tv Face the Nation CBS March 13, 2016 10:30am-11:00am EDT
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"face the nation" the 2016 presidential campaign comes unglued. violent protests at trump rallies our cbs battleground tracker poll shows movement in. protests at trump rallies which began in chicago. and kansas city last night markedon in the angry political tone in america. >> don't hurt the person. don't hurt the person. i'm a nonv you know that about me? >> dickerson: we'll talk to donald trump about the chaos what he's going to do about it. we'll hear from our cbs news reporter arrested trying tomonstration. and do or die or two candidates
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tuesday. we'll talk to ohio kasich about his tight race there with donald trump. and after his upset win over hillary clinton in michigan sanders about his prospect going forward. that and more come up on "face the nation."ed by cbs welcome to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. five states hold primaries tuesday we have new cbs numbers. among republicans in florida, home state sector marco rubio is running third at 21% behind donald trump who is at the top with 44% and ted cruz who isnd in 24%. john kasich is far behind with 9% support but in his home state of ohio, john kasich is tied with donald trump at%. behind them at 27. marco rubio is far down at 5%.
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at 38% with ted cruz right 34. john kasich at 16, marco rubio at 11. the big story is the anger out on the campaign trail in chicagoands of anti-trump protesters forced donald trump to cancel his rally then saturday in dayton, ohio, protester broke through the stage at trump event stunning the candidate and crowd. in kansas city another round of chaos in the streets we beginump in chicago this morning. mr. trump, you've said that you don't incite any of this activity but several rallies you have said that said about one i'd like to punch him in the face. another you suggested that it would be better if he was taken out on a stretcher. you suggested if one thought about throwing a tomato thatpporters should knock the crap out of him. how is that not encouraging the kind of behavior we're now seeing?
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rallies i've had, i get more people than anybody as you know by a lot. thousands and thousands of people. 25,000tting be -- you haven't seen one person even injured at one of our rallies. about the one guy was a bad dude, he was swinging, he was hitting people, he was a very bad guy and the police came in and they really were veryngly some of the audience members had no choice but to be effective and i didn't mind that at all. but they would have been hurt. other with tomatoes i was told by people in the audience we've heard that have tomatoes they're going to throw them at you. they have good arms that could do some damage, okay. i said to the people before myif you see anybody with tomatoes, you got to take them out, folks. got to take them out. i think everybody understands that.ne was hurt but gentleman walking out video shows him being escorted
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him, he was a, hurt, there was he wasn't doing any damage when he was walking out. he was cold cocked. you would suggest in one of your rallies pay for legal fees, would you pay for legal fees for >> well, i'm going to review it. i understand -- i don't condone violence, i don't condone what happened to him and what he did because he got carried away and but this kid was walking out and i understand he had certain finger up in the air as he's walking out. and this man became you know what, again, i don't condone violence but the kid shouldn't have had the finger up in the air, eitherf that's what he did. look at the tape i'll let you know. >> dickerson: is that the threshold just wrong gesture and it's okay to clock him? >> terrible gesture. we can say oh, it doesn't matter but i think it's a terrible gesture. you know it's interesting, these people not protesters they're
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disrupters in some cases that's all they do they stand up andid that at a bernie rally, many come from bernie. i have tremendous young people also, we have a whole level of't even believe it how young my audience is. but if they ever went to bernie rallies did the same thing, i want to tell you you would be so nobody talks about it, but you would be so against. whole different standard when it comes to republican conservative versus went to their rallies and disrupted their rallies like my rallies are disrupted the press would particular up -- stick up for them make all how terrible it is. so, we have two standards in this country, it's very unfortunate. the press is extremely dishonest.ou talk about these protesters you said these are barred, bad people we're going to take our country back from these people.
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who are "these people" in that well, i see people in the audience that i don't think they have great future. i think they're disrupters, they are not in love with ouri think they protest and disrupt, that's what they do. i don't know if they do it for a living, i don't know if they get paid for doing it. but they are not good people andot good for our country and the people that come to my rallies these are extraordinary people. these are great people. these are people that are reallyany cases. noww that being said, we are very successful people, we have smartest, we have the best that aren't educated as well. if you look at the polls coming out of all these states that i've won, which is most of them, if you look at the polls comin with hispanics, i lead with women, i lead with very well educated. evangelical. i lead with veterans. i lead in every category.
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we really do have a young crowd. if they went to hillary rally, although nobody cares too much about hillary rallies because there's no fervor there. if they went to bernie rally what a terrible thing. they disrupt me from talking. i do the best i can with it. and by the way, you've heard me say it, don't hurt them. i'm the police, don't hurt them, don't hurt them. i don't condone violence. some of these people are violent.ou policy question at the debate you talked about -- something i frankly use i shouldn't be allowed to use it when you talky laws, talked how you took advantage of them when you and i talked about your taxes you say try to pay as little as possible. if you are president, why wouldaws that you put in place if they knew you were taking advantage of those laws when you were in the private sector? >> because i know the gameybody, because i've been on the other side. i built one of the greatest companies. i did filing which shows one of
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assets, very little debt,, some of the greatest assets in the world. but let me just tell you, i use the bankruptcy laws just like other very successful people. i won't use theirme ten people, biggest people in all of business, we do it -- the game we play. we use the laws of the land.ay the game. wait a minute. as far as the visas are concerned i'm in the doing anything wrong, i think those visas shouldn't be allowed. but they are allowed. they are part of the fabric of what you do. use it, i'm a businessman. now that i've turned politician, i hate to say that almost about myself, but now that i'm running for office, i know the gamenybody. i'm the one that can fix all of this stuff. when you say talk -- i never went corrupt, you -- bankrupt, you understand i never wentok at the business leaders, every once in awhile i have 500 companies, so many different companies and very few i will take advantage
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as every other major business person does. >> dickerson: that's what i want to ask about the playing of the game.rson who endorsed you this week you said he was pathological then both of you said, well, that was just politics. so, you're saying it's just the game. serious things you say are just politics, it's just the game, then why isn't everything you're saying just a game not politics totally open to revision? politics. i say bad things about people. they say bad things about me. actually ben wrote it in his book. i just read sections of his book.ote. i'm not going to make up anything. i could tell you about john kasich he's done a terrible job in ohio people think he's done his businesses. real estate taxes have gone through the roof, he talks about not raising taxes, the real estate taxes in ohio have gone through the roof, he
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which is going to be worse than nafta. going to take all the car industry, everything else out. his coal industry is dead.w, give me a break. you tell me about how goodies doing, he's doing terrible job for ohio. >> dickerson: we're out of time, mr. trump. thanks so much. dickerson: among those arrested friday night at the chicago trump event was cbs news reporter so pan who covers network he spoke to cbs news producer charlie brooks. start. there were protesters, hundreds of them. many scuffles broke out but nothing too serious at that point. there were protesters outside.ement. that donald trump was concerned
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the rally there was totalside the arena. lots of cursing, people pushing and shoving on both sides. both supporters and protesters. eventually i went outside. group of police officers running towards an area of protesters. i had my camera, i jet alonghis area. i get to this crowd there's a man being arrested. his head is bloodied on the ground. shooting, this the protesters at this point had shut down the street. the police officers areuffle bricks out i'm shooting this scuffle. and before i knew it, a policee police officer maybe multiple pulled me down from the back of my hoodie street. then police officer put his boot fed me.
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myself as press, i said i have're not listening to me. eventually they put me in to the back of this police van along with the man that was bloodied and another gentleman. pitch black, then i was in handcuffs for maybe an hour before policeman took me to the station, processed me, cuff me again at the station.police officers told me i was being charged with resisting arrest. >> you've been covering this campaign for awhile. have you seen tensions build?racterize the mood in these events over last couple of weeks or month? >> there have been protests going on a for months and months and months. this is nothing new. however there has been a recent uptick i ternly never seenight. that was unprecedented. there had been other groups of coordinated protests at pep
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>> do you that have any impressions of the sort of people that were making up the bulk of the protesters? >> well, according to people i one of the organizers, told me there were countless groups, there was coordinated effort going back weeks as soon as they heard thating here. person i talked to last night said he couldn't tell me how many were involved because there were so many. unclear how many were there but whole bunch of different, including black lives matter, vulgar chants in mum timrse group. i wile say most were young. injured he is back on the campaign trail with donald trump today. we now want to turn to ohio who joins us from cleveland. governor, i want to start with something you said about donald trump you said there's no place for a national leader to prey on the fears ofn our country. how exactly is he preying an
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>> well, he's done a lot of name calling, he's created a very toxice's -- look, start with immigration, do you want to start with the muslims. where does it end? one group against another and it's created a toxic atmosphere i'm not going to tell i in his rally some of these who want to he create problems. that happens in all volatile situations. but, you know, john, look, america is greatest strength is its people. and our g people is when we're unified. there's no doubt that he's run this divisive campaign it's concerning to me.ay he's not going to be the nominee. we're going to learn from this. and i'm going to win ohio on tuesday, we'll be competing all it's going to be a new day, just wait and see. >> dickerson: one of the things he says, that others say, too, the voters are just angry he's not preying on fears this is
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talk about that line a little bit, difference between voters who are angry and then the politicians who poke at that anger. >> well, look, i think first ofpeople that are upset. they're worried about their jobs and their wages, which haven't gone up. they put their money in the bankr kids are still living in the home after a college degree. these are real concerns. i said it in the first debate that he was tapping in to the reason i understand it is because i grew up in that environment as a kid. but the way you get those voters is to tell them how you can fix hy i always talk about the strength of my record. whether it was in washington, help can this economy to tray off or whether it's been in ohio with the creation of overbs here. i also think you can walk into a room, john, of a hundred 50e78 you can put them in really bad mood or walk into that same roomhem to be hopeful. i notice this everywhere i go because when i show up i talk
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how people need to work together and don't wait for somebody begin to change the world in the world in which you live. and the hopefulness of it i think works. frankly, since i've been so contagious because last debate was sweet, themselves. at that last debate when everybody was talking about trade it seems like republican party trade is now a bad word. you voted for nafta, donald that against you. who is the promoter of free trade now in the republican party? >> well, sort of interesting,lways been a fair trader and a free trader at the same time. in 2001 i helped the steel companies to get 201 trade could consolidate and be stronger. i've been saying for a long time that we need to have an expedited process when people cheat we shut their productst that doesn't take away from the fact that we have to be
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because one out of every five it. 38 million americans have jobs that are connected to trade. we do want to have free trade but want to have fair trade and say that when you're cheatings, we're going to take action against you that would include manipulation of currency.cs, you said you're going to win ohio. marco rubio said his voters should vote for you in ohio are you saying your voters should vote for him in florida? >> jard to tell your voters to go vote for somebody else. i'm not campaigning in florida, my focus has been in this state. and in illinois.he end, this is not like stop somebody this is about my telling people the way the country ought to be run.ad. and why i've had success. i can give them the hope that we actually can pull the country together, remember we'republicans and democrats.
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problems, frankly using conservative principles.fore republicans. that's actually an argument people are using against donald trump, some of your rifles seem they're going to stick with that pledge and support him, where are you on that? >> well, i'd like to support the nominee. but he's not going to be the t not going to happen. but i said at the last debate he makes it difficult. we'll see how this goes. i mean, he's got to have -- begin to lift people stope and the toxic environment must end. this is not making us proud. think of the videos that have been shown all over the world ofut at campaign rally. there are people around the world that are shaking their heads who are saying, what the heck is happened to america? we'll be fine. they're going to make the right decision in my opinion. >> dickerson: all right, john kasich that will have to be the last word. thanks so much for being with us. we'll be back in aus. you may have inactive follicles. reactivate them with women's rogaine
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>> dickerson: now to the democratic race. the cbs battleground has hillary clinton up almost 30 points over bernie sanders in florida.r sanders at 43%. illinois shows much tighter race, senator sanders is up two points over secretary clinton's 48 and 46. we gors who is in st. louis, this morning, good morning, senator. donald trump says he might start rallies. >> well, you know, donald trump has been an incredibly divisive figure day after day, hisncite can violence. we have seen videos of some of his supporters responding to that rhetoric by kicking people,ching them. we have seen recently charges
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manager for assaulting a femalethere's a lot of this fumes about violence coming from trumps campaign, i very muchtands that in democracy people should be allowed to go to anybody's rally peacefully demonstrate without fear of being beaten up. i hope. this is not good for the country. >> dickerson: do you encourage some of your protesters, some of the protesters at some of your -- supporters i should say are going to these encourage them to keep doing that? >> no, not to disrupt rallies. trump, i won't shock you john byald trump liza whole lot. he calls me a communist, that's a lie. to suggest that our campaign is telling people to disrupt his lie. we don't. we have millions of supporters and some of them will do what they do. but our campaign has never, not once,ort to disrupt mr. trump's rallies are
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>> dickerson: in contest with hillary clinton she has said that she was way out in fare back in 1993 and she wonders where you were on that issue back then. what's your response? >> well, i think there's aor something of me right by her side. i have always said that hillary clinton did very, very good job as first lady.he mold as to what a first lady should be doing. but to criticize me on health care is not quite fair because i in congress from day one. in the fight for universal health care to make certain thate join the rest of the industrialized world, guaranteed health care to all people. affordable care act i worked with congressman on major put $12 billion in the community health centers so that millions of people now have health care
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i have led the effort to take onnd unconscionable pricing of the drug companies who are ripping us off, charging us the highest prices in the world such that millions oft afford medicine that they need. i don't have to defend myself to anybody about the role i have played in health care. i do believe that we should mover all health care system which finally says that health care is a right, to all people in our country somethingentiates me. >> dickerson: talk about politics a little bit here. on these election day you had big surprise win in michigan, real momentum booster at theillary clinton got more delegates that happened on almost every election day. if that keeps hanking she'sn. >> well, john to, everybody's surprise, we began this campaign, we were 3% in the poles about 70 points behindn.
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states, eight of them by very large margins. one in michigan was very tight. all of the pollsters predicted that we would lose michigan by 15 to,, 25 points. well, we ended up winning. i think we have a lot of illinois. in ohio, in missouri. i think we'll do better than people think in north carolina. and florida. we're looking for ward to very good tg the democratic nomination. >> dickerson: we'll talk about it after those rules. thanks for being with us. we'll be right back. is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student?ng your daughter the opportunity she deserves? the artistic wonders of the natural world? success is,
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