tree. to. tree. where did it take. welcome back you're watching r t live from moscow a reminder of the top stories fresh occupy protests flare up ride across the u.s. as disgruntled activists target boards and trade hobbs in an effort to hamper a financial giant goldman sachs that as police continue a relentless crackdown on the movement's activities. taking the plunge again russia's third richest man announces his second attempt to and her politics by running for president. and as brock obama celebrates the end of the iraq occupation of rocky's point to the devastated infrastructure and unstable

government american troops are leaving behind. ranjit saying ha ha was any is a bastard to iraq in the one nine hundred ninety s. and he's analysis of the u.s. troop withdrawal from iraq is simple washington will still try to control the country's rich oil reserves are just british writer caught up with him in new delhi . president obama has announced the united states will definitively end the war in iraq at the end of this month but as the united states attempts to get the military personnel and contractors out of the country questions still remain about the implications of this decision for security in the region joining me to help discuss this is the former indian ambassador to iraq and the author of the book the ultimate prize saying kala thing so much for joining me first of all i want to ask

you about the recent terrorist attacks in iraq obviously there have been quite a few in the past few years and they've claimed hundreds of iraqi citizens lives do you think there is still a role for the united states in iraq when the americans walked in this good not to have done anything but to introduce some semblance of democracy otherwise what was the reason the going in and once they. decided to introduce some semblance of the motor city it was going to be a shiite led government. and because it was a government that has very strong links with its. religious in iran. and therefore the main aim which i should say was sure that the oil the oil wealth the means available would be in jeopardy and i think that is basically the president if you withdraw from iraq completely

you leave this asked. in the hands of a shiite led government which very close links with iran and therefore it upsets the political balance as far as the middle east is concerned so to that extent. to counter this the americans have now for. withdrawing the troops but at the same time strengthening their position in iraq now the u.s. embassy in iraq is going to be about almost twenty thousand strong it's going to have numerous. offices like training training of troops etc who will be what they call basically americans who would be basically military men but working for the u.s. embassy similarly there will be a consulate in basra they will be a consulate in. good cook they will be a consulate or not and each one of these gauntlets is about

a thousand strong it will perhaps be the largest u.s. embassy anywhere in the world i mean normal embassies are usually between thirty to forty maybe if it's a very big embassy perhaps one hundred strong but twenty thousand strong it means that they're going to be lots of other people who are going to be still in iraq now the reason why i say this is that big cannot afford to be completely absent from iraq. and therefore. what should i say while agreeing to withdraw troops as per the agreement they are in no way coming back varying civilian clothes and in fact i don't see any lessening of american influence as far as iraq is concerned. and you sort of just spoke about these sectarian issues within iraq one and if the united states technically leaves the country how do you think the iraqi government will be able to stop these sectarian divisions into becoming

a full fledged civil war it's going to be extremely difficult because if you see the communities of iraq as they existed most of the military in the u.s. invasion iraq was sunni dominated most of the officers were sunni. the shirts were basically foot soldiers they had more basic military training as such and therefore because it was a similar government they were able to keep them in check it was basically by force alarms that people were kept what we call in check and of course the strong arm methods of. the who has been there whether it was or even earlier most of them were using very tough methods to keep. the population in check now whether the new government that is the shiite led government will be able to equally dick strong on message. control be what they called situation is

a bit doubtful because frankly i don't think they have the experience to be able to run a country like iraq and therefore they're going to be for see sectarian violence perhaps may not be of the scale that it is no but may have little more than what is presently going on and you mentioned the united states troops going to crawl way how do you think the arab gulf countries are going to react to that are they going to welcome the americans i don't think so because i don't see i don't see this. actually i think it's a just the shuffle of the cards so as to speak because the americans not going very far they're just going to quit which is next door and you can always come back. because the bases will be kept intact and as i mentioned with a twenty thousand strong u.s. embassy most of the staff etc will always be there and secondly they have made sure that there is no law iraqi air force in fact you find that there is hardly perhaps

not even less than they don't even have five planes to fly around so they don't control the airspace the airspace over to be controlled by the americans. which means that you can reinforce at will whenever you want however you want and you can also prevent anybody is from coming in perhaps even if the the iranians were to decide the american air force would be available make sure that they don't cross over so i don't see i don't consider this an american withdrawal i think it's just a reshuffling of the pack and what about iran do you think iran could potentially be ready to fell some sort of void if the united states leaves iraq well that is always a possibility because the iran iraq border is very porous it's very difficult to police the entire border it's a very long border and. in many areas you find of course the mountains then there's the bed of the plains and there is the river the

shuttle which is the boundary between iran and iraq and then most of the tribesmen living on the iranian side are also arabs. and there too so there is a lot of doing for going across the border and it is intimidation and it is also. a lot of sort of illicit trade which goes on across the border so as far as the iranians wanting to intervene or to create problems in iraq that is always a possibility and don't forget in the past it was the iranians who used to provide arms to the kurds to create problems for saddam hussein and it won't be the first time and proper probably not the last time either when they would do so obviously you know president obama also has announced that he's going to pull the troops out of afghanistan we're about to enter an election year how much of pulling out troops

from iraq and afghanistan do you think is part of for domestic consumption by the americans when obviously he has to meet deadlines which have been set by himself i mean in the u.s. administration have set the deadlines themselves and as i mentioned in the case of iraq it's basically the shuffling of the pack i mean you give it another name you change it around call them what you like but as far as advanced on is concerned perhaps a similar kind of started you may be followed where you may be able to withdraw u.s. may be able to withdraw troops from afghanistan but leave a very strong component behind perhaps in the form of civilian advisors military advisers and training teams except who may not be taking part in combat. role but they can certainly act as an advisory role to the new afghan army as in many develops but many cases i think that's a little. let's see because i don't think it's going to be

a decision is going to be taken so quickly and the united states has spent so much money in iraq three trillion dollars what do you think the americans can gain from . everything that happened there i've always believed anybody who lived in iraq as i have lived in iraq that. nobody goes there for tourism it's a complete. a country which is hot it's fifty degrees centigrade most of the time flies that. there's nothing to see except plain does what do you therefore for your own obviously otherwise why would anybody spend a trillion dollars to go lose about forty five thousand two thousand what for and the reason is the oil in iraq is. and second it's a very high quality very high grade you don't need to find very much to some for

content is very low and just below the surface costs a dollar to think about a dollar and a half to three years or a lot and therefore anybody who has access to the. can be. a game changer as far as the politics of oil is concerned and i think that's precisely why the americans are there and how do you think the united states pulling out of afghanistan is going to affect india well obviously it's in our neighborhood it's going to stand is in the neighborhood of course it makes a difference because naturally be people who are indulging in terrorism will be encouraged that they've been able to force an american withdrawal now it all depends on how this vidor takes place does it declares because of a defeat does it take place because the united states gets. byard of. understand does it take place because of very strong domestic compulsions or does it take place as a result of an agreement it really depends on how the draw takes place my guess is

that if it takes place as a result of an agreement perhaps it can be done gradually may not be done completely in the sense of a complete withdrawal one be made gore would have putative time and i think that perhaps is the best case scenario all it'll definitely be interesting to see how president obama polls the troops out of iraq if that happens and what the implications of it are going to be i want to thank you so much for your time thank you.

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fresh occupy broaches flare off right across the u.s. as disgruntled activists target pores and trade hobbs in an effort to hamper financial giant goldman sachs that as police continue a relentless reggae out on the movement's activities. taking the plunge again russia's third richest man announces his second attempt to enter politics by running for president. and has brought obama celebrates the end of the rocket these new rocky point to the devastated infrastructure and unstable government american troops are leaving behind. me back at the top of the hour with more updates in the

meantime here's richard with the sports news. hello welcome to sports day it's great to have you with us as always with the headlines. road to recovery look how much we've got to slow also ice hockey team trying to buy one of those games tend to claim crash which killed their entire squad. the citizens come on strong amongst the city handed their first league defeat of the season for those among the cheese sidelines to want to chelsea. back in training fresh from saturday's old classic zero victory over real madrid barcelona that preparations for club world cup in japan. all game will begin with ice hockey as a look on the t.v. at a slow will produce a comprehensive five one home victory in the first competitive game just forty

months after the plane crash which wiped out their entire squad forty three people died after the plane burst into flames as it crashed into the banks of the boulder river near on september seventh and among them a thirty six players and coaching staff from looking mighty well since the tragedy other teams have donated players to the club to help it stay in existence and the crews fifty five one in front of the semis home crowd will munch was a v.h.d.l. encountered the vision below the top two k j l club took the decision to drop down a level to live their new team time to gel. football and the english premier league leaders manchester city south of their first defeat of the season has been a went down to want to chelsea the visitors who are looking to extend their leave. five points in the words of rivals manchester united and they got off to

a perfect start money or voluntarily scoring just two minutes to put. the munchies man in front of over level eleven minutes before half time but it is falling powerfully pollens joe hard to restore parity the game looked destined to end one's one but sudden minutes from the time from long part of the penalty spot to get the blues all three points to chelsea within seven points of city state top. meanwhile just two days after beating arch rivals real madrid forty one classic zero european champions barcelona preparing for the semifinal of a club world cup in japan. opening match against the club on thursday they didn't waste any time getting their first taste of the local training grounds and yokohama coach pep guardiola wants his players to relax and then regain their focus at the game against creation champions so he'll take his charges on a tour around the city for putting them through their paces once again barcelona

one year in the tournament back in two thousand and nine anything but reclaiming the violent side so well because it has a big blow. the match against real madrid was a good one we were very satisfied with the quality of that game but we're always looking ahead to the future you could post to come into this computer we've had a very tough time and we would like to make the best of the super tootie and run to the top. to get brazilian player of the year neymar as a lavish praise both barcelona i understand striker see a nineteen year old forward is hoping to play against a club he considers to be the best in the world title decider before back to his son's all's fair play today against local. players saw in the semifinals on wednesday the south american champions are at a training session and i go your head about game.

marshall and of the best club in the world if i have the opportunity to play the male be very happy and we'll certainly try to win the game to be compared with missy makes me very proud and i'm very pleased to have this comparison. but the more real madrid are back in action on choose means they play the side. of a couple though there was no money aside for their fifteen game winning streak slams on saturday by bitter rivals barcelona. first league defeat of a season three one defeat. on the porch of these is determined to get his side back to winning ways saying motivation won't be a problem as over this and more confident mood. just boys. that i would like their one or to have my name be said that to me given us one of the most successful managers at the biggest club in history. nice to be the best

don't we give them years and shows them we knew the two highest achievers in real madrid history fifteen victories champions league record leader of championships with barcelona but if we get to a point on saturday we will be a cylinder and you're asking about motivation please come on. world cup winning coach. is spending russian side on she reports suggest a formidable paula and one manager has ended talks with the dagestan club a fifty one year old spaniard they didn't club glory in just last year told them and in which m g star striker something was named best player and she sang trainer i got to go to you in september. in the meantime spain manager jim develop has been named the best national coach of the year award comes from the international federation of football history and statistics the sixty year old led

the red fury to their maiden world cup glory last year and hopes are high back in spain. or help them retain their european title in poland new crane next summer. it's going to build up there more than we can complain about the results in our competitive games and we have largely accomplished that and it's true we had had some setbacks we have to see some very strong growth but we have managed to cope with the expectations a little time to prepare for the euro two thousand you twelve we have only one word game and the twenty ninth of february because the league and the local competitions are weary and turns and there is also the champions and we didn't know the players get on and we have a good beat the fundamentals are in place and everything will be there to do your. russian cycling team have reached an agreement to slime one of the country's best road riders didn't mean short of a thirty four year old is expected to put pen to paper on wednesday but he's already joined the team for

a training camp in italy to prepare for competition next season when sean is a double spanish champion all round cyclists also won that year of autonomy in two thousand and nine and came third overall at last is the france could you shows a sign free time formal world champion also fear of spain in october. rugby great jonny wilkinson has announced his international retirement bringing to an end and the lustrous thirteen year career on the high points of his state international side came eight years ago as his drop goal won the two thousand and three world count for england against australia following that triumph came years of injury turmoil both did well to return to the highest level and help this country reach another world cup final four years later the thirty two year old will still carry on playing for his club side so long. off the months of uncertainty of a new n.b.a.

season will finally get underway on the twenty fifth december the miami heat will be looking to get back to court more than most and try to make out for the disappointment of losing last year's playoff final and miami open trade. on monday is to win basketball's biggest prize and the same world be certainly raring to go after last year's failure what is the point hosting a star studded squad including the likes of aunt jane's the wayne wade and chris bosh he failed to win the n.b.a. championship for the first time since two thousand and six when they of course were beaten four two in the final by the dallas mavericks however their head coach says there's plenty of his team can build on going into the new season. there's been so much talk about last year being an absolute epic failure for us now we don't view it that way but that's part of this journey sometimes sometimes things frankly as much as you don't want to admit it sometimes they just don't go your way it doesn't

mean we want committed doesn't mean that that wasn't our goal we have another shot at it this year and that's what we're committed to doing is give ourselves a chance there at the end and to do that we've got to start now the only thing we can control that is now. and when this day but it's a different film and come into this year honestly you know for me personally i'm more live. more be back to myself for one moment i'm excited i mean i have two months off you know my work and being used to be back in in a season two months ago i was excited. ok i mean what i can and maybe a former formula one world champion however it seems the fame hasn't quite got to grips with driving a snowmobile just yet it's thirty two year old recently joined lotus renner who sustained a wrist injury to crashing his snowmobile at a pro celebrity race in austria finn is returning to f one after two years of

competing in the world rally championship was quick to dispel any rumors looking up a major injury on twitter there's nothing to worry about it's absolutely fine the main events was one. team which took the checkered flag head of the defending champions. racing team but as two thousand and seven f one world champion says the main goal of events is just to have fun. i mean is that me here is that it is fun but it. is very. funny that's the main. program of the day more sport coming up in just under two hours time but stay tuned swati the weather is coming up next.

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