a video thanking fans for being a part of the tour. if you are taking notes, for this tour, he played more than 32 million notes within 330 shows, more than 6 million fans attended. by the way, there were two marriage proposals. we wish him well. we are going to miss him. that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports, also again next saturday at noon eastern from los angeles. my friend yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage right now. now. >> hi, everybody. good to see him. good afternoon, i'm yasmin vossoughian. the president is in the air right now on his way to an overseas trip with a lot on the agenda, including try to shore up international support for ukraine. he made it clear there was one bridge he will not cross when it comes to the embattled nation. when >> i don't think it's

ready for membership in nato, the whole of nato together is really critical. i don't think there's unanimity in nato about whether or not to bring ukraine into the nato family now at this moment in the middle of a war. tim >> and the former president las vegas this weekend, making clear who leases's two biggest rivals in his quest to return to the white house. a live report on that in a couple of minutes. and expect fireworks on capitol hill as congress reconvenes tomorrow. expected, admits, i should say, marjorie taylor greene and the house freedom caucus. voted to kick her out. plus, i wanna speak to sara mcbride, hopes to become the very first transgender member of the u.s. congress. that is coming up. you do not want to miss an incredibly crucial conversation. and black friday in july. -- by retailers to get shoppers

back into the stores. we're gonna tell you all about that coming up. we want to start that with the president. over the atlantic this hour with a very busy agenda, we lengthening. lyndon b.c.'s -- found this for us from london. josh, good to talk to you. the president meeting with king charles tomorrow. i believe, however, nato, the number one most urgent matter the president will be addressing. >> that's right, as i'm, ukraine is gonna be top of the agenda for this entire trip. including here in the uk when he meets not only with king charles, but also the prime minister rishi sunak. will also certainly be the key focus at that nato summit in lithuania. and while at some of these previous global summit that president biden has attended over the last year and a half during this ukraine war, it has been fairly straightforward for the u.s. and its allies, to send a clear signal of support for ukraine. at the summit, it's getting a little bit more complicated. on the one hand, you have president biden showing up with this new commitment by the

united states government to provide ukraine with cluster bombs to use and its defense against russia. on the other hand, you have the ingredients, increasingly dismayed at the resistance within the nato alliance to actually it may ukraine as a member. there have been misgivings about that from many of the nations, including the u.s. with president biden saying in that cnn interview that frankly, if you were to admit ukraine right now, well it's that war with russia, that essentially put the entire nato alliance in direct military conflict with nuclear armed russia. president biden, in that cnn interview, also making it clear that when it comes to ukraine joining nato, the answer is not no, it's just not right now. watch. >> i think we have to lay out a path, a rational path, for russia, excuse me, for ukraine to be able to qualify to get into nato. and we have, for the very first

time i met with putin two years ago in geneva, he said, i want commitments on no ukraine in nato, i said, we are not gonna do that. it's an open door policy. we are not gonna shut anybody out. >> it's worth noting, yasmin, the ukrainians have been waiting already, more than 15 years since a nato summit in bucharest back in 2000 and a former president bush. ukraine was offered membership. in the meantime, this is also going to be during president biden's final stop, in finland, which was supposed to be joining nato alongside sweden over the last few months. finland allowed into nato, sweden still waiting on its admission to nato as a result of reluctance from some of the allies, most notably hungry in turkey. we have just learned that today, president biden has spoken about sweden's bid to join nato with president erdogan of turkey. we believe that was likely conversation that took place on

air force one while the president was flying over here to london. certainly, this issue of who gets to join nato and how quickly is going to be a key focus for all of these allies as the me throughout the week, yasmin. >> we're gonna be watching the presidents overseas trip throughout the week here on msnbc. josh lederman, thank you for that update. appreciate it. we have more breaking news, everybody, at this time coming from the middle east. u.s. officials confirming an air strike has killed -- the strike was conducted in eastern syria on friday, a pentagon statement saying there are no indications any civilians were killed, were also being told is carried out by aircraft, u.s. central command says were harassed by a russian aircraft earlier today. talked about it a bit earlier, former prison on the campaign trail this weekend as he maintains a commanding lead in the 2024 primary. on average, leads florida governor, ron desantis, by nearly 30 percentage points. vaughn hillyard is following

this in las vegas for us with the -- von, he is not on desantis, even as his lead seems to be growing. it certainly seems he has as i am more on the general election. >> right, along with some attacks along the way against ron desantis. donald trump yesterday here in las vegas, his first stop as a presidential candidate in 2024. putting his focus on democrats and joe biden here. trying to paint the race as being biden v. trump already to the republican electorate, suggesting that it's time to focus on the democrats and put our resources and our intention there. take a listen to part of the former presidents remarks, here in vegas, just last night. >> we have a corrupt incompetent leader in biden. everyone knows, i wouldn't have said this three weeks ago, i wouldn't have said it, it was very kind to him, i was very

kind to him. we cannot be kind anymore because the gloves are off, the jar has been opened. >> of course, donald trump hasn't been kind of joe biden years. in 2020 he suggested that joe biden would be put into a home. his characterization of something changed over the last three weeks is not accurate. this is the messaging millions of americans are taking in from donald trump, yasmin. on one hand, trump remarked, we should note, yesterday, to that crowd, he's not so sure that he can call joe biden sleepy joe anymore because he is also, at the same time, suggesting that joe biden and hunter biden are part of a multi million dollar scheme to take money from foreign countries. he told the crowd he must not be that sleepy if he's able to pull off something like that. of course, there's been no evidence presented that joe biden has financially benefited from any of the biden family dealings. this is donald trump's reality

that he is portraying to the masses that are hearing him out. that's what democrats are going to be up against, if in fact, donald trump does descend into the republican nomination. >> all right, don hiller for, us appreciate it. coming, up everybody, the lost in the courts. now, iowa republicans are calling a rare special session this week to take another shot at a restrictive abortion ban. -- voters against it. iowa house minority leader, jennifer converse, joins me when we're back in just 60 seconds. t 60 seconds. got the new myplan, so she gets exactly what she wants and only pays for what she needs. she picks her perks and saves on every one. make your move to myplan. act now and get it for $25 when you bring your phones. it's your verizon.

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republican governor, kim reynolds, as she puts it, the session is for, quote, the sole purpose of an acting legislation that addresses abortion and protects unborn lies. currently in iowa, abortion is legal up until 20 weeks. joining us now is iowa state house minority leader, democrat jennifer conversed. thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. i want to talk polling if i, can first. some polls we've been seeing lately when it comes to where islands stand on abortion rights. 61% of islands actually say abortion should be legal in all or most cases. 35% comparatively saying abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. then you have your governor, essentially saying, and i quote, the lack of action on abortion disregards the will of iowa voters. that doesn't really add up. >> no, it certainly doesn't add up. i think it's fair to say the governor here is obsessed with

her lawmakers and her voters. she is frankly implying that the voters elected republican majority so they could have this issue taking care of. all she's doing is abusing her power and putting politics and the special interests over the will of islands. it's simply unacceptable. this is par for the course for governor reynolds. >> so, the special session, the law being considered is similar to the law considered back in 2018 -- didn't get through because of a stalemate and/or deadlock at the state supreme court level. are you hopeful there will be legal challenges to what they're trying to get past now? >> yeah, i mean, we're hopeful this bill doesn't go forward in whatever way it takes. i owe women are going to die. since it's against the bill of iowa voters. what i will tell you is there's a supreme court justice who had

to refuse herself from the case in 2018. chances, arsenal have to recuse herself this time. this is basically taking it back to the courts, the exact same bill, almost exactly the same, one minor change. and they're gonna try to essentially call the court's bluff and say, now we have all of your voting, but with us. i'm hopeful they will still look at the law and see that on substance, it's still no law that's appropriate for islands. you know, i've lost a lot of hope in counting on the courts. what we really have to do is brace ourselves, do all we can to provide access for women in the state, and then turn out the vote in 24 to fix things. >> so, let's talk about the reality on the ground, right? essentially have both houses, both chambers controlled by republicans at this point. you're looking at the makeup of the state supreme court as well, as you just said in your own words, you're not necessarily confident in the courts really at this point to protect abortion rights for women in iowa. what now than, if in fact this

gets through? how do we support women i weather seeking out abortions? >> i think it's really important to remember that right now, iowa still has abortion legal up until 20 weeks. it'll be true until she signs a spill. so, making sure the islands have access to the reproductive care that we need. after that, it's working with partners, it's making sure that this law is not as devastating as it could be, or helping people find the care they need another states. and we're continuing to work on other priorities like providing postpartum care for medicaid patients, making sure birth control is more accessible, things like that the republicans are also opposing. frankly, if the republicans want to shine a light in the fact that they're against what i winds want by holding a special session and taking away our rights, we're gonna spend the next 400 days or so making sure islands no. >> real quick here, while i have you, i want to ask you about recent adjustments or changes to child labor laws and you see, as we're talking about

governor kim reynolds, actions by her signing a bill, loosening child labor laws to children that can work as young as 14 years of age. increasing the number of hours they can work up until 11 pm in the areas in which they were previously forbidden to, work like industrial laundry, me coolers, refers as well, opponents to this law, to this action, they argue this could target and exploited lower income and minority teens. what is your reaction to this? >> it's a terrible bill, one of the hardest parts is, you know, we're not talking about a kid who gets a paper wrote a works at the local dairy queen. we're talking dedicated his young and says, i can make more money to help my family pay the bills. that kid is of course going to prioritize work over school and kids and i would deserve the chance to be kids, to join extracurricular cooties, to be students and not focus on work. but these lower income kids who really need to help the family

are gonna take this opportunity and do it. i don't blame him for it. they're doing exactly what they need to do for their families. we, as a state, have an obligation to protect them from that kind of pressure. we feel those kids right now with this bill. >> state representative jennifer converse, thank you so much. appreciate. it still ahead, everybody, u.s. congress may soon have its first openly trans lawmaker, sarah mcbride, running delaware, will be coming in later on to talk about her chances and what she hopes to accomplish if she makes it into office. plus, possible retaliation, how vladimir putin may be attempting to reassert dominance won the wagner group short-lived rebellion. and black friday in july. what to expect from the next week's sales expected to generate billions of dollars. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. cancer, they need support. subaru and our retailers are there to help... by providing blankets for comfort and warmth

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russian paramilitary group knew. video chain by nbc, appearing to show members of the wagner group flying out of the central african republic into more than 600 members have been spotted leaving, according to local organizations and analysts as well. want to bring in nbc's dunnville, is reporting on the story and has more for us. dan, if you will, before this rebellion happened, i mean, we knew the wagner group had a major presence in the central african republic, supported by and in the position there for vladimir putin, for the russians, what are they doing now, what is this video and the news there and plenty about their positioning? >> so, there are two things going on, one, yasmin, is russia is trying to reassure these african governments that these paramilitaries aren't going anywhere, that russia is going to help these regimes, --

fight their enemies. u.s. of hundreds of wagner troops, flying out of the central african republic, the video shows them gathered at a helipad in an airport there in the capital, the question really is, to what degree is moscow trying to reassert its control over this group? of course staged a mutiny in russia without disbanding them. i think it's a pretty big project, something like 6000 of these troops and units all over sub-saharan africa, north africa, libya, sudan. and they not only are providing security, using heavy-handed topics in atrocities, but they also get access to minds, diamond and gold mines, major business centers and here. how does moscow manage this? i don't think we know the answer to that, this is now

feeding speculation there's some kind of a purge underway being carried out by the kremlin. >> for the first time we're getting the truth on all of this, although we already knew. it obviously, the -- banquet by the russian government. vladimir putin admitting growing about a billion dollars or so for the wagner group. when you are thinking about the future of the wagner group, you can't help but think about prigozhin. we saw some images up on the screen as you are speaking. do we have any idea as to where he is now in his future? >> i think that is the big question right now. and there is no clear indication where he, is right? after that knee, there was that sort of ambiguous deal that was reached that the belarusian president, lukashenko, announced, some of -- safe haven of sorts in belarus.

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intensify on capitol hill as congress is back in session admits the potential showdown. it's between congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and the freedom caucus. some two weeks ago, they held a vote out star. it's the remains unclear whether she'll be formally removed from the caucus, we'll find out this week. joining me now with more on this is nbc's -- got some reporting. could we see, essentially, the overarching question, the freedom caucus formally announced that marjorie taylor greene is out. >> yeah, yasmin, i think we'll see some sort of formal statement from the house freedom caucus sometime this. week it's gonna be a lot easier for us reporters we will find out exactly what went down here when congress members are back in the halls, roman, around and grateful to talk to them face to face instead of this he said she said situation. you'll remember this all began two weeks ago, just before the fourth of july holiday, before congress took off, when the house freedom caucus held a friday morning atm meeting, that they advise just the night before. according to a person close to representative marjorie taylor greene, couldn't attend due to

votes and previously scheduled travel. that's apparently when they took the vote to oust her from the caucus. this would be a bigger loss for the caucus itself and it would be for marjorie taylor greene. remember, she is the biggest fund-raiser for the caucus itself. raises a ton of money for them. also somebody who is closest to former president donald trump. you see her on the trail all across the country, not just in georgia, but all across the country, traveling with him and campaigning for him as he runs for president. certainly we'll see some fireworks here on capitol hill as it relates to what greene thinks about all of this this week. >> some belated fireworks after the 4th of july holiday. majority leader, schumer, as well, gary, sending a letter to democrats, laying out future priorities. what are they? >> yeah, they have three weeks between when they come back on tuesday and when they leave again for august recess. they're gonna get as much done as possible. the biggest and we want to try to get done is funding the government, which is of course never an easy thing to do. number one, that's number two,

the national defense authorization act, essentially funds the military of the united states. that's another priority. there is a number of policy goals which include the fentanyl crisis, prescription drugs, online and rail safety. of course, foreign policy. then there is the big one at the bottom as it relates to supreme court ethics reform. this is something that both sides want to see, something done, but as to what exactly that's gonna be, i think it's easier said than done. yasmin? >> yeah, million dollar question there. thank you. we got some new nbc exclusive reporting making new claims about how former president trump handled classified documents while in office. the former chief of staff of dhs, miles taylor, recounting an incident back in 2018 in his upcoming book in which he said trump displayed classified documents in the oval office in front of reporters relating to intelligence on reporter jamal khashoggi's death.

writes that reporters were unlikely to happen likely to read the text. white house officials right, registered by the laps in protocol and pro protection of classified information. want to bring in former federal prosecutor numbness and pc legal analyst -- to talk more about this. as always, glenn, it's great to talk to you about the stuff. how do you think information like this, revelations from a book, for instance, that's coming out, like miles taylor's, that kind of play into the ongoing investigation. is this an instance, possibly, in which he would then say, maybe it's time i interviewed someone like miles taylor? >> great question, yasmin, because even though this may not directly involve the classified documents that donald trump took when he left the white house and unlawfully concealed and is now indicted for any number of criminal offenses concerning those

documents, there doesn't seem to be a lot of factual overlap. however, what it does this shows donald trump's pattern or practice of completely disregarding the sanctity of classified information and classified documents. i'm sure jack smith will be keenly interested in it. i would certainly subpoena miles taylor and put him before the grand jury to testify about what he knows, what he saw, and what he heard. hearsay is admissible before the grand jury about donald trump's potential mishandling of classified information while president. that's not to say that evidence will necessarily be admissible at donald trump's future trial in federal court in florida. it might, be that's the kind of issue that motions will be filed about. it'll be litigated and the judge would have to make the decision. is this relevant in the classified documents prosecution? >> so, we have to keep reminding folks, there's two

simultaneous investigations going on, one of which we know, obviously the indictment now in florida with the indictment in florida, and then, of course, the january six investigation by the special counsel as well. cnn reporting, the special counsel is looking into that december 18th meeting. many of us know well now, this is after the election which the former president, it seemed, was thinking of different ways in which to kind of go for a power grab, possibly invoking martial law, describing this meeting is chaotic and unhinged. using the military to seize voting machines. these ideas that were thrown around. this december 18th meeting was also meeting, as we know now, that was focused on by the january six committee investigating the insurrection at the capitol. let's play some testimony from this and then we'll talk. >> i was not happy to see the people in the oval office.

>> explain. >> again, i don't think they're providing, we'll, first of all, the overstock person, i don't know who this guy was. >> at times there is people shouting at each other, throwing insults at each other. >> both challenge which is saying and she says, well, the judges are corrupt. i was like, everyone? every single case that you've done in the country has lost, every one of them is, kropyvnytsky pointed? and i'm being nice, i was much more harsh to her. >> what do you make of this new reporting, glenn? what does this tell you about the stage of this investigation? are you at all surprised that it's emerging now about jack smith looking into that december 18th meeting? >> i would be surprised if jack smith was only getting around to investigating this now. we don't know how long he's been talking with people are putting people before the grand jury regarding this meeting. if we take one aspect of the

meeting that's been reported on, and that is the discussion about whether the -- military should seize voting machines. jack smith, i'm sure, keenly interested in seeing how many people decided that, yes, we should seize voting machines. in other words, how many people may have entered into a criminal agreement to seize voting machines. once he determines who may have entered into that agreement that was a good thing to do, we know, based on some reporting from about a year ago that there was a draft presidential order directing the secretary of defense to seize voting machines, would have been theft. it would've been illegal. but because somebody drafter that order, yasmin, the conspiracy may have been complete. all you need is the agreement to do it and one -- one act in the direction of committing. yeah i'm sure all of this is of keen interest to jack smith's federal prosecutors. >> just talking about timing here, glenn, we don't yet know the timing, obviously, of the

beginning of the trial when it comes to the documents case. we know there's gonna be a lot of pushback, as we've already seen. when do you think we would see a formal announcement on whether charges will be brought when it comes to january 6th, do you see this happening for 24? >> my magic eight ball is not working all that well at the moment, but i would say that jack smith is obviously aware of the upcoming presidential election, november, 2024. the campaign that will go on, you know, endlessly in advance of the election. i have to believe that if he has enough evidence to indict charges, you know, on and around january 6th, he would probably want to do that very early in 2024. perhaps, you know, january, february, before we get too close to the november 2024 election. >> glenn kirschner, thank you as always, sir, appreciate it. let's talk about the economy for a moment, folks. despite adding, we've got the job support, right?

200,000 new jobs in june. it was the first time in 15 months that job growth fell short of expectations. consumer spending also showing signs of slowing, indicating the high interest rates in effect are working as planned. however, that could change in a couple days with some of the biggest shopping deals of the year. we want to nbc's marissa -- standing by for us with more on this. what should shoppers be looking forward to in this black friday in the middle of summer? >> yeah, well, black friday in july. it is already here. if you look down to amazon anytime lately, finally seen them very loudly advertising amazon prime days. that starts on tuesday. target sales went live today, the bigger picture, looking at data from an april survey by the new york fed, americans have overwhelmingly been scaling back on spending. ovewe're gonna hear but as the median expect to change a household spending, it's a stark difference from what looked like a peak last april,

study declined, since it shows within the last six months, 80% of consumers say they've scaled back on things they have deemed nonessential, like clothing, to core, entertainments. and this is something big box retailers like best buy, home depot, target, walmart have all warned about. this trend of what they're calling cautious consumer spending. obviously, it's not helping the bottom line. walmart says they're seeing families with income under 50, 000, really focusing on groceries and ways they haven't seen in a while. they're -- seeing a decline in people buying, again, those nonessential, especially with decor and wardrobe. if you look at the trends over the course of history, it will come as little surprise, yasmin, that is people are tightening their budgets, we're seeing a rise and people spending on the little things. tiktok has branded the little treat lifestyle, if he will. lots of deals on small items this week from places like amazon, stories like coles, target, savings in the hundreds

from places like best buy. so, yasmin, these big box retailers that are really feeling the pinch, obviously trying to market these big sales when and where they can. >> yeah, maybe it's time to capitalize on those back to school sales ahead of the end of summer. >> this is your time, this is your week. >> yeah, marissa, thank you so much, appreciate it. all, right so, for those who tuned in yesterday. you see him back in this chair, right? it's all because i didn't win the powerball lottery ticket last night. as it turns out, no one else did either. what was an estimated half a billion dollar jackpot is expected to jump up to at least 650 million for monday night straw. so, we have another chance. a statement for powerball officials saying that prices already ranking as the night largest jackpot on record. if you don't get that, you also have the mega millions, by the way, a couple different chances, drawing on tuesday. that is up to 400 and $80 million.

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you to all americans for what you have done. i appreciate those who say that you have done enough. trust me, no matter what, i appreciate help, when it comes to the word enough, well, where ukrainians are not people known for excessive appetites. our victory is enough for us. >> ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy, in a new interview on a weekend, marking 500 days since russia declared war. zelenskyy is getting those controversial clusters forms from the united states. the f-16s are not there yet. his military's counter offensive against russian troops continues, even as u.s. officials say it's going slower than they had hoped. nbc's kelly kobe's and q for us. kelly, talk to us, how are

ukrainians marking this weekend? >> he has been, first of all, they're celebrating because they got a big and symbolic victory this weekend, winning the release of five key commanders who helped to defend mariupol down to the last days, those men who were in that as of stole steel plant fighting to the very and for some two months while that city, mariupol, is under siege by the russians. they finally surrendered to the russians back in may of last year. they were taken prisoner along with scores of others. they were then traded in a prisoner swap with russia last fall. as part of the deal, they were sent to turkey. they have remained there for the past 300 days. just now released this past weekend. yesterday, in fact, after president zelenskyy met with the turkish president erdogan on friday.

now, the kremlin is not at all happy about this. they say they knew nothing about, it they didn't prove, and it violates the terms of that deal. they say that those fighters in particular were meant to stay in turkey until the end of the war. to be continued on that front. one of them saying at a press conference yesterday that he was ready to return to the front. in addition to that big big news, and it was big news in this country, there was a prayer vigil held, president zelenskyy was there and lviv in the west on saturday to mark the 500 days. he also posted video of a visit to snake island in the black sea. that is the place where famously ukrainian troops defied russian orders to surrender at the very beginning of the war. that territory was taken by russians and then retaken by ukraine. another big symbol for the ukrainians. president zelenskyy saying this is a symbol of victory, this is

a sign that we will retake every last interview territory. yasmin, on that front, the ukrainians still trying to protect this image that they're making progress. they say it slow, but it is progress nonetheless. the commander of ground troops this weekend saying that there has been some progress in bakhmut in the east that some russian soldiers are trapped in some places. again, president zelenskyy trying to underscore the point, saying, we're not stuck in one place, we are advancing. of, course ahead of the all-important nato summit on tuesday and wednesday. yasmin? >> yeah, kelly kobe for, us thank you so much, appreciate it. coming up, everybody, at the top of the, hour president biden leading heavily on the economy as he tries to push a positive image in his reelection bid. democratic congresswoman from michigan, debbie dingell, joins me with what he sees as the winning message. up, first in the face of increasing anti-trans laws, we

may soon see our first openly transgender member of congress. state senator in u.s. house hopeful, sarah mcbride joins me next. we will be right back. we will be right back. and she's got the new myplan, so she gets exactly what she wants and only pays for what she needs. she picks her perks and saves on every one. make your move to myplan. act now and get it for $25 when you bring your phones. it's your verizon. >> new this weekend, everybody,

a federal appeals court has ruled tennessee's ban on gender-affirming care for minors can go into effect at least for now. it reverses a lower court's ruling which had found the ben

discriminated on the basis of sex. the way the legislation like that is one big reason that sarah mcbride, a state senator from delaware, is hoping to make history as the first openly trans person elected to the u.s. congress. and it seems like the people of her state might be on board as the campaign announced this on social media. quote, in just the first five days of this campaign, we raised more than $414, 000, including a generous support of almost 550 delaware donors from every corner of the state. she joins me now, sara mcbride, state senator from delaware. now a candidate to represent the state in congress. that's a heck of a lot of money from a heck of a lot of people. thank you so much, senator mcbride, for joining us on this. talk about your campaign and why you want to get in the national game. >> first off, thank you so much for having me. i'm running for congress because i believe that

government needs to work better for workers and families, especially when hard times hit. that's why ran for the delaware state senate. it's why i've championed in past policies like paid family medical leave. it's also where morning for congress now because ultimately, to address the needs that workers and families across the state of delaware have. to address those issues, we need federal action and federal investment to guarantee affordable early childhood education, to make sure that we have as robust a paid leave policy as possible. to pass common sense gun safety measures at the national level and to truly enshrine the right to choose under federal law. those are the reasons why i'm running. as you mentioned, there are certainly a whole host of attacks on a community that i'm a part of. what those attacks reinforces that if you are not at the table than you're on the menu. this year, we have an opportunity, but more importantly responsibility to demonstrate that our democracy is big enough for all of us. i'm very proud that, as you

mentioned, delaware up and down the state, have visited serum right.com to donate, to volunteer, to make sure that this campaign winds in 2024 and as a critical voice that's missing in congress to the table. >> so, you talk about, you know, the anti-trans legislation, you talked about workers, early childhood education as well, we've recently seen some decision of the supreme court level as well, discriminating, it seems, against lgbtq+ community. what do you think your presence in congress would help with? what would it do? >> well, first off, i think the only way democracy works is for all of us to have a rule in it. and for democracy to truly be healthy and successful, it needs to include every voice, that is the only way we're able to create policies that meet the needs of a diverse society and a diverse country. but also, i think it'll be

incredibly powerful. should i have the privilege of representing delaware in the u.s. congress, to have an openly transgender member of congress who's working on all of the issues that matter to delawareans and actually delivering on those issues. let the cruelty of the far-right wing politicians and congress contrast with our compassion. let their pettiness contrast with our focus on making progress. also what these attacks from these right-wing politicians are seeking to do is distract from the fact that they have absolutely no plans to meet the needs of workers and families, not just here in delaware, but across the country. they're trying to distract from that fact. >> state senator mcbride, we cannot interview and not talk about your history and who you worked for. i know you have a long history with the biden family. you also worked for both biden, politico has a piece about that, you've gotten shutouts from the

president himself. saying the mentions wrote to a person of people in biden's orbit and others and advocacy space has directly shaped biden's personal and political evolution on transgender issues. you actually told them this about the president himself, we talk about how scared people around the country. i've shared with him just how much it means to people when they see him speak up and act up to protect lgbtq rights and lgbtq people. have you talked to the president in running for the house? will he campaign on your behalf? what types of conversations have you had? >> well, over the last several years, i am proud to have had the chance to talk with this president about this moment and our politics about how fair minded delaware voters have been in electing me to the delaware general assembly about our progress in the general assembly. of course, about just how important his leadership on equality is. ten demonstrate to young people

across this country that the president has their backs. i think right now, he's certainly focused on his reelection, i'm excited to support his reelection. i'm focused on my campaign. but i think in 2024, we can reelect joe biden and kamala harris to the white house, making sure they have everyone's back. we can also send an important message to young people across this country that their dreams of identity are not mutually exclusive, they can run for office and serve. but we need peoples help to do that, we need folks to visit sarah mcbride.com, ultimately there is a reason this is never been done before. it's a challenge and we need peoples help to get there. >> democrat delaware state senator, sarah mcbride, not running for congress. i hope when you're in the throes of the 2024 election cycle, senator, that you will come back and speak with us again. we wish you the best of luck. thank you. we have a lot more folks, you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now.