in the demonstrations they were actually surprised how by how placid those demonstrations were on the palestinian side but i also have to know that there have been reports of some young men bringing knives and fans cutters to the demonstrations there were also reports of calls over the loudspeakers to burst through these fans and. i just wonder what do you think would be the proportionate reaction from their israeli side to those kind of actions let's say that people who cross the line ok which by the way there is no line because israel did not define it. but you know there's a fence there and there's israeli soldiers guarding that fence the fence is self-imposed self created israel has not declared its borders yet that's the question but when we saw that if it is coming from the middle east towards europe tens of thousands did you hear of any people being killed in russia or all around or in germany or in france or in britain. across the line you can analyze them

you can iris them you don't have to open gunfire and we have pictures of israeli soldiers killing our kids and our boys and girls and then celebrating grabbing. happiness these are war crimes these are murderers. i cannot accept any pretext other than saying that they defend him how can they defend themselves to the pretext of such massacres i think the message is very clear i think the message is telling palestinians we're here to stay as you're occupiers we're going to block it we're going to continue our control in the west bank we're going to continue our settlements we have the full support of this american administration that romber administration which is really throwing the whole world toward chaos and lawlessness and axiom ism and its actions and then those nations where there are one hundred ninety four nations on earth not a single nation without

a problem in its social demographic fabric or jew graphic fabric so if we're going to go on the backs of lawlessness that is pursuing the result will be chaos lawlessness the rule of the jungle violence and counter-violence and bloodshed and extremism is that what we want is that what europe want what russia wants what china wants mr arafat this is obviously not what we want but unfortunately the world has allowing has been allowing this for for a number of years if not decades already let me ask you one very specific question on the on may fourteenth advance because the protests in on the gaza border let's call it border around the gaza fans had been ongoing for more than a month today there were victims and casualties before dozens of people killed and yet. the majority of the casualties occurred on that specific day of israel's founding and the opening of these really of the american embassy

interestingly do you find these fact that the majority of casualties occurred on may fourteenth a tragic sad coincidence or do you think that these really army was tasked with being more forceful with using lie fire on that specific occasion. well exactly and the palestinians present from cam there is a fire and then he poured fuel on the fire the americans and instead of being the firemen they became the arsonists and that's the meaning of the opening of the embassy and is the resentments like establishing a new settlement outposts and occupied territories and then the message from israel ok we have the united states here and look at what we're doing we're massacring palestinians and then in the united nations there are two israeli ambassadors one them down and one them daily and we will blame the palestinians will blame the

palestinians will explode fear and so on and i don't think that the international community has any on and therefore had things to bid because the lack of reaction of the international community it is a little interest is that it will assist to the stability and security of all nations seem a bloodbath will bring will breed blood violence will breed violence this position little disparate apps and what israel is doing now and destroying a palestinian life social life economic life making people hopeless what will they be creating i'm a father of four a grandfather of seven i don't want them to be suicide bombers i want them to be like your children russia like their children and treat them like the children and then as this i want them to be normal people with such massacres would show up with such a crimes and as well getting away with it what you're doing is totally. behaving

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back to worlds apart with save america secretary general of the palestine liberation organization mr erakat there is some effort on the part of the former u.s. administration the obama administration to try to convince its european allies to centrally hold on for a few years until trump is voted out of office you know they say dear that one day in ramallah it's you will have returned i wonder if that is the perspective that you take as well that this current american predisposition which is clearly harmful

and unfair to your cause that it is only temporary well look we we had meetings with the trauma administration and two thousand and seventeen thirty five times drilling for some months between our president and president trump and i held personally thirty one of our meetings with them as negotiations we give them every possible chance with their decision and declaring there's a rhetoric out of israel be disqualified themselves from any role in the peace process we will not sit with them they're not partners they're not only biased the adopting there is really blue dictation and not negotiations and you know once franklin d. roosevelt said the office of the white house is an office of international morality an office of international morality needs john statesman not real estate agents this administration cannot be a partner and of course we our only option is to stay on this land and to be in this land today between that of a jordan and the military and we are the majority as palestinian arabs group bustin

and christian and muslim arabs we're fifty point nine percent jews are forty nine point one percent what are they going to do with us. other than creating extremism and then you know when violence spreads and people are being killed and what sides then israel will say oh these people have it in their d.n.a. and they're terrorists and so on i have devoted twenty five years of my life in negotiations with israel to save lives resample athenians to live and let live we have who denies there's a right to exist we have accepted a palestinian state with his recent us capital to live side by side in peace and security with a set of us around the one hundred seven lines. what did is a good return more settlements more dictations more killing more murders more siege more closures more collective punishment on demolish and all these all these actions are being done in two thousand and eighteen by a member of the u.n. and they call it the only democracy in the world this is it's fascism and it never

in the history of south africa darkest hours of apartheid where blacks prevented to use roads what we're using to there are in the west bank and east jerusalem roads we cannot use us palestinians and such diseases as bigotry and racism once in inflict only underneath our skins of any kind of any risk for any religion we had it in this is a justify it sometimes we give sociological psychological economic sexual explanations and now israel is using the pretext security to justify its apartheid system being created and those bank is tourism and the gaza strip and this must stop and this we will stand up we will not depart this is our land and we will defend ourselves mr erekat let me ask you one more question i know that the you believe the trance announcement and his decision to move the american embassy to jerusalem was essentially the end of the two state solution that's at least what you said on record and i also heard you say that trans decision will force the

palestinians to strive for quote unquote historic palestine from the jordan river to the mediterranean sea which is another way of saying that you too not only reject the two state solution but you actually don't recognize israel's right to exist on those territories i understand the emotions behind that statement i understand that but do you think it can bring your people any good in practical terms look what i said i said i said our only option our option is a two state solution our option is to live and let live our option is for the state of israel which will be nice on the ninety six seven lines to live side by side in peace and security of the state of palestine that's what we said now israel. the nutter who as a person instead refused to stop settlements and so on so we're left with two options if israel is destroying the two state solution and benjamin netanyahu personally is in office for the last nine years destroying that was state solution and now to camp to hold them in order to be a two state solution we're left with two options one is needed now is option one

step two systems up our side this will not be accepted to us the second option is one step equal rights for jews muslims and christians to live together that's a very civilized solution but the israelis will never accept it. so it was a listed as a two state solution and of the option of a third is not doable for the palestinians and of the option of one state it was not the will for the israelis what will this leave palestinians and israelis with i think the this narrative of historic palestine is definitely becoming more popular among the palestinian officials just the other day mahmoud abbas said that palestine is for the palestinians it is not as the jews claim the land of their ancestors so he does seem to be questioning israel's right to exist on those lands and i wonder if that does not make it easier for israel to paint you as anti semitic rejectionists president mahmoud abbas went to the security council in february twentieth two thousand and eighteen and his speech last week of the

palestine national council reiterated our commitment to the two state solution where the state of palestine where these duracell limits its capital will live side by side in peace and security with the state of israel and he called for an international conference and he was willing to come to moscow about then with a shot president putin to meet with with prime minister netanyahu and prime minister netanyahu refused then with asian present put in place not once or twice and accepted we are with a two state solution with organized israel and israel did not recognize us since one thousand eight hundred we have accepted resolutions two for two and three is rare and organizer and since one thousand eight hundred israel has done nothing but to dictate settlements on the land that's obviously a palestinian state that's the reality that's a reality we never abandon that was their solution that's a two state solution as our line is our vision is to live and let live because we know that we realists this is the only way for palestinians and israelis is to have

two states to live side by side in peace and security next to each other. now who's destroying the two state solution who's building settlements in the supposed to be a palestinian state on the hour every hour who's the dating letter to jerusalem other than from bennett and you know who is doing the collective punishment and military means can you solve the political problem with military means you can't you can't so all these things our position is that we have to win as israel and the stance israel refuses the two state solution present never mentioned two states he mentioned in the context that if both parties agree the giver of it or tenet and now they did the administration's of the not steps in six seven considered is derosa them as a territory now they said we'll have nice jerusalem as defined by the government of israel that means they have abandoned their line that is there was a remark about it. so what do you do in such guess i think i think this region is being thrown to the hands of extremists i think moderates are being destroyed and i

think this is their intention their strategy so they can say israel can say oh we're the only democracy we had we don't we don't we want peace but we're going to have a partner for peace and nobody will ask them but you had a partner for peace would have ignited you since one thousand area and then a bush ended with you for twenty five years and you would not move one inch to announce that you accept that was that solution or you want to who knows the palestinian state or stop settlements or stop the collective punishment mr erekat we've talked about israel and the united states but i think it's also evident that one of your former strong backers in the arab world saudi arabia is also. well is no longer there for you if i may put it that way i'm sure you've heard about this leaked conversation of the crown prince saudi crown prince.