event since the pandemic started. the obvious advantage here is -- drivers work alone. but pit crews and race teams work together and it will still bring together a lot of people. fans will be watching from home. other sports will be watching as well. our report from nbc's sam brock. >> reporter: nascar returns full throttled in just over 48 hours, after hitting the brakes for more than two months during the pandemic. >> our first priority is to make sure that we put on the safest event. >> reporter: but the roaring engines will fill an empty stadium with no fans allowed at the raceway. sunday also marks the first time ryan newman will be back behind the wheel since this horrific crash at the daytona 500. we spoke about his interview in an interview set to air saturday. you survived a near-death experience, any hesitation at

all about coming back? >> none at all. not even a second. really, not even a second because it's a combination of my love and desire for our sport. >> reporter: from the track to the greens, the pga has a charity tournament this weekend in florida the full tour is getting ready to tee off in june in ft. worth, texas. safety precautions include testing players and no hand shakes on the course. major league baseball commissioner facing questions about testing on cnn. >> what are the parameters you're thinking about. >> extension protocols -- frequent testing and all of our players would be tested multiple times. >> reporter: commissioner rob manfred remaining bullish on baseball near july. >> i'm not playing unless i get money. >> reporter: the tampa bay rays, snell said he won't play for a

reduced salary over a shortened season. >> i'm sorry if you guys think differently, but the risk is weigh higher than the amount of money i make. >> the nba hachbt ma-- hasn't me a decision on return to play. florida's governor recently rolling out the welcome mat. >> all professional sports are welcome here for practicing and for playing. now we're not going to necessarily have fans. >> reporter: that will be the case when nascar returns to florida with 12 new races added through june, none with spectators. >> i think it's a great opportunity for us to go out there and be one of the first major sports to bah okay on tck television. >> nbc's sam brock with that report. so, nicolle n a word it's

confusing. like everything else it's wrapped up in human nature and everything else these days it's wrapped up in politics. it's not just a pure discussion about sports. >> well, today we're all nascar fans, right? i think it's so interesting to go back to where we started with the lancet the medical journal, if you just look at the health headlines today, the science today is that this transmitted -- cough into our arms, sneeze into our arms, you can now transfer the droplets if you're covid-positive by talking. any sport that puts athletes face to face would be under really harsh scrutiny for all the same reasons the rest of us are. it's not just that we could infect each other, it's that we bring it into our homes and

communities. 87,000 homes are missing someone they love. it's deadly serious. it transpires sports. so, it's an important story. i'm glad we got to do it. >> thank you for having me, enjoy your weekend. >> thank you for spending some time with me. up next -- the risks and fears as americans return to work. that's next. special delivery ♪

as states continue to reopen and in many incidents against the advice of scientists, new poll experts suggest that majority of americans aren't ready to go back. 58% of americans fear being exposed of the virus and infecting other members of their households. within nonwhite communities those concerns are much higher, 72% among latinos and 68% among african-americans communities. quote, we're not essential, we're sacrificial. she writes this, the conditions

created by the pandemic drive home the fact that essential workers, workers in general, are the ones who keep the social order from sink into chaos but we're treated with the utmost disrespects as we're extendable. your op-ed several days ago it was published stopped me in my tracks and i recirculated, take our viewers through your powerful words in that place. >> oh, i'm a conductor. the first death came it was like -- i wasn't you know shocked or something i just said, it's coming. then quickly, more deaths followed. and our coworkers and myself, we used a facebook to express grief

and sadness but really when i looked at it's more curiosity as an onlooker. so since march 27th until now, it's 116 deaths at the mta. 113 are the subways. people continue to die and we're also going into work, i mean not me now, but we're also going into work thinking, is it going to be me today? because, i mean, first of all, i think that subways and platforms are like giant vectors of this virus. we're already breathing in the steel dust and now we're along with steel dust we're also breathing in this virus. and we're not -- we're not -- we

were not given ppe, protective equipment, initially they said, you know, you can't wear ppe because it will panic the public and then they said, you can't wear it, it's -- then they said -- i'm sorry. >> keep going. >> yeah, then they said, okay, if you want to buy it yourself you can wear it. finally after a lot of demand for ppe they came back with it. but it's more like a fig leaf, okay, you demand it here, that's it, don't bother us anymore. it's that kind of attitude, any of the things they're doing for mta workers is like, step yelling, stop crying, take the ppe. the masks are cheap, they break and we only get one mask per three days. and one pair of gloves every day and i think it's three swabs,

you know, when you go to the doctor's office they clean your, you know the place where they give your shot with an alcohol swab, we get three of those things, you know, and things are getting worse, people were even stumbling into dead bodies, the train conductor was walking through the train and almost tripped over the dead body. and there was another one sitting upright at 34th street and it's like right in front of the conductor's window, we noticed that the body -- the man is not moving after eight hours of trip, we said, okay, this guy is dead and then we informed them. >> so, can i ask you -- do you feel that anyone in the city or state is listening to the health concerns, a 116 people have lost their lives, they made this

decision to shut down subway service, i think, between 1:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. to clean the trains. are they trying and failing or they're not even listening to your concerns. >> we demanded the care, but when it comes out and looks bad for the public they start doing it. they're not doing it in spirit just for the sake of saying, okay, we have done that, that's the kind of spirit, if you look at ppe, they're cheap and they break, if you look at train cleaning, they look cleaner now but it's like, my coworkers and i go in and we wipe it and it comes out black. it's only from 1:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. by 5:15 the homeless are back and i'm not against homeless and i don't want to be talking about

them like -- but, you know, they're just hurting them from the train to buses and then at 5:00 a.m., 5:15 a.m. they're coming back and the buses they're using the homeless, they're also are buses for transit to practice social distancing. >> we're glad to talk with you. if you live in new york the safety of all the people that work in jobs like yours is of utmost concern. it's a story we won't stop covering. i hope we can call on you again. thank you very much for the piece you wrote and for spending some time with us today to talk about it. up next -- as white house threatens a veto of the relief package senator mitch mcconnell admits he was wrong about something he said about

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this week we witnessed something very rare, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell admitted he was wrong. on monday, the senator condemned president obama for condemning donald trump's coronavirus response. >> we want to be early, ready for the next one. because clearly the obama administration did not leave to this administration any kind of game plan for something like this. >> but they did. and former obama administration officials quickly spoke up to say so, they quote, left behind a literal playbook to deal with something just like this. forcing this about-face from mcconnell. >> you said that the previous administration didn't leave a

plan, they pushed back against that -- >> i was wrong, they did leave behind a plan. i clearly made a mistake in that regard. as to whether or not the plan was followed and i don't have any observation about that because i don't know enough about the details of that. >> joining our conversation, new york democratic senator and senate minority leader chuck schumer. senator schumer, it's refreshing these days so close to donald trump admit they were wrong. but to say he doesn't have enough information the country is in week nine or ten of historic level of infections, historic collapse of our economy, historic number of deaths in such short period of time was almost as jarring as the original line. >> exactly. i mean, my guess is if donald trump had gofollowed that we wod

be in better shape. the administration has no plan. yesterday, he had another grandiose announcement on vaccinations. i hope they succeed, we need vaccinations. donald trump always has these grand announcements and then fol le-through. two months ago he said, everybody who wants a test can get a test. we're still behind in tests. this crisis might be less virulent than it is right here. president obama put together an extensive plan. donald trump seems to have no plan than anything, announcement with no follow-through, no agencies marching together to get something done. the next day, there's picking on somebody, you know, finding a

foil, mcconnell find obama, they're going after biden, they go after china, they go after w.h.o., there's no real focus by this administration to roll their sleeves up and solve the problem. i suggest they read the obama plan. >> or read the lancet, the medical journal out with a stunning recommendation for americans to replace donald trump in the fall because of a lack of what we're talking about, the lack of a plan, they boil it down to three things -- test, trace and isolate. to your understanding, what's the reason that the white house gives for not really having either -- any of those three practices -- >> they don't -- >> out yet. >> they don't give reasons, they lash out. i called the president and said, why don't you invoke the dpa, the defense production act and commandeer the factories and the supply chains so we would have enough supplies.

the reaction was just a nasty letter calling me names. this president has shown such lack of focus and direction in the midst of the greatest crisis we have seen since the great depression that many americans who might have been said maybe he's okay, scratching their head saying, he's not for the job. at best what they say, donald trump says, i want to pause. mitch mcconnell says he doesn't see the urgent need for action. to talk to a small business person who's spent years creating with blood, sweat and tears a business that's now falling apart. talk to people who are waiting for hours on food pantry lines, you see the cars all lined up, or to someone who's lost his job and is ready to be victimed from his house or his apartment. there are so many urgent needs,

that's what we're trying to do. we'd like to work with republicans, we don't expect them to agree with everything. this idea we don't have to do anything, it's eerily reminiscent of herbert hoover, when the stock market began to crash, i just want to leave it alone the private sector will solve it. the private sector can't solve problems of such magnitude. but somehow mitch mcconnell and the president cling to that belief. >> the people who lost everything are the most susceptible to the nonscience, nondata rush to reopen and i wonder what you say to people in your state, people all over the country, who are literally a ll agitating to get out of those lockdown orders, wisconsin made it the law of the land there, something their governor called the wild wild west, what do you

say about that tension -- >> i understand, first of all, i understand the anxiety people want to earn a salary, they want to get back to work, but if we too soon, without the advice of science, if we let a thousand of people, who hold automatic weapons to determine what we do we'll lose out. look at what dr. fauci said yesterday, he spoke the truth and you can't ignore the truth in a crisis like this. donald trump always ignores the truth. yesterday he said there are two sides to what dr. fauci said. so, we need science to govern us on how to open up because if we don't open up in the right way, this could come back with a vengeance and even worse. you have to have a bit of a long-term perspective. i sympathize with the anxieties of people. the best thing we can do right

now is listen to the scientists and come up with testing, if we had a test available for everybody in the degree we need it, this crisis could be greatly decreased and we could get the economy going. the mayor of new rochelle, the first city quarantined, a city in the suburbs of new york city, i called him that day, what do you mean? he said i have 70,000 people. get me 70,000 tests, i can test everybody and those who have the virus i'll say you must stay inside for two weeks so it doesn't spread or go to the hospital if it's virulent. those who don't have the virus can go to the work, go to the stores, shop in comfort knowing they won't be exposed to others because those who have the virus will be in quarantine. we need testing, we need tracing, we need the -- the scientists know what to do and the other countries who have been much stricter about this, a

new zealand, south korea, are in much better shape than we are. you can't ignore the truth and science. donald trump seems to encourage the small groups. i do fault the media, 100 with confederate flags, and they're giving a lot of attention, they shouldn't be governing our policy and i understand donald trump is egging them on but still. >> take solace, senator schumer, in the fact that large swaths of the american public see this as you do, as i do, it's a lot safer to stay home. and we always welcome your media criticism, i take them to heart. >> i meant it with affection -- >> no, no. it's got to be a part of the conversation. it all starts with telling the truth. coming up -- donald trump putting politics over public health. "deadline: white house" is next. . our homes.

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hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. today an astone iring call to action from one of the world's most prestigious medical journals outright calling for americans to choose a new president as donald trump's retreat from leadership on coronavirus puts human lives at risk. from that medical journal, quote the administration is obsessed with magic bullets, vaccines,

new medications or hopes that the virus will simply disappear. only a reliance on basic health princip principles, like test, trace and isolate, adding americans must put a president in the white house who understands that public health shouldn't be guided by politics. the lancet also offers a sobering are e buick of the president's magical thinking that only good science and public health crisis can solve. trump at an event today designed to highlight his administration's progress on a coronavirus vaccine made this brazen declaration. >> i just want to make something clear -- it's very important -- vaccine or no vaccine, we're

back. and we're starting the process and in many cases they don't have vaccines and a virus or a flu comes and you fight through it. >> set aside for a minute here that the president still appears to be making some comparisons between coronavirus and the flu. always down playing the importance of a vaccine, trump insistence, aside from the occasional band of protesters the president has cheered on his twitter feed, poll after poll shows an american public still largely listening to the health warnings and very weary of ending stay at home orders. a majority of americans are still not willing to assume normal activities, like eating at a restaurant, shopping mall. 69% don't feel comfortable

sending their kids to school. the country also understands what they're hearing from their state and local leaders that we're suffering from a staggering incompetent effort to test enough americans for the coronavirus. 73% of americans believe they're not enough tests available in this country. a chorus of medical experts including trump's own health advisers agree and the demand for testing makes extraordinary this suggestion from the president last night. that the whole testing issue is overrated. >> it could be the testing is frankly overrated. maybe it is overrated. but whatever they start yelling, we want more, we want more, they always say we want more, we want more, they don't want to give you credit. but we have the greatest testing in the world and don't forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world but why? because we do more testing.

when you test you have a case. when you test you find something is wrong with people. if we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases. they don't want to write it. it's commonsense. >> donald trump choose to count all of these cases in this country or not, the sick still suffer, and as of this hour, today in the u.s., more than 1.4 million people have tested positive with coronavirus and nearly 87,000 americans have died. numbers that donald trump's own administration officials now agree undercounterthe true toll. the president's denial in face of that painful reality is where we start today. white house reporter from pbs is back. dr. peter hotez is back with us. and john heilemann is back.

>> you've been asking the harsh questions, vaccine or no vaccine, we're back. how did he arrive at that point at his own vaccine event? >> he's frankly gotten tired of this idea that states are closed and that people are having to hunker down. he's just lost his patience that he has to continue to listen to the scientists and that more testing is needed. test is a bipartisan issue. we saw earlier this week, republican senators and democratic senators say testing is what we need if we're going to reopen. the president today shifted back was, starting to compare the virus against the flu. i think the moment you played was the moment from today, the moment for the week, the president said we're back, vaccine or no vaccine, treatment or no treatment, i want our

economy going back to where it was. >> you know, john, i'm coming to you because i don't want to drag peter hotez into the president's observation. he won because enough of his primal instincts tapped into enough people in enough states to deliver him an electoral victory but it was largely about throwing out the establishment. right now, you got 69% of all americans not willing to send their kids to school, you've got upwards of 70% and 80% of americans not ready to go to restaurants, bars, gyms. to open up the economy without instilling in people the confidence that you can open safely seems to be where donald trump dealt himself out of the reopening conversation. >> right, can i say something

first, nicolle? hi, nice to see you. i love having fridays with you and i miss you so much. i can't -- i can't stand it that we're not together for all these weeks. >> it's a terrible substitute. >> the man is idiot. at the start, listening to that sound, he's just an idiot. he's just a moron. the idea of the president of the united states stands up and says, the problem with testing is that if we test we have more cases. that's what he said. if we test we have more cases. you know what? the testing doesn't make the cases. the testing reveals the cases. the number of cases out there is the number of cases out there. the testing helps know how many there are. he literally believes that the problem with testing is that it's somehow gives us more cases and that's bad. it's bad for his politics. so just the sheer of idiocy. -- >> i get a mammogram every year,

but if i had a bad mammogram i wouldn't blame the mammogram. i mean, anyone who takes a parent to the doctor to have any sort of test or a kid at the doctor's office reveals, tells you about the sickness and helps you treat it. john, you put your nail on the head of the largest problem people who work for donald trump are dealing with. he doesn't understand the health crisis. >> i think what it is, i think he might understand that the tests don't indicate -- it's not that the tests equal the problem the problem is, it's all about pr for him. if there's a test, the test is -- that can read a case. if we have to count a case it creates a bad number. if that creates a bad number

that creates bad politics for him. he'd rather not have so much testing, we would have just as much virus and we wouldn't know about it. it wouldn't be such a headache for him. which brings us back to your point, look, the man was in 2016 in some cases kind of a genius for taking all of this inadequacies and all of the ways he wasn't qualified to be president and still managing to pull that inside straight and win enough votes in just enough places as you said, he's so far right now on the wrong side of this issue, do you trust him on what he's saying at the virus? it's not just getting his drubbed on the crisis overall, you see what's happening for him with his base, you see what's happening with him with men, white noncollege, with seniors, the core of the trump coalition,

if you look at the exit polls in 2016 and where they are right now, he's bleeding out in all of those areas and i'm not trying to say it's recover or that trump can't win. he can win. he can recover. right now you see a man, on this baimgate spree all week, he's focused on base -- feeding the base and a president who's focused on feeding the base in the spring of a re-election year is a president who knows he's in deep, deep -- >> i can't agree with you more. i also think dr. hotez, to bring this back to the science and driving the president into the corner that he finds himself in, i agree with the motivations behind the hand waving, i do think he's up against something that he can can't spin his way out of, people can handle the bad news about where we are and i think people are even willing to entertain the possibility

that we'll have to find safe ways to go back to some of the things that we used to do i think most people before they drop their child off a school will be tested, especially anyone with a fever and most people want to know their workplaces have testing. what trump wants and needs is the thing that he's holding up which is adequate testing. can you talk about the pieces that are needed to get us as a country through these next hurdles, these next steps safely? >> i mean, what he wants to do, nicolle, i understand he wants to start implements the economic recovery plan and he's bringing together business leaders and making sound approaches towards that goal and he's enlisted a lot of the governors and they're bringing in important people in the business community, but the problem is, the steps haven't been adequately taken to ensure that that economic recovery will

be sustained. what i mean by that, if you simply open up the economy right now all of the models pretty much show that there will be a sharp increase, uptick in the number of covid-19 cases as we move into the summer and fall months and that potentially could derail any attempts of economic recovery, so that there's not been this effort to put in place a public health system that's commerce rate to sustain the economy, that has to do with testing in the workplace, ramping up contact tracing, having sophisticated app systems for syndromic surveillance, communications plan, models for each of those cities, now the cdc is starting to get unfettered a bit to get some of those plans in place, until then we had to rely on private universities for doing this in georgetown -- harvard

and columbia, we're still not there yet, it's not just the testing it's putting that whole eco system that needs to be implemented to sustain the economy. i'm worried things will become unstable as we head into the weeks and months ahead the election. cases go up. an attempt to deflect and blame others. it could be a very unstable time in america. >> the relationship between the president and tony fauci seems more unstable than at other points. you have spoken in personal terms about his respect of him, what do you make of the fact after his testimony which he did from home because he's self-isolating right now, because one of donald trump's and mike pence's close aides, the vice president's press secretary has tested positive for covid so dr. fauci is on the job i'm sure 24/7 but doing so from home. he testified on the decisions about schools, we would have to learn more and we shouldn't rush

to make those decisions without understanding the potential dangerous effects on kids of covid, that invited a rebuke from donald trump of course in front of the cameras, what do you make of the fact that tony fauci seems to be backed by every scientist that speaks out in terms of the science and public health that's needed to beat this virus? >> yeah, i know tony, dr. fauci is in a tight spot. he's got to stay true to the science and i think he is. but there are a lot of other considerations that are out there and a lot of them are not under his control. we saw this with the white house announcement today with the vaccine, and again, there's been two very competent scientists put in charge of this new initiative, a vaccine scientist out of glaxo smithkline.

but, again, you're going to get this crunch that there's going to be a lot of pressure to get the vaccine out there before the election right around the time of the election, and the truth is, i don't see a path by which he can collect enough safety data and enough data that these vaccines work by then. i envision there could be some tensions yet again, because the phase three clinical trials for both efficacy and safety probably won't begin until the summer. the only agreement is, these vaccines will be ready by the fall the disagreement is, whether we're talking about the fall of 2020 or fall of 2021. i don't see a path by which it happens before fall of 2021. a source of friction i predict as well. >> one more question about vaccines, also pointed out, this is just startling, there's no path to do so with the adequate

safety test for vaccine, we're talking about vaccinating the entire population, something that, i mean, most people are vaccinated. for the flu shot, everyone is obviously welcome to get vaccinated but we don't -- i don't assume we manufacture enough vaccines if for entire american population, how can we make enough vaccines for the whole country? >> it's very ambitious, there are some plans under way. one of the ways is to recognize there won't be just one vaccine, there may be three, four, if you can make a lot of each of those three or four, you make have choices of vaccines to scale up. it's a manufacturing problem as well. and i think that's one of the tensions that we have seeing at the white house. you know if you listen to the vice president or the president they always talk about it in manufacturing terms like making enough ventilators or making

enough diagnostic kits and so it's a manufacturing problem, but the longer time frame is really that adequate safety testing and testing to show that it works. and i think that's -- that's going to require some education of the white house by this new vaccine team. it's a good team in place. but there's going to be steep learning curve there. >> i want to come back to the president's -- what appears to be exasperation with all of that dr. hotez took us through, timetable for vaccines, the challenges, he's very overtly on the side of the people and he calls them his supporters, so i'm not labeling them so, he's trying to own the protesters for faster reopenings, how does that land? does that give anyone consternation in the white house for the president to be so firmly on the side of the protesters and not backing up

the governors to whom he's turned over testing and tracing and all sort of things he needs to go well? >> a source at the white house once told me something and is that the way to survive at this white house, the trumped a main administration is to ride the president's moods. get onboard on what the president decides the way he's going to go forward and stick by him. in this case, are there scientists in the white house? dr. fauci in front of congress was very clear that he didn't agree with the idea that you rush into reopening. but if you're talking about people around the president, that are going to push back on him on the way he's handling the reopening. in 2016, he shocked everyone. he leaned in on his political instincts. he talked frankly about race and people said it was racist, and

some of them said it was him not being politically correct. he won the white house. now the president is banking on that same political instinct and saying, this is the way i get reelected. thank you dr. fauci for your opinions and the science but at the end of the day i'm the one who's running the country. the president said very clearly today there's rachk when it comes to how quickly we're doing these vaccines. but he says it's worth the risk in the president's mind to go back even people aren't reopen. >> you know, john, i want to come back to where you started with trump's political panic and i know we're out of time. we got to get on the record with this. so here's the thing -- when he ran in 2016 people thought little enough, certainly republican voters thought little enough about the republican establishment, that they were willing to give, you know, the clubhouse leader of the republican party jacket to him.

they're not going to turn over a doctor's lab coat to donald trump and make decisions about their parents' health, whether their parents can stay in a nursing homes, their babies can go to school, i do not think the same numbers who trusted donald trump to wear the lab coat put on the white coat, risks of vaccines bedamned. i just don't think he's playing on the same field that he was playing on in 2016. >> right, so, nicolle, you'll know more about this than me because you used to be a member of the party. what happened at the end of 2016 after the access hollywood tape, there was a large question about whether republican regs would come home the donald trump the key element of the campaign was focused on, could they get roughly 90% of normal republican voters to show up for trump?

that's what was in jeopardy. the pure politics of it. the possibility that the republican regs, that the suburban republican voters, country club like that group, when trump was able to not have a lot of defections over that access hollywood weekend and the party didn't turn on him over that weekend they then spent the next month if you recall, trump focusing almost exclusively on the economy the last couple of weeks, the comey letter happened, trump was very disciplined and was doing things with a very clear eye driven by bannon to make sure he didn't alienate main stream republicans. for those republicans who trump -- we talked about them as suburban voters, white voters in the suburbs, if those voters -- if they gave their loyalty to trump once because they wanted

to blow things up in washington, they won't anti-accomplishment, they didn't trust hillary clinton, et cetera, the cavalier way he's talking about public health the degree to which the country overwhelming doesn't trust him on an issue that's life and death, the fact that you've seen this erosion amongst seniors is so dramatic, trump won seniors going away in 2016 and not only has that gap shrunk, but biden is way ahead with seniors in battleground states because they're the most vulnerable with this virus. the difference between donald trump as the did disrupt or the as medical officer in chief, what that means for those republican regular voters who took a gamble with him in 2016 but looking at him right now i think in the polling right now are kind of going, no, not this time. >> john heilemann, dr. peter

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believe it or not, wearing a mask is becoming a partisan

issue the washington post reporting on new research which found a 14% disparity between democrats and republicans when it comes to wearing makes. . that trend was evident by some on capitol hill today. members of house are voting on the latest coronavirus relief bill and jake sherman of politico noted that some republican lawmakers have been huddling face to face not only not wearing masks but also not social distancing. experts continue to stress that masks are critical in limiting the spread of the disease. a new study found that just talking could leave droplets in the air for at least 14 minutes. joining us now is sean patrick maloney, you're on capitol hill. i have it on good authority you've been wearing your mask around, is this -- is this for real, the republicans are, what, too cool for masks, really? >> yeah, look, you know, i'm old enough to remember when, you know, people tried to set a good

example when they were in a position of authority. the point is is that we know that this is courtesy to others if you yourself have the virus and not yet have symptoms. it's protect others. it's an extraordinary act of selfishness when you think about the staff, there are hundreds of people who support the members of congress going about their votes. it's just rude and uncourteous to them. it also sets a bad example. >> i mean, here's a piece that doesn't add up for me, your colleagues on the republican side, some of the president's staunchest political allies, what the president wants and he said today, vaccine or no vaccine we're back. those were his own words. the only way to get people to go back don't want to go back until there are therapies or vaccines. is to do things like wearing a make and social distancing, why

wouldn't his ally bs the most sort of devoted followers that let people do the things that needs help to open up. >> whlet's do what works. in my part of the world it's going make sense that we do things that make sense. in new york we're seeing regions open but based on the evidence, number of cases, good metrics that the governor has put down. if people see progress toward the goal they understand the whole system makes sense. i think when people blow it off, they act like it's a joke, it just seeds more confusion. >> governor of new york, governor cuomo making announcement today that new york sort of in concert with our neighboring states will look to reopen in a safe, restricted socially distanced way the

beaches of new york, new jersey, connecticut and delaware by memorial day weekend. a little bit of good and bad, also extending the stay at home order. take us through life in your district. >> we're right between the two regions. so, we have a little bit of both. if you talked to guys working construction outside in small teams or landscaping businesses, tree services they know they can operate safely now. they're probably right. we're starti ing elective surgeries, that's right. and so, i just want to see steady progress based on the evidence, that allows me to go back to my folks and say, stay the course, it's working. . what my people really need right now they need the senate to pass the bill that the house is passing today. which will means trillion dollars to local and state governments.

it has real important help for our schools, our heroes, first responders, if they're not going to pass our plan, what's their big idea? they've got to do for these local governments. they'll have to lay off the very people who have been on the front line. >> i want to get your take on one of the issues in every household that i know back to school, new reporting in the state of new york, a few cases of this rare, pretty frightening inflammatory syndrome in kids related to covid-19. what's your take where the conversation is moving to on any decisions about going back to school in fall in. >> we have had several deaths in new york and it's frightening to parents and i understand that. the fact is, we have got to learn more about this virus. there's still a lot we don't know. for folks out there, wondering

this presents as a rash, an inflammatory condition, the kids may not have had visible symptoms of coronavirus. in most cases it's treatable. it obviously complicates the issue of going back to school. our teachers, man, we got into sport our teachers because we have doing such good work with distance learning and the rest. i have watched my kids personally i know how hard it is to keep those kids focused right now. got to support those teachers. let's follow the facts and the evidence and i think we can get kids back. >> on the point of teachers, the observation, we love them and thank them, i'm grateful for them. now they have my son as you said on zoom all day and me, e-mailing, texting, calling, you

know, teachers are really are on the front lines of this with every other hero that's getting us through it. congressman maloney, thank you so much for spending time with us. >> you bet, nicolle. one of six kids. when i got on the bus to kindergarten, my mom stood in the street and yelled. so let's support them. >> they deserve our support and more. after the break, no need to adjust your television. this actually happened. mitch mcconnell now admits he got something wrong about president obama. about esident obama. how about no no uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.

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as to whether or not the plan was followed and who's the critic and all the rest i don't have any observation about that because i don't know enough about the details of that. >> quite a concession from the senate majority leader, an admission that he was wrong. he said obama should keep his mouth shut. as you heard there, so far there's been no admission that trump administration said they were left empty handed. let's bring if communications director of the obama administration and reverend al sharpton. rev, we'll take an apology from a republican who lies every day of the week. what offended so many people and certainly supporters of

president obama and really anybody was this idea that he should shut his mouth. it wasn't just that he was wrong, but it was that mcconnell suggested that obama had no right to weigh in on how the current president was handling something that his administration had planned for. >> absolutely. when you look at his attitude like president obama, former president obama now, was just some boy that he could tell, just shut your mouth, this was the president of the united states for eight years and won both the popular and electoral vote by the way, and he left a plan that now he's even admitting he doesn't even know the details of it and doesn't know whether they followed it or not. maybe if they had followed it we would not be looking at the amounts of deaths and the amount of positive coronavirus tests that we're seeing.

but to just discard him like he was just some boy or some child was very offensive but i think even as important is the fact that if they had a plan that was presented to them and it was during the transition period between the obama and the trump administration, why did they ignore it and that's relevant when we're in the middle of this pandemic, giving breefle ining was a possibility. >> jennifer palmieri the politics of it is beyond idiotic, some of the exit polls from joe biden's sweeping primary victories -- there are some early hallmarks of the obama coalition very much coming back together the swelling numbers of suburban moms, the large turnout in african-american communities, this is -- this was the obama

coalition, it seems should donald trump come up short next november they might regret this period when they made former president obama public enemy number one of donald trump. >> it's not -- both trump and mitch mcconnell have a big problem with barack obama. he gets under their skin. when president obama was president and he bested mcconnell in battles with congress. where trump and mcconnell differed once mcconnell got it together he was able to walk away from that fight. it's very telling, they don't want to fight. senate republicans don't want to fight with president obama. he's the most popular political figure. lindsey graham said we don't

need to call president obama to testify on it. they don't want to pick a fight with the most popular politician in america. >> but rev, the fight has been picked. i think any sort of reference to plans that obama left just opened the floodgates for joe biden to say, i was part of that planning as well. it has to be unintentional because it's so politically moronic, the idea they're going to clap like trained seals when trump rants about obamagate, they're going to continue to march along, when he's actually doing things to his political disadvantage. >> moronic is the right word. political moronic to feed into what would be a gift for joe biden is to remind them there was a plan under the obama/biden administration and to pick a fight with someone who was the

most popular politician in the country, certainly the most popular democrat, why would you want to go up against something when you ought to be fighting with biden who may be weaker it makes no political sense which is why i think they're so blinded in their rage against obama for many reasons including race, they throw any political strategy to the wind because he really gets under their skin, they still can't -- since the birther movement get in their head that a man of color was the president of the united states and did an excellent job, so much so he was reelected and even now is ahead of this president in the polls and any other republican in the country. >> oh, he's way ahead of this president in the polls. george w. bush, my old boss, who didn't end his eight years on a high note, because of the economic, is more popular than

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office is tweeting conspiracy theories and jen and the rev is back. this is just so lovely, i think what trump's doing is besides the point -- president obama doing what an incumbent might have thought to do. but what the country will welcome from a former president. >> it's expected to get 1 billion to watch it. it's crazy. that's what they're expecting. president obama does not speak publicly often, he chooses those moments very carefully because he doesn't want to become, you know, make himself a political spectacle, a couple of news reports last week, you saw how mcconnell and trump reacted to that. this is not a moment of politics, but sees this as a moment of honoring these young students and bringing the country together and he'll be awesome at doing that. at the same time, you have to wonder how well, you know, how

else will this provoke trump, it shows what a valuable tool obama's going to be to joe biden in the campaign this fall, you know, if -- if, you know, trump sometimes uses it to distract us and sometimes he goes down rabbit holes and with president obama he goes down rabbit holes and it's hugely not to his benefit. >> people are so hungry for something that andrew cuomo talks about all the time. frankly ohio republican governor mike dewine displays it every day, so does governor larry hogan, in times of crisis people don't want partisanship, they don't view the coronavirus as something they want to see infected by partisanship or political ambition or political motives and i think the most

detrimental thing donald trump has done the entire response about his political re-election, his political survival, his numbers. >> that's where he's lost it. he's been so defensive looking at his re-election that he's not dealt with the gravity of what we are really facing as a human crisis in this countriened around the world and then for president obama to be able to on a day that's a crushing disappointment to many students graduating to give them hope and he himself symbolizing that hope, grew up, a single mother and was able to become the president of the united states after going through harvard and all, unlikely story, he personifies the hope that we need in these times. you contrast that with donald trump chasing people down rabbit holes, it's going to be a very bad weekend for donald trump. the real thing i think, nicolle,

that president obama does so well is that as donald trump and others chase him, he won't run. he almost looks at them like, are you kids playing with yourself? yourself? what are you doing over there? he stays above the fray which even makes him more ridiculous. >> it is such a good tease, jen, for what we are likely to see. president obama does have this unique ability to levitate above the political moment. i'm sure there will be a lot of observations about whether president obama helps to sort of bring in this moment yuoung people, the exact kind of voters who are some places are missing from joe biden's coalition. there will be a lot of accolades to not being partisan to doing something a normal president might have considered doing at this time. we are likely to see -- i'm

trying to stale out of the predictions business -- but i can't imagine donald trump will tweet his gratitude to president obama for holding the commencement on saturday night. >> accolades was in my head too. he will get a lot of accolades and how is trump going to react to that? it's also pretty telling. obama accepted an invitation. i doubt -- like the sitting president of the united states was not who they wanted to go to. it suggests sort of a dual power obama can have in helping biden exciting democrats and reminding swing voters of what a normal presidency can look like. but also joe biden is the candidate and he is going to find to bring out his own coalition like the obama coalition. i think biden had an interesting

press call today how they are going on the offense with young voters and in offense on georgia and arizona and texas trying to expand the field. you see that coming together for them too. >> such interesting times. we will have to reconvene next week on the other side of this. thank you both so much, my friends. wonderful to see your faces. tune in tomorrow. former president obama delivers the keynote commencement address to the entire american high school class of 2020. a commercial-free event to honor students from coast-to-coast who won't be graduating in any sort of normal way this year. there will be music, special guests. you definitely won't want to miss it. graduate together airs right here on this network and across all of the networks of nbc news at 8:00 p.m. after the break, a married couple so full of love and missionary pilot celebrating three lives well lived. that's next. ves well lived that's next.

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