several families told us they wanted to spare other families the frustrations they endured. some have created new organizations to support families like theirs such as the moral foundation for steven satlaugh, who wrote everyone has two lives, the second begins when you realize you only have one. as a government and as a nation we can learn from the example and strength of their lives. the kind of strength we have seen in all of these held hostages including kayla mueller, you know. kayla devoted her life to serving those in need around the world, to refugees in syria who lost everything. she was a source of comfort and hope before her tragic death she was held by isil in syria for a year and a half and during her captivity she managed to smuggle a letter to her family. she said none of us could have known it would be this long but i know i'm also fighting for my side? the ways i am able and i have a lot of fight left in me i am not breaking down and i will not give in no matter how long it takes. today my message to anyone that harms mefrns is we do not forget. our reach is

that family, finding a family, notifying that family is important. >> thank you for that response.we talked earlier in the legislation that we've introduced, senator baldwin, senator stevan oh and myself, abenow and myself, wanting where try to do is great a standard, a national standard, for what is therapeutic foster care because our sense is that each state does it a little differently. my question to you is, how can a uniform definition of therapy to foster care services promote better quality of care and also more accountability in the training of staff in foster care parents? does that make sense? if you could maybe, mr. nyby and ,iss williamson, or ms. killett give us a response to that quickly, but if you don't mind sending me a written response, that would be helpful. look at the legislation and tell us what you think about this idea of coming up with the uniform definition. a uniform have definition, but i would like to say that i would like to follow up with a written response because i think it is worth and to a lot of thought to give you that information. >> that would

meet the family that inspired the hit film. >> the movie, obviously thrust your family into the limelight. what parallels between the movie and your family are real? >> the main theme of the film is accurate. and pick out a few inaccuracies and correct them >>> this old hospital building was home to 8-year-old relisha. >> her kidnapping shed light. >> we failed in our responsibilities to this child. >>> thanks for joining us, i'm joie chen. here in the nation's capital city we connect most often with power, and the powerful. we are reminded of our vulnerable citizens, the ones our leaders are supposed to protect, children. homeless children. it's been a year since that video was recorded. the last view of relisha rudd, a homeless child walking away with a man she thought was a friend. the mystery of her disappearance and the back story is a sharp indictment of this power city. lori jane gliha has been investigating the last steps before relisha rudd became a little girl lost. >> reporter: this old hospital building was one home for relisha and her mother. >> it's a mess, to be honest with

we are not a tv family. we are a family that happened to be on tv. we have been through a lot together. i think our viewers have seen that even just the journeys our family has taken. it has not always been easy on television. we still allowed the filming to take place and allowed people to see our struggle see things we have gone through from my little sister being born premature and funerals and stuff. i think this is another struggle that we are going through right now, another hard time but i think it's bringing our family even closer together. >> definitely. >> and we will make it through this too. >> joining me now host of "media buzz." so i know many people believe this cancellation was intevitable. what do you think? >> it was absolutely inevitable. a suspension was never going to cut it. the duggar brand had become radioactive despite the best efforts to rehabilitate themselves and that causes advertisers to head for the hills and once that happens your show is toast. >> was there ever a shot for the show to survive given the fact that most

good, bad, or ugly with the floyd family, the taylor family, the andersons and all. even when we don't get the perfect turnout we get, we got a victory today that a police officer's never been in jail in chicago but they put the first guy away. he only got three years but he was the first. and we show there's a layer of criminalism in there, then they can go after other ones now and get more years on other people. >> bottom line, do you see today as a win? >> bro, i'm taking the day as a win. i'm here to support the floyd family. they're not stellar, they're not throwing stuff in the air, but i promise you tonight the killer of their son, their brother, their loved one is going to jail, not for the time he should be that i think he should or anybody else. but they got some type of victory today. we came here to support them, and anybody supporting the floyd family should be happy for them right now. >> justin, thank you so much for taking the time, justin. i appreciate it. let me -- so as we talk about the sentence moving forward, we'll hear from the attorney general

this guy thinks that because the families are homeless they have no power and just because a family iscrisis doesn't mean you should be making millions of dollars off of me. >> the cost of living has sky rocketed do you know what i mean and i have to pay utilities and i have two kids and i have to food. do you know how much the city pays for that? >> our budget letter shows that which is basically like what they pay for our rent, pretty much like the break down. >> the money that is used and public assistance is paying for us to stay here that can be live. >> i'm sure you know how much the city is paying to house families in crisis. >> yeah. >> reporter: this is ryan and ten months ago she and her family applied for shelter, the apartment. >> so what is this? >> the budget letter. >> reporter: every month she receive as budget letter from the city. is this how much money the city is paying your landlord? >> for this apartment. >> yes. >> $2700. >> 27, 3750 and that is a lot of money, do you think the artment is worth it? >> no way. >>> 115 open code violations. that is an average of fi

i googled 'family shelters.' [yes baby] i googled it. >> was this your first time in the shelter system? >> yeah. >> what's this little guy's name? >> this is josiah grub. say hi josiah. >> how old are you josiah? >> three. >> so where are you sleeping? >> man wherever they place us. >> you come in they'll put you on a ten-day placement. and then they'll be like okay you're either denied or approved. >> and if you're denied? >> if you're denied, you have to come back and do the process all over again. >> and that's what you're doing now? >> for the third time. >> new york city has an obligation to provide shelter to all individuals who are homeless. because of that tradition, new york city has the largest public shelter system in the united states. >> patrick markee is one of new york's leading advocates for the homeless. >> the cost of shelter is exorbitant. the city now spends more than a billion dollars a year just in shelter and emergency services for homeless people. >> today new york operates over 250 homel

as i said to the families who are gathered here today and as i've said to families in the past, i look not just as a president but also as a husband and a father. and if my family were at risk obviously i would move heaven and earth to get those loved ones back. as president, i also have to consider our larger national security. i firmly believe that the united states government paying ransom to terrorists risks endangering more americans and funding the very terrorism that we're trying to stop and so i firmly believe that our policy ultimately puts fewer americans at risk. at the same time, we are clarifying that our policy does not prevent communication with hostage takers by our government, the families of hostages or third parties who help these families. and when appropriate, our government may assist these families and private efforts in those communications. in part to ensure the safety of the family members and to make sure they're not defrauded. so my message to these families was simple. we're not going to abandon you, we will stand by you. second, we're making changes to ens

you know every family has things happen in the families.ome families maybe have darker things than others. everybody deals with -- >> what the critics are going for is that you shouldn't have been preaching about moral values when you had a secret like this in your own family that you should be calling other people sinners, when you yourselves are sinners. >> our son violated god's principles doing some improper touch touching. that was terrible. yet i think it's been recently said what josh did was in inexcusable but it was not unforgivable. >> of all the charges we hear from the duggar critics, the most common complaint is that the family are hypocrites saying duggars have no right to condemn others for alleged immorality when admittedly immoral acts happened under their own roof and they knew it. robert zimmerman is one of the folks who feels that way. is that right? do you? >> first and foremost congratulations on an important interview. it really started a very critical national debate most important importantly. this is not a democrat

these are nine families struggling. this is a state hurt by the fact that nine people innocently were killed. we absolutely want him to have the death penalty. this is the worst case i and the country have seen for a long time. we will fight this as hard as we can. >> vigils have been held around the country for the victims and their loved ones. these scenes in philadelphia have been repeated around the country with more planned as the religious community comes together. the latest live from andy gallagher who is live in charleston for us. we have learned more about the suspect and his possible motivations for this attack. >> reporter: dylann roof is expected to appear in court via video link. one of the interesting things we are hearing is he told investigators he almost didn't carry out the shooting. he entered the church wednesday night and sat with that prayer group for a full hour before the shooting happened. he said they were simply so nice to him he had second thoughts. obviously that doesn't change the nature o

jacob blake and his family. present with us is his family.ather jacob blake sr., his mother julia jackson, his brothers and sisters, sons, cousins, a large black family unit, who all stand united in prayer for jacob blake to recover from this brutal use of excessive force, once again, on an african-american that was captured on video, and that is just shocking and outrageous and devastating. devastating to all of us. but mostly devastating to his three little boys who were seated in the car when the police literally shot him at least seven times at point-blank range. before we begin, because this is a very faithful family, we are going to begin with prayer. and then the attorneys will give you the updates on his medical condition and the action that we are demanding legally. and then you will hear from his parents, his sisters, both latedra, meghan, and zyetha. and then we will take some of your questions. but first we will start with pastor james boyd jr. to lead us in prayer. >> thank you, attorney crump. good afternoon, everyone. my name i

let's say to this family, we are here to stay. say it for the family, please, with some love.d finally this, members of congress have the privilege of having flags flown over the capitol. we do it for important occasions, important people. but i want you to know this. i had this flag flown over the capitol because i want the united states of america to respect george floyd. that's why this flag was flown. i want the united states of america to show him the respect that he richly earned simply because he was born in this country because he's a human being and because he is not expendable. that's why this flag was flown. and i have a resolution that will be presented to the family. and this resolution will become a part of the records of the congress of the united states of ameri america. this resolution is going to say to those who look through the vista of time that at this time there lived one among us who was a child of god who was taken untimely, but we are going to make sure that those who look through time, that they will know that he made a difference within his time bec

big families for god and many families say quiverful has helped them to find happiness but others havet quiverful, saying it is a system with abuse. we begin with one of the most prominent voices in quiverful. >> children is the fruit of the world the womb is his reward and you know what can't even read it because my bible is so well worn. >> very tattered there you have read this verse so long. >> yes. >> nancy campbell has been quivering for years. the mother of ten children, six biological and four adopted. to explain the christian lifestyle called quiverful she turns to psalm 127 in her well read bible. >> as arrows in the hand of a mighty man so are children of the youth. then it goes on to say, happy is the man who has his quiver liking it to the war when they went out with they're bows and arrows, blessed is the man who has his quiver full of them. they shall not be ashamed. because they will have children who they have raised to be mighty young men and women of god, and speak truth and justice and wisdom. now, isn't that a great blessing for the nation? >> who are the enemies n

as i said to the families who were gathered here today, i said that families in the past -- i look at this as a husband and president and father. if my family were at risk, i would move heaven and earth to get those loved ones back. as president, i also have to consider our larger national security. i firmly believe that the united states government paying ransom to terrorists risks endangering more americans and funding the very terrorism we are trying to stop. and so i firmly believe that our , policy ultimately puts fewer americans at risk. at the same time, we are clarifying that our policy does not prevent communication with hostage takers by our government, the families of hostages, or third parties who help these families. and when appropriate, our government may assist these families and private efforts in those communications. in part to ensure the safety of family members and to make sure they are not defrauded. so, my message to these families is simple -- we aren't going to abandon you. we will stand by you. second, we are making changes to ensure our government is better

you know, every family has things happen in the family.have darker things than ors, but everyone deals with something. >> what about, what the critics are going for is you should not have been preaching moral values when you have a secret like this in your family that you should not be calling other people sinners when you yourselves are sinners. >> my son violated god's principals of doing in appropriate touching. that was terrible but yet, i think it has been recently said that what josh did was inexcusable inexcusable, but it was not unforgivable. >> mike huckabee said that. he is a friend of the family. michelle you were in the news making a robo-call that suggested transgender people may want to go to the locker rooms of girls and that they may be child molesters. folks have used that in the past week against you saying how could you unfairly in their view compare transgender people to child molesters and suggest they are child molesters knowing what you know about josh? >> i think that protecting young girls and not allowing young me

family. we have yet to see katherine jackson, joe jackson, or any of michael jackson's brothers here. we do have the actual invitation that went out to close friends of the family who would be attending tonight inviting them to come along. it's a beautiful invitation about nine pages long. if you take a look just on the inside you can see there's some pictures of michael jackson from his earlier days at neverland ranch and also some beautiful pictures of him when he was just a young boy, as well. so that is what's happening out here on the street. the roads are all closed off along here for at least two or three blocks so you're not really seeing any members of the public. there's a few people who have come out of their homes but other than that they are being kept back and right now it is just the media camped out waiting for the family to arrive than very long awaited service to begin. >> randi, approximately where are you? where is the entrance in relation to what we're seeing on the left-

they just love families.ut, you know, you all know what they mean when they talk about family values. what they are saying is women in america should not be able to control their own bodies. i disagree. [applause] what they are saying in their concept of family values is that women are too dumb to be able to buy the contraceptive they need. i disagree. what they are also saying in their understanding of family values is that are gay brothers and sisters should not be able to get married and enjoy all of the benefits of american citizenship. i disagree. [applause] i am very fortunate to have four kids, seven grandchildren. jane and i have been married for 27 years. [applause] we believe, we believe in family and we believe in strongly protecting the needs of families, but my family values are a little bit different than republican family values. [applause] when i talk about family values, i believe that the united states must end the international embarrassment of being the only, only major country on earth th

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. >>> plus the duggar family bombshell. tlc now pulling the hit show" 19 kids and counting" after the oldest son admits he molested girls, including his own siblings. >>> kim jong-un's broth spotted at an eric clapton's concert singing "i shot the sheriff." let's go outfront. >>> good evening, i'm erin burnett. we begin with breaking news. police at this moment looking for more suspects in the gruesome washington, d.c. mansion murders. according to a new court document that we've obtained investigators believe the main suspect, daron wint did not act alone when he allegedly bound, tortured and murdered a high profile couple wur their then-year-old son and a housekeeper. now this revelation coming just as the suspect appeared in court today. you're looking at a pick chufr of what he looked like wearing a white prison outfit hands and feet shackled, head down, no emotion shown whatsoever according to our reporter there. wint was captured last night in washington after an intense manhunt that stretched to new york. also tonigh

noah's family wanted to bury letters from family members.usin ethan lives in seattle, he made a card for noah. the problem is getting it to connecticut in time for the funeral. on sunday, ethan's mom took to twitter asking for help. message from jetblue airline. we're sorry for your loss, please give us your phone number. we'll have someone reach out to you. his cousin's letter made it to connecticut to be buried with noah. ethan's mom shared the card on twitter. she wrote, noah represents life. inside it says i love you, noah. joining us is alexei haller. noah pozner's uncle. thank you for joining us. what do you want everybody to know about noah? >> well, noah is a great kid. smart as a whip. bit of a maverick. >> mischievous, i heard. >> mischievous. loved his family more than anything else. when his mom would say i love you, noah would respond, not as much as i love you. he loved his siblings, too. he had a twin sister. >> they were very close. >> extremely close. as babies they would babble from their cribs, all sorts of trouble, insepa

he has his own family. the girls are saying this is just like breaking a scab off a wound that has been healed and why are we revictimizing these girls. >> the church hasn't always been perfect in the treatment of pedophiles has it? while pastoral counseling can be tremendously valuable i'm not sure it is a proper way to address pedophilia. this is a family that turned their family in to a side show and invited cameras in to their lives in a way that exploited their children and made money from them. where's the wonderful family that the pastor is describing? >> pastor? >> i will tell you where it is. >> yeah where is it. >> let me tell you, they love their girls more than any of us on this panel do and certainly more than the left do and i'm tired of the hypocrisy. >> this isn't a political issue. i'm a conservative. >> it is. >> no it sglnt there are people who hate the values of the duggars. >> i wouldn't turn my family in to a reality show. that's my values. >> that's your judgment. that's their choice

you are family. not a business.re a family. >> you are here in california now, luxurious home. you collect this on a material level, badges of great success that you enjoy with you and your family. do you have peace of mind? did you lose peace of mind getting to where you got to? >> no. because we have always known that this is just an illusion. success is nothing. it is what you share with one another as a family. it is like to prove my point, michael was loved by so many people. during the trial the whole world is accusing him of child molestation and saying the most horrible things. all this stuff happened and at the end of the day, what has true value? seeing his family there and supporting him. all this material stuff. it has no value at all. i mean, he is gone. he can't take neverland with him, the catalog, nothing. >> michael was a contrary figure. i interviewed him once. he had a very gentle and sweet voice. talking about his family and children. i talked to him about business, it was like his voice dropped

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. >> see the love amongst that family. we go now to washington, d.c., for special coverage of the state funeral of president george h.w. bush. ♪ >>> right now, you're looking at live pictures out of joint base andrews, where hundreds of u.s. service members, they are already gathered. they're awaiting, they're waiting to pay their respects to the former president of the united states, george h.w. bush. we want to welcome you to our special cnn coverage. o i'm wolf blitzer along with my colleague jake tapper. today begins the first official day of mourning for the 41st president of the united states. here at the u.s. capitol, former president george h.w. bush will lie in state after the first service remembering his life and service to the nation. >> in just minutes, we expect special air mission 41, that's the plane carrying the late president and his family from houston, to land at joint base andrews, right outside of washington, d.c., where that crowd has gathered. from there, a motorcade will take them all to the capito

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>> for all the families, yes, and for the sense of family.ike, in the pediatric aids community, when most of children were fostered or being raised by grandparents or friends and that kind of thing. i mean, it really created a home base for them, you know? and a lot of these camps are the same way. >> the taylor family foundation's budget for a camp a year runs about $1.2 million. >> we have a fundraising side of the house and a program side of the house. and so we get a lot of in-kind, which is huge for a program. and then we do urgent need, which are children and families that have an immediate medical crisis or an immediate family crisis that they could lose their apartment because they can't pay rent, or can't pay their insurance premium. so we spend a lot of our money on our programs and on our kids. but then we try and save some money, so the goal is to get us self-sustaining so we don't have to work quite as hard at fundraising. and i always have said, "can you imagine what we could do if we didn't have to fund-raise?" i always think o

he sent him to a family. god sent him amid a family, in a family. and he could do this because it was a family that this a truly open heart. the doors of the heart opened. he couldn't believe it. how can this happen. but when they explained it to her, he finds himself in a surprising situation that he doesn't understand. and he accepts, obeys and in obedience love is born. he loved that man, mary and joseph. there is a family to which jesus is born. >> god plans that our hearts be open. it comes out from him. do you know what he likes most. to knock on the doors ever families. and to find families who love each other. families who bring up their children to grow and help them move forward, to develop society, a truth, goodness and beauty. [ clapping ] >> we are celebrating the feast of the family. families have a citizenship which is difficult sign. the identity card that they have is given to them by god. so that within the heart of the family, truth, goodness and beauty can truly grow. some of you might say, of course, father, you speak like that

the families are wanting answers. the families are walking out of -- walked out of one press conference. we're hearing from family members more now. they're wanting to get in front of cameras because they want their voices heard. and we're learning new information about radar data. maybe not enough. about the safety of that airplane. maybe not enough. we are learning collectively all of us here in the united states and around the country those of us who are tuned in to cnn around the country more about aviation than we have learned probably over the course of our lives. especially being in that simulator with our reporter over the past couple weeks. from all of our analysts and experts here on cnn. we have to keep top of mind the 239 people onboard that plane and their family members who are in grief now and have no finality to this situation. that's why we continue to cover this and will until we find something out to help those families. i'm don lemon. cnn special report "flight 370: the final hours" begins right no

boost our families does a survey every year of military families.ast year we had about 5100 responds and they echo exactly what you are saying here uncertainty in military life child care moves, these are all the things that impact spouse employment which is a huge -- has a huge financial impact on military families especially if you are at the low end of these pay grades. if your spouse is not employed and you talked about the 30% unemployment rate among military spouses, that compares to about an 8% unemployment rate among normal civilians as a whole. so you know, it's a much higher rate and, you know, that has an impact on what families if in their pocketbooks. >> military families have more than $10,000 in debt is 27%, compared to 16% in the regular population. is this an issue of financial ill illiteracy, or having one spouse working? to what do you attribute this? >> i think you can definitely -- we're kind of hitting the nail on the head. in this day and age you do need both spouses working. you can't really depend on one income anymore. and

you're a family, not a business. you're a family. >> we're here in california now. beautiful home. very luxurious. amazing stuff you've collected on a material level. the badges of great success that you've enjoyed with you and your family. but do you have peace of mind? did you lose peace of mind getting to where you got to? >> no, because we've always known that this is just an illusion. success is nothing. it's what you share with one another as a family. it's like -- to prove my point, michael was loved by so many people and during the trial, the whole world was accusing him of child molestation and saying the most horrible things. and all this stuff happened, and at the end of the day, what has true value is seeing his family there supporting him. all this material stuff has no value at all. i mean, he's gone. he can't take neverland with him, the catalog, nothing. he left a lot of good deeds. >> michael was a contrary figure. i interviewed him once and he had a very gentle, sweet voice when talking about his family and children and so on. when i talked to him

not many of them, they will be with their families.o for me it's very important to show them that the president and i, and the country, we are behind them. >> sean: you know what's amazing, we are on the uss george h.w. bush, who recently passed away. they put as many as 5,000 people on this ship. i was watching you as you are watching the jets come in and out. if we tipped it over it would be the size of the empire state building. what did you think when you see this? >> it's incredible. even when i flew over here, you see the ship, it's very small and then you are approaching and it's really big. it was great to meet some of them who serve here. now today there are 3,000 servicemen and women on it. >> sean: right now. >> right now. and i saw the airplanes taking off and landing and it's incredible what they do. >> sean: the cost of freedom is high. we forget sometimes, don't we? >> mrs. trump: correct. >> sean: i watched you as you worked the rope line, as you spoke with the families. it seemed to me that they cling to you and they w

if in the family dynamic you have an honor-based system. what that means is, the family place more importance on the concept of honor, how they are viewed by other people, the community, than their child. >>(vo) so, what exactly is the honor system that would drive a father to hunt down his own daughter to kill her? >>what we're talking about is power and control. we're talking about men, invariably men, uh, who want to control the behavior of women in their families, women in their communities. and, in order to control them they often use threats and violence when they think it necessary. the worst cases involve homicide. there's something like a dozen a year in this country, several thousand around the world. >>(vo) a recent un report suggested the vast majority of honor killings occurred in bangladesh, pakistan and india. >>(voice of captain) ladies and gentlemen, welcome to (indistinct) international airport, dakar. >>(vo) we went to bangladesh to investigate. it's early evening in dakar, and we receive a call telling us to go to the ci

there were family members there. some of the children were only 2 3, 4 years old when their dads were killed on that street in miami-dade. three of the men that survived the fight were there and gave rendition of how brave those men were and how they gave their lives. and a congresswoman stood up and in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building. now she took care of her constituents because she got the money and just called up president obama and on that phone call he gave the money, the $20 million to build a building and she sat down. and we were stunned. stunned that she had done it. even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned. but none of us went to the press and criticized. none of us stood up and were aballed. we just said okay, fine. so i still hope as you write your stories and i appeal to america that let's not let this maybe last thing that's held sacred in our s

as many chinese families want proof that the committee representing the families accused the malaysianauthorities of a cover up. if our 154 relatives aboard lost their lives due to such reasons, then the malaysian airlines and government are the real murderers that killed them. >> you talked about how in grief counseling there has to be a starting point and that is knowing what happened. were the families given that starting point today? >> i don't think they quite got it. i think there are a couple of reasons. one is over the last two or three days it has been quiet in the hotel. you can tell most people were not as interested in all the little pieces of news or rumor or information as they were before. they were just basically waiting for the one final definitive answer. and you have the feeling that everybody is bracing for impact. and today when it came, unfortunately, it came as a technical conclusion based on things that they -- the people could not understand and given from a source that they do not quite trust. so most of the people they didn't want to accept it. i think that's

within the family.it can be daunting and stigmatizing. the army and military have a strong social safety yet, and we do everything we can to protect them from some of the predatory ledgers -- lenders out there, but my wife is a veteran, she transitioned out, working with the va to get gi bill benefits and getting the resume ready and getting out to job fairs, it can be overwhelming. >> waj and i, debra were talking about this yesterday. we both feel like we have been seeing more commercials and hearing more radio spots pushing to higher veterans focusing on their vast array of ability in the work force. are you noticing more of that as well and is it making any sort of measurable difference? >> yeah i think a lot of companies are recognizing the value of hiring veterans and what they bring to the workplace, and there is also a movement to hire military spouses, and i think when service members are in the military they learn leadership skills. they learn how to make decisions without all of the informati

every family has things happen in the families. families may have darker things than others but everybody deals with something. >> what the critics are going for is that you shouldn't have been preaching about moral values when you had a secret like this in your own family that you should be calling other people sinners when you yourselves are sinners. >> our son violated god's principles from doing some improper touching. that was et i think it's been recently said that what josh did was inexcusable but it was not unforgivable. >> like huckabee said that. i know he's a friend of your family. michelle let me ask you, because you were in the news for making a robocall that suggested transgender people might want to go into the bathrooms of girls -- locker rooms of girls and that they may be child month molesters molesters. folks have used that in the past week against you s how could you unfairly in their view compare transgender people to child molesters, knowing what you know about josh? >> i think that protecting young girls and

it should have been on those families and not the defendant's family. >> the family spoke. again, that was the thing that was so moving about this. they spoke offering forgiveness, offering love. i mean it was incredibly hard to hear it. it's like you wanted to hear them be angry, because you wanted to be angry for them. the forgiveness was more painful. will that impact his punishment? >> reporter: i don't think it will impact his punishment. i think that anyone that heard that erin anyone watching and listening and everyone really is watching and listening, as far as i can tell have been so affected by that message. i myself felt like crying. i think though that it was the appropriate message. this town really needs that. large hearts these people have. people of faith, families of faith. forgiveness is a significant part of this community that i wasn't necessarily surprised that they said i forgive you. but i don't know that i could be that person. i don't know if i could be that person. >> i think maybe that's what was painful about it is you realize how incredible they

they want to hold families for indefinitely and sort of family jail indefinitely.t appears that they're saying if you don't give us that, we're going to go back to separating parents and kids. but i can't imagine they're going to do that. am i wrong, am i misread tag document. >> no, i think the argument that they're laying out and you're not wrong at all, the argument they're laying out is we don't keep them indefinitely. we will be forced to separate them because that's the only way that we can carry out this law. but as larella knows, there are alternatives to detention. heard one of your previous guests talk about that. you can do ankle monitors, have people call. they've found if you assign a case manager, it's much more likely that people come back to court. there have been studies done on that. the argument they'relying out probably won't fly. we fellow the judge, judge gee is the one who came out strong when she interpreted this 1997 flores agreement to apply to what the obama administration was doing in 2016 when they were holding women and children past a

and, you know, family lore, family legend, family grudges, family fights about money, you know, take it for what it is. but the reporting on this particular family's fortune and the reporting on the family tax schemes and the reporting on whether or not the president and his family engaged in a massive and potentially ongoing federal tax fraud that is the real source of the president's purported fortune, and his purported fortune is the entire basis of his political persona. well, that stuff is not family lore. that is real solid reporting. and we now know, per mary trump's book, we now know by her own account that she was a major source for that reporting that won the pulitzer prize in "the new york times." you know, so screw over your family members for years and decades. and, sure, maybe it's all fun for you and profit in the short term. but it's all fun and profit until that family member you've been screwing over for years and decades finally decides to open the door to a really good reporter who is standing there on their doorstep. and that part of the story and that really goo

>> and the jackson family behind closed doors. >> the crap and garbage that's been written about my family for so many years and all these other books that were unauthorized and people saying things that didn't know us. >> jermaine jackson the primetime exclusive. this is "piers morgan tonight." ♪ >>> let me start with the imminent trial of conrad murray, dr. conrad murray. obviously, hugely significant for you and your family and for the world, to try to discover if through the process of this trial, we work out what really happened to your brother, michael. as we approach the start of this trial, what are your feelings? >> my feelings are, as well as the family, the truth will come out. it's something we've been long awaited for. and it's up to the point now where it's been a lot of speculation and hearsay, but i think that we're all going to -- it's not going to bring closure but it will give us a clear understanding of what really happened. i think it's important that the fans and the public as well as ourselves, need to know what really happened. what took place. there's so many thing

anot just famous families but regular families. >> here's my thing. i hold them to a higher standard for the fact that they hold them selves to a higher standard. they were the ones talking about incest should be punishable by you being dead. they put themselves in a moral place to be a light to others and yet in reality, in their own world, they were covering it up to keep the brand alive. >> that's what you all do. that's what gops do all the time. >> wait one a at a time. >> first of all, i never said. >> ben, let him make his point and then you can respond. >> all i'm saying is this is claksz gop play book. you say gay people go to hel -- >> no i don't. >> not you, ben. i said republicans. there's more than one republican in the world, unfortunately. >> and most of them don't say that. >> what i'm saying is many of the same people who shame gay people often times they themselves are gay. many people who talk about people operating outside of their marriage they cheat on their spouses. this isn't an isolated case. >> that happens with democrats as