in a confession she said she felt michael dunn got away with murder. >> do you think michael dunn got away with murder? >> at this point, i do, myself, personally, yes. >> when you went to the deliberating room you thought michael dunn was guilty? >> yes, sir. >> of killing a 17-year-old boy. >> what convinced you? >> to me it was unnecessary. >> not everyone on the jury agreed with her. and she revealed why. >> you all first took your first poll on guilt or innocence on the murder of jordan davis. what was your vote? >> 10-2. >> so two said self defense. so as we expected it came down to self-defense. the controversial stand your ground law that says you have no duty to retreat if you feel threatened and you can use deadly force. michael dunn said he was in fear and that he saw a gun. no gun was ever found. it was his word against everyone else's that he felt he was threatened. juror four also had a message for the parents of jordan davis. >> i would say i am sorry, of course. nothing will bring back their son. i hope that they feel that we didn't do them a disservice. >> back with u

i think on retrial the prosecution is going to focus heavily on the cross-examination of michael dunn him than they did in the first trial. >> beside the letter, dunn's phone calls were also considered irrelevant. here is what he said on one phone call to his fiancee. >> so being in a room by myself kind of sucks, but i guess it'd would be better than being in a room with them animals. >> well, you know, they probably wouldn't think too highly about what is going on. and so it is best. but i can only imagine. >> now, it's better than being in a room with those animals. couldn't the prosecution when they were cross examining -- when they were direct examining the fiancee, who was their witness, when he said he never mentioned a gun, couldn't they have played this phone call with him and her from jail saying even on this call he never mentioned a gun, and let them also hear the kinds of thoughts this man had by putting this into the trial? >> no. the judge would not have allowed that in. that statement would have been more prejudicial than probative. they could have gotten easily in the

the state might try and go after dunn's character using a letter michael dunn wrote from jail. quote, this jail is full of blacks and they all act like thugs. in is dunn writing. another. this may sound a bit radical, but if more people would arm themselves and kill these idiots when they're threatening you, eventually they may take the hint and change their behavior. i mean, if this were presented in front of this jury, it might have not only changed this juror's feeling, it might have changed others. >> this is toxic, explicit racism of the kind that you rarely get in courtrooms today. you know, a lot of times we're guessing. is this guy racist or not based on his conduct? well, here we have in writing very clear language from michael dunn himself just months after the shooting where he is clearly a racist with the capital r. that evidence should have come in. but i do not blame these jurors, as you say. they were not given the evidence. they were instructed to follow the law. they did follow the law. stand your ground was a great big problem for them. that's not their fault.

reaction to what one of the jurors had to say about the case. >> the verdict in the michael dunn murder trial is raising questions. >> the jury delivered a verdict. >> he's accused of killing a teenager. >> dunn fired ten rounds. >> the shots killed 17-year-old jordan davis. >> dunn says he shot davis in self-defense. >> no gun was ever found. >> no weapon, however, was ever found at the scene. >> this was a mixed verdict. >> guilty on four of five charge against dunn. >> that's three counts of attempted murder. >> and one count of firing into the vehicle. >> jurors failed to reach a unanimous verdict. >> the jury was unable to come to a decision on the charge of first degree murder. >> retrying the case is something that we've all had to do. >> the prosecutor said she would retry the case on the outstanding charge. >> and we'll give it the same full attention. >> he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground proop. >> for the stand your ground law -- >> something that's become sort of a matter of confusion over this case. >> stand your ground. >> stand your ground, th

no one said there was a gun other than michael dunn. so i think that to rely on his word, did espidespite the inconsistencies, the fact that he left the scene, ordered pizza that night, never called the police. it is the duty to call the police. if i fire my gun, it is my duty to call the police. i think this jury not being able to come to a decision, that the best possible outcome is to have another trial, with new prosecutors, and a new jury, and i think that lisa bloom is right. the new prosecutors have got to bring in all of the evidence. we've got to see the other mr. dunn, the mr. dunn that charlie hendricks' eight-year neighbor said existed. the man who threatened other people's lives. the man who may or may not have had other issues with alcohol. the man who said that this country was being taken over by minorities. we ought to see mike at dunn, the one he described in his own jail house letters. >> kerry sanders is outside the courthouse right now. bring us up to date. i just saw a whole group of people walk off, looked like th

>> we did, michael dunn. >> besides michael dunn. >> here we go, the only two people that know what happened, every single state's witness outside of the kids in the car indicate they were not looking over in that area until after they heard the gunshot being fired. as a matter of fact, the one witness who claims he heard mr. dunn say something, he even said, i only looked at the gun, i never looked at the suv, so not one single witness can talk about jordan davis being out of the car and even the kids in the car admitted he could have threatened michael dunn, but they didn't hear him. >> the prosecution has said it's going to retry on this top count. are you going to represent michael dunn in the retrial? >> as it stands right now, yes. there are things that come into play, we talked about the defense budget. >> what would having more money, what difference would that have made for the defense? >> we'd be able to bring in experts to show that when you are in a life and death fight or flight situation, what the mind goes through, what somebody may go through, and we get it. from day one we u

the top prosecutor in the michael dunn case now says the law needs to go. the top police officer in the dunn investigation now says the law should be fixed. and americans all across the country are demanding an end to this unjust law. it's been nearly a week since the dunn jury revealed that it was unable to reach a verdict in the shooting death of 17-year-old jordan davis. the mistrial shocked millions of americans and put a new focus on issues of stand your ground and self-defense. through it all, the parents of jordan davis have impressed with their composure, dignity, and grace in the midst of tragedy. and at the heart of this trial is the 17-year-old son they lost. he is no longer with us. but jordan davis has become the symbol of the rallying cry for all those fighting against this injustice. joining me now is jordan davis' father, ron davis, along with the family lawyer john phillips. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> first, ron, let me give my condolences for your loss. and let me ask you, it's been almo

. >> you didn't think michael dunn had to kill jordan davis? >> i don't think so. >> stand your ground is part of the consciousness in florida and the other stand your ground states. >> even if we don't ever receive the verdict for jordan, he will still pay because he will spend the rest of his life in jail. and i feel sorry for him for that. >>> today, prosecutors announced that michael dunn will be retried for the first degree murder of jordan davis in may. and today, we heard from a second member of the jury, juror number eight, a 21-year-old who says she thinks michael dunn is a good guy, but she also thinks he is guilty of murder. >> i honestly think he was a good guy. i think he is a good guy. i don't think he hates everybody. i don't think he wants around wanting to shoot everybody. i think that he made a bad decision. >> the first juror to speak, juror number four, known only as valerie says race was not a factor in their deliberations. >> for a lot of folk in america, they would say white man shoots and kills a 17-year-old black boy. h

they're forcing michael dunn. the only person who says there was a gun is michael dunn. the stand to prove that point. >> well, it's a fascinating case. we will keep an eye on it. thank you to faith jenkins and michael skolnik. >> thank you. >> thank you, karen. >> up next, our disrupter of the week a man of the law who could become an all-time first. that's ahead. t on cue. it's more than just a meal, it's meow mix mealtime. with wholesome ingredients and irresistible taste, it's the only one cats ask for by name. [ male announcer ] new vicks dayquil severe. helps relieve your ugliest, nastiest, roughest, toughest cold symptoms. new dayquil severe. with maximum symptom fighting ingredients. ♪ new vicks nyquil severe. helps relieve your ugliest, nastiest, roughest, toughest nighttime cold symptoms. new nyquil severe. with maximum symptom fighting ingredients. ♪ i can download anything i want. [ girl ] seriously? that's a lot of music. seriously. that's insane. and it's 15 bucks a month for the family. seriously? that's a lot of gold rope. seriously, that's a signature lo

>> michael dunn's state of mind in this trial is key. he's going to assert self-defense, meaning he was in reasonable fear for his life. and so the state, they're going to argue, no, he was just angry. he didn't shoot inside of this suv at these kids because he had to. he did it because he wanted to. he was angry. they were playing this thug music. he referred to them as thugs before that shooting ever happened. and they're saying that he reacted based on a bias that he had towards these kids, not because of fear for his life. >> lisa, that face there, john dunn, a very familiar case to anyone who followed the george zimmerman trial. you've got to wonder what sort of lessons the prosecution may have learned from that trial, the lessons that they might try and apply here. >> right, and that's what the entire first half of my book is about. in my opinion, the state of florida did a terrible job in the george zimmerman case. they missed the key evidence in the case. they argued the evidence that they had very inappropriately. they lost a wi

michael dunn got into an argument over loud music with four teenagers sitting inside a parked suv. dunn fired ten shots at the vehicle. jordan davis was killed at the scene. dunn says the killing was in self-defense, and that davis threatened him with a gun. >> he says yeah, i'm going to [ bleep ] kill you. i look, and i'm looking at a barrel. he is showing me a gun and he is threatening me. he said he was going to f-ing kill me. but after he opened the door, then he looked at me and said you're dead, [ bleep ]. >> and were you still sitting this in shock? >> yes, i was. >> were you still in fear for your life? >> i became even more fearful at that point. >> okay. at that point, what did you believe was about to happen to you? >> i thought i was going to be killed. >> did you even think he might even be able to get a shot off? >> yes, i kid. >> that testimony wasn't backed up by any other witness or any of the evidence in the case. the prosecution says it never happened. >> when that defendant opened fire, jordan davis was sitting in his car seat with the door closed, with nothing i

but let's start at the top of the hour here with the trial of michael dunn and the shooting death of florida teenager jordan davis. the trial is over. the jury's verdict means dunn will go to prison but not for killing jordan davis. a mistrial was declared on the most serious count, murder in the first degree. but dunn was convicted of three counts of attempted murder and a charge of firing into a vehicle. prosecutors hope to retrial davis, retry dunn, i should say, on the murder charge. now kerry sanders live outside the courthouse. what has the reaction been in jacksonville? >> reporter: well, those who believed that michael dunn was guilty are very upset and they don't understand how it is that after all of the presentation made to the jury that they could not conclude that he was guilty of first-degree murder. it appears according to analysts that looked at this because we have not heard from the jurors, that they were hung up on the issue of first degree or second degree. and the reason it appear this is they're hung up on the two is because they did find him guilty of aterveted

michael dunn got into an argument over loud music with four teenagers. sitting inside a parked suv. dunn fired ten shots at the vehicle. 17-year-old jordan davis was killed. dunn says the killing was in self-defense and that the teen threatened him with a gun. this case centers on one question, will the jury believe mr. dunn was really in fear? today during the closing arguments the state repeatedly focus td on the fact that no gun was ever found. >> on november 23, 2012 when this defendant shot and killed jordan davis there was no gun in that durango. there was no stick. there was no bat. there was no lead pipe. there was no gun. he makes no mention of the firearm. there were no shots every fired at this defendant. i think he said, well, there was one gun for them so he was shooting at all of them. but as i stated earlier, there was no gun in that durango. it didn't happen. there was no gun. >> the police blamed police for not finding the gun. >> did the detectives close the plaza down? no. did they secure the scene? they haven't call k-9 to find the gun. why didn't they search the

and they are indeed a jury of michael dunn's peers. and even with that, even with maybe their biases that they may have as far as culture is concerned. maybe not connecting with jordan and his culture, but we can still have a society where we can depend on them and count on them to render a verdict based on the facts of the case and the witnesses that they hear and not on any biases that they have. so i'm elated that we have this time. i think it's something for the history books. i think it's something that our young people all across this nation should understand and view, that this is really great for our nation, that we can maybe have a start of having justice and making sure that justice is equal and we don't have to worry about the makeup of the jury. i joined the human rights network, and we go to different places around the country where there's violations of human rights and i know there's a lot of people that have been unable to attain the justice that me an lucy have for our son. so immediately i'll be going to valdosta, geo

all around this country. >> and we will continue to wait for justice for jordan. >>> jury in the michael dunn loud music trial reached a verdict last night. after almost 32 hours of deliberations over the course of four days, dunn was convicted of attempted murder and shooting a deadly missile into a vehicle, which was occupied by four unarmed teens as they sat in a parked suv playing music. but the jury couldn't decide if the fact that three of the ten bullets he fired, which hit and killed 17-year-old jordan davis, constituted murder. this all goes back to the night of november 23rd, 2012, at a gas station in jacksonville, florida, when dunn shot at the unarmed teens after an argument over the volume of the music the boys were playing. music that dunn has described as thug music. dunn claims that he feared for his life and saw a gun in the car. in florida, because of the state's stand your ground law, it didn't matter that davis didn't actually have a gun. all that mattered was that dunn believed his life was in danger before opening fire in self-defense. his defense attorney said after the

even though michael dunn is almost certainly going to jail for the rest of his life. there was a sense of incompleteness about it. and i'll mention dunn seemed shocked. i really think he thought he was going to be acquitted of all charges. >> well, lisa bloom, dunn is a very strange person based on everything we've collected in the evidence so far. in his writings since he's been held awaiting trial he seems to have very strange reactions to things that happen around him, including when he's in parking lots in situations like he was in in this case. >> right. well, that's charitable, lawrence. i mean, i've read a lot of his jailhouse letters. he's very arrogant. he was quite confident that he was going to be acquitted in this case. he really had no doubt about it. he referred to african-americans as thugs and gangsters on a number of occasions. he said it would be great if more people would do what he did. and he said "the more i get to know those people," referring to african-americans, "the more prejudiced i become." i mean, this is a man who was really quite open ab

>> i said, yes, i know. >> that was rhonda rouer, the girlfriend of michael dunn, testifying to the opinion quote, thug music playing in the car where jordan davis was sitting with his friends. and this was dunn's attorney, cory thohla making his argument. >> you know who didn't duck? jordan davis. you know why he didn't duck? because he was getting out of the car with a weapon, after telling michael dunn, you're dead [ bleep ]. this is going down now. you have four men against one. >> those are some of the moments during the trial, when racial overtones may have seemed readily apparent in a case where a white man was accused of killing an frafrican-american teen. and yet the question of race was not expressly evoked in the case. we have lisa bloom and with me in the studio are jelani cobb with the university of connecticu connecticut, and the executive director of the metropolitan center for urban education. rincu sen, the executive president of the race forward, and publisher of colorlines.com, and michael denzel smith, a writer for the nation.com and a nobler fellow at the nation institu

i wonder if michael dunn thought he was in danger. that's why you have a hung jury because that's the last thing they negotiated whether he thought he was in danger. that's crazy because if i think that you are threatening me do i have a right to shoot you dead because i think you're threatening me. i think you have a gun. >> the scales of justice are a little tipped because the white business man gets the benefit of the doubt and the young black boy doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in a lot of people's minds. until we figure out how to balance those and show enough character evidence to show this wasn't some thug and michael dunn was a thug, then, you know, we might have a more fair trial. >> good to see you. thanks for stopping by. >>> we are also following some developing news in the ukraine. this is a live look at independence square in the capital, in kiev. there appears to be an end or a pause of the violence that's gripped that city for months and some calling a major break through opposition leaders signed a deal with the

. >>> one week ago today a florida jury could not agree on whether or not michael dunn's shooting andilling of an unfarmed african-american teen-ager constituted first degree murder. with that decision, we're once again working through complicated questions about the role of racial bias and buy vent acts and how to addresses permissive vigilante style gun culture that comes with stand your ground laws. some say the law just needs to be tweaked. even in jacksonville where jordan davis was killed, the sheriff on friday said, quote, i think there's some tweaking to the stand your ground law needed. if it's a safe retreat and it doesn't place you in any more danger, i think that's always the best response." >> but here's the thing -- michael dunn did not retreat when he had the chance to. instead he got out of his car while he was firing into the suv carrying four unarmed black teen-agers. so while i agree that the law needs to change, it seems pretty clear we need to do more than sort of tinker around the edges of these laws. the florida prosecutor, the same prosecutors who failed to get

so now that michael dunn has a lawyer, he now has a story. told through his lawyer, that he thought he saw a shotgun in the car, and felt his life was threatened. but he didn't feel his life was threatened enough to call the police after being in a shootout with dangerous kids who had a shotgun, and were still on the loose, according to his story. a story that he and his lawyer surely will be rewriting as they approach trial. the police say the kids did not have a gun. the killer's lawyer has offered this clever counter to the police. how hard did they look? the lawyer says the kids could have thrown away their shotgun, even though they did not leave the scene, and they and their car were searched by the police. after michael dunn killed jordan davis, he behaved exactly the way a hitman would behave. he fled the scene like a guilty murderer. a guilty murderer who may have had a few too many drinks. last week, jordan davis was very excited about landing a job at mcdonald's. on friday night, his parents got the call that no parent can bear to e

go to trayvon martin, this recent michael dunn verdicts. it shows very clearly that veneer of great florida, the palm trees and beaches is starting to erode away under a correction system that is misplaced and that puts people in adult prisons, young people in adult prisons. when we say florida never loved us, when we say america never loved us, it's quite clear to us, and it has been quite clear to us that we live in a state that doesn't care about us. and so it's important that when we lay out our case against a state of florida that the state of florida understands that we have a common understanding, that we live in a state that has caused our education system to hemorrhage. we arrest more kids and put them in adult prisons than any other state. and so when tourists come here and they go to disney world and see a place where dreams come true, that's basically the only place in florida where that happens. and so florida never loved us. america never loved us is our clear proclamation that we have an understanding that we live in a state

a jury yesterday convicted michael dunn on three counts of attempted murder but could not reach a verdict-degree murder in the shooting death of jordan davis. but short of an appeal, dunn is still facing spending the rest of his life in prison. after the verdict, prosecutors discussed what's next. >> as far as we're concerned, we intend to retry him for second-degree murder. >> there is a 20-year minimum mandatory for each count. count five, the shooting or throwing deadly missiles is 15 years. >>> joining me now, lisa bloom, and author of "suspicion nation" as well as john burres, a former state prosecutor. i'm glad to have you both with me. we'll go ladies first here, lisa. can you explain in lehmaaymanla terms how a jury would find him guilty of three attempted murder charges but not for murder. and i've read about jury nullification. is that at all in play here? >> i don't think so. i think the jury split up this incident into two parts. the first part is probably the first seven shots which michael dunn shot at jordan davis and at the car. there's been a pause in the shooting. and th

questions and reopening wounds surrounding florida's stand your ground law. 47-year-old michael dunnd ten shots into an suv of teenagers, three of those shots killed 17-year-old jordan davis. dunn maintained he shot in self defense after seeing a gun. police never found the weapon. a multiracial jury of 12 people convicted dunn on three counts of attempted murder, but deadlocked on that top charge of premeditated first-degree murder. prosecutors say there will be a retrial. >> the issue here is a young man was killed, and the verdict doesn't address that at all. >> protesters turned out over the weekend to voice their outrage. the parents of jordan davis spoke out about the verdict and their son's killer. >> and we will continue to stand and we will continue to wait for justice for jordan. >> he's going to learn that he must be remorseful for the killing of my son. >> all of this as george zimmerman, who was acquitted in connection with the shooting and killing of trayvon martin is speaking out in a new interview, saying he's not comfortable being the face of the controversial stand

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the only person who ever said that he saw one was that of the accused here, michael dunn.pistol, ten shots into a car, several of which actually hit the victim here and killed him. and so the community is wanting to know, you know, is there in their sense sort of an unarmed -- i mean an open season on just if you feel threatened, you can take a gun and shoot, even at a car where, again, the police found no weapon and no evidence of a weapon. there have been some protesters outside. they have been out here for some time. but more i would say people are just watching it very closely through the internet, through twitter and of course right here on cable television to see if they can determine what the jury verdict is going to be and if it sits well with their perspective of what they think they know about this case, richard. >> kerry, thank you so much. nbc's kerry sanders with the very latest from jacksonville, florida. >>> take you now to an accident on the bobsled run that leaves an olympic worker injured. that tops our look at stories around the news nation. the worker w

the retrial of michael dunn. as both sides get ready for what could be a second murder trial, we're learning more about what dunn was thinking and saying while he was in jail. newly released phone calls and letters reveal some disturbing comments dunn made after he shot and killed jordan davis. dunn repeatedly says he fired in self-defense, and insisted he was the victim. here is part of one phone call to his fiancee. >> i'm the victim here. i was the one that was being preyed upon, and i fought back. >> right. >> and, then, you know, it's not quite the same, but it made me think of like the old tv shows and movies where, like, how the police used to think when a chick got raped. oh, it was her fault because of the way she was dressed. >> right. and i'm like -- so it's my fault because i asked them to turn their music down. >> he is comparing himself to a rape victim who was blamed for what happened? and that wasn't the only time he called himself a victim. >> you know, i was thinking about that today. i'm the [

michael dunn is charged with first degree murder for jordan davis' death.so charged with three counts of attempted murder for the three other passengers in the car. joining me now are larry hannan, a court reporter for the florida times union. he's been in the courtroom every day of the dunn trial. and mark thompson, host of "make it plain" on sirius xm radio. larry, was there anything that you could read in jury reaction to the testimony, the direct testimony of the -- from the witnesses, the kids in the car and that -- and the defendant taking the stand himself? >> lawrence, the jurors were really raptly listening to dunn throughout his testimony. it was a struggle to figure out what they thought they were watching. i saw a juror shake her head in disgust. it was after the fiancee left that they basically turned on dunn. she contradicted a lot of what dunn said on the stand. >> the key point being that he in the testimony, it emerges that he never told the girlfriend that jordan davis had a gun. he never said that to her with plenty of opportunities to do

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if michael dunn takes the witness stand the state can use those statements to cross examine him.nnot put those statements forth himself in lieu of him testifying. >> let me play another interrogation, michael dunn, the man charged with killing this young man, describes how things in his words began to get agitated and heated up. let's listen in. >> i don't know if they're singing or what, but it's like -- they're saying kill him. so i put my window down again. and i said, excuse me? are you talking about me? and it was like kill that [ bleep ]. and i'm still not reacting but this guy like goes down on the ground and comes up with something. i thought it was a shotgun. >> faith, he thought it was a shotgun, he says. there was never a gun found there. >> right. and that's going to be problematic for him. there was no shotgun found. there was nothing even resembling a shot gone found. i mentioned yesterday there was not a water gun, bb gun, nothing in that vehicle those kids could have held up and said -- where he could have said it's a shotgun. thinking that you see a gun and there

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and we're here to help start yours. >>> the florida judge presiding over the trial of michael dunn, the accused of killing an unarmed teenager is allowing journalists inside the courtroom today. but now the court is facing yet another legal hurdle, this time over phone calls dunn made while behind bars. journalists covering the trial are going before a magistrate today arguing recordings of dunn's calls should be released before opening arguments get under way. an appellate court has already agreed with them, but the state's attorney's office is pushing back saying it could take several weeks to review the recordings and remove personal information like social security numbers. they also want to charge more than $6,000 for the calls. meanwhile, jury selection wrapping up, opening statements could begin by the end of the week. dunn is charged with first agree murder in 17-year-old jordan davis' death. the two allegedly got finto a dispute over loud music. dunn maintains he was acting in self-defense. larry, thanks for joining us again. let move forwa let's move forward to the letters. th

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and an argument ensued between michael dunn and my son.y says, "you can't talk to me that way." he pulls his .9 millimeter gun out of his glove box, and he shot ten rounds into the car. and three of those bullets killed my son instantly. >> and i should say that nobody in the car that your son was traveling in was armed. is that right? >> absolutely. there were no guns, no alcohol. nothing of the nature that could be intimidating or threatening to anyone. >> congresswoman, since firearms are so ubiquitous in this country, do laws like stand your ground make sense if they actually encourage people to use their guns whenever they feel, quote, threatened? >> absolutely not, martin. i find it most interesting that the same people that consistently talk about people being accountable, taking responsibility for themselves, have now decided that there should be no standard of responsibility, no standard of accountability. if you are in a place where they think you can legally be. and just decide that someone is threatening you in some way. i mean

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michael dunn is charged with first-degree murder. he says the killing was in self-defense and that the teen threatened him with a gun. but so far no gun has been found. what this all comes down to is will the jury believe him. he claims there was a gun, but no one else testified to that. today in a riveting courtroom moment, he took the stand himself. for over three hours, he gave dramatic testimony, and at times he broke down, wiping away tears. here is what he says happened after he asked the teenagers in the suv to turn down their music. >> he says yeah, i'm going to [ bleep ] kill you. i look, and i'm looking at a barrel. he is showing me a gun, and he is threatening me. he said he was going to f-ing kill me. but after he opened the door, then he looked at me and said you're dead, [ bleep ]. >> were you still sitting there in shock? >> yes, i was. >> were you in fear for your life? >> i became even more fearful at that point. >> at that point, what did you believe was about to happen to you? >> i thought i was going to be killed.

after her son jordan davis was shot in 2012 by 47-year-old michael dunn following an argument about loud music at a jacksonville gas station. louis ya mcpath is here with us today. you are one of the few mothers who has had some measure of justice. but is it enough? >> absolutely it is not enough. in the climate we have with the gun culture, i believe the gun violence we see particularly happening in urban communities is the single most important social justice problem that we have in this country. and because i did receive some sense of justice and closure, it's not enough because there's so many more babies dying in the streets and people dying in the streets that will never receive justice. so now it is not enough. we have a lot more work to do. >> for me one of the hardest things that i've heard you say in this week or rather that i

the defendant, michael dunn, left the scene. he never called 911.say he wasn't being threatened, and he did check into a bed and breakfast, eat pizza, and was arrested the next morning. yet you have this stand your ground law there in florida. is the fact that this law is in the opinion of many of us so nebulous, does that stand up against all of this evidence that seems very well established by the prosecution? >> stand your ground allows cases like this to go forward because michael dunn argues he doesn't have a duty to retreat. he was being threatened and imminent force was about to be used against him. therefore he was able to open fire on these kids. and that's problem here, because without stand your ground, there is a duty to retreat. he could easily get into his car, back away if he thinks he is being threatened. but he didn't do that here. and that's why he is able to assert this defense. you're going hear it in the jury instructions. he didn't have a duty to retreat. he didn't have a duty to leave. he could meet force with force. the probl

michael dunn faces life in prison without parole.dan davis' parents said today's verdict is justice for their son. >> we know that jordan's life and legacy will live on for others. but at the same time, we're very saddened by the life that michael dunn will continue to live. we are saddened for his family and for his friends and the community that will continue to suffer by his actions. but we are very grateful that justice has been served. justice not only for jordan but justice for trayvon and justice for all the nameless faces and children and people that will never have a voice. >> i wanted jacksonville to be a shining example that you could have a jury made up of mostly white people, white men, to be an example to the rest of the world to stop the discriminatory practices, stop discriminating, stop looking where we have to look at juries and say what the makeup of juries are. i want to give my heart and my prayers to all the mothers and fathers out there that have lost children. that got no justice. >> joining now the host of "t

i wish i had a time machine i would have parked there. >> it was me or him, says michael dunn. in that conversation, dunn seemed convinced that the self-defense laws were on his side. >> i have high confidence that it will work out. even if it goes to trial, i'm not a monster. i mean, that's important to me that you know that. >> maybe dunn was confident that it would work out. because of how broadly the self-defense law protects the use of deadly force. at his trial, the jury instructions read, quote, the danger to michael dunn need not have been actual, as long as he believed that the danger was real, and he had no duty to retreat. so the danger didn't have to be real. he only had to believe it was real, and he had no obligation to retreat from this imaginary danger? what kind of law is that? there are now 25 states with stand your ground laws on the books. and now in florida, the state where it all began, they're actually trying to expand it. a house committee just approved a bill that would expand the law to include the threat of force, not just the use of force itself. supp

right now that trial set to begin in september. 46-year-old michael dunn is charged with first degree murder in the shooting death last november of jordan davis an unarmed african-american teen the same age as martin was. it happened the day after thanksgiving at a gas station convenience store in jacksonville, florida. dunn and his girlfriend pulled up in their vehicle next to one with four teens in it. while his girlfriend was inside the store dunn told the teens to turn down their music. of a an exchange of words dunn began swhoogt a handgun firing eight or nine shots. dunn is charged with first degree murder in jordan davis' death and faces three counts of attempted first degree murder for shooting at the three others in the vehicle. now dunn has pleaded not guilty claiming he heard threats from the teens and saw a gun in their car. he says he feared for his own safety and that's yes grand his gun and fired. no gun was found in the teens' vehicle. joining me live now attorney john phillips who represents jordan davis' family. thanks for being with us. do you see parallels here bet

after four days of deliberation, michael dunn on trial for the november, 2012, killing of 17-year-oldempted murder for firing ten shots into an suv full of teenagers after a dispute over the volume of the music they were playing. while dunn was also found guilty of the lesser charge of firing into an occupied car, the judge drayer eed -- declared a mistri when the jury was unable to come to a decision on the top count of first-degree murder which applies only to the death of jordan davis. dunn's sentencing hearing is expected to take place next month. state attorney angela corey said that her office plans to retry dunn on the first-degree murder charge. jordan davis' mother voiced her gratitude and her disappointment saturday night. >> we're so grateful for the truth. we're so grateful that the jurors were able to understand the common sense of it all. and we will continue to stand, and we will continue to wait for justice for jordan. >> jordan davis would have turned 19 years ode yesterday. for more on the verdict and fallout, i'm joined by criminal defense and civil rights attorney

so michael dunn has been on the stand, he had to to claim self against. although i have to say he has stuck to his story that he felt threatened, that he saw a gun, he has stuck to that on cross-examination. the biggest problem he has, no begun w gun was ever found. >> how does he come across to you as a witness? >> i think he comes across pretty well. he's an intelligent guy, he's reviewed all of the evidence. he even argues ballistics in the case because they do not support his story that jordan davis got out of the car and was threatening him. so i think he's had a lot of time to review all the evidence. but he sticks to his central story. and for the jury to believe him, they have to believe that the youngsters in that car threw away the gun and that the police never found it. i think that is a tough story for the jury to have to believe. >> lisa bloom, thanks as always. >>> in the past hour, president obama and french president hollande wrapped up that sweeping joint news conference at the white house in the east room where president hollande is maki