by president trump is akin to throwing a stick of dynamite into a tinderbox. i'm concerned they don't have a strategy. so this coming week, i'm going to be asking not just for a classified briefing about the justification for this single incident, this drone strike, but whether or not there's a clear strategy for what the president

is leading us into in this volatile environment in the middle east. >> do you think, sir, that this action was covered by the existing aumf? does a new law need to be passed? does this fall under powers that already exist for the self-defense of the country for any commander-in-chief? >> that frankly depends on what the intelligence was that was presented to president trump. he owe it is to the american people before leading us into a widening war with iran to present a clear strategy. the legal justification is partly going to depend on what he was presented with. but the larger challenge is making sure that the american people understand what the risks are going forward. i'm here in iowa where i have been hearing from people all across the state a at a dozen events increasing concern that we have a president who perhaps doesn't really listen to the diplomats, the intelligence community, his military advisers and experts. we have a country trithat's weary of long wars in the middle

east in afghanistan and iraq. i have heard increasing support for joe biden because people have confidence in his experience and how he would make similar decisions going forward. >> i'm glad that you brought up the presidential race. i want to show you a little bit of what senator warren, who is one of joe biden's opponents, told chuck todd earlier this morning about this moment that we're in. take a look. >> i think people are asking why this moment? as i said, the administration can't keep its story straight. and in the case of ukraine, it was all about protecting donald trump's skin. we know that donald trump is very upset about this upcoming impeachment trial. but look what he's doing now. he's taking us to the edge of war. >> she very strongly suggested it's because of impeachment that the president is doing this now. taking us to the edge of war with iran now when the shadow wars have been fought for quite

some time. do you degree with that assessment? >> i don't yet have the facts in front of me to lead me to make that strong accusation, but it's striking that both the bush administration and obama administration military commanders, al lice like the united kingdom, over more than a decade have all had opportunities to take action against general soleimani. in many circumstances across several money stragss, chose not to because they saw it as a dramatic etc. ka la toir step. i'm hoping that the administration has a clear justification for this step, but i'm not confident they do. the trump administration has had an uneven relationship with the truth when it comes to the testimony we have heard over the last few weeks before the house intelligence committee and in front of congress about the

remarkable steps taken by the administration to dangle badly needed military aid in front of a vulnerable partner that's faced aggression from russia. it's concerning that the trump administration may have is allowed political concerns to influence this decision. that's something we'll have to weigh in the classified brief ing in the week ahead. frankly, more than anything, the trump administration owes the american people a clear strategy and a justification for why they would etscalate our tensions wih iran. >> we're almost out of time. very quickly. would you urge speaker pelosi to send the articles of impeachment to the senate for the trial sooner rather than later? that a political context we're talking about here. >> i think it's important that senators step forward and say we are going to demand a fair trial. we're going to demand the witnesses and the evidence that we need to actually know what happened in the decision making

before the president release d this military aid approvaled by congress to ukraine. that's been recent evidence just in the past few weeks that strongly suggests the administration continues to conceal vital evidence from congress. i think the case built in the house intelligence committee was fairly strong on both counts. if the president's got a strong case, he should release senior members of the administration to testify under oath and name that case. there ought to be a fair trial in congress and i think we should move forward with it. >> i guess we'll see. senator chris coons. hope to see you on capitol hill. thank you for dwrr time. when we come back, we're going to talk more about the crisis and confidence as america looks at escalating conflict. will hurd joins me next. ♪ limu emu & doug

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welcome back. at the top of the show, we brought you the news that president trump tonight doubled down on his threat to attack sites of cultural importance to iran should they retaliate for the killing of general soleimani. the president telling reporters, they are allowed to kill our people, they are allowed to torture and maim our people and

use roadside bombs and blow up our people and we're not allowed to touch their cultural sites, it doesn't work that way. joining me is will hurd of texas, member of the house intelligence committee. congressman, it's great to have you on the program. >> i want to join with everybody else in welcoming you back. you haven't missed much since you have been away. >> not a thing. here we have obviously just an incredibly intense weekend of news. let's start with the comments. that the president has doubled dun on the idea that we would attack cultural sites in violation of international law if iran retaliates. could you support such an action of the commander in it chief. >> i wouldn't. we shouldn't be attacking cultural sites. i don't see our military planners suggesting or identifying sites to hit. we have been at war with iran -- let me rephrase that. iran has been at war with us for

over 40 years when they kept hostages for 422 day. they are the largest state sponsor of terrorism. we should be focused on targeting the folks in involved in terrorism. the folks putting down their own people. cultural sites is not something i would advise nor i think should happen. >> what is your view on how this president has made this decision? it's very clear it was one of many options presented to him and he took the most extreme. >> let's be clear. qasem soleimani was the head of the most well-equipped, biggest capitalized terrorist group in the world. this wasn't like he was at the baghdad airport tran itting his

way to barbados. he was in iraq to work with proxies to kill more americans and kill more allies. and just because you wear the uniform of your country doesn't mean you're not a terrorist. this guy was a terrorist. the force has been i.d.s as a terrorist organization. this was the head of a terrorist organization. this is what happens to terrorists. he was in an active battlefield. he was an active participant in this battle in an area that has been authorized by congress. so it's not this, it's the iranians escalating this war. it's frustrating for me when folks act like iran is a victim in this case. iran is not a victim. they are a culprit. if the iranian government wants to rejoin the world community, it's real simple. stop killing americans. stop killing our allies.

stop killing your own people before thanksgiving they murdered 1500 of their own people unarmed and protesting. stop lying about your nuclear weapons. do these things and stop influencing, trying to influence the governments in iraq, in lebanon, in yemen and afghanistan. just do those things and we'll welcome you back it to the international community. it's the iranian government that has been escalating over these last couple months. and so the iranians were likely to do what they have always been try doing. trying to kill more americans. and we have to be ready for that. i'm hopeful that our european allies when join us in trying to put pressure on the iranian government. the iranian government today said they were going to continue to enrich uranium however they see fit violating the jcpoa. this was a red line for european allies and i hope they work with us and join us in putting

continued pressure on the iranian government and i hope my colleagues focus a lot of their attention on the iranian government and hold their feet to the fire to make sure that they are acting like a normal government because they haven't acted like a normal government. >> what responsibility does this administration have to make both members of congress, but also the american people aware of the justification for this? because i take your point on iran has acted badly for many years and has not been an outstanding member of the community. however, the administration believes it's important that we understand there was an imminent threat. i have seen a lot of this behind the scenes. how can americans trust that's the case if so far everything has been classified? >> ewe don't have to have access

to material in order to know the iranians have been increasing pressure in the are region. the iranian government used their proxy forces in iraq in order to try to storm our embassy is. why are the the iranians doing that now? because the iraqi people have stood up and said they want a a new leader because the prime minister in iraq is a puppet of the iranian government. it's the government that used their proxies within the iraqi parliament in order to pass this piece of legislation. i believe they passed today or yesterday trying to expel u.s. troops. this is all being funded, organized and focused by the iranian fwoft. so you don't have to have this overwhelming intelligence to know that they are increasing these types of attacks. and to think they are going to try to do something in the future, but i'll tell you this. the new head of the iranian

force is probably looking over his shoulder. some of the other military planners that have felt like they could operate without any consequences, they are second guessing some of these decisions they will be make iing over the next couple days. i hope the iranian fwoft makes a decision to decembescalate. >> why do you think the president suddenly trusts his intelligence community? >> i don't know if this is about trust or not trust. i think when it comes to major decisions like this, there's been a the lot of examples sglsh he's trashed the intelligence community previously. he's had all kinds of negative things to say. >> sure i don't think that has anything to do -- i have criticized the times he's said that. but in this case when you look at the ae rxs here, the reactions in syria, that when it came to identifying sites and

showing and using a connectic response, he's listened to them. but this is a question you have to ask him. >> congressman will hurd, thank you for coming on the program. it's great to have you. >> always a pleasure. still to come, what you learned after a month-four hayuate tus from cable news. but first my conversation with maxine waters. we're back after this. conversah maxine waters. we're back after this. i do not speed. and that's saving me cash with drivewise. my son, he did say that you were the safe option. and that's the nicest thing you ever said to me. so get allstate. stop bossing. where good drivers save 40% for avoiding mayhem, like me. this is my son's favorite color, you should try it. [mayhem] you always drive like an old lady? [tina] you're an old lady.

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of visibly healthy skin. try olay total effects. welcome back. joining me is congresswoman maxine waters, chair of the house financial services committee. madame chairwoman, thank you for being here. >> thank you, delighted to be here. >> i have to start with the impending week ahead on capitol hill. i would like to ask about iran as well. because you have such a long standing relationship with speak speaker pelosi, i'm hoping you

can help me understand what's going through her mind in this week as we wait for the impeachment articles to go from the house to the senate potentially or potentially not, as we await a likely impeachment trial over there. what do you expect from the speaker of the house in terms of sending those articles over? what's the calculation? >> let me say this. the speaker has indicated that certainly she is going to transmit the articles, but we need to know what the rules are. we need to understand what the rules are so that we're able to match up our managers, for example, with witnesses. we need to understand whether or not there are going to be witnesses. we need to understand whether or not we are dealing with a situation where the rules that have been adopted basically in the past relative to the impeachment proceedings are going to be followed or they are

going to be new rules that we don't know or understand. so all i know at this point is that the speaker has said tell us what the rules are. and we'll be happy to transmit we are not withholding simply because we have them under our control. we just want to know what the rules of the game are. and i think that's a fair question. and i think that it is fair because as we understand it, the president of the united states appears to be able to control what is happening in the senate and he wants a speedy operation without witnesses, et cetera. so we simply need to know what the rules are. >> do you have any indication that mitch mcconnell is going to budge and give you what you are asking for? i don't see any indication of that so far. >> well, we don't know what mitch mcconnell is going to do.

we do know that there have at least been one member of the senate who said they are uncomfortable with the fact he said he was doing all of the arrange mements and planning wi the president of the united states, who is a defendant in this matter. and so we do know that at least one senator has spoken out. there may be several other who is are beginning to raise the question about whether or not they are going to be witnesses. so we don't know what his final answer is going to be, but we do know that americans need to know what the rules are. we need to know whether or not they are going to be witnesses. we need to know whether or not there's going to be a real trial or not. and so i think the speaker has taken all of this into consideration, is repaired to transmit whenever we know what the rules of the game are. >> do you think the american people are with democrats on impeachment and do you think that extending this period is

something that helps your case in terms of convincing more people that this is is a good idea? >> i don't think the american public his deciding based on political parties. i think they are deciding on the growing information that they are receiving. the last national poll that i saw said that most americans feel the president needs to be impeached. so i think the american public is looking for facts. they are looking for information. now we know several things about this prosecuesident. we know he's a liar. we know it's been documented by "the washington post" that he's lied thousands of times. i think it's over 15,000 times that they have actually docum t documented. we know that there's a matter of trust. we also know that from afar, you have had psychiatrists wondering about his mental stability. we know that the president tweaks tweets and makes up his mind. he knows more than.

because it's not about which party they are going to align themselves with. it's whether or not they can trust the president of the united states. whether or not he's a lifer, whether or not he's mental health is good. >> i want to set that aside for a second. the reality is he's the current president of the united states. he's making decisions that we are here to talk about. one of the things that we do know about the background around impeachment is we're still getting new information. there's going to be more information in the court case. this is information you didn't have during the house impeachment process. do you think that you potentially should have extended that process to allow for more information like that to come into it? or does it not matter? >> well, the fact of the matter is we have been doing the work to try to get the information.

we have issued lots of subpoenas. i have issued them for my committee about deutsche bank and his frngs the foreign affairs committee, the intelligence committee. the courts move at their own pace. and we don't know when the courts are going to take up some of these issues. now the ones that come out of my committee, i understand they won't come out until march. and so we have done our work. and we have received the support of some of the lower courts. it's up to the courts basically to decide when they are going to make decisions in the supreme court now in the case of the financial records of this president, they will be making some decisions in march. so we don't know when the other decisions may be made about subpoenas. so it's not a matter of us waiting until the next election. i think that we had had enough information. it is documented that the president made the call to the

ukrainian president. it's documented by people who were on the calls. now we have additional e-mails, et cetera. so the proof it there. it's not a matter of whether or not we should have waited. it's a matter of whether or not the senate wants to move with the credible trial and whether or not it's going to be with witnesses and trrules that we c be comfortable with. >> congresswoman, thank you so much for your time. we really appreciate you being here. >> you're so welcome. thank you. when we come back, after four months away, what exactly did i miss? s away, what exactly did i miss on family and friends ♪ ♪ and hey, we got somethin' ♪ ♪ just for you (sniffing) ♪ it's a cup of your favori-i-i-ite... ♪ (loud splashing) (high-pitched laughter) dang woodchucks! with geico, the savings keep on going. just like this sequel. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance.

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it's a little hard to keep up with the news cycle even for a day, let alone four months when you are gone. so i asked the kasie dc producer team to prepare a briefing for me that, by the way, should definitely be under two minutes. >> roger stone found guilty. >> jeff sessions is officially running. >> katie hill has resigned. >> taliban leaders to camp david. >> the president abruptly reversed his g-7 decision. >> president trump was at the game last night. >> the justice department inspector general's report. >> we found no evidence the

investigation was motivated by political bias. >> a big shake-up. >> richard spencer. >> john bolton is out. >> in the meantime, let's talk 2020. >> kamala harris. >> beto to rurk. >> michael bloomberg officially announced his bid today. >> the white house moving u.s. troops from the syrian border. >> this is the biggest blunder of his presidency. >> i am increasingly optimistic that we can have some historic solutions. >> the united states and turkey have agreed to a sacease fire. >> the whistleblower. >> the president is the whistleblower. >> you did ask ukraine to look into joe biden. >> of course i did. >> china just started an investigation into the bidens. >> is that appropriate? >> of course not. >> you know there was no. >> turned out to be a perfect call. that call was a great call. >> it was a perfect call. >> people can read the transcript, see there was no -- >> quid pro quo.

>> that's it. >> what i heard was inappropriate. >> as we sit here testifying, the president is attacking you on twitter. >> it is very intimidating. >> a member of my staff could hear president trump on the trump. >> oh, yeah. he's going to do it. he'll do everything you ask. >> everyone was in the loop. >> the judiciary is introducing two articles of impeachment. >> article one is adopted. >> article two is adopted. >> i did say to him, i think this is all going to blow up and here we are. ♪ i think i got it. the news cycle has been wild and it continues to be so. we are right back at it. i did want to take a moment, though, to thank all of you and of course your dogs and maybe even your babies for sticking around and watching kasie dc on these sunday nights and i especially want to thank my colleagues for so capably anchoring throughout all of that

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a deadly air strike in baghdad on iran's top general. >> iran promised a tough

revenge. >> can you say your strategy is actually working? >> absolutely, george. >> the question is why not? >> why now? >> the previous administration left us in a terrible place. it is time to take him out and stop this reign of the terror. >> just because he deserved it because not mean it was a strategic move. >> you have to look at what the consequences were. >> administrations sometimes manipulate and cherry pick intelligence to further their political goals. >> he was advancing his own personal political interests. >> can you confidently say america is safer today? >> absolutely. >> we are not safer today. >> do you agree? >> no, i really worry. we've actually increased the risks of war dramatically. >> president trump is focussed deeply on keeping americans safe over the long haul. >> we do not need this president getting us into a major war. >> the risk to america over the long run is much reduced. >> all they have done under

maximum pressure is escalate the chance of war with iran. >> and with that, hope you are a little bit more ready for your monday. that will do it for us tonight on kasie dc. for now, good night from washington. this sunday growing tensions. the u.s. kills a top iranian military commander sparking fears of an all-out war. >> we took action last night to stop a war. we did not take action to start a war. >> the administration insists he was in the late stages of planning attacks on americans. >> last night was the time we needed to make strike to make sure this imminent attack he was working actively was disrupted. >> tens of thousands across iran gather to mourn him. i'll take to secretary of state mike pompeo this morning.