good morning, everybody. it is thursday, april 23rd. it was another day of mixed messaging from the trump administration. the president made several claims that were immediately refuted by the doctors around him. he tried to coax them several times into saying the virus may not return. in another turn, the president said "the washington post"

misquoted the cdc director. here is how it all played out. >> dr. robert redfield was totally misquoted in the media on a statement about the fall season and the virus, totally misquoted. >> you were accurately quoted, correct? >> i'm accurately quoted in "the washington post." >> what dr. redfield was clearly asking for, just like we ask for every american to follow the guidelines, he's saying please add to the guidelines getting your flu shot and making sure you're protected. >> there's a good chance that covid will not come back. >> we don't know -- >> and if it comes back, it's in a small confined area -- >> the great thing is, we'll be able to find it earlier this time. >> it might not come back at all, jeff. he's talking about a worst case scenario where you have a big flu and some corona. >> we will have coronavirus in

the fall. i am convinced of that. there will be coronavirus in the fall. >> not necessarily on the same page there, i think we can all say that. also, a top foishlofficial at t department of health and human services who led the effort to develop a coronavirus vaccine who said he was removed from his position for pushing back on the use of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug that the president has embraced as a treatment for the coronavirus and, in fact, even promoted at some of these press briefings. in a statement issued by his lawyers yesterday, dr. rick bright said this, i believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by congress to address the covid-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit. i am speaking out because to combat the deadly virus science, not politics or cronyism, has to

lead the way. specifically and contrary to misguided directives, i limited the broad use of hydroxychloroquine as a panacea but which clearly lack scientific merit. while i'm prepared to look at all options, i rightly resisted efforts to provide an unproven drug on demand to the american public. bright was abruptly dismissed this week as the director of the department of health and human services biomedical advanced research and development authority and removed as the deputy assistant secretary for preparedness and response. he was, though, given a narrower job at the national institute of health. here is how the president responded when asked about dr. bright at yesterday's white house briefing. >> i want to ask you about rick bright. he's the head of the federal

agency in charge of getting a vaccine out to americans once it's ready. he says he has been pushed out of his job because he raised questions about hydroxychloroquine and some of your directives on that. was he pushed out of that job? >> i never heard of him. you just mentioned the name. i never heard of him. when did this happen? >> this happened today. >> if a guy says he was pushed out of a job, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. you'd have to hear the other side. i don't know who he is. >> so new reports are surfacing that detail the president brushing aside the early warnings of the severity of the coronavirus crisis and what was coming to us. according to the "wall street journal," trump nearly fired a top cdc official for telling the public that the agency was preparing for a potential pandemic back in february. the announcement resulted in a massive stock market plunge. the "new york times" reporting that trump had not agreed to the blunt warning and that she had, quote, jumped the gun. according to the journal, that same day health and human

services secretary alex caesar tried to fix some of the damage by giving a follow up press conference where he said the virus was, quote, contained here in the united states. after three crucial weeks, trump findly announced nationwide stay at home and social distancing measures. that was on march 16th. in the time between the cdc's announcement and mid march, the number of confirmed cases here in the united states surged from just over 15, 15 people, to over 4200. and while the government's stay at home guidelines are expiring next week, an overwhelming majority of americans support the coronavirus protections already in place. we got some polling on that according to the associated press poll. 76% of americans say they support closing bars and restaurants. 68% favor postponing nonessential medical care. 80% support requiring americans

to stay at home unless they have to run essential errands and 82% favor limiting gatherings to 10 or fewer people. meanwhile, over half of americans say it's not going to be safe to lift restrictions just in the next couple of weeks. 27% said it will be somewhat likely to be safe enough and 16% said it will be extremely or very likely. joining me now, peggy collins for us. peggy, good morning to you and it's great to see you this morning. as we talk about every thursday morning for the last couple of weeks, there is this impending doom as we await the jobless claims that just keep rising over the last four weeks since this shutdown first occurred. according to reuters, we have a report 26 million americans at this point who are likely or to have likely sought unemployment benefits over the last five weeks. that is in total.

what are you expecting to see this morning as we await these numbers? >> well, as you said, yasmin, we are seeing an expansion of the jobless claims in two main ways. there's been such a bottleneck because states have been deluged with people filing claims in the last few weeks. some of that bottleneck is still moving through the system for people who may have lost their jobs weeks ago. but we're also seeing the job losses expand to other industries. the first week we saw hospitality workers, retail workers, now we're seeing that spread to middle classworkers in office jobs, as well. so today we're expecting another 4.5 million people to have filed claims last week. that's the estimates we're reporting out. that would bring us to over 25 million people in the last five weeks or so since the shutdown has been widespread. >> are there still folks, from what you're hearing, peggy, that are not necessarily able to file

unemployment claims because the system is completely bogged down and overwhelmed? >> we have been reporting cases of that, especially in states that have -- just have antiquated systems and they weren't ready for a deluge of claims like in these numbers in terms of we're not even talking just the thousands. in some cases, we're talking in the tens of thousands, even over 100,000 people who are filing claims in a week. states and local governments have really tried to expand quickly their technology, their call center, in some cases, they're even hiring more workers to handle and create more capacity. but we have heard of very long lines, people getting up very early to try to file online and having trouble with the systems that they are dealing with in their local areas. >> peggy collins, thank you as always. still ahead, in one hard-hit

state, nurses are taking legal action and suing over working conditions. also, president trump has been pushing to open the economy once again, but now he says he strongly disagrees with georgia's decision to reopen certain businesses. those stories and, of course, a check on your weather when we come back. i'm jo ann jenkins with aarp. the coronavirus continues to affect us all, and we are here, actively supporting you and your community.

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welcome back, everybody. new york's largest nurses union filed lawsuits this week against the state's health department in two areas hospitals claiming they failed to protect their health and their safety. three lawsuits are alleging that the cuomo administration and the hospitals, they failed to provide sufficient protective equipment, like masks and gowns. the 42,000 nurses in the new york state nurses association, they're asking the courts to order the montefiore medical

center and west chester medical center to provide the essential protective equipment. they're asking the state to enforce the governor's april 14th order that each nurse receive an n95 mask on a daily basis. nurses read off the names of front line colleagues who died from covid-19. let's get into this. joining me now, msnbc analyst danny cevallos. we know at this point from the extra activities and from the stories that we have heard, there are a lot of health care workers getting this virus at this point. especially because of the lack of proper ppe. and the numbers from the cdc, they're not even complete yet from what we're getting. can courts here, danny, force employers or the state to actually produce equipment? that's been really hard to come by for everybody. >> when you read that nurses associations are suing

hospitals, you think of traditional lawsuits when plaintiffs ask for money damages. but that's not what these lawsuits are. there's another thing courts can do and they can give injunctive relief. they can order somebody to do something. and that's what these lawsuits are seeking. they are asking the government and these hospital toes be forced to not only provide the personal protective equipment, but also to not require health care workers to return to work seven days after an infection because that appears to run directly contrary to the new york department of health's own directives that will be allowed 14 days to return to work after infection. that alone seems to be a violation of the department of health's own rules. so that's what the nurses associations, that's what the plaintiffs in these cases are asking the courts to do, to

incidentser convenie intervene and asking the courts and the hospitals to do to reduce more risk. >> our front line workers are incredibly vulnerable and need protection as we all do. i thought this was fascinating and wanted you to get -- to weigh in on this. white house economic adviser larry kudlow yesterday, danny, saying businesses should not necessarily be held liable for employees who contract coronavirus on the job. one, is there any chance that this could actually apply to hospitals? and two, this is going to be a major issue going forward as we start to reopen businesses throughout the country and more people do continue to get this virus if folks feel like they're forced to be -- to get back to work. >> this is a very different issue than suing hospitals for personal protective equipment. i've said for many weeks now that holding companies, including hospitals, liable for transmission of the virus, those

will be difficult lawsuits. because every lawsuit requires a showing of what's called causation, that the defendant's negligence actually caused the damages, the injury. and in cases and things like flu or transmission of infectious diseases, it can be challenging to show that the defendant's negligence actually caused the transmission. a defendant will show a number of other ways that a plaintiff could have gotten an illness like the flu or mrsa or something else that's highly infectious. for example, riding on the subway or even getting delivery food in new york. it arguably could be transferred that way. so causation issues will make lawsuits against employers very difficult in addition to what's called the exclusive remedy. workers' compensation generally bars lawsuits by employees against their employers. and then it's even more challenging in lawsuits against hospitals for money damages

because hospitals, it will be agreed, can't be absolute guarantors that somebody, an employee, will not get infected with some disease while working in a hospital. a hospital is a high risk environment in which to work and there are a lot of infectious diseases floating around in the ether in hospitals. so that statement may actually be arguably correct because it will be difficult to hold companies, including hospitals, liable for their employees infection with the virus. >> but nonetheless, for folks that work outside, danny, of the health care system, it shows why people are concerned when making the decision to go back to work and when exactly those guidelines are going to draw down. danny so volumus for us, thank you, my friend. still ahead, amid the coronavirus pandemic, there is a new warning from the united nations. this one is about famine. we're going to get a live report on that, coming up next. since 1926, nationwide has been on your side.

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welcome back, everybody. with much of the world on lockdown due to the coronavirus pandemic, the head of the united nations is issuing a new warning and it's dire. as a result of the outbreak in the subsequent ramifications, the u.n. is saying that famine in as many as three dozen countries is a very real and dangerous possibility. joining me now, matt bradley in rome and helena humphrey. looking at the u.n. figures here, it looks as if this is a possible supply chain situation. how many people around the world would be at risk in the event of widespread famine? >> well, there's already well more than 800 million facing crisis hunger or levels of

hunger where they essentially go to bed hungry as described by the world food program. but this would actually exacerbate the situation. there's now about 135 million who are already facing critical hunger and terrible shortages of food. that would likely double. it would increase by 130 million as a direct result of the coronavirus pandemic. remember, a lot of these countries in the developing world, they haven't had to carry the weight of this virus in the same way the developed world has already. we're talking about east asia, europe and north america when it comes to the coronavirus pandemic. these developing countries haven't seen that kind of load of actual infections as the developed world has. but it's still -- they're going to be sweep by the economic pandemic that is going to follow, the pandemic of poverty. and we could see as many as 300,000 people die every day for about three months, according to the world food program, as a result of this economic disaster

that should be following the biological one. so, you know, a lot of the reasons that this is such a disaster is not just the loss of life. this is going to be reversing perhaps for quite a while some massive gains that have been made in poverty reduction throughout the world over the last generation. we've seen a lot of people being lifted out of poverty, a lot of people having their hunger alleviated over the last several decades. that will be reversed. and, you know, one major indicator here, a lot of these countries have been increased in remittances that have flowed from the wealthy world to the poor world. now the remittances are going to be decreasing by about 20%. that is a critical problem and that could afflict children and especially people in conflict zones. yasmin. >> and it seems as if, matt, these are also part of the warnings from the head of the health organization who said the fall could be even worse as this coronavirus does start to spread

to some third world countries that could be affected economically and in the way that you're explaining. but the question here, and the big one is, matt, what needs to be done? what needs to happen here to prevent this worst case scenario? >> well, the head of the world food program said that they need more financing for the world food program. but, of course, they also need more financing for every united nations agency because a lot of this will be felt worst in countries that are suffering from conflict already. countries that are already the recipients of aid from the welth welt wealthy world. so they are going to need the entire world to come together and work together. that was one of the things that beesley mentioned in his comments. and that's going to require a loss of skepticism on the part of populist leaders, including donald trump, throughout the world. they're going to have to start to put more confidence back into with international institutions and agencies that provide relief and care for people in the world

over. yasmin. >> not necessarily the guidelines that the president has governed with up and to this point. so we're going to have to wait and see how that plays out. helena, as we're thinking about this, part of what matt is talking about is getting people back to work, reopening economies to avoid this worst case scenario. what are governments at this point around the world doing to help people get back to work? >> you know, yasmin, right now, people around the world are talking about the concept of immunity passports, essentially documentation showing that someone has recovered from coronavirus. now, chile is set to become the first country in the world to roll this out. essentially, we will be seeing qr codes sent to people's cell phones that they can then print out.

these will be delivered to people 14 days after their infection with severe symptoms. once they are recovered, they can then start to leave quarantine, re-enter daily life. in china, in wuhan, a similar system is already under way using qr codes to monitor people's health statuses and then say where they're allowed to travel to based on a color-coded system. it's a similar concept that germany is looking into where testing there is robust at over 100,000 tests per day. so they say in light of that, they might start moving towards certificates or licenses so that is an idea also be considered by italy. in the united kingdom, the government is floating the idea of immunity wrist bands. as with the united states, the administration will be looking into immunity passports going forward, but he did caution.

>> so talk about the urging of the caution there, helena. what are the risks to tracking immunity, especially when we still don't know so much about this virus, how long we are actually immune at this point. >> right. you just hit the nail on the head. essentially when it comes to the science, we don't know about immunity. we don't know how long that immunity lasts. and let's face it, many countries have struggled to get their hands on effective and reliable testing for all this. one doctor i spoke to in santiago this chile said he's worried people will have a false sense of security at a time when his icu cannot afford to see a spike in cases. then there's the societal question, the ethical question, could we see a dystopian two-tiered society. that's something that there is warning about. one harvard professional i spoke

to, glenn cohen, said he's worried that people might intentionally expose themselves to the virus. take listen. >> we have tons of people who are unemployed or desperate to enter in the job market and i am worried that the move to reopening the country and saying, well, we can just employ those with antibodies will leave significant portions of the population out. those people have families. those people have needs. and we have to be committed to supporting those people. otherwise, it may put people in the awkward position and the dangerous position of incentivizing them to get exposure to covid as a condition of re-entering the workforce. >> so professor cohen said he's worried about a black market for immunity passports. these are just some of the issues that governments are grappling with right now. yasmin. >> a lot of questions here as we grapple with the economic fallout from the overall shutdown. helena humphrey, matt bradley, thank you, guys. still ahead, we're seeing

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liberate several states and praising the georgia governor brian kemp's decision to reopen nonessential businesses including boling allies and massage parlors, the president outwardly disagreed with the decision yesterday. >> i told the governor of georgia, brian kemp, that i disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase one guidelines. there's a lot of good feeling between myself and brian kemp. i like him a lot. i happen to disagree with him only in timing. i disagree. when you have spas, beauty parlors -- and i love these people. i know the people from spas and beauty parlors, tattoo parlors, bikers for trump. a lot of tattoos. i love them. i love these people. and barber shops. these are great people. but you know what? maybe you wait a little bit longer until you get into a phase two. so do i agree with him?

no. but i respect him and i will let him make his decision. would i do that? no. i'd keep them a little longer. i want to protect people's lives. but i'm going to let him make his decision. but i told him, i totally disagree. >> so despite the president's disapproval, as he says there, governor kemp will go forward with the plan, quote, driven by data to, quote, protect the lives and livelihoods of all georgians. also, as stay at home orders across the country continue to stay in place, anger is rising among state officials about the tremendous restrictions while protesters from virginia to california, they honk the horns of their vehicles yesterday to avoid frustrations with the shutdowns. in washington state, jay inslee is sticking with his stay at home order saying it is working to stop the spread of the virus. but the sheriff says he will not

enforce the order. a republican candidate has sued inslee over the ban on religious gatherings. in nevada, mayor of las vegas is pushing to reopen the casinos and hotels saying the responsibility to reopen safely will fall on individual businesses. nevada's culinary workers union responded to the mayor's comment saying this, we've had 11 culinary union members die because of covid-19. the mayor's statements, they are outrageous considering front line workers have been dealing with the consequences of this crisis firsthand. and the democratic governor of nevada tweeted this, the state of nevada is committed to protecting our residents and welcoming back visitors to a safe environment when the time is right. we take this seriously. new york state governor andrew cuomo had a message for

protesters in albany want to go return to work. >> is there a fundamental right to work if the government can't get me the money when i need it? >> do you want to -- do you want to go to work? go take the job as an essential worker. do it tomorrow. you're working. >> i am. >> you're an essential worker. so go take the job as an essential worker. >> also, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, he's facing some backlash from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle after suggesting that states hit hard by coronavirus, they should file for bankruptcy rather than pushing for federal aid or more federal aid at that. here is what mcconnell said yesterday during an interview with conservative radio show host hue hewitt. >> we're not ready to just send a blank check down to states and local governments to spend any way they choose to. i i would certainly be in favor of allowing states to use the

bankruptcy route. it could save some cities and there's no good reason for it not to be available. my guess is their first choice would be for the federal government to borrow money for future generations to send it down to them now so they don't have to do that. that's not something i'm going on be in favor of. >> all right. so a lot of people speaking out about this. republican congressman peter king of new york, one of the hardest hit states, as you all well know, slammed mcconnell for those comments tweeting in part this, mcconnell's dismissive remark that states devastated by coronavirus should go bankrupt rather than get the federal assistance they need and that they deserve is shameful and indefensible. to say that it is, quote, free money to provide funds for cops, firefighters and health care workers makes mcconnell the marie antoinette of the senate. joining me now once again, peggy

collins. wow, quite au statement from mitch mcconnell. we know from the jump of this, you heard governor andrew cuomo saying a couple of billion dollars is not going to do what we need to do because we are losing so much money because of this coronavirus. what are you making of mcconnell's statements? >> this certainly is an issue that is brewing and becoming more and more a part of the conversation on congress and among lawmakers. so we are expected to basically have the next phase of a stimulus for small businesses, an injection of more cash there about 320 billion, more money for hospitals and testing. congress seems to have gotten to agreement on that. so the next front that is building is around added help for states, local municipalities, there is a number of people in congress who are pushing for more money to

come from the federal reserve, specifically for state and local governments. there's some there in the stimulus bill, but it's limited in terms of the maturity of municipal bonds that the fed can buy. so there is the next in terms of the state and local governments. some state and local governments are still struggling or just it took them years to get back from the financial crisis alone. so they are on the front line and certainly struggling right now to pay bills because of the crush of tax revenue as well as trying to help out in terms of health care and other services. >> i'm sure we're going to be hearing more pushback from mcconnell's statements from current state governors right now, as well. peggy collins, thank you, as always. still ahead, a check on some severe weather ripping a big portion of the country. what you need to know also about today's forecast. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment.

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welcome back, everybody. we want to bring in meteorologist bill karins. bad weather is never a good sign as we deal with this pandemic and stopping the spread of it. on top of that now, a lot of folks in the country dealing with potentially some severe weather. talk us through it. >> all right. so last night, yasmin, we have a tornado that was on the ground maybe for the possibility of four to five areas. it went from areas of texas all the way through louisiana. that's just north of the houston area and south of lubkin. they had three fatalities. this is near the lake livingston area. there's still search and rescue ongoing overnight in the middle of a pandemic in areas around polk county and some of those

storms went into louisiana, too. biloxi mobile, southern portions of alabama, you still have a threat through the early morning hours here about a random tornado or two that could be moving through. that tornado watch is in effect until 1:00 central daylight time. and then this line of storms will continue. it's not like it's going to stop. it should regenerate areas from atlanta south wards through tallahassee. 30 million people at risk for severe storms and there is a possibility of a few strong tornados. this is the same area that has been hit time after time late march into april. a huge area from nachase to jackson, and our friends in starkville are under a flash flood warning. to the northeast, an active

weather pattern. it will be rainy and damp from d.c. to boston. strong storms in florida. if you get one day to get outside and do something, it will be on saturday in the areas of the northeast. then another shot of rain into the ohio valley. guess where that is heading on sunday? into areas of the northeast again. so an ugly friday, an ugly sunday. not severe weather, but just not the type of weather you're going to want to get outside in and be around your yard if you can safely be anywhere around where you live. let's get into the numbers. i've been promising to give you these just about every single day. let me show you what is happening with the fatality curves. yesterday was the fifth deadly evidence day with 2,350 deaths reported. today by the time it ends we'll be close to 50,000 fatalities by about midnight tonight. and the new cases, we really thought -- i was praying and hoping that we would really take a dive on these numbers this week. yesterday was another big number, 30,000,000 new cases

reported. and yasmin, we still have states that aren't reporting peak cases. so even though the new yorks in new york have come down about half, illinois, connecticut, delaware, kansas, new mexico, all five of those states reported a record high of new cases yesterday. >> and that's what a lot of folks were worried about because the shutdown in new york was happening and that we were peaking and other states would begin to see the effects of this coronavirus and the cases would keep ticking up. gosh, we all need to get on the same page here and start to flatten that curve. i hope states across the country begin to see a downturn in cases, as well. still ahead, ear going to go live to cnbc for an early look at what is driving the day on wall street. as we go to break, i want to share some light hearted news during challenging times. feeding your hunger with endless pasta and bread sticks, olive garden is now filling the void for high schoolers who might

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welcome back, everybody. in a couple hours, a new jobless claims report will be released with another anticipated wave of americans filing for unemployment benefits. with that, i want to bring in cnbc's julianna tatelbaum, joining us live from london on this. every thursday, we expect these numbers coming out. not necessarily good news, as we've seen the last five weeks or so. what are you expecting to see this morning, julianna? >> absolutely. this is always a pretty crucial event for markets, the are lere of this report. now more than ever.

economists expect it'll be less bad than last week, but still a grim set of numbers. economists estimate 4.3 million americans have filed for unemployment in the latest week. that's down from 5.2 million in the week previous. in total, around 22 million people have filed for jobless claims in the past month as a result of the coronavirus and the lockdowns associated with it. we should brace for even more claims in the coming weeks, especially now from the state and local governments. they are warning that a wave of lay-offs and pay cuts are coming. this comes after they were left out of federal coronavirus relief package funds that are expected to pass fully this week. in many places, like detroit, los angeles, we're already seeing more cuts under way. they're pleading for new relief. at this point, we have to wait and see if we get more from washington. a grim picture when we think about employment in the united states at this point. yasmin? >> let's talk about airlines and

auto makers here. i know they're trying to come up with ways to bring employees back to work, but also to get passengers back on board. folks to start buying cars again, that kind of stuff. talk us through what exactly they're doing. >> you might have seen it beforbefor already. aggressive advertisement by the airlines, trying to convince the public and lure passengers back in, on the basis that they're taking a lot of safety precautions. doing a lot to make the aircraft safe for passengers. things like blocking out middle seats. restricting food service. fogging cabins. really trying to think about how they're going to reopen business when the economy does eventually reopen. here in europe, just to put it out there, ryan arks oir, one o key, low-cost carriers, won't return to flying if they have to

leave the middle seats vacant. automakers trying to get the lights back on. it's a long road ahead. >> i have an idea. lower prices. that'll get people back on the airlines and flying once again. if the prices remain high, as we've been seeing -- >> it would help. >> -- that could remain a problem. it'd help. julianna tatelbaum, live from london, thank you, as always. we have a big show ahead. axios' one big thing. on "morning joe," as protesters across the country continue to demonstrate against their state stay at home orders, lawmakers, including senator mark warner, will be our guests. "morning joe" is moments away. today, being on your side means staying home... "nationwide office of customer advocacy." ...but we can still support you and the heroes who are with you. we're giving refunds on auto insurance premiums, assisting customers with financial hardships, and our foundation is contributing millions of dollars to charities helping with covid-19 relief.

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so what you see is what you pay. featuring the emmy award-winning voice remote. access to your favorite apps, including netflix, prime video, youtube and hulu. all without changing passwords and inputs. the most 4k content and movies and shows on any screen. the best entertainment experience all in one place. welcome back, everybody. joining us from washington with a look at axios am, editor in chief for axios, nicholas johnston. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> talk about axios' one big thing today. >> today's one big thing is colleges coming cliff. we have hundreds of thousands of high schoolers graduating into an uncertain world, about what they'll be doing next fall as far as colleges.

why it matters on this trend is that it is accelerating something we're already seeing, putting pressure on colleges, particularly smaller colleges, with enrollment pressures on whether or not they're going to survive. colleges are already going through a lot. they've closed classes in the spring, moved to online learning. that's been a lot of consternation for students, not feeling they're getting the same education as otherwise. if we see that stretch into the fall, that could lead to a lot of questions for high schoolers, if they feel they're getting their money's worth by paying full tuition for colleges being conducted online and remotely. that could lead to a continuing trend of drops in enrollment, which we already saw last year. that could accelerate and increase and bring a financial hit to many colleges. some colleges are warning about the costs of the coronavirus. university of michigan system, for instance, said they may have $1 billion to get through this. if the costs are still online next year, and enrollment drops, that could lead to closures for smaller colleges that are enrollment dependent, don't have room for error.

it can accelerate a trend we've seen with smaller colleges closing. another footnote, this is an impact on college sports. the cancellation of march madness led to millions of dollars of cuts for television revenue for many universities. if this affects college football, it could be hundreds of millions of dollars and could spread to other sports. college sports are supported by football and basketball. it could lead to other college sports going under, as well. >> there's so much fallout from this. i want to talk about another disturbing report from axios on a drug company more than tripling the price of its fda-approved drug after asking the federal government to expand its use to coronavirus patients. >> right. this is a perfect encapsulation of the drug debate for pricing that's happening in the country. jaguar health had a drug for hiv aids testing, which they're trying to use for coronavirus, as well.

they've gone to the fda for the expansion. in the process, they tripled the price from $600 to over $2,000 for that kind of treatment. that fits exactly to what the criticisms of drug companies are, that they're facing these price hikes exactly when the drugs are most used. the flip side is that jaguar health, as early as this year, warned they'd go out of business if they couldn't sell more of the drug. they made $6 million last year. the company is saying without fda approval or higher prices, they wouldn't be able to keep making this drug. it is exactly the tension involved in the drug pricing debate argument in this country, between whether keeping the drugs can be affordable for patients, and how much money the companies should be allowed to make to finance operations. >> thank you, nicholas johnston. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me on this thursday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. we're taking very special care of our nursing homes and

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