hello, everybody. it's 4:00 in the east. i'm peter alexander in for nicolle wallace. we are anticipating the first public comments from president trump since the election was called for his opponent joe biden. the first public remarks, in fact, in the eight days since he came out to the white house podium and delivered that string of false claims on voter fraud as the votes were still being counted. we're going to do today what we did then, bring you the president's comments, we will not amplify any misinformation. if the president makes false claims about the election, virus, vaccine or anything else, we're ready to break away from the event and bring you a fact check right here. it's not clear whether or not president trump will take reporters' questions but there are dozens of our nbc news colleagues and others have ready including plainly, do you accept the results of the presidential election? this just hours after nbc news has projected georgia has

flipped for joe biden. arizona also called for biden last night. so joe biden is now projected to win this election with the exact same number of electoral votes that donald trump won in 2016. 306 in all. you might remember kellyanne conway four years ago called a landslide a blowout, she said, historic. no doubt donald trump will also face questions today about why he continues to make claims about widespread voter fraud when his own administration, his own administration, the dhs, department of homeland security, is calling this election the most secure election in american history. why he and his republican allies continue to tout republican victories in the house and senate while claiming presidential votes on the same ballots were somehow fraudulent. not to mention the questions if why he's so adamant about holding on to the presidency the president has not shown much interest in doing the job since the closing of the polls. with the pandemic shattering records across this country

since we last heard president trump speak publicly, almost 950,000 new infections have been reportd. more than 7500 americans in that time have lost their lives due to the virus. donald trump has not acknowledged the severity of the outbreak facing the american people in the last eight days, even on twitter. moments from now he is expected to finally break that silence with an update on the push for a coronavirus vaccine. that's where we begin on this friday. dr. patel is an nbc news and msnbc contributor and former obama white house policy director with us. also with us "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker. nbc news correspondent heidi brez bill la. "washington post" white house reporter ashley. i'm grateful you are with us right now, peter, i like your name, i go to you first. what do we expect to hear from the president today over the course of the last week and a

half since the election night, we've heard the president -- vice president heard him publicly but on twitter, 230 tweets, almost all of them fuming about the election result, spewing conspiracy theories and claims of fraud and blaming fox. what do you think we'll hear from him in the rose garden in the next few minutes? >> on that subject i think you'll hear more of the same. a few minutes ago he tweeted about the voting system in arizona and how that was somehow tilted against him and nevada as well. he's not giving up the ghost on these claims even if he is in private beginning to edges his way closer to the recognition that ultimately it's going to overturn the election. on the virus he wants to take credit for the vaccine which seems to be promising and around the corner here. if there is going to be a widespread distribution of this vaccine it would help to have a president and administration leading the way, obviously, on it, i think as well, he doesn't want to let it go to the biden

administration to take credit for it if it were to be widely available after he leaves office. you know, it's one of the things that's important have a president, this president in particular, endorse this vaccine and have president-elect biden endorse this vaccine, assuming that scientists tell us it's safe, nor to create credibility across the board, so the vaccine doesn't become like the new mask and a partisan issue in which one side or the other doesn't trust it because of who is seen to be politically aligned with it. we'll see what he says about that. >> ashley, to you, this president is remarkable in terms of presidential duties he's performed almost none of them over the course of the last week and a half. we did see him at arlington national cemetery on veterans dayp it seems the president and those around him are concerned about the task of remaining president than they are of being president. >> that's exactly right, and there's a key irony there, not just in the fact of it, but even

from a messaging standpoint. at the very least if you want to argue as he is doing falsely and baselessly that he won the election and he deserves a second term, from, again, pure pr messaging you would want behave as if you are doing the job you would like to hold. what we have seen is a president who you said abdicated his governing responsibilities, not just the day-to-day roles but one specific and devastating, although we are going to see him give an update on project warp speed is that he's not even managing or handling the coronavirus pandemic. and one thing also is right after when pfizer announced they had this vaccine that is 90% effective, this potential vaccine, his aide told him, go out and take a victory lap, no matter what else happens this is a crowning achievement of your presidency. the president was so frustrated he felt the announcement had

come six days after election day, that his own fda and the pharmaceutical giant sat on his data in order to hurt him in the polls. he didn't even want to talk about the vaccine. what we may see is his aides getting through to him saying not only is this good news but important for public health and public health policy and you need to talk about it. again if he does stay on message when he comes out there. >> yeah. so often it's interesting to hear you say that in conversations i've had with some of the president's aides in recent days dating back to last week, what we want him to focus on right now is what he has accomplished and focus on the job and show americans that he keeps being their president. nonetheless he hasn't done that in almost any form until now. we'll see if he can stay within the line of their desires when he walks in the rose garden in the next few minutes. heidi, as it relates to republicans right now, there have been some small cracks in recent days. still a very small number, only about a handful of republicans who have effectively

congratulated the president-elect joe biden on his win, but there are others that are now starting to say hey, you know what, no matter what happens, how this ends up playing out, lindsey graham among them, you need to make sure that joe biden has access to the presidential daily brief so at least he is prepared for the job if he wins, in spite of the fact that we though he already has. >> and that's the problem, peter, is that in these situations, this is the ultimate situation, it is always cracks, it's not a sledgehammer, and the republicans who are not speaking out, who are scared, who are talking to senator chris coons, secretly tell joe biden congratulations but don't want to say it are the problem because donald trump has illustrated that he has no intention of conceding an that day is not going to come. he's got his officials to go along with this mirage including secretary of state mike pompeo, so it really will take the gop leadership, the top brass, and not these cracks.

the question is when is that going to happen, because the president can examine out and talk about the vaccine all he wants today, but the reality is that he's kneecapping that effort by not sharing this information with the incoming biden administration. they are the ones who are going to be distributing this and they are the ones who don't have access to some pretty darn critical information, including what the capability is across states, what the health infrastructure looks like and the supply chain looks like. remember the competitions between states over gowns and masks and all the other items that were lacking in the previous round, that's going to happen again except it's going to be related to this vaccine, peter. it's going to look patchwork unless there is some coordination that takes place pretty soon here. >> so let me put on the screen if i can in advance of hearing from the president, his remarks are to be about operation warp speed and the successes they have achieved and the effort to find a vaccine with the new announcement from pfizer in

repeat days, but it's likely that the president, as evidenced by him calling the washington examiner's reporter yesterday, speaking to geraldo rivera as he noted that the president will talk about these same themes of voter fraud and other topics. here's what you need to know from the department of -- dhs, the cyber security and infrastructure security agency's website. they said the november 3rd election was the most secure in american history. they added, there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised. peter, the president has continued to basically ignore that, mind you, from his own administration, and when he was asked earlier i guess it was yesterday by the washington examiner's report, how long he could see this before things turned around in his favor he said maybe two or three more weeks. is it possible that the

president holds out for two or three more weeks, we're into december before he accepts reality? >> well, the bigger question, how long it is that republicans hold out and the senators and congressmen who have been willing to go along with them, give them some space to come to terms with it so far, be willing to go with them. i think you will start to see within a week the certification of some of these big states that have been at odds. once those votes are certified, the results are certified, you might be able to see the beginning of a larger, you know, movement by republicans to say okay, looks like it's over, there's not much left. the lawsuits the president's team have filed have not been of the sort that would overturn the election anyway and most have been thrown out or disregarded by judges, they have not been, you know, a legal winning streak here and they are allegesing the observers were too far away from the counting tables. that's not something to convince

a judge to say let's throw out a democratic election and make the incumbent. he did tell geraldo he's a realist and wait to see what sert if ications showed and seemed to be opening the door that in a week or so he may take those certifications as a way of saying it's time to move on. he may never concede but time to begin moving to the next phase. >> actually he told geraldo he wanted to do the right thing, so the right things would be sort of allow the american people to move forward with their democracy where the president-elect can prepare for his duties as he's inaugurated a matter of months away, january 20th here. it's a friday and i'm struck by what we've witnessed, you covering this beat like i have, off and on friday you see personnel changes. i keep hearing conversations about the president's consideration of firing the cia director gina has pell or chr

christopher wray he mused about getting rid of in the past. is the possibility of firings something we'll see? >> with this president anything is possible and i, too, have heard those two names in particular. there was a sense when the president fired defense secretary esper that that was sort of the opening salvo in a purge that the president realized that no matter what he says publicly he has just two months in power and this is the time for him if he wants to settle scores and grudges or put in place a team to allow him to take the final dramatic steps he wants to take such as fully drawing down troops in afghanistan. those names were mentioned, but in talking to people generally and this was specifically about the election, but it really applies to everything in this final stretch, it's worth noting i asked someone what's the end game and this person said you're giving up too much credit. so far there is no grand

strategy. there is no master plan. this is not three dimensional chess. this is a president ping-ponging between news cycle and being angry and being accepting and working his way through the stages of grief and so yes, anything could happen, but we just don't know in part because senior people in his administration don't quite know yet. >> dr. patel i want to invite you into this conversation quickly and let folks know the president tweeted he will be holding a press conference 15 minutes from now. on monday he tweeted blaming his fda, the food and drug administration, saying the fda should have announced the pfizer preliminary vaccine earlier not for political purposes he said but for saving lives. for clarity, pfizer said they did it on a scientific timeline not any election oriented timeline, but this vaccine isn't a done deal, right. it's still preliminary and

requires emergency use authorization, does it not? >> that's right, peter. what happened this past week was that an independent data and safety monitoring board did the initial analysis of the pfizer data, of the phase three participants, and because of the results of that data, allowed for the company in their press release to announce the efficacy the 90% you heard about already and so yes, you're absolutely right. the food and drug administration hasn't acted yet. they will receive an application for an emergency use authorization any week now, literally in probably the next week and soon thereafter we expect there will be an authorization which will be limited for probably health care workers and some other priority populations, peter. just to be clear, also something that pfizer did which was interesting is they made it very clear they did not receive research funding from operation warp speed. the federal government did prepurchase vaccines but they were not part of the kind of

operation warp speed research funding which i fully expect the president to take credit for even though technically pfizer did independently. >> yeah. they did the research and development on their own dime. the government will pay them after they deliver 100 million vaccine doses i believe the number is. heidi, last thought before we take a break, i guess my question is, democrats, how concerned are they about this extended timeline that we're witnessing where joe biden isn't getting the access to the documents, the information, the intelligence and the resources that he needs? >> it's more what are they concerned about because there are some areas, some agencies that it's not that big of a deal, this administration, incoming administration, has a lot of officials who have been there before and done that. there are two areas again where there are pretty acute concerns. one is establishing that distribution channel for the vaccines and then the second one is in terms of the classified intelligence briefings that the incoming administration is not

getting. many people have mentioned this before, again, sent september 11th that was cited as being a problem in terms of our preparedness after the 9/11 attacks. that exchange of information just clogged it this time, peter. >> yeah. stay with us quickly. we are within the unofficial trump 15 minute twitter warning he gives us as having worked this beat for a while i can tell you that number often doesn't mean much. we'll take a quick break. everyone is staying here. when we come back we will continue to wait and listen for donald trump's first public remarks since losing the presidential election. "deadline white house" returns right after this. lection. "deadline white house" returns right after this well now there's a solution, with downy defy damage. downy defy damage protects your clothes from the stretching, fading and fuzzing that happens throughout the wash process, all cycle long! simply toss in detergent, add defy beads, then toss in your clothes. and downy defy's unique formula conditions and protects fibers,

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we are moments away from hearing from president trump for an update on the white house coronavirus task force, first public acknowledgement of the virus in some time. this from president-elect joe biden. today i renew my call for every american regardless of where they live or voted for to step up and do their part on social distancing, hand washing and mask wearing to protect themselves and protect others. he writes, i understand it's not easy. i know people are tired, but this will not go on forever. we are moving toward a vaccine, we're improving our ability to test, we are developing better treatments and we can get through this and come out on the other side stronger. right now is a moment for shared responsibility and shared action, he says. together we have the power to rein in this virus and i promise you, from the moment i am sworn in on january 20th i will do

everything in my power to lead this unified national effort. nbc news has learned that a team of doctors close to biden's transition team are working to develop their own vaccine distribution strategy, an effort to avoid any underpreparedness or gap created by the trump administration's lack of cooperation. meanwhile, the u.s. saw another all-time high yesterday. more than 157,000 new cases of the coronavirus. look at that graphic there. remember how it felt in april and again in the summer. look at how high those numbers have gotten to. so far more than 10.7 million americans have been sickened with the virus and more than 244,000 have died, more than 1,000 of them just yesterday. we're back with our panel right now, dr. patel, peter baker, heidi and ashley parker. dr. patel it's striking to hear from joe biden as we prepare to hear from donald trump but the contrasts and the way they communicate about this virus are

so clear and so notable, as much as anything with joe biden it seems is trying to accomplish is the better sense of public aware thz and cooperation so we're in it together even if he doesn't have the levers of power to do much more than that. >> yeah. peter, i think the clear messaging is what we've wanted all along. what we're hearing out of the president-elect is candidly what we should have been hearing for months, it's hard, number two help is on the way in the form of masks and in the form of ppe as we've still been hearing about shortages and then i'll just highlight the other piece that president-elect biden has brought is actually assembling his task force and having, you know, those zoom displays with public health officials who are also speaking to the media, but have again the same consistent message, unlike the white house coronavirus task force where you have the president undercutting his own scientific advisors as they're trying to talk to the american public. so it couldn't be more

different. unfortunately, this is a speeding bullet train and we have to have actions today, so it will be interesting to hear what the president states. >> then again as you look on your screen you're looking at the rose garden here where we anticipate the president's arrival moments ago. recognize dr. deborah brix, the coordinator, her colorful skafr always an indicator from behind who you're looking at there. admiral girard who has been involved heavily with the testing strategies. dr. alex azar arriving with hhs, the vice president as well. i'm struck as you look at the picture at the fact that they are socially distanced in the rose garden, contrast that with the image a matter of weeks ago in late september for amy coney barrett where everybody was packed together there as they celebrated her nomination and then i'm reminded of the picture we saw about a week and a half ago in the east room where the

president was packed together, ashley, with so many aides and allies an friends on election night and both of them seems to be super spreaders. six people at the east room event testing positive. >> yeah. that's exactly right. eight members of the rnc including the chief of staff have tested positive. the a way sort of the closest the president has come to grappling with the coronavirus recently is just the people in his orbit who are getting sick. so again, you never want to host a super spreading event for obvious reasons, but then you take a president who is politically most vulnerable and his chief of staff mark meadows has coronavirus, the rnc is largely down, david bossy, supposed to be leading his legal strategy to fight this is sickened with coronavirus. corey lewandowski, another adviser, as we reported in "the washington post" 130 secret service members who are sickened or being told to quarantine

because they have been exposed to someone. this is not the world you want in any circumstances, but certainly not around the president of the united states and certainly not in such a sort of perilous time for our nation. >> i'll tell you as i was at the white house today went into the west wing in an effort to speak to aides there, in many ways it's deserted, so many working from home because they were in close contact with someone who tested positive, others having tested positive themselves, simply are not there right now. peter, in these waning days as we wait to see the president, the camera panning over, there he is the president of the united states arriving out here in advance of his first public comments since it was projected he had lost the presidency the first to lose after one term since george h.w. bush. the president of the united states. >> thank you. >> beautiful out here this time of year. the past fine months my administration has initiated the

single greatest mobilization in u.s. history pioneering developing and manufacturing therapies and vaccines in record time. numbers like nobody has seen before. no medical breakthrough of this scope and magnitude has ever been achieved this rapidly this quickly and we're very proud of it and i had tremendous help from the military, generals, admirals and many of the great people at the white house. operation warp speed is unequalled and unrivalled anywhere in the world. the leaders of other countries have called me to congratulate us on what we've been able to do and we've helped many countries with their ventilators and all of the problems they were having. i would like to congratulate everyone involved in this effort. it's been an incredible effort. as a result of operation warp speed, pfizer announced on monday that its china virus vaccine is more than 90%

effective. this far exceeds any and all expectations. nobody thought they would get to that level. we have others coming which we think will be at equal level, maybe more if that's possible. in july my administration reached an agreement with pfizer to provide $1.95 billion to support the mask manufacturing and distribution of 100 million doses with the option to purchase a total of 600 million doses shortly thereafter. our investment will make it possible for the vaccine to be provided by pfizer free of charge. pfizer said it wasn't part of warped speed but that turned out to be an unfortunate misreputation. they are part. that's why we gave them the $1.95 billion and it was an unfortunate mistake they made when they said that. we will work to secure an emergency use authorization which should be coming down

extremely soon and my administration will then coordinate the distribution of the vaccine and it will be approved i think again it will be approved very, very quickly. we hope. average development timeline for the vaccine including clinical tests and manufacturing can take 8 to 12 years. through operation warp speed we're doing it in less than one year. if you had a different administration with different people, what we've done would have taken in my opinion three to four or five years and it would have been in the fda for ever. this is five times faster than the fastest prior vaccine development in history, five times faster. say it again. nobody can believe it, actually. three other vaccines are in the final stages of trial. they'll arrive within a few weeks. and they will also be mass produced and the delivery will be very rapid. we're ready to go. the vaccine will be distributed

to frontline workers, the elderly and high risk americans immediately. it will be very matter of weeks, get out very, very much ahead of schedule. any schedule that i said we're going to be far ahead of that. we know that this virus primarily targets older populations and those with underlying health conditions while over 99.98% of those under the age of 50 make a full and quick recovery. by giving the vaccine to high risk individuals right away we will dramatically reduce hospitalizations and deaths. case levels are high, but a lot of the case levels are high because of the fact that we have the best testing program anywhere in the world. we'll developeds the most an best tests and we test far more than any other country so it shows obviously more cases. by vaccinating the elderly and high risk we will effectively end this phase of the pandemic

and allow seniors to reclaim their golden years, the golden years of their lives which is so incredible. it's about time that they can have those golden years. again, this process is starting right away, millions of doses will soon be going out the door. they're all ready waiting for that final approval. as soon as april the vaccine will be available to the entire general population with the exception of places like new york state where for political reasons the governor decided to say -- i don't think it's good politically, i think it's bad from a health standpoint, but he wants to take this time on the vaccine and he doesn't trust where the vaccine is coming from. these are coming from the greatest companies anywhere in the world, greatest labs in the world, but he doesn't trust the fact that it's this white house, this administration, so we won't be delivering it to new york until we have authorization to do so and that pains me to say

that. this is a very successful, amazing vaccine at 90% and more but -- so the governor cuomo will have to let us know when he's ready for it. we can't be delivering it to a the state that won't be giving it to its people immediately. i know the people of new york very well. i know they want it. the governor will let us know when he's ready. he's had some very bad editorials recently about this, this statement and what's happened with respect to nursing homes and his handling of nursing homes and i hope he doesn't handle this as badly as the nursing homes. we're ready to provide it as soon as they let us know that they'll actually use it. and again, it's a very safe and a great vaccine. already we have among the lowest case fatality rates in our country anywhere in the world, the entire world, and we performed significantly better than our peer countries.

as far as therapeutics are concerned, my administration has made critical investments in therapies that helped reduce the mortality rate by 85%. that's to me one of the most exciting things. it's incredible some of the antibody vaccines and others that have come out and really helped people. 85%. last month the fda approved remdesivir and we've secured enough remdesivir to treat 850,000 patients. my administration finalized an agreement with eli lilly to purchase the first doses of their antibody therapy which shows amazing results. this treatment will be available completely free of cost to patients. 5,000 units have been shipped and many more are going out the door as we speak. we reached an agreement with astrazeneca for the large-scale manufacturing of their antibody treatment which is excellent. we expect to issue emergency use

authorizations for a number of additional treatments in the near future. tremendous promise, but remember the 85% number. that's an incredible number. but we have some tremendously promising drugs online and ready to come out. we have ensured that our frontline workers have all the tools they need. my administration's invoked the defense production act and related authorities over 100 times and have made a historic investment into our industrial base. all states that requested ppe from the federal government have received the ppe almost immediately upon request. every american who needed a ventilator had access to a ventilator. think of that, very complicated piece of equipment and expensive and we haven't had one person in this whole country that has requested or needed a ventilator that hasn't had it. every single request has been immediately filled. so that was something. that was a great job.

we're helping the rest of the world with ventilators. we're producing them thousands of ventilators a month. the federal government is 22,000 beds immediately available for states and jurisdictions that need additional capacity, but we think that it's going to start going down possibly very quickly. we'll see what happens, but with the vaccine it will -- you'll see numbers going down within a matter of months and it will go down very rapidly. as we continue to combat the virus our economy is rebounding far beyond any expectations. i see the stock market is up almost 400 points today and it's ready to break the all-time record. our jobs records are incredible. the job numbers are incredible. in the last six months we've created over 13 million jobs and slashed the unemployment rate by more than half. last quarter we witnessed the fastest economic growth ever recorded in the history of our country. 33.1%. it's a number that is more than double our highest that was in

1952 and we've more than doubled it. the united states experienced the smallest economic contraction and the most rapid economic recovery of any major western nation. we went down less and we went up more. which is quite a combination of facts. while healthy americans have gone back to work and school we continue to spare no expense to protect the elderly and the vulnerable. according to some estimates, a national lockdown cost $50 billion a day and hundreds of thousands of jobs every single day. ideally we won't go to a lockdown, i will not go -- this administration will not be going to a lockdown. hopefully the -- whatever happens in the future, who knows, which administration it will be, i guess time will tell, but i can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown. there won't be necessity. lockdowns cost lives and they cost a lot of problems.

the cure cannot be -- you dgot o remember cannot be worse than the problem itself. when you look at what happens during a lockdown, i just say it very loudly, it's horrible what happens with drugs, alcohol, depression, loss of jobs, business closures. it's a terrible thing. so this administration will not go under any circumstances will not go to a lockdown but we'll be vigilant and careful. we understand the disease. it's a complicated disease, but we understand it very well. we ask all americans to remain vigilant, especially as the weather gets colder and it becomes more difficult to go outside and have outside gatherings. with that i just want to ask some very talented people to say a few words. general perna and dr. slowe have been incredible.

the general is getting started right now but what we don't know and people don't know, he started putting this all together six months ago and you're going to see real action. general maybe you'll start it off and then doctor right after that. thank you very much. then we're going to finish it off with mike pence. thank you. please. >> thank you. sure. >> thank you, mr. president. hi, everybody. so operation warp speed's mission is to enable and accelerate the development of vaccines and therapeutics to help control the covid-19 pandemic and save lives. on may 15th, almost six months ago to the day, we stated the goal of the operation which was to have vaccines and therapeutics available and approve for use in the u.s. population by the end of the year 2020. we said then that while very challenging, the goal was credible and therefore was

worth -- >> we've been listening to the president of the united states moments ago in what was not a concession speech, not that it was anticipated. there did appear to be a moment where he almost acknowledged the likelihood of a new administration and time will tell. the president among other things again repeatedly referring to the coronavirus as the china virus, criticizing pfizer for some of its public comments even as they announced they now have a vaccine that has 90% effectiveness at this point and denouncing new york state's governor. but it is a moment of pride in some ways the successes of getting to where a vaccine may be on the horizon. the president did acknowledge that every or regular americans, i guess you could say, wouldn't be receiving the vaccine if it is to be approved in the weeks ahead until the spring of next year april. peter baker, heidi, dr. patel with us. peter, your reactions to the president, as striking as

anything seeing the president before us for the first time in eight days delivering remarks. you can just almost see how this time has aged him. >> yeah. he seemed somewhat subdued as you can imagine. he was trying to be in his own way presidential talking about an important topic like the coronavirus rather than his own grievances against the voting machines and the electoral counts and all that kind of stuff and he was trying to take credit for the vaccine and he made a point of jabbing at pfizer as you pointed out. pfizer, let's just to clarify for viewers, pfizer developed this vaccine without federal money but did a $2 billion promise of federal money to distribute i on the back end. that was an incentive to continue developing a vaccine they were developing on the own. that's slicing the onion there. i was struck, too, peter, as you said about the way he almost seemed to reference the next administration, right. he says this administration, you know, won't be doing any

lockdowns. we'll see what -- he almost seemed to say what the next administration will do and stopped himself. i think he's signalling in his own way of course that he's gradually coming to the idea that, of course, that he will not be there on january 20th at 12:01 p.m. and make clear to the public before he leaves first of all that he will take -- consider this vaccine development to be part of his legacy rather than letting joe biden come along afterwards and claim the credit. as we talked before he got on, i do think it's important that with both these president, the outcoming and incoming president endorsing this vaccine will have enormous effect on public faith in it. people see so much of this through a partisan lens. >> dr. fauci, among those, i didn't see in the rose garden. our notes don't indicate that our teams that are there see him right now. he said if the science proves this is effective and safe he, too, will take it and that is

going to be a challenge for so many americans who heard misinformation about the way this vaccine process works, whether they feel comfortable with it. ultimately it will be the doctors and scientists who should make all americans feel comfortable with it. dr. patel to you right now, we heard the president's criticisms of pfizer. he said they've already got the money for the doses they would be producing. when they do produce the doses they'll receive the $2 billion. what struck you as you heard the president's comments about the state of where we are with the vaccine and regular americans, not your frontline workers and other vulnerable americans, will likely see it beginning in april? >> couple things. number one, he did make some comment that made it sound as the vaccine is available we'll start to see this just kind of slowly go away, just a fact that this is at least a two dose vaccine separated by three weeks, and it does take weeks to develop immunity. so it's even the health care workers like myself that might get it first, it's not going to be something where all of a

sudden the just kind of goes away or i don't have to worry about masks. this is a complex supply chain distribution issue. pfizer is preparing kits with dry ice because it requires 70 degrees below zero celsius for storage and only lasts about an hour outside of those conditions. so this is not something, peter, you and i can walk into a regular pharmacy unless it's already outfitted with that type of storage requirement. we get back to that important comment about transitions and supply chain issues and i'm just putting a more conservative estimate more americans will receive this likely in the summer possibly later to be a bit more realistic. >> and heidi, to bring you in on this conversation, the president likes to cast everything with the best spin, the most optimistic view through his lens on these things, but notable he isn't really even acknowledge that numbers have soared. i mean 150,000 americans

yesterday alone testing positive. hospitalizations have risen. these are not just red states or blue states, they're almost all states right now where the numbers are going up, the president, there really wasn't that moment of empathy of americans to say i get this, i've got your back and we're working on it. that's the kind of language a lot of those around him wished the president would use but just isn't really true to form for him. it's not the way he speaks with empathy and compassion. >> the most important thing that any president could be doing right now, peter, as we stare down this potentially disastrous phase of the pandemic is messaging. it's messaging specifically about what public health safety precautions we can take in terms of everyone wearing masks, social distancing, maybe making the tough decisions about not seeing your grandmother or your extended family over the holidays and those are specifically the things that he's not doing.

it's important, of course, to build public confidence around a vaccine, but that is far off in the future and we're talking about months here where we could see pretty serious damage sustained by the broader population given that yes, we've made advances in how we treat this, we know more about it, but we don't have a cure, we don't have a vaccine, and 1% death rate is still terrifying and we're going into the head of -- the headwinds of this, the next few weeks. if you look just over the past two weeks, the positivity rate and the numbers, the diagnosis of coronavirus nationwide has doubled. just put your math hat on for a moment and think about what that factor, what that multiple looks like two weeks from now. four weeks from now. we're not going to have anything more then than what we have right now to treat these individuals and our hospital systems are already sending out

s.o.s. signals in major areas throughout the midwest and, you know, we're -- we have every reason to believe that will also arrive here on the east coast. >> and as we can show you again a live picture from in the rose gua garden where some have been delivering comments. to his remarks he said there will be enough vaccine to immunize 20 million americans in december. unclear if that means they get both doses in december or the first of the two, dr.pa tell. peter, you noted it, i noted it, there is this reckoning with reality you heard from the president aside from the vaccine but about the presidential election, the transition of power, the inauguration to take place january 20th when he did refer to this administration versus the next administration, it does really sort of underscore what i hear as i speak to aids about how the

president ricochets around the room with his thinking and for one moment sort of acknowledging i'm not going to come back, the next moment, is there any way we can flip lectors, republicans in pennsylvania, to help the slate of the electoral college vote for me. he is all over the map on this and yet to recognizes the situation that's presented itself to him which is defeat. >> yeah. you're right. he's spitballing recently as wednesday, according to my colleague maggie haberman, what you were talking about, to aides, what about the republican state legislatures appointing lectors even if the will of the voter was opposite. pennsylvania, georgia, arizona, places like that, and remember, pennsylvania state law doesn't allow it. the legislature has said in those republican -- before the election they were not going to substitute their judgment for that of the voters. he's anxious and desperate for any lifeline that would let him holden to power even as i think he's coming to the realization that's not going to happen.

you know, certainly the tone you heard today from him just now is one of a president who seemed to be coming to that realization. as we talked about earlier in the previous segment, realizing is one thing. beginning to act on it is another. allowing the transition to begin, allowing the new team to be brought up to speed on this vaccine that we're talking about because it's going to be up to them to distribute to the vast majority of americans, bringing the new president up to speed on national security threats an intelligence, all that matters. so while we're waiting for the president to come to grips with what everybody seems to think is reality, you know, there are still some real consequences to be paid. >> heidi, to you. the president also there coming in to this white house saying he appears to be going out with animosity toward some of this critics but notably toward democrats, denouncing andrew cuomo, the democratic governor of the state of new york there, basically saying that he's going to hold off providing them the vaccine because he doesn't trust that andrew cuomo will

distribute it as required there. again, none of this is supposed to be about reds and blues. it's supposed to be about americans including new yorkers who saw the brunt of this in the initial months of this. new yorkers, new jerseyans, those in connecticut as well. it was kind of remarkable to hear the president even in this moment he could be touting success success is attacking some of his critics. >> peter, i think the reality here is that the damage has been done regardless of when president trump in his own way acknowledges defeat. it's very much expected that he will never say that he actually lost the votes. he's going to use this myth that will live on through his supporters and really kind of corrode the principles of our democracy given that the most important thing in transitions of power is faith in the system and faith that we can hold free and fair elections. i think we're going to be

autopsying this situation for quite some time. i saw a tweet from one of -- "the washington post" colleagues and he said that he was watching fox news prime time all this week and really they're still living in this alternate universe that reaching millions and millions of americans where donald trump didn't actually lose the election. we're probably not going to get that concession speech from him, maybe we will, but odds are that we are not, and that the effects of that are we're going to have millions of people in this country who don't trust the system, who believe that donald trump actually won and are angry about it. we'll have a rally tomorrow. hopefully it will be peaceful. a lot of individuals showing up at the polls and protesting prior to this in michigan, for instance, about the lockdown orders they're still out there, they're still angry, and the fact that the president won't

come to terls with this and that so many around him are not coming to terms with it has long-lasting implications for our democracy and our system. >> dr. patel, as we wait, americans in some ways are on their own right now in spite of the lack of leadership by example, a lack of mask wearing, we saw the way the rallies were if just the last several weeks. the best advice you have to americans right now to help beat this thing, even if it is not the president that is communicating is what. >> the best thing we could do is reconsider any plans if do you have them to travel and invite other news your household. and if gouriing to move forward outside or raising the windows and opening a door, putting on your mask, asking people to serve themselves and doing your best to keep everybody safe is going to be critical. we have hot spots everywhere in the country.

so stay safe by not just taking care of yourself but take care of others. a% mortality rate of an average. that number could increase ten fold so this is incredibly real. so police tlease try to get thre light at the end of the tunnel but we have to get through it. >> in the back drop of thanksgiving. thanks to all of you. when we come back, we're keeping an eye on the president. will he take questions from reporters on the issue of the election? we'll watch. plus new comments from the former chief of staff john kelly, those just in and it is all next. is all next number's veterans day

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hans nicolles and the reverend al sharpton. rev, first to you, your reaction to john kelly's comments joining a chorus of others that the president could dispute the election results but least he could do is give joe biden the access to the classified intelligence. >> john kelly is absolutely correct. when you contrast the fact that the president has now finally come and said something since the election and tried to say it in a way that he was acting presidential. and the fact is that his actions are the exact opposite because he's acing irresponsible. how are you informing the public about where we are in terms of fighting the pandemic but you refuse to have your experts and

your administration sit down and begin the phase of passing over the information, the confidential briefings in the area of coronavirus and others to the incoming administration. even if you believe by some miracle this election is going to be undone, why, if you're really concerned about the health and welfare of the people, that now we're seeing these numbers increase, why would you behave in this manner. it is definitely john kelly is correct on this. >> no doubt. and a big thank you to the car interior lights for keeping you lit. hans, your thought, he's been seeking to democrats and those close to joe biden. what are they saying about the concern about the delay in terms of the aability to accomplish the agenda from day one. >> well right now they realize that the clock is ticking and that time is going to compress. you could lose a couple of days in the beginning of this process, but matter but not that

much. what really matters is the closer to inauguration day. so this affects a variety of conversations and the classified intelligence briefing they could work around that. the main thing is getting under the hood, looking at the books and being inside of the agencies to understand how to implement the agenda, how to tackle coronavirus and how to start the biden administration. and every day you lose, the next day is more crucial than the previous one. and that is what they're trying to figure out inside of the biden transition. what can you do without the offici official gsa. >> thank you. that will do it for me. nicolle wallace will be back in the chair on monday. not to worry. the next hour of "deadline: white house" with katy tur starts right after this quick break. andr andrew cuomo reacts to the

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hi everyone, it is 5:00 in the new york. i'm katy tur in for nicolle wallace for the second hour of "deadline: white house." the president has made the first remarks since losing the presidential election. the event was billed as an update on operation warp speed and in it donald trump promised his administration would not be locking down the country again in the face of the skyrocketing number of coronavirus cases. but he did make reference to the election. and this on incoming administration. >> i will not go. this administration will not go be going to a lockdown. hopefully what happens in the future, who knows which administration will be, i guess time will tell. >> trump also promised delivery of a vaccine but not to new york making this attack a against the state's governor andrew cuomo. >> as soon as april the vaccine will be available to the entire general population with the exception of places like new

york state where for political reasons the governor decided to say, you know, i don't think it is good politically, i think it is bad from a health standpoint, but he wants to take his time on the vaccine. >> governor andrew cuomo of new york will be joining us in just a moment. but first, let us get to our panel. white house reporter and msnbc political analyst jonathan lemire is here. also with us amy stoddard, columnist from real clear politics. jason johnson, politics and professor at morgan state university and dr. libby roy and internal medicine physician. john, i want to start with you and the president's oblique reference to this administration. he doesn't know what will happen in the future. this is kind of the first signal we've seen from the president acknowledging in some way that

he's probably flnot going to be sworn in on january 20th. >> that is the closest he's come to acknowledge that he may not be president all that much longer. now he caught himself. and hearing in that clip and certainly got nowhere near a concession. he is yet to do that. he has yet to suggest that he lost to joe biden. and it doesn't seem like he's willing to abandon at least publicly his efforts to change the result. even though his advisers by the day acknowledge there is path forward, that he has indeed lost. but it is a slightly different tone than we heard from others in his administration. his press secretary was asked today if whether joe biden is being sworn in and her answer was, well, yes, he'll still be

president. i'm paraphrasing but that is what she said which does not square at all with reality. but the president today, it was certainly more score settling with the governor of new york. we'll hear from him in a moment. certainly touting the vaccine progress, misrepresenting the relationship with pfizer. he's not there even though there was a glimmer of a possibility that his time in office may be coming to an end. >> and we were waiting to see in he was going to take questions. he did not take questions. john, you just mentioned that interview. let's play it. >> are you prepared to say that the president will -- president trump will definitely attend the inauguration? >> again, that is many -- that is many steps away here. we're talking january and president trump believes he will be president trump have a sec

term and litigation is the first step, many steps away from that. >> it would look pretty bad if he did not attend inauguration. it would look like sour grapes, wouldn't it. >> i think the president will attend his own inauguration. he would have to be there, in fact. >> he will attend his own inauguration. what in the world does that mean? >> well, this is part of the demands on the people around president trump, is that he, we know he consumes television and the same question comes up, why aren't there more people out there defending me on television so he wans to hear people validating the narrative that he -- that the election was stolen from him by the democrats through wide scale conspiracy fraud. and that he remains president. so that is why his trade adviser and i should put that in quotes,

peter navarro was also on tv today saying that he doesn't imagine that president biden will be the president in january. so it is a moot point to even talk about any of this speculation about losing the election or transitioning to a new administration. so they're doing what they can to make the boss happy. and go on with the fantasy. i think that the president today was not trying to signal a hint, i think it was a slip of the tongue and that he recovered quickly because he wants to keep up the ruse that this has been stolen. he's raising money from his supporters, he's lying to for his next career chapter. and i think he's going to keep it going far longer than people are hoping the pressure is building on him to do. >> you know, and he's talking about potentially announcing a second run for the white house in 2024 and rs talk about media empire that he would try to

build. in the washington examiner today there was an interview with the president where he laid out what he said were his paths to victory, talking about recounts and how they're going to find donald trump ballots there and these states are going to get over turned but nbc news called arizona for joe biden last night and today on my air during my hour we called georgia for joe biden as the apparent winner. obviously there is a hand recount in georgia. but he's leading by many thousands of votes. if this holds, this map holds, it will be 306 that joe biden was able to get. the same electoral margin that donald trump had in 2016 that his team said was a landslide. >> right. well here is the thing. at some point some newspaper, some outlets will eventually wean themselves off of the

donald trump cavalcade drug of asking him questions that we shouldn't be asking him any more. it doesn't really matter what he thinks about what won because it is obvious he lost. it doesn't matter if he wants to scream and yell about lawsuits that are swatted down by flies and by judges appointing by democratic and republican presidents. i think that what has happened in many respects is some outlets and again washington examiner tends to lean slightly right, some are giving him this mourning period whether it is not necessary. and i'll tell you this, because i don't think the speculation, is he going to start a media empire or run for president. have we seen any indicator that donald trump has the kind of discipline that he could put together an entire presidential campaign again in four years given his inability to stay focused on anything. he pretty much won his campaign

in 2016 because he had outside assistance and running against somebody unpopular. i don't think he has any future other than fighting off lawsuits because he no longer has income. anything else is wishful speculation. >> i might push on that. he grew his vote total and more donald trump supporters to the mix in 2020. he has a hold on the republican party. it would depend on how that hold sticks and whether he maintains it a year, four years down the line and whether he was visible in conservative republican media circles and how much influence he still has over that. the party would likely rally behind their most popular player. i think that is still up in the air. but jason, beyond that, why does he want the job. it seems like he doesn't want to do it right now. this is the first time we've seen him in a week. he came out to tout operation warp speed but he hasn't been

addressing the crisis that is only escalated in the few weeks, more and more americans contracting covid-19, more and more dying. it is out of control across the entire country. >> donald trump just wanted to stick it to hillary clinton and stick it to barack obama. and here is the thing. without an entire media eco-system forced to pay attention, fox news is one thing, but with the rest of the news outlets are no longer paying atense to him as much, he won't be able to galvanize crowds and since he lacked any real interest in doing the job. if you look at what happened when mitt romney didn't get the nomination in 2008 and he ran around the country and put together some speeches and most who have a desire to run again because they didn't win the party nomination because not

they were repudiated. so between not wanting the job and not having the discipline, i think this is an extended mourning process. there is nothing i've seen in donald trump that makes me believe that he could actually mount a serious challenge based on policy, based on ideology that he could do something in four years which is a lifetime in politics. >> john, you want to weigh in on this? >> i think, yes, i do. i think both points are valley. katie, you're right, the president is a political phenomenon. he did grow his vote total and he has the republican party bent to his will and whim but 4 years is a long time and the advisers around him in recent days that right now he's mulling his next options. we've seen the cavalcade of

tweet going offer fox news suggesting there is some sort of media entity in future but that is a huge undertaking or joining on with oan or news max or another alternative to fox after his anger at the murdock owned property. he's going to need to make some money. he's in debt. his businesses have suffered while he was in office and going to be a real focus. he is probably going to face litigation and probably investigations. from new york state and other places once he leaves office. so i think that there is a sense of people closest to him who say the president has not made up his mind but is going to toy with the idea of 2024. maybe he'll say i'm running for president again. to maintain his relevance and with that extra attention that is a good way to monetize the

experience. >> and how he could keep himself relevant and that is a big question. four years is a very long time. doctor, let's talk about the coronavirus. because something struck me about what the president said about the vaccine. he said once it does become online, once it is online, that almost immediately, within weeks all front line workers, all elderly people, all of the high risk categories for this virus will be vaccinated. you could give me a reality check on that. >> um, good to be with you, katie. by all measures, all experts are saying that distribution of the covid-19 vaccine will be the most complex and challenging vaccine campaign in human history. it is two different doses. again it depends on which vaccine from which company but the pfizer is the leading candidate. two different doses, 28 days apart and has to be stored and shipped at minus 70 degrees

celsius and needs to -- we have to triage who will get it. health care workers, telderly ad communities of color. this is really complicated. that is not going to happen, forget overnight let alone self weeks or months. it is going to take a long time to carefully and thoughtfully plan this out. but if i may also just try to answer that same question that you asked jason and jonathan from a medical and psychiatric perspective as to why the president wants to stay, people with narcissistic personality and delusional disorder seek and crave attention. they also lack the ability to express empathy. in other words their apathetic. so he doesn't compress guilt to what is happening to millions of americans and craves attention. so the medical perspective to that. >> dr. lipi roy, thank you.

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president trump's first remarks since losing the election were largely on the subject of the coronavirus vaccine. but the event included this attack on new york governor andrew cuomo. >> as soon as april the vaccine will be available to the entire general population with the exception of places like new

york state where for political reasons the governor decided to say and i don't think it is good politically, i think it is bad from a health stand point, but he wants to take his time on the vaccine. >> joining us now is new york governor andrew cuomo. governor, thanks for joining us. what is your response to the president? >> yeah, katie, it is not of what he said is true. surprise, surprise. we're all excited about the possibilities about a vaccine. it is not that people don't trust the vaccine companies, the pharmaceutical companies. pfizer is a great new york and regeneron is a great company but americans are worried about political interference in the vaccine process and the approval process by the president. the american people trust the drug company more than they trust the president. kaiser polls said 60% of

americans are worried that the approval was political, pew polls said about 50% of americans are worried that it is political. so a number of states, new york includes, to try to build credibility so the people will accept the vaccine, put together their own scientific review panels, ours is headed by a nobel prize laureate who will review the fda process so we could say to people it is safe, you should take the vaccine. >> are you going to be doing that concurrently? will there be delay between the distribution process and the vaccine. >> no, it is concurrent. it is a way to build confidence in people. and it is not just a new york issue. seven states have independent panels to review it because the majority of americans say they

think it was a politicized approval process because the president has been so overtly political in manipulating health officials. so, yes, we're excited about a vaccine. now you have to get people to take it. over half of the country is saying they're worried about the approval. the question becomes how do you shore up confidence. and a number of states said we'll set up our own scientific panel and they'll review the information, i then get to go to the people of new york state and say, i know you're worried, don't be worried, this is safe. and then we could actually administer and distribute the vaccine quickly. that is what it is about. the president likes to point out new york because it is been a ongoing issue. the president lost new york state in the election by a huge margin. you have new york prosecutors who are investigating the

president for tax fraud. so he has issued with new york and he likes to point to new york. but this is his issue. it is his credibility issue. it is the fear that he politicized the health process of this nation. which is a well founded fear. >> is it an issue with new york stitt and a number of other states have set up advisory panels or is it an issue with you directly? >> oh, i think it is both. you know, i have been an outspoken opponent to many of president trump's policies over the past four years. i opposed what he did on the border. i opposed his putting children in cages. i opposed his separating children from their families. we've had litigation over it. the president has retaliated. he raised our taxes in new york. he's refused to fund any

infrastructure projects in new york. but that is been his m.o., katie. everything is personal with this president. there can't be a disagreement on principle and he retaliate and using the government as a retaliatory tool. that is what he does. he's also a bully. >> well hold on. let's put the president aside. he's only in office for a critical couple of months but joe biden is going to be the president on january 20th and the president-elect right now. i foe heknow he's trying to sets administration for day one an try to figure out what exactlyer that going to do about the coronavirus and be ready to go. he's having a hard time doing that because he hasn't been given full access to transition resources. specifically on the subject of coronavirus. have anyone been in touch with joe biden's team about what new york needs when he come news

office? >> oh, yes we have. on an ongoing basis. that is another point of difference i had with the president. i think it is shameful what he's doing. you're in the middle of a national pandemic, you're ego is going to get in the way of a formal normal transition of power. you're not going to inform the incoming administration of the day-to-day need to make a decision. meanwhile you have americans dying and the covid pandemic raging. i mean, he should be ashamed of himself. but we have been working with the biden team. this is a very difficult period. the numbers are going to go up. they're going to continue to go up through the winter. it is not as simple as saying well we'll get to the vaccine and the vaccine will solve it. the time between today and the administration of the vaccine is a very long period of time, katy, and the administration of

the vaccine is also something trump administration has no idea to handle just like this entire covid situation. it is like testing, we'll just do it and in it never happened. how do you administer a vaccine to 330 million people. >> let's talk about logistics because the vaccine needs extremely cold storage and distributed, what is going to happen in new york, where does it go first? do we have the resources in place in the state to facilitate that sort of cold storage and then how do you as the governor go through and figure out who exactly is going to get this vaccine first. you have everybody on a list somewhere and are you going to go down and working with drrz offices, how exactly does that work? >> yeah, well that is my point. you know, the federal government on covid has been very short on details and has frankly been incompetence in the administration. in new york we have many

questions, first off all, how many doses do we get and how quickly do we get them. they talk about a private health institution distribution mechanism. they'll give it to hospitals, they'll give it to drug store clains, et cetera. that is fine for a segment of the population but that doesn't get to the poor communities and the black and the brown communities that actually have the highest covid mortality rate and infection rate. and they won't provide the sufficient resources so a state could put together that apparatus to get into those black and brown communities. the priority, it will be somewhere between the forward government and the states. i think the biden administration will have do set a priority list. but it is health care workers, it is nursing homes, it is senior citizens, it is essential workers. so there is some agreement on

the prioritization, but there is still a lot of details that have to be worked out. and the federal government's position like on testing, like on ppe, like on masks, they point to the states. and while it is up to the states, it is up to the states but then they don't provide the resources for the states to do what they need to do. >> so on january 20th, joe biden will be president. but if this vaccine gets fda approval before then an starts getting rolled out, are you saying that we need to wait until january 20th for everyone to get vaccinated or do you believe there is a way to work with this administration to start the process if it comes in mid-december or early january? >> the day they -- they distribute the vaccine, we will be ready to start the distribution. our review of the fda protocol

will be simultaneous concurrent with their delivery. we're not going to have any lag in time. but i do want to say to the people of this state, trust the vaccine. i do want to be able to say, i know you have doubts about trump and about trump's politicalization of the health process but we have a separate panel headed by a nobel prize laureate and it is -- >> i understand that and i'm not arguing with that point. i'm sorry. don't mean to interrupt. but the logistics of working with the trump administration, are they going to be able to get you, are you confident they'll be able to get you the doses you need. take the politics aside, could you start the distribution fast enough with this administration? >> i can -- i can do whatever -- i can do whatever i need to do in the state.

we brought this state from the highest infection rate in the nation to one of the lowest. i am not confident in the competence of this federal administration and that is the ongoing story. you name one thing that they did where they were competent. they were late in diagnosing when the virus came. they didn't know how to do covid tests. they couldn't even produce nasal swabs. so now when they say well we're going to distribute hundreds of millions of vaccines, and cold storage, am i confident of their ability, no. but i also think it is irrelevant because tlas going to fall to the joe biden administration and i am confident in joe biden's capacity. >> so it sounds like january 20th might be the earliest that we start this just because of logistics and your confidence

with the current administration. i have one more question for you. new york positivity rate is rising and there is some concerns. go ahead. >> yeah. excuse me one second. as soon as trump delivers me a dose, i will be ready to administer it. period. as soon as it's available to new york, i'll administer it. you ask me am i confident in the ability to administer and the answer is no. >> i don't think we're talking past each other on that. i think think point was you're saying the confidence level is not so high right now so the confidence level will be restored on january 20th. but beyond that. >> right. >> the positivity rate in new york is going up and bill de blasio was talking about potentially closing schools if we rise above 3%. you could say to the population

of new york and the surrounding ri areas there is a way to continue life and continue trying to keep this economy alive while also combatting the virus. is there something that we could do right now so we avoid another shutdown? >> yeah, katy, we can and we know that because we have, right. new york was ambushed by covid so we had the highest infection rate and we got it under control. but you have to do what you have to do. you have to wear a mask and you have to do the social distancing and be prudent. we still have one of the lowest infection rates in the united states. now you have it going up nationwide. you have it going up in internationally. people are flying into new york. the surrounding states around new york have a higher infection rate and we have the winter and we have holidays. so we are seeing an increase,

but it can be controlled if people choose to control it. that is the if. there is no magic here. this is a function of our actions. and to the extent it is covid fatigue and people are now gathering in home parties, that is where the infection is coming from. so, we urge the same precautions with more diligence, i think people hear about a vaccine and say well the end is near, coy start to relax. you can't. and we're seeing the numbers all across the country go up and we're adding restrictions as the numbers increase. i do not believe, or maybe i'm just praying and hope, i don't think we've get back to where we were. i don't believe it will be that bad again. but we want to save as many

lives as possible and keep the economy functioning and that is the balance we're working to reach. >> are schools going to close on monday if we top 3%? >> yep. because the way it works in new york with schools, we have 700 local school districts, and we set parameters and we let local governments then set parameters for their particular district with their parents and with their teachers. new york city set 3% as the agreement. if the number goes over 3%, the infection rate which by the way is very low, right, almost 80% of the states are above 3%. 3% is a low number. but if it goes over 3%, the schools will close. the question then will be how quickly can we reopen them.

and we've learned a lot over the past few months. we now do a tremendous am of testing in the schools. and what we've learned, katy, is we're not seeing spread in the schools. you see a very low percentage of positivity in the schools. so even though you have a jurisdiction that may be at 3%, that doesn't mean that the schools are what is spreading it and we have to take that into consideration and i think that will facilitate a reopening. >> so why close the schools if the schools aren't the problem. why do that to parents? >> well, because the agreement, a local school districts, remember where we were. parents were nervous and everybody was nervous. the local school districts consulted their parents, the teachers at the time, the teachers union at the time and they came up with a an agreement about the conditions that would

open the schools and what would close the schools. the agreement in new york city was just that. if the infection rate in new york city went above 3%, the schools close. that is the agreement. >> governor andrew cuomo, i have dominated way too much of your time today. thank you so much for sticking around and answering all of the questions. we appreciate it. i certainly appreciate it. thank you, sir. >> my pleasure. and when we return, joe biden wins arizona. the first democrat to do so since 1996. and now nbc news has declared biden the apparent winner in georgia. making him the first democrat to do that in that state since 1992. tonight a hand recount is underway in georgia and we'll get the latest on that right after this. after this use a single hr software? nope.

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joe biden has slipped another red state. nbc news declaring him the winner in georgia. that means the victory is close nuch enough that the outcome may be on a hand recount. the audit is marking one of the largest hand recounting efforts in u.s. history. the margin of victory is over 14,000 votes in georgia. as republicans wage a civil war over trump's false claims of voter fraud. georgia said it expects to finish tallying the nearly 5

million ballots cast by midnight on wednesday. in order to certify the results of the presidential race by next friday. let's bring in nbc's shaquille brewster live in lawrenceville, georgia in a processing center in gwinnett county. so it looks empty behind you. tell us what you've been seeing all day and how hard is it to count all of these ballots by hand and to do so by next wednesday? >> reporter: we have a bad timing as most of the auditors have gone off on break. there is a 30-minute break. an this is the last team and you see them putting the ballots into that secure container. these are ballots that i believe they have already counted, they have already double counted and it is a very tedious process where they go through each ballot and look at the selection and the voter makes an then once they agree on it they put it in a pile of the candidate. you see that table there. that said trump and biden and

und votes and over votes and then they go through and agree on the counts and counts each pile. and it is an effort that takes multiple people and right now they're sealing up that last container before people go off to break. the reason why i want to point this out is that this is just a quick 30 minute breck and you see all of that goes into that process. this is what they're going to have to do for 400,000 ballots just in this county alone. more than 5 million ballots across the state of georgia. you see they're going one by one. it is that massive hand recount that is taking place here. now not only is that presidential audit that is going on. that is what the folks are looking at, the results of the presidential election. there is also that senate runoff. and nbc news projected that both senate races will go into a runoff happening on january 5th. we've seen candidates out on the campaign trail today with former

florida governor rick scott and we'll see jon ossoff having an event in athens, georgia. you see the ads starting an the money pouring into the state and both sides trying to show how important this next race is. >> whenever you are in a battleground state, ahead of an election, you know that the worst thing is all of the ads you get bombarded with on television. so i could only imagine georgians pain as they thought they only had to hold on to the election and now have not one but two senate runoffs and all of the ads that will come with it. shack brewster, get comfortable there in georgia. we have a long ways to go. exactly. thanks so much. and when we return, barack obama speaking out about joe biden and the transition of power and where donald trump and republicans are living in

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when donald trump won, i stayed up until 2:30 in the morning and i then called donald trump to congratulate him. his margin of victory over hillary clinton wasn't greater than joe biden's margin over him. but if you're listen to some of the talk radio that trump voters are listening to, if you're watching fox news and getting the tweets, those allegations are presented as facts. so you've got millions of people who thinks they must be cheating because the president said so. >> president obama's rendition is not exactly a secret. much of donald trump's presidency is dedicating to tearing down his predecessor's achievements. for four years conservatives have insisted that donald trump's victory in 2016 was an

outright repudiation of the obama years. so did 2020 change that narrative at all? think about it. obama's former vice president, joe biden, holding donald trump, the incumbent, from another term in office and it looks like by the same electoral college margin. was that a referendum? joining us now is aisha mills and jason johnson also back with us. thanks both for being here. i guess i'll start with you aisha, donald trump did add voters but at the same time, joe biden is going to looks like beat him 306 votes by millions more votes than hillary clinton did. can the democrats faithfully argue that this is a repudiation of donald trump? >> well, hey, katy, it is good to see you.

i still want to sit in celebration mode and i feel like we are jumping to some of the wrong arguments and conversations here. this election was historic because more people voted for president than ever before in history and to me that is a big deal. coming off the heels of a guy who did everything he possibly could to destroy our democracy, to destroy our institutions. you actually saw the greatest participation in and belief in american ideals than we've seen before. so joe biden got more votes as president but donald trump also got more votes as the loser in the presidential election. the idea that so many people are participating to me is the celebration, it is a story, the thing we need to hold on to because wee need those folks to come back to the table and recognize that it matters when we come out in mass. and in terms of the talking points and the narratives, trump

is going to trump. trump is going to continue to lie, deceive, be a bad sport, pretend that he didn't lose this thing and i don't know that it serves the biden/harris administration, to even wade into the water on whether we smacked you down or we're just taking over. the truth is they need to show up and govern and they have the mandate to do that and i don't know that is serves them to get into how big of a mandate they have. they need to get in there and prove that their vote did counts and they're vote did matter. >> i think you're right and it is wonderful that so many people turned out to vote. absolutely wonderful. but it is still not enough. the majority voting block is still the people who don't go out and vote. there are hundreds of millions or over 100 million people in that country that don't vote. and i guess when you look the current eco-system and you think

to yourself, gosh, we have to get these people back into the process, half of the -- or one political party out of two, really, saying that the entire thing is a fraud and you can't trust our electoral >> here is the thing, katy, every single year as america grows bigger, right, the winner of every presidential election will win by a larger margin or win a larger number of votes. the country is getting bigger and bigger every year. the even more important issue is this. when you win and the democrats have won, you get to define it however you want. you can call it a beatdown, smack down, shellacking, call world star, it doesn't matter. you won, you beat the other side. part of being a good winner is defining how you won and, you know, barack obama, george bush, donald trump, bill clinton, they did not sit around fretting on how to define the fact they won. that's what the democrats need to be focused on right now, and

the fact that the republican party has dedicated itself to essentially an apartheid system with minority rule and keep large swaths of people able to vote and making sure former felons can't vote and making it difficult for college students to vote, that should be part of what inspires democrats to talk about how well they did. the truth of the matter is, that large swath of people that didn't vote, you mentioned something interesting. how do we get these people back in the system? a lot of these people haven't been in the system because of structural impediments that kept them from getting involved. >> yeah. i want to read one thing and iesha you only have 20 seconds because we have a hard wall. here is a tweet from susan glasser. now that china congratulated biden, that leaves putin, trump and the republican party as holdouts. [ laughter ] >> good news joe biden does not need any congratulations to assume his role in the white house and to get through

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thank you for spending this hour of "deadline white house" with us. "the beat" with ari melber starts now. >> thank you very much. welcome to "the beat." in this his tore ri historic we more resolution on the campaign. we have joe biden as the winner in georgia. there is still a recount underway. nbc does make that projection, though, that's a confident view of the current result. it grows biden's total victory to 306 electoral votes to 232 for trump. that's the exact same state electoral margin trump by won by in 2016 while joe biden's edge in the total vote is higher. that's the raw factual context. donald trump is the loser of the race for his reemerging late