is that isn't happy to advise you as a wooden jaws of what's a basically, i'm nothing more than that. it's a place where it's economic involved, basically global economies, basically to be at least of miles of sol, solved minerals of supply of crude oil and a supply of cash crops. and they may be supply of cheap to my labor as well. i'm nothing more usaid or usa i day is popping up in the news for all the wrong reasons, from funding regime change and creating the main stream liberal narratives world wide by literally paying all thousands of john list and on and on. so former us state department official, laurens wilkinson, that talks about how the agency transformed over the decades, the latest episode of going on the ground. how did this become such a front for the c i a well the full episode is there an old a year and i'll tell you, but right now, it's a teaser, as i watch the transition and transform ation in u. s. a. it when for an organization of fundamentally, bureaucrats civil service and foreign service running development programs in

various countries in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be a few of those people. very few of those people managing a horde of private contractors. and that's the u. s. 8 of today. there are very few people outside the government, cent is or who know what the united states is doing in places like georgia, where it is now trying to over 0. the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous old on power and wants to maintain a balance between nato in one direction in moscow and the other. they're trying to over throw that government. they're working on college or jessica who in romania so he won't get elected. they're trying to cast the election against him. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want

more l as in doing that, particularly georgia and romania, and anybody else smoke global that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. there was a new arm of the sea. i very sophisticated armor the ca, sometimes they know they are others and, and there have been objections from time to time for them. professionals within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because they've been infiltrated. and sometimes they don't even have to be humans themselves, right? it's just the policies and the money themselves rights and the objectives that blow their from. and so they become an arm of the c i, the one that is a rep for now. here with all the international, those task you attended will be here soon with more of your news. but of course, without the twisted legacy media narrative by for a month ago, it's on the, the,

i'm actually understand, see, and welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. in the heart of, i'm at least stunned into understanding what is reading the usa of long had in store for palestine wheel. donald trump's national security advisor, mike will be fine. does he already be inside? saudi arabia was swift to attack transplant to ethnically cleanse guys, even though it was in the middle of the night. saturday time when the us president sitting beside israel, is netanyahu. so to defacto destabilize, egypt and jordan with millions of refugees as expected vessel states in europe and no sovereignty were muted by trumps erroneous claim, that saudi arabia no longer thinks about the city and state also and good china, russia. and they to remember tech a, this is trump facilitated ukraine bombing of russia, bones, somalia, and signed in order to approve bombing iran. well that in a week that i'll be so

a trump operating the c i a, and shelving the globally destructive u. s. a. i the agency that he, a veteran kind of learns wilkerson is in full of students, virginia. he was chief of staff with the us state department, know that by mach rubio, when nato power has invaded the rock. kind of thank so much for coming on right off the top. i suppose. i better ask you despite all the relief about usa id, what you thought of that press conference in the white house with the alleged wall criminal netanyahu. the trump gave way outlined, possible ethnic cleansing route for gaza. frankly, i didn't think that i could be in the future, started to buy anything, but look, curio bombastic character donald trump said, but i was, this is, this is just such a flagrant violation of the read space to order if you will, that we fashion, particularly the international law, part of it,

there's just stunning, absolutely starting. i think this special effort to her albany said it correctly. if you wanted to break every law possible to be broken, he did take step while you ins measure up or to or i'll give you a fail to create to cease fire. and i know i get criticized with the left as if i'm some trump supports it. yeah. it was trump that allowed the children of guys are to sleep for the 1st time up to 15 months with that aerial bombardment. i mean, it's the genocide and of course some people to kindly looking on this as saying now is real cars start up the bombing image, these different processes of the ceasefire agreement because it's the united states land now was this wasn't a humanitarian gesture by drawing this was strictly transactional, could go to the jared cosigner dream of a gaza with hotels drop hotels, probably, and other assets the trump likes featured on the mediterranean sea. this has

nothing to do with humanitarian instincts or empathy or seem to be human. and now we're seeing the reality of it. i think the reality of it, however, is the military professional. i have to tell you is not only reasonable, it's extremely dangerous as well if it really was jared questionnaire and a bank of trump's idea. as you imply, there it is reasonable because there's no way i mean you might have to remind or what he is. what exactly he said as regards we even allowed us troops on the ground to god this perhaps future trump hotel projects in gaza. but while saying that the 2000000 people in guys of which somehow became 1.81.6000000, i don't know whether that was an admission that off a 1000000 to being wiped out by british american european union on bombing over the past 15 months. to some of the us troops a going on the ground there. um i go back to colon barrel statement to me on

a number of occasions throughout about a decade period. putting us forces on the ground in the law and a serious for portion that is to say, not just did air force spaces and pass through facilities as we're having to wait. but on a serious basis, war fighting capable basis would be the greatest mistake the united states could make with regard to the bar and possibly with regard to its global position period . on powers, right? you do not, and h w bush actually said there's 2 in the presence of his then sector defense. richard cheney, you do not sought me into that calls or will not put us forces on the ground there to stay because all they will be is a disaster waiting to happen. yeah, so i mean, yeah, they would also cost trillions of dollars and it's all going to happen then. and so some other,

the other huge question. huge question. read dexter phil cans just released article in the new yorker magazine. a huge question. where is he going to get these american troops? he's already given northern command, a warning order to seal the southern border. given 3 army divisions, at least for gauge of 2 and a whole division was at the mountain orders to go to the southern border. those troops could only cover maybe a 100 kilometers that of that border. there's 3150 kilometers. is that border? where is he going to get these american soldiers? we don't have a draft. we have a volunteer force. it's falling apart, even as i speak is the extra tokens article points out graphically. whereas you're going to get these forces. is it going to hire private contractors like i understand right now, and i have video freeze of it apparently from a person who is walking along with the palestinians. who are you for it?

even though they were passing through the nazareth border in the devastation into a more skate they were you for it about going home and on their flags were american hired security contractors, making sure the israelis didn't take advantage of that passage and kill even thousands more. so where are we going to get these 4? so you go to higher, higher airy prince and a bunch of private contractors. this is a disaster waiting to happen and dollars by actually doing it from the oval office . but haven't you onto yourself? you said these transactional, it called happened, the troops aren't going to be that guiding you. the trump investments that the american people want to go for that. so if it is transactional, it will be with the wrong information being provided to him from like waltz perhaps because as you say that he understand. i mean when he go do the mike walks is going when he realizes the, well, it's presumably is the guy telling him saudi arabia or it's fine with no

palestinian state. i mean, it was very, very late. the release time for the far enough as the problem. what are the saudi arabians going, what are you talking about? basically an immediate response to this outrage all around here. and uh well, it's presumably telling him the palestinians. they don't want to return, they shouldn't return. when it was hundreds of thousands have being returning over the past few days to know them guys, it's all wrong. information is being fed. the world is on the street this morning early about 7 am. the vaults has gone. i don't know if that's accurate, that that's the word on the street. what that is or the end date. there's a history of a national security advisers going quickly. we had john bolton on the other week, of course, and hope to get my clear and who was the 1st one. so that should hopefully signal that trump react very quickly to when he's being made a fool out of i would think so i said earlier,

right after the election that there wouldn't be a single one. if they did pass, go with the senate and, and get confirmed, there wouldn't be a single one that is major cabinet. the point days are reasonable facsimile, sex tax, emily's that are all there. last is not much at all the go. that's donald trump, at least. so he said that ron was not a, in a week position. some of that i'm planning to buy administrator. and for that on like what say, lindsey graham and bizarre of people in your congress is talk about when they, with respect to around and the, the possibility of an invasion you're on is just sign that russia deal. you know, with just showed a military cooperation with iran has been showing of new weaponry that at least looks off the table. it's just going to be greater way to sanctions. although trump obviously hasn't been told about bricks and then say where i'm talking to you from the you a is now part of a system, a new new grouping where they run. i think that's one thing that i would say is

fairly assured in my mind, at least a trump is a gaze, is a us use of force force real force against the wrong. i'm taking out an occasion or on his he did with the r g c. is one thing, but taking on our honors quite another i think he's been given the full breezing by different people or different types from the pentagon on how desperate the circumstance that would great in the united states. not just because we're so woefully short of people in our military, but also because our industrial base is woefully inadequate. we've taken some measures to remedy that, but it's going to take a while is going to take a couple of years before we even begin to get going on that. so we don't need to be taking on any more substantial commitments and iran would be a very substantial commitment. 10 years, 2 or 3 trillion dollars, lots of troops of construction process a draft. in other words,

and many young people in america go into canada and mexico, who will be the president has been said by net and yeah, well, you believe it, you actually just in the highlighted place, making uninhabitable rather than actually occupying, you know, taking it over. and trump talks about maximum streams using the phrase maximum and then the to the pretty poor journalists, arguably, especially at that netanyahu press conference kind of us who will options on the table is a threatening run with aerial bombardment. as i don't think there's anything that trump won't say as a threat, but i find it very difficult to believe from past experience is 1st term for example, the fall through most of those threats. he is purely transactional. he has no entity whatsoever. and very little simplistic, but i don't think he is ignorant of the consequences of some of the more drastic actions that they didn't. even he occasionally puts forward and understands what

kind of damage it would do to him and then go to re. so i don't think he's going to do anything egregious and that for are too many people around him to at least tell him that he's naked on a bob say some of these things. so i just don't think he's got to do something like that. i don't think he likes war at all and i don't think he understands what he's saying. sometimes when he talks about things that those of us who are at least somewhat schooled in it know will probably lead to war, will lead to more p simply. doesn't believe that until someone sits down with him, with some temerity and courage intentionally. as the pentagon has done repeatedly about or with the wrong, so he's not netanyahu's poodle memory modeled since poodle as well as the yahoo is fire tv. i think i've said there's a number of times i think mirror sha, i'm, or mall are wrong in terms of a pack and it's an influence. there's no question that the jewish lobby has

influence and significantly on the congress. but israel is our poodle. they are doing precisely at various times what we want them to do and have been doing that since 1948. when they started out, there's the british poodles to do that. reading got a file of the united states fairly quickly. we took over. it's in very rare and ever since then with increasing frequency and bloodthirsty news, israel has been doing our job in the law. and isn't that the point though, that it's so refreshing to have a person like donald trump in the white house, who says it how, how it is rather than was using wiki leaks to release a memo of blinking? no, jake sullivan. the previous national security advisor sending things to hillary clinton, telling them l. kaiser is on the side of united states. he dropped patello stump patel the american people of their tax dollars was paying all guy to or yeah, no rafters are off. the disguise is gone. donald trump is exposed very well and

i'll stop you that more from before, but chief of staff for the state department after this break the welcome back to going on the right. and i'm still here with the lords wilkerson former chief of staff in the us state department. kinda we've been talking about the refreshing nature of at least some one in the way that is being candid county can trump force egypt in jordan's hand about the w2w refugees of egypt and jordan, and previously always done with washington. have told them to can actually do that even though adults cost the stabilize both those countries a he has a lot of leverage on both cairo and a hmong more. so on cairo, i understand now this is a fairly reliable source that the egyptian military would not be paid if it were

not for the united states largest going to egypt. i'm sure that is probably even an access to the 3.6 or 3700000000. we give them routinely to bribe them to keep the base trade with visual. and for all modeling, it's probably not equivalent amounts, but it's equivalent to fact. so there's a lot of influence the united states can exercise there, but it only goes so far. i mean, you're talking about the king and i'm on, for example, losing control of these countries. if you know even a 1000000 of those 2 to plus whatever 1000000 guys in suddenly appeared in jordan and added to the already 6 or $7000000.00. he has to look after it'd be an untenable situation for him. so he's going to be forced to make a hard decision, but i suspect he will make it to balance the money with the problem. and that's not going to do anybody and you good, it'll be a half solution if you will. yeah,

king of the do in washington to meet jump on tuesday. of course. uh us a id was a big decision. see a decisions as well offering to everyone in the c ha, all around the world, the, the offer to reside and get 8 months a salary. i suppose the one i want to get onto you great in a moment. what was your immediate reaction? you might have to remind the audience of some of the agreed just things you as a ideas done over the years. because most recently the funding of vouchers, the board history in the china regarding gain a function code research. but you must have been you must have known us as a id intimately at the state department under. uh, colin powell, i certainly did. aid was under andrew not sale since that time. and i watched the transition and transform ation in u. s. a. it went for a member organization of fundamentally bureaucrats, civil service and foreign service running development programs in various countries

in the world, in accordance with us express policy. to be a few of those people. very few of those people managing a horde of private contractors. and that's the u. s. 8 of today. so frankly, if marco rubio and dollar from want to change that entirely, i would stay in the street in the blog. because what the did was turn us aide into a fountain of complicity with intelligence services and other n g o is and quite all groups quite as our government groups who's in tap either known to them or unknown to them because they were infiltrated by the c i was to overthrow government. how would you ride samantha power is a bit true. she, of course, was an administrator usa id after being ambassador in the u. n. video country. i don't think samantha power knew the half before i just said. in fact,

there are very few people outside the government incentives or who know what the united states is doing, in places like georgia, where it is now trying to over throw the georgia dream party, which has a tenuous old on power and wants to maintain a balance between nato in one direction in moscow and the other. they're trying to over throw that government. they're working on college or just school in romania so he won't get elected. they're trying to cast the election against them. so because he's threatened to take romania out of nato, this is what we're doing today all over that region. trying to recruit allies in this vicious struggle that we're behind in ukraine to bleed russia. and we want more l, as in doing that, particularly georgia and remaining a and anybody else, small boat that we can get to come into the fight with us at their peril. look at georgia, look at what didn't do the last time. we tried this with my president who went at

the blue sky and stood beside present, been president, soccer civilian, said george, you would be a member of nato in the very near future. to invite you to a cause. you and south a set you and a p still has tension or control over those. next time he'll go all the way to police, see how they were referendums there. of course, as the russian say, i think you're crediting too much ignorance to samantha power. i think on going on to grow, we've been covering usa id massively in the same vein is national endowment for democracy because you're intimating there with you as a id did in 2014 with the victorian, newland intimate and cool. but i mean, this is great, isn't it? i mean, that's really down for the walk. so you can remind or audience what these organizations to be doing is regards not democracy promotion, reducing democracy. i meanwhile, the new arm of this be the new arm of the ca, very sophisticated armor, the ca, sometimes they, you know, they are old. and there have been objections from time to time, from professionals,

within the groups. but most of the time they don't know who they are because they've been infiltrated, and sometimes they don't even have to be humans. they themselves, right? it's just the policies on the money that i'm sold rights and the objectives that blow their for all. and so they become an arm of the see, i mean, clearly folks, news and the like the total drum watch is, is concentrating on the will guide the all the g elements. but it's all vs. but when you are mosque doing open the book, he was shocked at the amount of money to the american people realize the scale of the money while their own infrastructure and bridges and basic a civilian open architecture is a corroding, understand how much money this ending overseas to destroy democracy and the stabilize countries. the majority of the american people, particularly the 77000000 that voted for donald trump and the 90000000. apparently they didn't vote at all. or what i would call with regard to the maintenance of

their country and their republic and their security ultimately brained it, uh for the debt to that. it ranges the gamut from. they don't give a damn to they haven't the knowledge nor the education to get with them. and we're in trouble because of that, we have a very, very un educated public, probably the most fun educated public in the o, e c. d. countries in the developed countries period and that contributes mildly to the ability of people like you must, jay, the vance theater deal. and peter deal now talking about taking back south africa for white people. as it contributes mightily to their ability to put things over on the american people and to do things that later when they reveal to the light of day, same absolutely mom level. but even then, the american people don't seem to have a whole lot of objections, as long as i doesn't read down personally to their inability to watch taylor swift organ nfl football game or whatever else might still like them. that's what they're

really interested in. and i'm not saying that because i'm mad at the american people, i'm saying that because it's a reality, it's a stark reality. we have not taken care of our democracy. we are now taking care of of democracy and you pay for that. you pay for that? well, trump got the popular vote incentives to be american people, but then trump also, while uh, trying to an i lady usa, i the saw the talking about the need, the get ukraine's rarer at the metals in a similar vein to real estate. in garza, does it have mean it does include pro, quote because, i mean, i know we're both laughing about that, but it's being a lead full week for russia. he's be the talking program. got to him. once a, a, lindsey rammed, got to it is all, is critical, minerals, you see what's happening, and so there's laughter right? now, these people are killing each other over these critical minerals goes anybody will buy from them and pay them top price. so it's not gold or silver or any of those

things that the belgians ripped up central africa over. it's now critical miles and those clinical mentos are fundamentally not totally, but fundamentally they're in the eastern part of ukraine, which russia now invest. so you got a problem and all, if you want to stop the grading and more and you want those critical manuals at the same time unless you can talk to it. and then this would be smart. this is the transactional president. you get on a plane, you go to moscow, you sit there with the new work out a deal, and then the deal. you work out some provisions for you're getting your share of the critical matters from there and you don't kill anybody and you stop the war. bruce mar, president would do that. but i don't know if we have a pretty smart person. i mean, over the dead bodies of the scale of destruction and ukraine, it's unbelievable that such a transactional policy could be even thought about. but there's no doubt trump right now, whether he knows it or not to the military, your 30 year military veteran yourself. the united states has been facilitating

what an assassination in russia, a killing attack drones into russia. it's going on. it's still going on. is the natural, apparently has a sign, an executive orders error this morning. i haven't seen the executive order but side an executive order, the sales, who's posterity, if iran assassinated, seem to bomb around, you can make this stuff up. the hollywood director would throw you out of his room and that's what he said at the press conference that the whole of iran would be presumably nuclear bombs. if he was assassinated, which presumably would only be part of the radium policy because he's not allowing it runs avenue, a weapons in iran. any way says they, the ones, thus ensuring the hard line is in geron. just say we do one nuclear weapons. well i watch draws research is one of the few people in the around the entire key. now that i listen to and pay attention to at the devil's on when he was being

interviewed. i think it was by uh, 3 suckers secaria. and if you read between the lines of was the re said he was saying, we'll do a deal. i'm on president. trump will do it. the a will gave you the deal is entry, will give you a deal that doesn't have a 25 year sunset. will give you an idea of where we will at least admit to talking about other issues like our boost and ma'am ballistic missiles. and so for, we'll give you a do, let's do it here. and then you can go back to saudi arabia and you can say you got a deal or honors not going to be in a power. i assure you to do work. and we can go ahead with the elongated extended and much more expensive abraham on towards that mohammed than solomon has in mind. that's at the bottom of some of this, the trump is talking about with regard to god. but the saudis are not going to go all down and he's just walked right in the bus. so if he thinks they are. yeah. and

the raining government though, seemingly desperate for this deal because this separating palestine from the j. c. p, a new j. c. buick and u. k. a deal but just find the balance of the most serious the elements of world policy, nuclear disarmament of. apart from all of these transactional, bizarre will be a dangerous conflicts. can we expect the most important element between food and drug will be the resumption of some kind of uh, a start treaty, some kind of treaty to restore a nuclear arms reduction to make live safer certainly should be. and if i did make that trip to moscow, sit down with food, and by the way, i'd go back even weight is the landscape. and hope that when i flew back and came over to you, he would have been assassinated anyway, i would say to food. and oh, by the way, we're through with this deal pretty much now we need to talk about not just

a bilateral treaty in this new girl arms business, but a multilateral treaty. you drag north korea and, and all drag israel in. we need all 9 nuclear weapons opening states to be and this multiple have a treaty resume that you and i are going to forge and take the credit for. oh yeah, we can run over to beijing and gives you using, paying a little bit of credit for it too, because we need him also. but let's forge a new treaty environment. that is, you know, pretty, pretty robust and we'll work most of the time, leasing hope to time it doesn't work is not the end of the world. and let's get a handle on these most dangerous weapons, which by the way, you and i possess about 10000. 0, that would be a real old historical achievement and a mark or, or his presidency. i hope you would think that way about it, but i don't know because i don't think is advisors iahomes think that what goes to gab?

she could be an exception. you're right. she could be an exception to larry. welcome and thank you charlotte. that's it for the show. well we were talking to guys on monday to further explore the reverberations of u. s. u. k. u um, genocide told me to be there by the to about his book being jewish, often destruction of guys a reckoning until then keep in touch by little as social media and such as video country and one channel going on are going to be hon dot com to watch and you and all the episodes are going on the go and see monday, the conflict around around the contract in the us military base and the bangladesh, the prime minister doesn't want to do it. and so our foreign policy planners decide we need to do, we're seeing a former state departments official blows.