larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: i would say a that is a flawed question asked of mr. john. -- trump. , the declaration of independence does say governments exist with the consent of the governed and are supposed to protect life, liberty and property. think you are smart enough to be your own government. [applause] larry: this next question is to mr. peterson. should illegal immigration be stopped? what does open borders mean? mr. peterson: i believe a free market and labor is just as effective lifting people out of as aty is just as helpful free commodity. borders are drawn on a map by politicians. the nationstate things it only serves the needs of the individuals. i believe we as libertarians can offer to the american people a solution we have had in our history shows during the alicessive era, we had an island -- ellis island policy. you are out of time. dr. feldman. mr. feldman: america is the land of opportunity. i will streamline this immigration system and we will have liberty for americans and be welcom

mr. perry: i am going a lot of places. [laughter] >> and comments on governor walker's plan on repealing obamacare? do you think the strategy makes sense? mr. perry: i have not looked at it. you'll hear a lot of people say the right things. repeal and replace obamacare. we have been seeing that for a long time. obviously, i believe the states are where the decisions need to be made, not in washington, dc the entire idea that washington can come up with a way to deliver health care that is effective and efficient for new york versus new mexico versus washington, this is not common sense. let the people in the country decide. in the state of texas, we don't consider it to be effective, and we do not judge success by how many people can be forced into insurance. what we think in texas is the more people that have access to the best holiday health care you can't, that is why we had the most sweeping reform in the nation. our people in the state of texas -- if you want to live in a place that has re

larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: they are both equally evil and to ask which one is the lesser evil is like asking my favorite std. i do not have one. [applause] mr. peterson? mr. peterson when does life begin? when should it be a crime for a woman to have an abortion? mr. peterson: i am not a doctor or a scientist, it most likely because at conception, so all humans deserve the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and it includes the unborn. [applause] dr. peterson -- mr. me, dr.? -- excuse feldman? i have my own very firm religious convictions, i do not mix dairy products and meat products, but i do not think that a cheeseburger should be illegal. we have a pro-life community and they should be able to enforce their rules on their community. we have a pro-choice community and they should be able to enforce their views on their community. and if they want to spread their message, they should invite other people by example to show what a wonderful community they have. it is not the job of governm

[applause] mr. perryt, my friends, we are a resilient country. you think about who we are. we have been through a civil war. we have been through two world wars. we have been through a great depression and made it through jimmy carter. we will make it through the obama years. we will do this. [applause] the fundamental nature of our country never say knock down, we get back up. we dust ourselves off and we move forward. and you know what? we will do it again. [applause] mr. perry: i want to share some important truths, starting with this truth, we don't have to settle for a world in chaos and america that shrinks from its responsibility. we don't have to apologize for american exceptionalism or western values. we don't have to accept slow growth that leaves behind the middle class and leaves millions of americans out of work. we don't have to settle for crumbling bureaucracies that harm our taxpayers and veterans. we don't have to re-sign ourselves to debt, decay and slow growth. we have the power to make

mr. perry: mr. president, it is an honor to be here in this university, and to all of you, good morning. i found that on my numerous visits back to new hampshire over the course of the years that you all appreciate plain talk about as well as any place in this country. and you want to hear some very plain talk about the challenges that we have in this country. and that is the spirit of which i come today, to share with you this vision of mine, and on three points i want to be very very clear. first, our country has entered -- and i think a time of testing, a time -- our political leadership is feeling that test. -- is failing that test. the american people see a president who is in denial about the threats we face, making grave miscalculations that make the world less safe. isis filled the void of failed policy in iraq and syria. in american tanks, with american weapons, isis began taking cities that just a few years ago had been freed by the blood of american soldiers. in these highly orchestrated

mr. perry's life. >> reporter: and yet they continued to sell. >> and yet they continued to sell it. >> reporter: perry's personal assistant pleading guilty to one count of conspiracy. admitting to authorities he repeatedly injected perry with ketamine, even injecting that fatal dose. documents showing the assistant injected perry "with at least three shots of ketamine" the day perry died, starting at 8:30 am. before administering the last dose, the documents say perry asked his assistant to "shoot me up with a big one." the assistant later found perry face down in the hot tub. two others, including another doctor, pleading guilty to charges related to distributing the drug. ketamine is a common anesthetic, which is legally used for treatment-resistant depression. but it's also abused as a recreational drug with euphoric and psychedelic effects. perry writing in his memoir, "ketamine felt like a giant exhale." a year before his death, the actor speaking to our diane sawyer about his decades-long battle with addiction. >> addiction, the big terrible thing, is far too powerful for anyone to defeat

mr. perry: i heard this question before. mr. heath: i thought you might have. mr. perry: i think it is -- when you look at the federal government, obviously when we talk about the size of it and the concept of being able to shrink the size of state government. if anybody gets on the stage whether any of these candidates here or anybody on the left that says there is any way to go forward in this country without cutting and without growing, those are the two things that we must do in this country. we have to cut spending. i know a little bit about cutting spending. we had a $10 billion shortfall in 2003. we went in and made the cuts. we told people we would do that. we realize that's how you have to live your life. the government has to learn to do it as well. the states that have been successful, governors have done that and made successful cuts. we cut the $10 billion out and cut the regulatory laws down. we had sweeping tort reform. we had health care explode across texas. two years later, we came back into session, we only meet every other year for 140 days, we h

. >> mr. perry asked for a pardon to, i'm sorry. >> mr. perry? did he talk to directly? >> he did. >> congressman scott perry, responsible for the oversight of the federal government. >> i think there is a different sheriff in town. i think you will see a lot of subpoenas. >> tonight, congressman adam schiff on the chaos of the maga congress. then, the latest on the election denier accused of orchestrating a campaign of violence against democrats. the dea prosecutor in the case, joining me live. plus, involuntary manslaughter charges for alec baldwin. why the prosecutor thinks, she can prove criminal negligence. and, why there is no reason to skeptical when george santos says, i am not a drag queen, and did not let a dog die. all in, starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. the new republican congress led by speaker mccarthy is vowing to give the white house some serious headaches. so far, the biden team in an unexpected way with barely restrained glee. political reports, in the wake of the news, house republicans are installing some of their mos

mr. perry: i agree with you. but -- ambassador nuland: however -- mr. perry: they have legitimate grievances, does russians have legitimate grievances? ambassador nuland: russian speaking ukrainians have long wanted some of the things that russia championed for them language, rights decentralization. but all of those things were on offer first from the transitional government of yatsenyuk onward and now with poroshenko. mr. perry: history sometimes gets lost on us as we go through our days. i just want to make sure that administration is familiar and aware of the history of stalin and khrushchev in the 1920's and the terror famine and starvation of the ukrainian people and deportations and the re-establishment of russians into the ukraine and so when putin says that he's going to protect these russian-speaking citizens, with all due respect they were moved into ukraine by killing the ukrainians and it's important to know that history when we talk about legitimate grievances. so i'm concerned -- i, too, agree we should send defensive weapons to ukraine. i

mr. perry: the chair now recognizes the gentleman from mississippi, mr. thompson. mr. thompson: thank you very much, mr. chairman. almost to the member before me the conversation has been about the culture, the organization. and i think it speaks to whether or not internally we can fix it or do we just cover it up? and i'll get to a specific shortly. inspector roth, in your review of the secret service, how would you describe the culture within the service, especially at the executive level? mr. roth: as we noted in the report on the access to chairman chaffetz's employment record, we found a number of supervisors who, in fact, themselves had access to m.c.i. to me that was a very troubling incident. additionally, few people then elevated their concerns or the fact that this was being used to a high enough level of management for something to be done. so that was sort of certainly troubling behavior that we identified. mr. thompson: let me -- so we had senior level people accessing information.

mr. perry: at times. walter: you always have something interesting to say. you are critical of two things. one, the expulsion policy which is if you are in one of these types of schools, you have an incentive to expel the back kids so that your scores go up and you don't the deal with it. and then there was the other criticism. mr. perry: special needs. the way i explain it is that the development of what we have in new orleans occurs generally in three stages. the immediate aftermath. we were literally pulling schools together, cleaning them up, finding teachers. then you have a second phase and this is where a heap of criticism is deserved. it was at the point when we got and the focus was clearly on deconstructing the former system. process people were expelled. we can talk to the youth empowerment project, families and friends for incarcerated children, and the data bears it out. right around 2007 the expulsion rate was around the same as it what it was pre-katrina. then there was this thir

mr. perry: without objection, so ordered. mr. duncan: there is a school, elementary school or middle school, near the naval big, is that correct? governor haley: yes. i talked to someone yesterday and said good luck tomorrow. he said everybody in my area is terrified what could happen. mr. duncan: we're talking about south carolinian mothers and fathers considering sending their children to a school in close proximity to some of the most wanted and dangerous terrorists in the world so thanks for pointing that out. the letter that you and governor brownback sent to ash carter, did y'all get a response on that? governor haley: i'm not aware that we got a response. i will follow up and just confirm that but i am not aware of a response. they've been very -- they handled this very much on their own and have not included us in the process. i have had conversations of governor brownback and i have made it very clear and i want it to be made very clear, any governor that has to deal with this, i will fight for them to make sure it doesn

mr. perry. vania, mr. perry: many of the people we meet in our home districts, they said this is what's wrong with washington and this is the misspending of our money. and they say why don't you do this. it is complicated, house of representatives, a senate and don't always agree and have to get the president to sign something, but on this occasion, something can be done. april, 2011, the palestinian authority published a resolution granting all prisoners imprisoned in israel for security and terrorism-related offenses a monthly job. imagine if your job was to blow up people, tear their limbs off and send hot metal through their bodies and see their bloody corpses through the streets. you get a salary for that. we put people in prison for that. we put people toll death for that. american taxpayers are paying people overseas to do that. words mean something. eligible beneficiaries, as anyone in israel's prison as a result of his participation in the struggle against the occupation, as has alread

the clerk: amendment offered by mr. perry -- mr. perry: i request unanimous consent to dispense with the reading. the chair: without objection. mr. perry: it's my understanding that the chairman accepts the amendment. if that's the case i would yield the balance of the time to the chairman. the chair: the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. wolf: strike -- we accept the amendment. yield back the balance of the time. the chair: the gentleman from pennsylvania yield back the. mr. perry: yield back. the chair: the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from pennsylvania. so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have t the amendment is agreed to. -- the ayes have it. the amendment is agreed to. for what purpose does the gentleman from wisconsin rise? >> i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will report the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. duffy of wisconsin tend of the bill before the short title insert the following. section, none of the

. >> now, mr. perry, the sae spokesman a few weeks ago when we learned about the chant, he said this. listen. >> we have every reason to believe that when they're talking about being taught the songs, it was done by somebody who was an older member of the chapter and just a two or three year period there, passed it down and said here's the chant we want to teach you. >> but the school now says it was taught at a leadership conference. suggesting it was widely known there. does the national chapter need to explain further? >> i think they do have to explain further. i think that it's going to take a thorough investigation. not something they can just rush and say that it's been reviewed. but i think it's due to the university. i think they should have that done. i understand that they really need that in order to start the healing process. so they should do a thorough investigation. >> you know because, jason, in recent weeks we've learned more about the history of this chant. a former student at angelo s

we listened to mr perry. he says it's a shame, but it could be more than a shame, could set up a conflict between the community and law enforcement. i wonder if there's a view that the high incarceration in the area could be viewed as more crime? >> some police officers say that is what it is. i mean, the area does have a lot of crime. if you look at the numbers, if you look at all the people stopped and frisked, how many of them are custody, how many end up having charges. in reality, it's a rather meade ochre percentage. people are stopped in the city all the time, padded down, frisked and released. >> i hear from what you describe about the decision that effect it says to law enforcement that suspicion could be "he looked at me funny." >> as we saw in the case of freddie gray, and he took off running. that gave them enough suspicion. in mr perry's case i asked what was the suspicion. he said that he was whispering to a friend in a convenience store a block away and police officers were curious as to what h

well, mr. perrys own definition of what's dumb, and you can find it at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> what's dumb is to oversee an economy that has lost that many millions of jobs, to put unemployment numbers over his four years that will stay probably at 9%, to downgrade the credit of this good country, to put fiscal policies in place that were a disaster back in the '0s and try them again in the 2,000s, that's what i consider to be the definition of dumb. >> one person who is anything but the definition of dumb when it comes to mr. perry's candidacy is a lifelong texan. he joins us now. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> in your article this month, "dear yankee, eight things you ought to know before you start writing stories about rick perry," you describe mr. perry as a politician who is a lot cannier and luckier than you might think, someone not to be taken lightly. are you surprised then that he so suddenly made it into front-runner status? >> no, i'm really not for a couple of reasons. on

mr. perry? did he talk to directly? >> yes, he did. >> mr. perry asked for a pardon to. mr. you talk to him directly? >> yes he did. >> dave jolly, so, that's who's out there during the performance on the floor of the house. i want to ask you about republican words. so here we have and we look at today of new york city with rupert murdoch tongue up to grow up. okay? the fox empire's mostly telling them to grow up. sean hannity is trying to tell them to grow up. and it was on there tonight, arguing it sean hannity, right? listen to what boebert, -- set on the floor of the house about what how much influence donald trump no longer has: >> let stop with the campaign smears and tactics to get people to turn against us. even having my favorite president call us and tell us we need to knock this off. i think that you need to be reversed. the president need to tell kevin mccarthy that, sir, you do not have the votes and it's time to withdraw. >> okay, david, i gotta -- don't copy among those that's not coming, that warning boebert would stand up and say, please tell donald trump to

mr. heath: thank you, governor perry. mr. perry: thank you. >> rick santorum represented pennsylvania from 1991 until 1995 in the house. mr. heath: should the federal government subsidized any sector and which ones? mr. santorum: we have to make sure our sectors are competitive. one of the things i announced, if we are going to restore the center of america, we have to get american spectrum realty that we have to get americans back to work. wage growth has released stagnated. 74% of americans do not have a college degree and do not have manufacturing jobs. 20 million manufacturing jobs when reagan was president. we now have 11 million. if we do not allow our country to be competitive with the rest of the world, we will continue to see that the client and there is no struggling list. that is why i put our campaign square on, will make effectuating competitive. he will put out a flat tax that will have a time that transitions for manufacturing. we will incentivize that money to calm into country. we will have repatriation. inste

mcafee, mr. perry, governor johnson, mr. petersen, dr. feldman, and i went to thank all of you who watched on c-span. thank you for covering this. [applause] >> thank you, libertarians. now sit down. stand up if you want. can everyone give these candidates another round of applause? [applause] i've been to everyone of these nominating conventions since 2000 and orlando. i have voted for the presidential nomination every time. there's always been a choice. there are always choices we have to make. believe that you see a, you, the delegates of the libertarian party, have the best and .oughest choices i've ever seen [applause] at the beginning of this thing we passed of those donation cards, and i hope you been filling them out while listening to the awesome answers in this debate great if you haven't, you can start filling them out now. and i'm going to auction off a piece of history. on this stage to my right is an area sign, and on that sign the signatures of every one of the candidates on this stage. there's only one of these in the .orl

since mr. perryid decide to stay in the race after new hampshire, he has lost one key south carolina donor and supporter. he objects to mr. perry taking on mitt romney for being a vulture capitalist and to add injury to insult. that donor is not just leaving rick perry's team. he plans to endorse plom. joining me now is felicia felicia seungmess. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> rick perry, as i tried to explain is already not polling terribly well in south carolina. he's really borderline for making it into the cnn debate. how important is the loss of this south carolina donor for mr. perry at this point? >> it's a pretty significant loss, rachel. it could be a significant turning point for the campaign. he's pretty much having the air waves open to himself. in that span of time, $2 million has been spent on his behalf. he's seen polling numbers go down back to 5% now since november. so there's not much further down you can go. yet today we saw this supporter as we

mr. perry by the way served in the air force. the president took the opportunity to lecture governor perry yesterday. >> mr. perry just got in the presidential race. i think that everybody who runs for president it probably takes them a little bit of time before they start realizing that this isn't like running for governor or running for senator or running for congress. got to be a little more careful about what you say. but i will cut him some slack. he has only been at it for a few days now. >> laura: here is how governor perry respond today. dollars. >> yesterday, the president said i needed to watch what i say. i just want to respond back, if i may, mr. president, actions speak louder than words. my actions as governor are helping to create jobs in this country. the president's actions are killing jobs in this country. it's time to get america working again. >> laura: joining us now from stanford, connecticut with analysis the purveyor of dick morris.com. mr. morris. dick, i'm watching this whole thing unfold. i saw that litt

mrs. perry talking about the rigors of campaigning and what she feels is driving the criticism of her husband. >> this has been a rough month. i don't need to tell you we've been brutalized and beaten up and chewed up in the press. we've been brutalized by our opponents and our party so much of that i think they look at him because of his faith. he's the only true conservative. i truly feel like we are here for that purpose. >> mrs. perry saying god called governor perry to this race saying the husband was happy being governor but she encouraged him to run because she felt washington was lacking leadership. one of perry's rivals former godfather ceo continues his surge in the polls his signature economic plan is drawing increased scrutiny. the 999 proposal would reform the current tax code cutting it down to a 9% personal income tax, 9% corporate tax and 9% national sales tax. the plan is getting mixed reviews with "the washington post" offering this critique -- herman cain will sit down with da

perry? we are going to hear from mr. o'reilly moments away. >> laura: in the impact segment tonight, according to the latest rasmussen poll on the contest texas governor rick perry leads the pack. mr. perry has 29% support. mitt romney drops down to 18%. 15% remain undecided and michele bachmann comes in with 13%. since announcing over the weekend, mr. perry has had some tough words for washington starting with fed chairman ben bernanke. >> is this guy prints more money between now and the election, i don't know what you all would do to him in iowa. but we would treat him pretty ugly. printing more money to play politics at this particular time in american history is almost treason oust in my opinion. >> mr. perry raised some eyebrows with these comments about the president. >> laura: bill o'reilly talked to don imus this morning about the governor. >> speaking of rick perry, is he for real? >> bill: yeah, oh yeah. absolutely viable contender. nice economic story to tell in texas. and you know, you know he is for real whe

mr. perry is more conservative than mr. romney and he often uses spirit in his presentations. mr. omney is running as america's ceo. a man who has succeeded in private business and who knows how to handle the free marketplace. governor perry is pretty much running on that as well showcasing texas economic success story. the truth is that both romney and perry have many things in common. including good hair both them would offer a challenge to barack obama. at this point it's gobble to say which man has the most going for him even though governor perry leads in the polls he is untested in debate and americans don't know him very much. governor romney has big name recognition but many are suspicious of him not popular in republican primaries. the perry romney battle is a toss-up and could go either way depending on how the candidates perform in the upcoming debates. as they like to say in texas. there will be a high noon between these two men. a verbal shootout that will leave just one standing. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. let's bring in the aforementioned car

mr. perry's assessment as it relates to foreign affairs. we have seen major high dollar targets if you will succumb to the work of our national security community and the united states military and president barack obama. do we have the confidence that governor perry would ascend to the leadership if you do not present yourself in a serious manner and apt to make jokes and if you don't get a profound station and i'm not suggesting you stand before the world on a podium, but if you don't reject the inhead rock that we can understand that you reject it and were appalled and distance yourself from it or you give a profound statement about the lack of credibility of a confederate issued license plate regardless of the history preservation, that can be done in museums and private homes, if you don't distance yourself in the commander confederate organization that said people need to move on. then you are creating an atmosphere when you move into the general election if you are elected by the primary voters that you are not a serious candidate re

yes, mr. perryery thought of having to walk on stage amongst friends and talk about his policies. seriously. and so, his campaign team has let it be known that mr. perry is not going to appear in every debate from now on. he just can't take it anymore. but before you jump in and berate him for being a scaredy-cat, a weak heart, and a wuss, just ask yourself how you'd feel if you'd performed like this. >> against the second amendment, before he was for -- galileo got outvoted for a spell. was it before he was before? if you're saying i can be bought for $5,000, i'm offended. before he was against versus -- roe versus wade. >> the last time i saw anyone as punch-drunk as perry on stage was in may, 1987, when pinklin thomas challenged mike tyson for the heavyweight champion of the world and landed flat on his back. i think we all understand why rick perry is now running scared. thank you very much for watching. dylan is back, he's here, and he's ready to take us forward. dylan, it's yours. >> i was jus

obviously, mr. perry promoting christian values in a very secular time and that's causing some angst. but is it smart politically? joining us now from atlanta, ralph reed, chairman of the faith coalition and author of the now ballots and blood. here in the studio, kathy rue, contributing editor for "the washington post" magazine. was that a smart political move? >> for the short term, yes. evangelicals and born agains are the ones that come out to the primaries and 50% of the voters. so for the short term, yes, pandering to this group is the way to go. >> bill: pandering is a loaded word! loaded word is pandering. if he believes, it it's not pandering. >> doesn't believe it. we don't know if he believes it. >> bill: his history is he's a very spiritual guy and always does this kind of spin, you know that, come on. >> his history is he's a politician. maybe this is what it's taken. >> bill: do you believe using the word pandering was fair? >> i do. i do. i do. >> bill: ok. you say it's smart because in the