>> wednesday morning, some pollsters are going to have to make an explanation w they were so wrong. >> mike: marco rubio insis he can win florida and he blames donald trump for the vlence at his rallies. we go one-on-one with rubio this morning. >> donald trump has got to go. >> glenna: the violence raises new concerns and the questions about the race and the republican party. we will take it to the round table. >> mike: it's over in tallahassee, the legislation session ends on a high note and high fives. two lawmakers are here to explain. >> glenna: good morning and welcome. a big week ahead with florida's primary.

presidential debates and the endnd of the state legislative session. marco rubio. the republican senatorrom miami knows that he has to win florida tuesday, or his campaign over. at least, that's what the conventional wisdom says. i spoke with rubio a short time ago. and joining us now which satellite is senator marco rubio. senator, good morning, good to see you. >> good morning, michael. good to sese you. >> mike: senator, you have been campgning nonstop around the state. you've had enthusiastic audiences i know. but here's the question. the polls say that you cannot win florida. that you are far behind. what's your feeling? can you catch up? can you win? >> we will. i'm confident of that. i already told another journalist earlier, on wednesday

have to make an explanation why they were so wrong. place. we've said an under dog. we're an unusu year. we're running into this electoral phenomenon. i hope people watch what awaits us if he's our nomine he's obscene and aggressive and vulg things that he says on a regular basis. he's ripping ourarty apart at the seams. we can't solve problems if we discourse. we can disagree on issues, but not violently. we haven't seen this since the 1960s >> mike: not since george c.

demonstrations and violence. donald trump says he's not responsible for the violence. is he responsible? >> there are consequences. when you go around saying let's beat up the protester and i'll pay the legal fees. when your campaign manager is under investigation for saulting a female in florida. when you have someone sucker punching someone at an event and when they're released from jail and they say next time we're going to kill them, he is responsible. some people hear this stuff and is insights them to go further. i think he's responsible for -- look, yesterday he gave a rally and repeats this crazy story how some american general 50 or 60 years ago dipped bullets in pig's blood -- that's just not true.

of stuff and starts to cheer. first of all, that would have been a war crime. and second of all, it's not we as a nation would ever do. what kind of leader goes around spreading a lie like that, as if it's a glorious thing we should think about doing. there are consequences to this. we're saying it play out before our eyes. >> mike: senator, on wednesday night at the debate here at miami-dade college, jake tapper asked donald trump about this. and he went into kind of an elaborate explanation. but he said i don't condone this. and i don't want my supporters to do this. but it seemed frankly kind of tepid. he did not say this is wrong. are you waiting for him to say that? >> yeah, but he's not going to do it.

he got into the position that there's angry people in america. instead of saying here's how we're going to fix it. he's decided to make them angrier andore frustrated and saying the reason this is going wrong for you, it's japan, china, mexico, muslims, you fill in the blank, it's their fault. give me the power and we'll go after them. it's dangerous and we're leading to like. and people need to wake upp and put a stop to this. and we are all -- i mean all of us are going to pay a terrible price for what is happening. >> mike: senator rubio, i think the idea of the coursening of the political discourse didn't start with donald trump. you told a washington post reporter that president obama bears responsibili. what has president obama said that is nearly as radical, as

>> i've never said it's nearly as radical in terms of violence. but i've seen this president in the past basically imply if you don't agree with him on medicare and medicaid that you don't care about the elderly. i've seen him say if you're pro life, you're waging a war on women. if you don't agree with the healthcare plan, you don't care about sick americans. hold on, let me finish. i've heard him say if you're a supporter of the second amendment and don't support his gun laws, that you didn't care gun violence. so he has chosen to be divisive. events. this is new since we haven't seen since the 1960s. it's dangerous and i'm deeply concerned about that. >> mike: senator, on friday, i spent the day covering a visit

deputy national security advisor, who is really the architect of this initiative, this opening of relations between the u.s. and cuba. ben rhoades said over and over again, the president is going to meet with ssents, with pro choosing. thererwill be ten to 15 of them. he's going to meet with them and give them his support and hear their concerns. that would be a good thing, wouldn't it? >> sure. the problem is -- first of all, let's see the list. second of all, a meeting is good. but a meeting is not going to cover up for the fact that the images are going to be around the world are the images of the u.s. president socializing and have a good 'ol time with a dictator. the mesge that sends is this whole thing about changing government in cuba,@hat's not a priority anymore. we're not really focused on that. we've accepted this as thehe legitimate leaders of this

should. sure we'll give lip service to democracy. but a meeting with dissidents and democracy actors on the island is not going toe able to make up for the fact that the president and the images the world is going to see is that of the american president with his arm around and basically socializing with and sending a powerful image that we accept theastro government on the island. i think that's going to be devastating that is going to have long-term consequences fo the democracy on the island. >> mike: let me go bk to the point where we began, and that is florida. you are feeling confident that you are going to win on tuesday, just as in a sense as bernie sanders upset all the pollsters and the conventional wisdom in michigan. you won there. you think you're going toull it off here. >> i do. of course, if people come out and vote. if people watching on a sunday afternoon -- you can vote early today. because tuesday is going to be a

but i need everyone to c ce out and vote. i need their help. i can win florida if the people go out and vote for me. >> mike: can you go forward if you don't with inon tuesday? >> yes, because this is not a traditional year. donald trump will have to win 62% of the delegates remaining in order to be the nominee. i don't know how he does that. and ted cruz would have to win 75% of the delegates. there's no way he does that. so we areln chartered territory. but this is unique. if anybody else was the front runner, if it was jeb bush, the race would be over. but it's donald trumpnd he's unacceptable to 2/3 of the republican party. so well after florida, this will be going on. florida will be very important. if i win, it will be an enormous boost. we won in washington yesterday. i'll never give up.

>> mike: senator rubio, thanks for your time. we'll see you tuesday night in your home town. >> thanks, michael. >> glenna: up next, two south florida lawmakers are in the house to tell us what they accomplished in tallahassee the

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so hankies dropped after two months of bill crafting and horse trading. >> mike: it's governor rick scott who may need a hanky. he didn't get what he wanted with little dissent, legislators passed an $82 billion budget. money for worthwhile things and also turkeys. >> glenna: rodriguez is the representative -- we'll introduce him in a minute. but at the center of it, a republican from southwest miami-dade, what chairs the senate judiciary committee. his actions killed the open carry and gun bills this session. the democrat from miami, one of the more vocal opponents of the governor's tax cut that was cut just about in half. welcome. both of you. >> mike: great to have you both.

representative, you are part of the minority p pty up there. but all but one democrat voted for the budget that the senator and the republicans proposal. this was just, you know, a moment up until last year where you guys couldn't agree on anything. what was different? >> guest: there were two things that brought the legislature across party lines and the senate and the house. one, the governor has been so extreme in terms of his@ governoring style that it's forced the chambers to work together. the district rulings have re-mapped the senate map and we're seeing the dynamics are related to that. i voted for the budget because of@ two things. as a vice chair, it was a great year for the dade delegation.

>> guest: but we got a lot of things done in policy and budget. the more important thing, i thought it was a great year for the budget. $286 million went to paying down -- went to our local schools to say pay down what would otherwise be more local property taxes in our sool system. the trajectory, the state pretending they're cutting taxes -- >> mike: the budget that the governor proposed put the onus on local taxpayers. >> guest: that's true. i've been harping on the same thing is the trajectory to reverse that. it's dangerous trajectory. what this budget did this year is responsible tax relief because it helps pay down otherwise local property taxes. as you said, the governor wanted to be majority local property tax.

funds. that's a very dangerous thing. >> glenna: as s ng as you brought up education, senator, in the education bills that passed, there's a lot of concern that so much money has been diverted from public schools, especially in the capitol pot to the charter schools, not o oy siphoning money out of capitol school pots, but also there was a bill that would sort of tell the people involved, no profits are supposed today go to the people building, the developers. let's keep the money in the schools. but that didn't pass. so didn't public schools really take a hit ts time? >> guest: well, no. i think we made a lot of progress in education in terms of capitol funding, in terms of property tax relief for everybody, local property tax relief. we have record funding for education. can we do more? absolutely. and we can.

you want to talk about is what's been done for special needs kids in our state. and i think that was a very, very important prerogative of the president of the senate. we were able to accomplish that. in terms of what you're talking about, which is the profits for the private developers of charter schoolu, you know the senate position was a strong one against that. >> mike: it was the house that beat that down. if i can, i'm on record, so it's no surprise to say, i have complimented you publically. let me do it again, for stopping the open-carry and campus-carry bills that appeared to be on their way to perhaps passage in the senate and the house. now, why did you do that? i'm glad you did. but why did you do it? and how much pressure was there from the n.r.a. and gun supporters? >> guest: well, i stopped

session and this session. airport-carry. and yeah, there was pressure. you know, the n.r.a. put a lot of pressure. you have to remember, the open-carry bill was a bill sponsored by senator don gates, president. >> mike: a lot of clout. >> guest: a lot of clout and a lot a pressure. >> mike: excuse me. what was your reasoning? why didn't you think it was a good idea for open-carry? a number of other states do it. but particularly campus-carry, wherat state college universities, kids who are 21 or over and have a concealed weapons permit could have brought guns on campus. just not a good idea, was it? good idea. and i've been quoted saying it's not a good idea to give every 21-year-old a concealed permit

safe. so if there's a concern and there is a concern about campus that. it's not by giving every 21-year-old a handgun. >> glenna: there's as much news abou things that did not pass that did. one of the big losers was enterprise florida, the governor's big initiative to put $250 million into job creation. but representative, what the governor said was without this, 272 business deals that would have created 50 jobs, might not happen. is that ringing an alarm? >> guest: no. if i can touch on the gun bills very briefly. >> mike: of course. >> glenna: sure. >> guest: i would say two things. one thing we have to thank again is the fair districts amendment that dealt with jerrymandering.

>> guest: while the senat was consistent for campus carry, while a little bit on the open-carry and i want to call you out on the stand your ground law that the senator did vote for. it was a significant rewritef stand your ground that would have given -- we all agree that if somebody uses force or kills somebody in self-defense, they should have an opportunity to prove it. but this would have made the prosecutors have to prove that. and that was dangerous -- >> mike: hold on just a minute. i wantt to give senator a chance to respond to that on stand your ground. >> guest: i'll tell you, look, you want to talk about killing or stopping bad legislation. and i not only was one of the people who participated in stopping open-carry or campus or airport-carryt i led that charge

the fact of the matter, there's a reason why t league of women voters honor me as one of three legislators to get their working democracy -- making democracy work award. and that's because of the positions that i've consistentltl taken over the years. >> mike: on stand your ground, did you support the bill -- >> guest: on the issue of stand your ground, there was -- i did vote for a slight modification in committee, but ultimately, that's not something we ended up supporting, and it didn't bece a priority of the senate. as you can tell, theenate has always led and i've been one of the leaders in the last five or six years in the senate to have a moderate common sense approach to legislation. >> mike: it's more moderate in thee senate. the house is fairly conservative. you're not. but we understand that. >> glenna: we need to take a quick break. >> mike: we need to take a

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>> glea: we are back talking end of session with the senator and the representative. and right before the break, we started talking about one of the failures of the session, enterprise florida. governor. he was out there, he had those campaigning. >> guest: what the governor

hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the private sector under the guise economic development. the governor wanted to reduce oversight and multiply by five how much the public i invests. in the house there was significant opposition. i worked with a group of republicans and a small group of democrats to block it from the finance and tax committee. the policy component of what the governor wanted. and ultimately house leadership was effective against it, and it did not get funded to that tune. i'm happy about that. i think it's unfortunate we didn't have a realistic conversation what it means to do economic development. but i think putting more money with less oversight into the slush funds the governor has is not the way to use the public's money. >> mike: senator, i think one of the arguments against the funding was in the escrow

enterprise florida millions and millions of dollars that haven't been paid out. >> guest: correct. $143 million that is sitting that. that's a significant amount of money. i want to say something about economic devopment that is important for our community in miami-dade county. miami-dade did very well in the bubuet in terms of projects and local projects that go to the heart of the small businesses and economic development in our community, including the $1 million that i got for miracle mile, refurbishing of miracle mile. >> mike: and the underine beneath the metro mile, there's $2 million there. i don't know what the governor will do that with. >> guest: that's a game changing project. i worked closely with that. so that's a terrific game changing project i think for miami-dade county in terms of inviting economic development in our community.

that really, really work to stimulate job creatatn in our community. that's a common sense approach to economic development. >> guest: i agree and i think again it was a great year for us in the dade lealdelegation. the miamimiater cleanup. the miracle mile. i'd hate to say bringing home the bacon, but that is part of our job to make sure we get your share. and we tend not to get our share. >> glenna:a: are you able to say broward counun? did broward county fair as well? >> guest: not as well as miami-dade. but broward county did well as well. you had a session where there was a lot of harmony. i this i the senate's moderate moderating t te over the last six years has definitely contributed to that.

senate contributed to that. andy and his style of leadership to empower the committee chair to say make policy decisions. temperature. >> mikik it worked. representative, one of the, i of the session of the legislature is that floridans, especially in south florida i know, upset that nothing has been done on amendment one, passed in 2012 to protect the environmentally fragile ever glades and springs around the state. but you passed a bill that sets aside $250 million for 20 years to implement amendment one. tell us about th. >> guest: so as people know, more than 70% of the electorate voted for amendment one, which is making sure our water

the problem was that that wasn't just violated last year. it was brazenly violated. you look at what the money was used for. -- >> mike: nothing to do with what the people voted for. >> guest: it's asking for a lawsuit. so i worked with representative harrol in the house to take the funds and designate them to everglades restoration. and that bill did pass. and that is a very good policy going forward. >> glenna: the biggest concern with the policy, there was nothing in the bill that holdsds the actual polluters responsible. the onus is again on the taxpayers for the clean up >> guest: i was one of the two legislatures, only one of two, that voted against the legislators for that reason.

>> mike: forgive me. i am going toave to cut you off. we are out of time. >> glenna: thank you. >ike: great to have you again. congrats on open-carry and campusucarry. >> glenna: up next, the debate of presidential politics ahead of the florida primary.

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>> mike: it is time now for some analysis and informed opinion. we think it's informed. about this week's top stories with our power house round table. >> glenna: glad to welcome mark marc caputo, author of the politico daily play book. and welcome back as well to anthony mann lead political reporter for the sun sentinel. welcome to the round table, veteran political reporter in south florida, op ed columnnnist. >> mike: as i'd like to say . [foreign language] >> guest: it doesn't matter. >> mike: great to have you all here. >> glenna: and no lawyers this morning. not that i -- i love our lawyers. but this is the coverage right

>> mike: let's begin if we can. and anthony, let me turn to you first with this alarming, is the word, that fits the violence we've seen a the trump campaign rallies. really sturbing, because in my view, anyway, i this this affects the political system at every level. we've got t o now in presidential politics, i think it's going to happen maybe in other campaigns as well. anyway, when you saw the -- you know, the fights, the violence in chicago friday, what did you think? >> guest: it was just amazing and shocking. i think the same reactions that & everybody else had. and it was i guess not surprising that it came to that. because you can tell the temperature has been rising and a lot of agitation among people who really like donald trump and among people w who really don't like donald trump.

this is a city reeling from race relation discord. to have this rally there and ramped up. the geography counts here. >> guest: my father was a reporter at the chicago tribune and covered the 1968 democratic convention. we don't see police cracking skulls, at least not yet. but to anthony's point, the temperature has been rising. a democrat operative ipoke to yesterday said something interesting, if these guys cared -- the protesters -- if these guys cared about making a difference, they wouldn't be doing this on t.v. they've be organizing and turning out to vote. if people care about donald trump, this strengtheningng him. >> guest: i'm not surprised and i brought a quote and everything. i thought it was a brilliant article in the "new yorker".

but basically it says insults bigotry. the republican party spending years, are seeing the writing on the wall. and it says donald trump in very big letters. and the president says the same thing in south by southwest. he says we're surprised quoting -- there's gambling in this establishment. it's been going on for years. >> guest: donald trump made a name for himself in a segment of the conservative movement. not all of it.. but pushing the birther method that president oma was not an erica. >> guest: and the republican establishment didn't try to stop that.

we're not really sure. and they didn't want to a alienate the people that believed that. >> m ke: how culpable of we to be enablersf donald trump? when he has a news conference, if you turn to fox or c.n.n. or msnbc, if it's an hour, they will put all of that hour onhe air and then -- >> guest: during the primary on tuesday when hillary won, he was there selling steaks and no one would break away. hello. [laughter] >> glenna: twice in the last week, i've heard both marco rubio and ted cruz say it's the media's fault. >> guest: of course they're going to do that. that's their common response to everything. to a degree it is in that i don't mind the press or t.v. broadcasting all the speeches. what i mind is not the vetting

yesterday, donald trump says on twitter, word is there's early dishonest voting in florida and we, he says are going to be asking law enforcent to investigation. as a lot of other reporters, i called the county and supervisors and nobody knew what he was talking about. >> guest: but the candidates themselves withhhe exception of jeb bush, they all ebled him i think. >> guest: they did. rick wilson said it best, the strategy of the candidates, especially ted cruz was playing with the alligator in the hopes that it eats you last. [laughter] and that is what's happening. >> guest: there are also a lot of voters who are voting for donald trump. so i mean, to blame the media may be a little bit displaced.

and self-satisfied and smug and deserve a lot of criticism, but [laughter] i thought one of the bestt moments in the democrat debatat was when jorge -- or karen said to hillary is donald trump a racist? i mean, boy, that's putting it out there bluntly. and it seems to me she sort of did a soft shoe for 30 seconds and enumerated the reasons he is but wouldn'tse the word racist. >> guest: maybe it's not polar for me to say it, i think he h has imbedded racial bigotry, but he's benefitting from very racist people.. >> guest: people who respond to this, and most people who are racist, don't think they're racist. they think -- >> mike: most of my friends -- &

or many goo black friends, that kind of thing? >> glea: they call that micro aggression. >> mike: we have to takee break. we'll be back with your round table. just stickckith us. (phone ringing) you can't deal with something, by ignoring it. but that's how some presidential candidates seem to be dealing with social security. americans work2hard, and pay into it. so our next president needs a real plan to keep it strong. (elephant noise) (donkey noise)

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rolling with anthony and bernadette and mark. let's talk about marco rubio. we just saw the interview i just recorded with him this morning. he says that he's going to win florida, despite thehe polls saying he's down by between 9-22 points. and then he says i'llo on, even if i lose. how does he do that? >> guest: well, he does it by himself probably. campaigns are like vehicles, and vehicles take gas, campaign money is the gas of our vehicle. if you're a loser of our own state, campaign contributors aren't going to give himim money. >> guest: he has to say that. he can't be anything other than publically optimistic. >> guest: it's painful to watch. because i think honestly the ide's of march are upon us.

>> glenna: it's not much differert what jeb bush was saying at the end of his campaign. you never saw anything other than i'm going to continue forward. and the mass then was not the mass now. >> mike: wouldn't you agree thatmarco rubio until about 11 or 12 days ago was just riding high? >> guest: until the lethal debate. the lethal debate started the down fall. even if my audience, who is very pro rubio,o, i noticed people are saying they're voting for ted cruz. althou, there are a lot of them who support donald trump. >> mike: this was to say the obvious when marco began talking about trump's spray tan and then small hands and the other stuff. i mean, that was just a huge error of judgment. >> guest: it wasn't the cause

he was on his way to losing. i think what bernie was referring to was the new hampshire debate, marco rubio's campaign was always on a tightrope. he had 0 margin for error. >> glenna: it's interesting listening to him now taking a high road and admonishing the tone and the violent tactics of the trump campaign. but when he got down in the trump territory, with the hands and the size matters, that -- you saw his numbers really go down after that. >> guest: right. but don't mistake correlation with causation. if you look at the exit polls in virginia, the virginia vote was right after rubio did all the hand stuff. and the last three-day decider showed heon 40% of that vote. >> guest: was it trump's vote? question. what we do know is that winning

this campaign. when he lost those other states -- in virginia he -- downhill. >> guest: i think the crude language f from rubio was simp symptomattic of a problem. >> guest: he was back to the rubio we've seen years ago. rubio was different. more relaxed and funny. >> mike: i thought he had a very good night. bernie, let's look for a second at the democrats. bernie sanders has sort of tuesday. and on subsequently that he's in this for the next couple of months. i mean this is going onto go on. the inevitable hillary clint is not quite as inevitable. >> guest: it was an interesting debate, because he brought up a whole bunch of details about immigration.

support. the whole minutemen issue. sending the children back. and in cuba, he was very much not in the wrong p place at the wrong time. because this is not a place in which to preach the wonderfulness of the castro regime. >> guest: how hard can it be to disavalue fidel castro? . >> mike: why didn't he say, all right. i said that in 1985 and i was more enamored of it. i've subsequently learnedhat he's done awful things. and he's oppressive. how hard is that? >> guest: by '85 his record was clear what fidel castro did. i don't get it. >> guest: that's why trump called him a communist. >> mike: bernie, what are your

president's trip to cuba? >> guest: my listeners are not happy with it. they wanted to dictatehe terms of the visit, which is difficult. and to a degree they did. because obama insists he's going to meet wh his dissents and not theirs. >> mike: ben rhoades, the national security advisor was -- >> guest: the point is not that. these people get beat up publically every week. but what is interesting to me, if you're there trying to s sl a capitalist, to a country that doesn't believeen private property, it's a very difficult prosition. they've approved 400 permits for corporations to go down there ana invest. >> mike: and starr wood and a.t. and t. and carnival. >> guest: who do you pay? your employer or the government?

i wish we had more time. thank you all for coming in. the >> glenna: as always, thank you. >> mike: we'll seeee you again soon. and don't you go away. stillo come, my personal perspective about the violence breaking out at the trump rallies.

i think he is.>> glenna: take a live look now

clouds are building, rain is coming. here is our weather authority meteorologist with the rest of the forecast. >> host: good afternoon, south florida. happy sunday. still seeing plenty of sunshine. if you want to go to the beach, why not. it's beautiful. there's still a high rip current risk. we can expect showers on the inland areas. we don't have high pressure over us anymore. these will impact broward and northward for this afternoon. herwise, a mix of sun and clouds. more humid with a high of 83 degrees. a surf of two to three-feet. and next week warming up to the 80s and drier. >> mike: thank you. before we leave you, you donald trump says he's not responsible for the violence at his rallies. but in every way he is. the trump supporter who sucker punched a black protester as he

carolina, he says the protector deserved it and next time, maybe they'll have to kill him. i'd like to say it was an olated incident, but it is not. friday night in chicago, they had to cancel the rally. donald trump says he's not responsible for the violence or any violence. but listen to what he's said. >> i'd like to punch him in the face. knock the crap out of him. you know what they'd used to do to guys like that? they'd be carried out on a stretcher. >> mike: that kind of overheated rhetoric would be unacceptable, but from a presidential candidate, it's unaccept and just qrong. yet trump continues to den any responsibility. abraham lincoln once said he want today appeal to the better

and he did. so have all of our greatest police political leaders. donald trump does not. he's started a fire he may not be able to put out. but he must quiuily and disavow this violence. that's my perspective.

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