our guest is world renown conductor zubin mehta. people who are unfamiliar with the music world, explain your role. >> well, a lot is communication. i have the good fortunate at this point in my life, to make music as with soloists that i know for years and years or young soloists who i have auditioned and i choose to introduce. with both i work privately. the rehearsals and see what they have to say. how much i have to be flexible and flexibility musically speaking is very important. for the soloist to be flexible but mostly, for myself. so i have to be flexible. but you know, we are both free-thinking, free -- we supply in space together. and it's not as complicated as it sounds. >> there are some music critics who have suggested that with some conductors, not necessarily including you but some conductors that the dramatic arm movements according to these critics says more about the conductor tapconductor's ego thr responsibility. >> murveg is what you hear not -- music is what hear knot what you see. >> many holocaust survivors r

people believe what they want to believe. >> bergman: it was kahr who came up with the ideas and mehta who implemented them, and their innovations would help change the nature of the credit card business. so, providian wasn't alone. >> absolutely not. they may have started it and maybe were the innovators ofov these bad practices, but they certainly were quickly adopted by everyone else once they started seeing the profit margins. >> bergman: robert mckinley is a credit card analyst who followed the rise of providian. >> i mean, here they were giving away products with no fee and charging interest rates and making a ton of money. and so, "hey, let's do it, too." and so, you know, it's... it quickly spread throughout the... the entire industry. >> bergman: one of the many providian practices that spread was making people believe their credit cards were free by eliminating the then-standard annual fee. >> we made it look like it's a giveaway, and took it back in the form of... i used to use the word "penalty pricing" or "stealth pricing." >> bergman: so, the competition... increase in co

judge mehta saying congress "had a job to do, and you made it harder." but navarro, after the hearing, was still defiant even as he was heckled outside of the courthouse. >> this is a case of first impressions that i have said from day one is destined for the supreme court. >> reporter: navarro was utterly dismissive of the january 6th committee, refusing to testify and never providing the committee a single document. he claimed he was protected by executive privilege. but the judge said there was "no evidence" trump "ever uttered the words executive privilege." mehta said navarro should have known of the "consequences" >>> to the economy tonight, the nation's gdf outpacing expectations. president biden today in wisconsin on the news. >> thanks to the american people, america is the strongest growth, the lowest inflation rate of any major economy in the world. >> the white house pointing out it comes amid new record highs in the stock market. >>> when we come back in philadelphia, the urgent manhunt for an escaped teenage murder suspect. police put out n

times political writer seema mehta. seema mehta had covered harris extensively during her tenure as california a.g. long before she was a national figure, long before she became a household name in the senate. and now, as of tonight, a member of the 2020 democratic presidential ticket. joining us now is l.a. times political writer seema mehta. thank you for joining us. it's nice to have you here. >> thank you for having me on. >> so this isn't exactly like winning the journalism lottery, i know, especially because it comes with no money. but it is a special form of kind of journalistic either foresight or luck when somebody you've been covering since before anybody knew them ends up in a position of national prominence. i have to ask you if there was any foresight there on your part, if you knew that she was going places or if this was just lucky that you were on that beat. >> i mean i think people in california -- and not just me. i mean obviously political reporters across california have known for quite a long time t

i have some of the great, great musicians to conduct. >> rose: indictments in washington and zubin mehta when we continue. >> rose: funding 230r charlie rose is provided by the following. bank of america, life better connected. >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: we begin this evening with indictments in washington. president trump's former campaign chairman paul man a fort and long time associate rick gates were indicted by a grand jury on a series of charges including money laundering and a conspiracy againstjf the united states. it was also papadopoulos a former campaign official pled guilty to making false statements and admitted he lied about hisxd9 with a russian professor who he knew to have contact with russian officials. mr. manafort and mr. gates surrendered to the fbi on monday and subsequently pled not guilty to all charges. president trump through a spokesperson said today's action had zero to to do the white house.

mehta ] honey, touch of brown sugar, crunchy clusters -- any cardboard?dboard no, delicious yes. so where's the fiber? maybe it's in the honey clusters. [ male announcer ] fiber one. cardboard no, delicious yes. chris: welcome back. howard, tell me something i don't know. >> we've been focusing on the presidential campaign. but democrats are increasingly worried about the senate races in 2012. the republicans are going to clean up it looks like. net eight to 10 pickups -- chris: in the senate. >> in the senate. which means if they hold the house, and they get a senate that's veto proof which is possible, whoever gets elected president, even if it's president obama, is going to be dealing with a truly co-equal branch. chris: they can get 67 seats in the senate? >> they can overcome the filibuster. chris: wow. katty. >> a college education in the u.k., chris, costs about $45,000 at one of our top universities. that is less than half of a college education here in the u.s. at a private college. i'm thinking -- chris: that's for four years. here it's that muc

we talk we have gedin, larsson's editor and sonny mehta, the editor-in-chief of knopf. >> all three of us knew we had something really good on our hands and it was amazing because it was... he hadn't written fiction before. he had written non-fiction. and, i mean, there's quite seldom you get a landscape that is so well written. you could see that he was a very mature writer. he was a writer. >> whatever's going on is going on everywhere as far as i can make out and the eminent peruvian writer said... he said that when he came across these books, he read them with the same total fascination as he read duma and hugo and dickens. he said he turned the pages as fast as he was turning them... as he remembered turning them then with a sense of absolute anticipation. it's the story. it's the ambition of it, i think and it's the central character, lisbeth sal lann der who is... stieg larsson has produced a heroine for our time. >> rose: stieg larsson and his books for the hour, next. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose:

mark thompson, and seema mehta. let me throw this out for everybody.n let me tell you guys, too. you're part of this conversation. all of a sudden he had a change of heart about immigration! unbelievable. let's listen. >> we got to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple for me to fix it. i think you control the border first. create a pathway for people who are here. you don't say you gotta go home. that is an position that i've evolved on. because you know what, it just it's got to be resolved. >> cenk: well, well, amen of a sudden they believe in evolution evolution. >> no matter who won he was going to say that. >> cenk: right. seema is this a political move you've ever seen? >> i was stunned when i saw that statement. but even if it is a political move the republican party has to deal with the changing demographics. if you look at a state like colorado unless they want to be marginalized, if they want to be opposition party that has not in power they have to deal with this issue. >> cenk: i didn't think they would do it this quic

mehta ] honey, touch of brown sugar, crunchy clusters -- any cardboard?uncer ] cardboard no, delicious yes. >>> to my husband, there's no surprise that my work got better when i met you because i never knew what it felt like for someone to have my back to thank you. >> i mean, that's painful to watch for me. i hardly know sandra. i met her once in my life. i think everyone watching it feels for her every time they see it because clearly she doesn't know what's coming. you didn't know what was coming but you knew what you were doing. when you watch that at the golden globes before i saw you at the oscars, what do you think watching that back now? >> it just makes me sad. it's sad that, you know, that not for myself but for her to put her through what i put her through. >> do you hate yourself for doing that? i think i have forgiven myself for what i have done. >> has she forgiven you? >> i think so. she's in a place of forgiveness and, you know, i mean, it sucks to have these kinds of problems that millions of couples have and everyone has but on such a gl

today judge amit mehta justified the harsh sentence due to the severity of rhodes's crimes. >> you sirresent an unfounded threat and power to the country into the fabric of this democracy. and, quote, for decades, mr. rhodes, it is clear you have wanted the democracy of the country to evolve into violence. in fact, even after january 6th, rhodes was still calling on militias to, quote, defend yourselves against an illegitimate biden administration. >> we have to prepare to walk the path of the founding fathers. we still defend the constitution, but they're the ones who are the usurpers in the violators and declare that. and then get strong in your communities. raising local militias in your towns and counties, like the founders did. you need to nullify, refused to comply, and you need to defend yourselves. you have to do it together. don't be isolated and alone. do it together as a community. if you get people in your community tonight, so many americans are running away, it's not gonna do any good. you gotta get together prepared to defend yourselves. >> carrying that sense of defianc

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what has stood out to you about these last arguments and what the district judge in the case, amit mehtasaid? >> he seems skeptical that google is not a monopolist. the government has to do two things, show google has monopoly power and show that they used bad acts or exclusionary conduct to maintain that power. my belief about the merits of this case is that google is definitely a monopolist, and mehta thinks that too. he was skeptical of arguments where you go to expedia to search for a travel opportunity. he said that is not the same thing. he has tipped his hand a little bit in that department. he seemed more even in the way he was talking about the bad acts or the exclusionary behavior, but he did say the big question, which is if defaults don't matter and if competition is just a click away, why are you, google, play -- paying apple $23 million a year to be that default? stephanie: google has light, 90% of the search market as a result. this is considered a test case over whether u.s. antitrust law can address the novel problems presented by new technologies. how hard is it to win

and judge mehta looked at him and reminded him how serious of an offense this is, seditious conspiracy. and then spoke about how he found it so astonishing that american citizens who had been upstanding average americans before january 6th then became criminals. and i want to read for you one of the last things that judge mehta said after this marathon day of sentencing these two defendants in court. he said to kelly meggs, "violence is not the answer. we have a process. it's called an election. you don't take to the streets with rifles. you don't hope that the president invokes the insurrection act so you can start a war in the streets. you don't rush into the u.s. capitol with the hope to stop the electoral vote count. we will slowly but surely descend into chaos if we do." so a reminder that democracy isn't something that does not involve violence as i away to express your opinion. >> katelyn polantz outside the d.c. courthouse. joining us to discuss former capitol police certainly aquilino gonell. rhodes received 18 years in prison. one of his top lieutenants got 12 years. are you

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for this pipeline, there is the mehta environmental issue of whether tar sands oil is the future we wanthe global warming consequences. but also there is the less mehta environmental issue which is all about the land this pipeline runs through. all those ranch lands and those fresh water aquifers and lakes and homes, honestly we do not have great technology to clean up normal oil spills. but tar sands oil spills, we really do not know how to clean those up. that was the problem with the big disastrous kalamazoo oil spill a few years ago. because tar sands oil it turns out is harder to clean up. we're bad at all oil spill cleanup, but we are really bad at tar sands oil cleanup because we don't know how to do it. so what happens if and when something goes wrong? the state department and ultimately the president will have to consider those kinds of questions when they make a decision on whether or not to sign off on construction of the keystone pipeline. the pipeline, of course, has its boosters, republicans tried to make it an issue in the election against the president because he had not

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anuj mehta is a pulmonologist and intensive care physician in denver.convened by colorado's governor, democrat jared polis, to offer science -based recommendations on prioritizing vaccine distribution. incarcerated individuals were included high on the list -- namely because, like in nursing homes or homeless shelters, congregate living in prisons and jails makes controlling covid outbreaks extremely difficult. dr. anuj mehta: we knew that prisoners were far more likely to contract covid. we looked at risk of death, which prisoners are more likely to die of covid if they were to contract it, and then also the ability to socially distance or the ability to employ those core public health measures like mask wearing. and on all three of those levels, regardless of the congregate setting, they were unable to do that. stephanie: but when the recommendations came to light, there was a backlash. an op-ed appeared in "the denver post" criticizing the governor for prioritizing prisoners over the elderly. the writer, then-arapahoe county district attorney, george

times" political reporter seema mehta.we get to the democrats and talk about that, i want to ask you about donald trump. and you wrote about a new pro-trump group pledging to raise $20 million before the gop convention. what more can you tell us about that effort? >> it's largely based in california. as you know, there are tons of deep-pocketed republican donors in california. the question is these are donors who up until now have been hearing from donald trump that he was going to self-fund his campaign. now do they dip into their bank accounts and write the large checks? that's going to be the big test over the next couple weeks. >> now to donald trump and what seems to be a tough week when it comes to that delegate list. the trump campaign making another delegate-related mistake. former california assemblyman, his name there was on the list as a delegate even though he does not endorse donald trump coming shortly after the revelation that the white nationalist had been added to the slate as well. he reported that both n

suketu mehta came to the u.s. from india.is parents put him into an all boys catholic school in queens. in our latest podcast, he told me about the racist insults and he experienced at the hands of the boys at his school who told him to go back to his country. >> i remember my second day in the school, this white kid with red hair and freckles coming up to me and glaring at me and saying lincoln should have never let him off the plantation. i said but what's that got to do with me? >> wow, wow, wow. >> welcome to america. >> that was the opening line? lincoln should have never let them off the plantation. in new york in 1977? >> 1977. >> exactly. >> in queens. >> in queens, home of the current president. >> that's right. queens that gave us archie bunker and donald trump. >> exactly. >> and this boy. and there is a relationship between those three. >> queens, the most diverse county in the united states statistically, also home of the least diverse human being in the country. >> yeah. >> so, but, this is why i feel like i rea

judge ramos twice cited judge mehta's opinion delivered monday and said it helped him deliver a speedyoday. judge ramos noted he was able to issue his decision immediately after the arguments were heard in court today because the case was filed three weeks ago "so the court had the benefit of the time necessary to thoroughly consider the merits of plaintiff's motion, as well i should note the thorough opinion of judge mehta of the d.c. district court. so the next judge hearing the next trump subpoena blocking lawsuit should be able to act with similar speed by read ath previous judge's opinions. the deutsche bank records could be a treasure trove that explain everything about donald trump's relationship to russia and every kind word donald trump has ever said about vladimir putin if the documents show that russian oligarchs close to vladimir putin have been in effect cosigners of trump loans at deutsche bank or otherwise financially supporting donald trump. earlier this week, "the new york times" reported that ha antimony laundering specialists at deutsche bank found multiple suspicion

mehta says the brazuca travels better than previous balls which may account for why there are more goals scored in brazil than any other world cup since 1970. explain what makes this a good soccer ball. >> this is a good soccer ball, for one thing, i haven't heard any complaints from the players. that's a good sign. i believe you can impart more spin to this ball which is the bend it like beckham syndrome. a lot easier to achieve with this ball. >> reporter: the reason, the brazuca has longer deeper seams and a pimple-like surface. a smoother ball is harder to control. the brazuca has six polyurethane panels. those old black and whites have 32. if you think a ball is, well, just a ball, then you'd have to go back four years. this is the ball from the 2010 world cup. goalies hated it because the ball knuckled. the path was unpredictable. adidas apparently took that criticism to heart and this is the result. in 2010, the south africa world cup had 77 goals in the first 36 games. in brazil and with the brazuca, there have been 108. >> i would say the ball definitely has something to do with

mehta ] honey, touch of brown sugar, crunchy clusters -- any cardboard? cardboard no, delicious yes. so where's the fiber? maybe it's in the honey clusters. [ male announcer ] fiber one. cardboard no, delicious yes. chris: welcome back. joe, tell me something i don't know. >> the israelis met with the new egyptian government for the first time two weeks ago and the egyptians read them the riot act. they said mubarak gave you a free ride. we can't afford to do that with our population. we don't even want to talk about a peace process. we want you to get a peace settlement now and we're going to go public. chris: will they recognize the palestinian state this fall? >> i imagine they would. chris: norah? >> the 2012 presidential campaign is heating up. there's a lot of buzz about tim polenty, staff moves he's making. this week he'll announce key moves and we've got a republican debate coming up in may that should be fascinating to watch. huckabee is not in. >> tomorrow's tax day. do you know how many americans admit to cheating on their taxes? 15%. they admi

mehta began offering artificial limbs and other services to physically disabled people nearly 40 yearsabout 150 patients arrive each day from across india desperate people like zareena, a widow who said she is reduced to panhandling to support her two children. >> bombay? >> bombay? she has come from bombay, a long, long way. what do you need? a cycle. she wants a hand pedaled tricycle. >> ( translated ): you are the answer to my prayer. >> reporter: she's one of at least 5.5 million people in india with so called loco motor disabilities-caused in her case by childhood polio. others suffer congenital conditions. but by the most frequent patients are amputees, trauma victims, mainly from road accidents. the jaipur foot organization was started with the help of government grants and is now funded mostly by foundations and individual donations. its cost structure-for a lower limb, say, are miniscule by western standards. >> now it's $50. >> reporter: here's a comparison. in the united states a prosthesis like this would typically range from $8 to $12,000. it would be made of metal aluminu

and it was mehta physical. >> was it so-- was it -- why did it take over as so divining of psychiatry? >> freud is an interesting character. he is obviously the most famous and important psychiatrist in human history. and you know he wasn't actually a psychiatrist. he was trained as a neurologist. >> rose: yes. >> and at the time neurologists saw many of the patients that psychiatrists you know would normally see people with behavioral disturbances. but there was no scientific basis for this. and what he did was he invented an understanding a conception of the human mind which explained how people became who they were as a person and what motivated their behavior. and at the seem that was revolutionary because the thinking then was and remember this is like the late 19th century was that everybody knew exactly what was in their mind and what caused them to do what they did. we had no idea of the unconscious. we have no idea of the idea the notion of defense mechanisms. we had no idea that there were different components of the mind. and he just by sheer genius invented it. but he made

our guest is world renown conductor zubin mehta. people who are unfamiliar with the music world, explain your role. >> well, a lot is communication. i have the good fortunate at this point in my life, to make music as with soloists that i know for years and yea o

molly hooper and seema mehta. ladies, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> the governor of louisiana calling if more help as the flood stricken state enters its recovery stage. he described donald trump's visit as helpful clarifying reports he dismissed the trip as a photo-op. president obama heads to louisiana on tuesday but he was criticized over not cutting his vacation short to make a visit earlier. >> the president and valerie jarrett asked me when would be a good time for a visit, i asked them to let us get out of the response mode where we were still conducting searches of houses, still making rescues, i didn't want to divert resources and assets to providing security for the president while they were needed in this region to undertake those response activities and i asked if he could wait until the response was over. >> charles hadlock is in baton rouge, louisiana, where the president is stopping by next week. charles, with a good day to you. let's talk about the situation where you are right now. what's i

judge mehta actually apply the legal standard, dismissed don jr., dismissed moe brooks. for collective action, donald trump's speech on january six, which he played just before, he used we more than the queen of england. it was really a cult collective more than these other folks, and that's what this lawsuit is all about, a conspiracy under section 1985, which is called the ku klux klan act. >> final question for you is about a former federal judge, a mentor of judge blue dig who is, we know, we know that mike pence conferred with him for advice. he had retired, he had been a appeals courts, i rock ribbed conservative, not squeamish at all, a federal society guy. he's one of the people who told mike pence, no, absolutely not, under no circumstances can you unilaterally overturn a election. he came up with an op-ed on this, he interviewed a politico, what do you think about what we have learned about ludwig's consultation with mike pence, and about how fortunate we were that that was consultation he had? >> 100 percent, this is a really remarkable story, i'm really happy