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right and center and pointed toward a way of transcending the presently unbridgeable political divide feeling kept up the attack against crony capitalism and her labor day rally speech last week. you are. going. to repudiate their crony capitalism. and below for their beliefs. and then she delivered the message again last night on fox so-called news bashing governor rick perry's decision to mandate young girls get vaccinated against the h.p.v. virus that decision that helped a former aide of his who went to work for the same drug company that manufactured the vaccine. that's crony capitalism that's part of the problem that we have in this country is that people are afraid even within our own party to call one another out on that true reform and fighting the corruption and fighting the crony
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capitalism is a tough thing to do within your own party you have to go up against the big guns and they will try to destroy you when you call them out on the mistakes that they have made but we you know the point is when a crony corporate mouthpiece like sarah paling is decrying crony capitalism then you know there is a serious problem with too much money in our government. it's an issue i talk about in chapter eighteen of my book on equal protection a problem politicians handing over massive chunks of our commons from schools to hospitals to energy resources over to corporations to carve up for profits and then rewriting the rules of capitalism along the way through subsidies and tax loopholes to make their buddy buddy c.e.o.'s even more profitable core sarah palin supports the privatization of the commons but in this new populist incarnation she just says doesn't she doesn't like how it's done the backroom deals the political
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contributions the quid pro quos but considering that we live in a democracy or at least did before the supreme court citizens united decision and bribing politicians is the only way for corporations to get preferential treatment or at least the easy preferred way after all the vast majority of americans sarah palin excluded are opposed to the crony capitalism of taxpayer subsidies to oil corporations yet vote after vote politicians keep the corporate welfare spigot open to the tune of tens of billions of dollars for the likes of exxon mobil and chevron again the vast majority of americans again sir felix pale in excluded think it's an outrage the billionaires like warren buffett pay a lower tax rate than their secretaries do thanks to the capital gains tax loopholes yet vote after vote politicians keep a tax breaks alive for america's wealthiest hedge fund managers. ensure the vast majority of americans against sarah palin excluded think dishing out hundreds of
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billions of dollars in taxpayer money to defense corporations in the form of no bid contracts to build unnecessary weapons systems is another outrageous form of crony capitalism just last year after of all the pentagon's defense contractors to contracts to private contractor contractors were all of the no bid variety costing taxpayers an extra one hundred forty billion dollars according to the center for public integrity this is all crony capitalism at work against the will of the people but at the behest of billion dollar corporations hiring million dollar lobbyists to custom make our economy to meet the needs of the very very wealthy in her i was speech pale and noted that seven of the ten wealthiest counties in america are in the suburbs around washington d.c. . this is a topic that historian thomas frank explored and he took a drive from some of these incredibly wealthy suburbs and what this has made
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washington into is the city with you know a lot of still glorious federal monuments and monumental buildings and these sort of you know huge bureaucracies and that sort of thing but the real power is further out it's in the contractors offices and the lobbyist's offices you know out in the suburbs where those people live and where they do their work and we're going to take a look at that privatizing is that you know is what built this area and what made d.c. now d.c. but the d.c. metro area so wealthy so incredibly rich. we only cal look at look at that thing. as a car coming behind with. the fountain not really for sally you know you're a lobbyist when those are the monuments to the corporate takeover of america and elsewhere around the country in the communities crippled by foreclosure and
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unemployment and the families now living in their cars or in homeless shelters you see the consequences of this very same crony capitalism serp alun is right we need to end the corruption in our lobbyist infested government that has led us to this for the rich by the rich economy coursera pale and thinks the best way to do that is by electing people who will dismantle government which will totally leave those corporations and wealthy people to step in and fill the void i didn't say she's bright or that i agree with her solution. which really was just a side ways of attacking rick perry but i think it's great that she's willing to identify an attack crony capitalism but the truth is we need people who will dismantle corporate power and that means end in corporate personhood getting money out of politics and in the commons back to the people and making corporations pay their fair share like they used to in america before ronald reagan unfortunately to
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get sarah palin to go that far along with the agenda we might actually have to wait until pigs fly and that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our websites of thom hartmann dot com speech to organize. a check or to you tube channels there are links that sound off about this entire show is also available as a free video podcast and i tunes and we have a free tom hartman i phone an i pad app in the app store he sent us feedback at twitter of time others who are been on facebook at some underscore blogs message boards and telephone comment line at parties like and don't forget of ocracy begins when you get out there and get active your it city.
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blog. for your media. free media are cheap. but can they learn to show you the real headlines with none of them or say i don't live in washington d.c. now and i wouldn't take a look at last night's republican debate i mean team party debate on c.n.n. we're going to ask if it's proved once and for all that there isn't any difference between the two also the census bureau has released new figures showing that over forty six million people live below the poverty line in the u.s. that is the highest number that it's been since they started measuring so why does the media continue to act like it's had to subject let's talk about what it really means for america and did fannie mae bail out bank of america last month that might
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be the case and had nobody's talking about that either and the rant as i was going to fill us in with all the details or not all of that and more fit and i included those of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to move. so it's a the mainstream media continued for once to remember that there's a war going on in afghanistan since the u.s. embassy in kabul came under attack and this one they were all over. the. workers at the american embassy in kabul are hunkered down there for an attack one day in the heart in the heart of what is to be the most secure area caliban launching a series of coordinated attacks against the u.s. embassy and i think the signal in afghanistan is that karzai is we policing the insurgents or a series of attacks holding the american embassy to headquarters five or six call of on militants went to the roof of this thirty story building that was still under
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construction they were carrying maybe rocket propelled grenades. now while i applaud their efforts you know i think this only covering the longest war in u.s. history where there's a presence of one hundred thousand troops when there's a big event that doesn't mean that you actually cover the war it doesn't make up for the lack of coverage the rest of the year round and this make up for the lack of questions that we hear coming from anchors and pundits about why we're still fighting there are guards hacks against u.s. embassies and u.s. and coalition troops continue and you know they would actually been the perfect day for you not to any day isn't the right day but for the mainstream media there has to be some kind of a news or you know some kind of sound bite they can play off of something catchy that justifies. and last night c.n.n. tea party debate congressman ron paul provided perfect sound right when it finally came time to talk about the war in afghanistan and the fence spending our post nine eleven world congressman paul was the only one willing to talk about the uncomfortable truth their actions have consequences so we're under great threat
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because we occupy so many countries we're in one hundred thirty country we have nine hundred bases around the world we're going broke the purpose of real kind it was to attack us in by this over there where they can target us and they have been doing it they have more attacks against us and the american interest per month than occurred in all the years before nine eleven but we're there occupying their land in a. we think that we can do there and not have retaliation we're kidding ourselves we have to be honest with ourselves. and that is probably the most illogical thing that anybody said all night at that debate all americans might not like hearing it we have to be able to be honest with ourselves we have to be able to comprehend that our foreign policy can hurt not only others but us as well that includes our reactions to nine eleven the decade of war that's followed it we have to get our militarism more than nine hundred bases that we have around the world the drone strikes that we launch in other countries that they have real life consequences and
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they can create terror to lives lost civilians are killed or displaced and caught in the crosshairs that changes perceptions that makes other people want to react when it's their family their home base that's being occupied or interfered with and as we hear so many people asking now if we're safer ten years after nine eleven we have to take a good hard look at why we're not we have to realize that launching wars and drone strikes of military operations in iraq afghanistan pakistan yemen somalia libya and you know that list is going to go on we have to know that we're not the only ones on this earth what gives us the right to treat the entire planet like our military base what gives us the right to torture to detain people indefinitely and ask others to torture for us especially when we claim to hold the banner for freedom or democracy on the rule of law what gives us the right to ignore common sense and every single other republican candidate is willing to do just that they just went on about american exceptionalism our right to bomb everyone at last night's debate
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but ron paul at least opened the door for that real conversation what happened while he was brushed off treated like some weird for in jena and forgotten about and all of the media coverage today going over last night's debate that wasn't a sound bite that was played over and over and over again when it should have been because it's the mainstream media is just as guilty of shielding its eyes to that reality because they serve the higher powers they don't want you to think for yourself either so they serve. and i miss but if we keep doing that if we don't talk about it confronts it then we're going to lose. all right so let's talk more about last night's c.n.n. tea party debate with eight of the g.o.p. presidential candidates now mind you there was still no gary johnson no fred karger nobody roemer all of whom we've interviewed on the show all of whom continue to be excluded from all those made abates we have to ask if there is anything
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particularly tea party about this one and i'm not sure i think mostly we heard more of the same rhetoric on immigration obamacare h.p.v. and of course social security there were some actually good questions about the fed and executive orders taken from people in the audience but they weren't even addressed to every candidate maybe they ran out of time because c.n.n. that a ten minute long open resemble and the all star game more than a political debate but ok i'm going to stop i will let somebody else get in on the fun of me to talk about yesterday's events and talk about the scary prospect the fact that one of these people might become the next president of the united states and to discuss this with me as i make more santoro reporter and blogger for talking points memo thanks so much for being here tonight are you first started can you just please tell me if you noticed it too with it was this really long ridiculous intro with drums going crazy and like black lights and everybody walked out to their own audience i did you know i was on c.n.n. you know i'm still i'm sort of actually. you know watches or what channel i watch
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on t.v. i'm doing i just i mean i guess that's just what politics what political debates have become these days they have to be like glamorizing and made t.v. ready with the tea party thing right they like that sort of introduction you know it was a john adams theme i think which is that john adams theme song it was very each bureau in the series all around you know the big thinker. i thought why did c.n.n. team up with the tea party if you like that's a little confusing why would they team up with the tea party express why wouldn't. used to it or you know what gives the tea party express so much power and vision question about that actually people have been criticizing them for keeping up with what's essentially a large political pac and giving them all of their time but you know that you progress is an important part of the public and electorate these days you know in two thousand and ten they lead to so many of those primaries that we saw sharon angle christine o'donnell you have the tea party express in part to thank for greeting their mainstream republican opponents so if you want to link up with the tea party somewhere you know it's not the worst group to do it with in terms of their actual power their actual influence on the tea party movement but i
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definitely think there's some there's some question as to sort of whether they're getting a big party or not despite what you can do this but we have to hear questions from real people which is i think helpful to debate yeah i think it was really good the you actually got to hear questions from the audience that's not something that's novel i guess this time they're tea partiers so that makes it different but we're going to get back to this but i'm still i don't know confused as to whether is any real difference between the tea party and just a regular old g.o.p. debate let's go to something obviously the economy is something they're going to talk about because president obama as somebody who is trying to go for reelection faces some really horrible statistics when it comes to the economy when it comes to unemployment or not looking in his favor so you expect this to be the number one attack that republican candidates have on hand but they seem to think that it's a really really easy solution i want you to listen to something that michele bachmann and gingrich said last night. now anybody who knows anything about the federal government knows that there's such an enormous volume of waste that if you simply had
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a serious all out effort to modernize the federal government you would have hundreds of billions of dollars of savings to repeal dodge frank first people obamacare really isn't bad thank you right if you turn around this economy you ask to have the backbone to do it. so the sound got a little fuzzy at the end of that one of the really weird power anywhere really you just have to have the backbone to do it and that's how easy it is to turn around this economy so if you want to live in some magic magic other place that doesn't exist in the real world there's a book in the white house says fix the economy and if you find the press it and it fixes everything so this is the idiot who doesn't know what a great guy like a planter on top is not like that but you will think i don't know but said what you know i know what i mean wolf blitzer to actually question them on that when you congress says it's a silly idea what the knows anything about washington is you just have to modernize the economy will save hundreds of billions of dollars what the hell it is modernize the economy i mean right i mean far be it for me to defend wolf blitzer i think he can defend himself i you know it one of the hard things about these debates years so many candidates on stage it's sort of hard to get right to
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a chance specially someone like newt gingrich who literally is not going to win that nomination so really giving him more time to explain maybe you would take time away from more rick perry talking about texas but i do understand you're saying i mean i think that there is more that needs to be asked of these candidates and talk about the stuff that michele bachmann is the queen of the one liners with the stuff i deserve you know we're going to you know we're going to repeal obamacare we're going to fix gas prices are going to bring them down to two dollars a gallon just maybe president she had to really explain why or how she's going to do that why you know why it's not happening now and what she's going to do to make it out right and i mean you know i guess when the field narrows when it's down to two people if we finally start getting some actual plans you know it's a good question i honestly don't know i mean you could be a t.v. ad election we see so many of those i mean i think he's questions we'll start getting after i think there are some other topics in the debate happened we. the gardasil stuff that happened this time around that actually are being asked of my butt bachmann more now than before but i do think that she's you know this one line to get her think it's i think it's interesting that h.p.v.
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probably got more times than jobs last night on the debate you know that's a tea party message framing that people ask a lot about sort of maybe more esoteric if you mention the top of the show some stuff we don't hear a lot about which is what you know that's important executive order one of those senators that everybody didn't even let ron paul answer a question about the federal reserve which is total b.s. and that's what education didn't get mentioned i mean a lot of big big topics didn't get mentioned in favor of sort of more tea party stuff like this gardasil thing ok well i was speaking you said the gardasil thing became a really big issue and a big point of contention of course and rick perry was being called out and then he had kind of an interesting response to say. this. the company was merck and it was a five thousand dollars contribution that i had received from them i raise about thirty million dollars if you're saying that i can be bought for five thousand. i'm offended. as he had made in that he can be barred so you know i'm just
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so terry is that how much does it take to buy rick perry it's more like thirty thousand and it's also a former chief of staff that was the yellow yes well i mean you know there's a lot of stuff that you know there's some big connections there between those two things i dislike that same thing nobody called about it because i guess every other republican candidate out there it can be bought and nobody wants to call him out and say we're just exactly how much does it cost to get you know right well i'm not sure they would say they could be bought but i do think that it's sort of this is a hit on perry that sort of a weakness for him but he's sort of trying to get rid of it by saying this stuff about you know i made the wrong decision making this order and i should have done it but the attack on him is actually more about the morals of what he did and then obviously michele bachmann said this crazy thing about how the the medicine might cause remember retardation among people which has been widely criticized across the internet today so actually that's the actual attack it's not it's it's less about the even though they want to make it about the sort of crony capitalist stuff it's really more about the morals of the way they're getting whether the government
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mandates something like that on you know it's because they're going to talk about morals that are something that i've noticed in the last two debates and we're actually going to show clips and it's the things. and these republican debates here or let's take a look we have one example from last night and one from the previous as well. you saying society should just let him. know. your state is executed two hundred thirty four just row inmates more than any other governor in modern times have you. who are these people or you know what's happened in this country why is it ok to cheer for a governor that has executed more people it is time than any other governor got me on record or for ron paul talking about the fact that someone's insured we should just let them die at that hospital i don't get a cheer for that one to be sure ron paul didn't say that he would let somebody die he said no i would like when i reach the right here and you know so let's just make
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sure we're not saying ron paul would do that you know or the idea that it doesn't work that you know these tea party crowds and the sort of conservative crowd we have in their public and party right now they're extremely extremely conservative and they like things like this sort of idea of this texas justice you know they sort of think the more executions probably the better whether or not i mean we did a lot of questions about whether or not there was a or actually all guilty people or not you know beyond the general questions of the execution but that's probably one of things i think in this thing about the let them die you know this is kind of the libertarian influence on the g.o.p. these days we were terri and like to talk about theory and in theory this is sort of fit libertarian dogma the idea is that you don't have the government involved you make your own choices and then you suffer your own consequences so you know i think it's sort of like the chickens that their public and party has kind of gathered around themselves when elections are coming home to roost as i do you think that this debate last night showed us that there is actually a difference between the tea party and the regular republican party when did you notice the difference between the tea party debate and just any of the other g.o.p.
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presidential debates it was all the same issues if you ask me well and it's a good point of view on the cheering i mean i think it's a hard it's a blurry line these days i mean this is what mitt romney's problem is he's trying to at the one hand say i'm not a tea party or the other hand say you know i believe what they believe it's hard if you're republican right now to decide what you are looking for you so we're going to forget what's in it they're all just saying the tea party i guess this list a little bit more of a response they like the flashing cameras and. i think so much for joining us for thank you. well still ahead tonight we have new details about the impact of the latest unredacted state department cables that were released on my divine information it really put anyone dangers on the plane out of poverty crisis in the us a shocking new figures out today to look at the.
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our short while back we reported to you the latest information from wiki leaks thousands of unredacted diplomatic cables contain the names of several u.s. sources out in the open for everyone to see and that moved through a lot of criticism from governments around the world including the obama administration u.s. state department spokeswoman victoria nuland declared this move irresponsible reckless and frankly dangerous but after the associated press conducted its own review they found that no sources were threatened as the u.s. government claims now we should note here the a.p. review did manage their investigation based on the sources of the state department deemed it to be of the greatest risk to the investigation and look into every single source and they've left it up to each country's embassy to decide for themselves who actually faces any danger because of those leaks but let's take a look at the criteria that the state department uses to identify what's considered a sensitive source it's anybody who is part of a totalitarian society or failed state who could be imprisoned or anyone who might
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lose their job or suffer major embarrassment because of leaks information and the u.s. government argues that even leakers who are only sharing friendly information still offering candid insight to sensitive topics and restricted information this type of argument over whether or not to leak data is truly that sensitive in nature and the a.p. also has found several people whose personal information was leaked in those unredacted cables and they also took a pretty passive view on weekly leaks revealing their sources for example frederica bravos meeting with american diplomats in rome seven years ago that provided details on iran's nuclear standoff however she doesn't feel about threaten their names out there and in fact she said that she thinks people should be aware she said there is nothing that we said that was not known to our bosses for our ministers to our heads of state we didn't ask there's nothing to protect so it does look like reeky leaks is in the clear when it comes to accusations that they've put people in danger of course doesn't answer questions about we can leaks own sources
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the leakers many are still arguing that this is going to discourage sources from sharing secret information from wiki leaks in the future but as for taking heat from the u.s. government about exposing sensitive sources and putting lives at risk at this point in time that claim does not hold up. now if you need any more proof that the recovery isn't doing anything for a large swath of americans take a look at these staggering figures that were released today from the census bureau relating to poverty data and two thousand and ten an additional two point six million people slip below the poverty line that makes the overall number of people living in poverty in the us i watching forty six point two million and that by the way is fifteen point one percent of the country that's also the highest number in the fifty two years of the census bureau has been tracking this now for asking what actually counts is poverty where the line in two thousand and ten was drawn at twenty two thousand one hundred and thirteen dollars for a family of four the add to that more evidence of the middle class is shrinking as
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real median household incomes declined by two point three percent in china ten to forty nine thousand and four hundred dollars and you'll see what citi group analyst has labeled as an hourglass economy so what do you make of all the specifics and what does it mean for the future joining me to discuss this is christopher chambers like church georgetown university and author of the blog a natural reserve bank chris thanks so much for joining us tonight these are this is this is bad news obviously the america has an increasing lower class more people are in poverty more than forty six million of them but if we look at society today if we look at our political culture there is a lot of legislation that's being discussed about reducing our deficit it's about creating jobs supposedly do you see anything that actually is going to tackle poverty i do lou i don't think so because we hope you have a congress particularly republicans who are trying to rude not only the city if you know we're used to basically not need to say you know it it was president who still trying to find his way in a pro.
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